Re: Windows 11

[Jim McLaughlin]

There is, as yet, no Windows 11.  If your question was meant to refer to
Windows 10, which does exist, AOO is reportedin many posts on this list,
be compatabl with Windows 10.   I have not, yet, personally used AOO 4.1.2
with Win 10.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Richard Beeston 
wrote:

> Dear all
>
> Does anyone know if Open Office is compatible with Windows 11.
>
> Thanks

Re: Windows 11

[Jim McLaughlin]

Hi Richard --

If you find Windows 11 in a  store, I hope you'll let Satya Nadella know
right away.

See,
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/microsoft-confirms-there-will-be-no-windows-11-1293309

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Richard Beeston 
wrote:

> Hi Jim
>
> Sorry to inform you but Windows 11 was launched the day before yesterday
> and is in stores now.
>
> Regards Richard
>
> -Original Message- From: Jim McLaughlin
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 7:55 AM
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org ; ar2l...@bigpond.com
> Subject: Re: Windows 11
>
>
> There is, as yet, no Windows 11.  If your question was meant to refer to
> Windows 10, which does exist, AOO is reportedin many posts on this list,
> be compatabl with Windows 10.   I have not, yet, personally used AOO 4.1.2
> with Win 10.
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Richard Beeston 
> wrote:
>
> Dear all
>>
>> Does anyone know if Open Office is compatible with Windows 11.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: Windows 11

[Jim McLaughlin]

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Richard Beeston 
wrote:

> Well what is this then
>
>
> Image result for windows 11
>
>
> Windows 11 Release Date, Feature Concepts, Update And ...
>
>
>
> windows11update.com/



What it is is a non Microsoft site with a bunch of third party speculation.

Its sort of parallel to comic book or movie fan boy site predicting the
content of the next Star Wars episode.  Fun reading but pure fiction.

Microsoft is literally, today, giving away Windows 10 for free as a
download.  No way is Microsoft going to be trying to sell a Windows 11
product in competition with a free giveaway of Win 10.

>
>
> Get all Windows 11 news, and update. Also find Windows 11 release date,
> features concepts, news and video of operating system.
>


Perhaps you could identify the names and locations of ghe stores which you
claim were selling Windows "...the day before yesterday..."?
 -

Re: Windows 11

[Jim McLaughlin]

Brian --

ROTFL.  Excellent.

It appears to me that our friend Richard is either a troll or a loon, and
perhaps both.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 2:21 AM, Brian Barker 
wrote:

> At 21:03 16/01/2016 +1100, Richard Beeston wrote:
>
>>


> 4 branches of House of windows and internet
>>
>
> Why lag behind with Windows 11 when you can have Windows 12:
> http://tinyurl.com/zgo44e5 ?
>
> ;^)
>
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Re: Compatibility

[Jim McLaughlin]

Not an Apple guy, so I can't tell you if AOO 4.1.2 is compatible with your
op sys.

If you download ONLY from www.openoffice.org  and no where else you will be
"safe" in the sense that you will not get any "add ons"or assorted malware.

That site should list compatiIble Apple OS versions, if the set up
parallels the Windows part of the openoffice.org site.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:21 AM, Elizabeth L'Estrange West <
lestrangewest.elizab...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Good Morning
>
> Is AOO 4.1.2 compatible with my Mac OS X el Capitan 10.11.2 please.  Is it
> safe to download?
>
> Regards
>
> Elizabeth

Re: Help please!

[Jim McLaughlin]

 Dan -

Katherine had a question about apparently disappearing files when she tried
to load a history manager onto her OO installation.

Jan, who's first language is not English, graciously tried to help by
recommending a program called "recuva" to recover the missing files.  The
phrase "dwn @piriform.com" which Jan used is not an e mail address per se.
It is a contraction of the phrase "download at piriform.com".  Its a  set
of directions to a  web site, not an E mail address.

Similarly, Jan's use of the word "taste" is a stand in for "try".  Remember
Jan is a non native English speaker, who is doing his best to try to help
out Katherine with a  question Katherine asked.

I appreciate an's attempts to help Katherine and admire Jan's plunging into
the vaguries of American English to do so.  Jan's efforts in a second
language, American English, are a  heck of a  lot  better than mu feeble
attempts at French, which passes for my second language.

Please cut Jan some slackl



On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Dan Lewis  wrote:

> On 01/23/2016 05:54 PM, Jan wrote:
>
>> If you delete this files,taste pgm "recuva"  (dwn @piriform.com) To max
>> success operation  minimize work  on the PC .
>>
> Sorry, but the above comment makes absolutely no sense. What files should
> be deleted and why? What does an email address have to do with the problem?
>
> Dan
>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Katherine Pappas" <
>> nicpappa...@gmail.com>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:39 PM
>> Subject: Help please!
>>
>>
>> I lost all of my documents/ spreadsheets. I was trying to install a
>>> history manager file so I could see more than just 10 of my most recent
>>> works and in doing so it somehow erased everything.
>>>
>>> How do I get them back??
>>>
>>> Also, it never fixed the problem with me being able to only see 10 docs.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Katie
>>>
>>>
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Re: how do I convert a template to a style?

[Jim McLaughlin]

Now I am confused.

What is a "registered Template" as opposed to a "non registered template"

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Regina Henschel 
wrote:

> Hi Julian,
>
> Julian Thomas schrieb:
>
>> I create a new document, and then want to apply the formatting specified
>> in one of my templates.
>>
>> If I select Format - Styles and formatting, I'd like to apply the
>> settings in the template, but they don't show up in that window [it's just
>> a bunch of canned default page styles].  Load Style isn't very intuitive.
>> Is there an easy trick?
>>
>>
> (1)
> Open you new document an write some dummy text.
> If your template is not registered, open the template too.
> Goto File > Templates > Organize.
> Select your Template in the left field. First choose the type "Templates"
> for registered templates or "Documents", if you template is not registered.
> Select your document in the right field.
> These are actually tree views. Double click to open the branches, till you
> see the list of styles.
> Drag the desired style from the left to the right *while pressing the
> Ctrl-key*. The icon must get a +, otherwise you move the style !
>
> (2)
> Use "Load Styles" from the Style&Formatting dialog.
> Mark the kind of styles you want to import.
> Click button "From file" and select your template.
>
> (3)
> Generate the new document from the template.
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
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Re: please

[Jim McLaughlin]

Gee Craig, you were so sympathetic and persuasive in your request for help
that on
both the hotmail and comcast addresses you use I immediately filtered you
out.

You can rant and rage until the end of time and I won't
pay a bit of attention or even "hear" or see a word you say or type.

Have a lousy evening.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Craig Craft  wrote:

> Listen up "Groucho"- I have no less than two (2) copies of two different
> emails that I have properly sent through the requested email address
> channels that you have stated are provided for unsubscribing. Not only
> that, but, when I first politely asked you to please unsubscribe me after
> that, you came back to me with quite a hostile temper demanding that I
> follow the instructions, which I have already done. So, what I'm going to
> do, since you are in charge of the show and refuse to manually unsubscribe
> me is block every single address that comes to me from your webites AND
> subscribers. It seems to me that you tech wizards have so many problems
> with your designs while boasting to the world that you've got it all
> figured out, and yet, you can't even get one simple unsubscribe to work. I
> have seen this issue in passing with other users too, so, stop telling me
> to unsubscribe when it is not working correctly and do it your danmed self!
> PLEASE, have a day.
>
> Sent from Windows Mail
>
> From: dave
> Sent: ?Sunday?, ?January? ?24?, ?2016 ?12?:?22
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
>
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Re: how do I convert a template to a style?

[Jim McLaughlin]

Thank you.  I understand now.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:04 AM, Regina Henschel 
wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
> Jim McLaughlin schrieb:
>
>> Now I am confused.
>>
>> What is a "registered Template" as opposed to a "non registered template"
>>
>>
> For example, if you want your text document to become a template, then you
> can do
>
> (A) File > Templates > Save. There you choose a category and enter a name
> for the template. OK. That is part of the template manager.
>
> or you do
>
> (B) File > Sava as. There you set the file type to "ODF Text Document
> Template (.ott)(*.ott)".
>
> In case (A) the new template is visible in File > New > Templates and
> Documents. And when you select the template in that dialog and use "open",
> then you get a document, that is not only based on that template, but the
> new document contains the information from which template it is generated
> in its document properties. With such templates you can generate a
> hierarchy of templates, templates based on other templates. When a template
> is changed afterwards, the document notices this.
> That is, what I call a "registered" template. I do not know an official
> term for that.
> The shortcoming is, that you cannot choose freely the place where the
> template is stored, but you have to stick to the path, which you have set
> in Tool > Options.
>
> In case (B) you can choose an arbitrary place to store the template. When
> you later on double-click the template a new file is generated based on
> this template. But the new file does not store the information about its
> parent template. Therefore the document cannot inform you, in case the
> template is changed.
>
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
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Re: new wireless touch pad driving me bonkers

[Jim McLaughlin]

Dave Mainwaring -

I had the same issue with a Dell Pavillion 17 laptop, product number
K4Q96UA#ABA running 64 bit Win10 Home on a  non touch screen.

Synaptic SMBus touch pad.

Couple weeks ago I gave up on the touch pad and plugged in an old logitech
wireless mouse.  Its not a  Win 10 compliant mouse, and the center scroll
wheel does not function, but I can live with that for a  few days .  I get
really good cursor control with the logitech and the left and right push
buttons work fine.  No inadvertant "click throughs" when I park the cursor
on a  link.


I have also found that Fry's sells a $14.99 HP wireless mouse, a model
something or other 3000, that claims to be fully functional in Win 10.  I
bought one today, but haven' cut through the clamshell packaging and
installed it, yet.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 1:21 PM, DaveMainwaring 
wrote:

> I have new wireless keyboard with touch pad.
> when my laptop pointer is over a link it automatically clicks on the
> link or icon and activates it
>
> Any suggestion on how to turn this action off
>
>
> Dave
>
> Knowledge workers are workers whose main capital is knowledge.
> Knowledge workers "think for a living"
>
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Re: new wireless touch pad driving me bonkers

[Jim McLaughlin]

Dave Mainwaring -

Follow up on my prior post re using mouse instead of touchpad with Win 10.

HP mouse is a "X3000".

I did finally connect it this afternoon.  Functions perfectly.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Jim McLaughlin 
wrote:

> Dave Mainwaring -
>
> I had the same issue with a Dell Pavillion 17 laptop, product number
> K4Q96UA#ABA running 64 bit Win10 Home on a  non touch screen.
>
> Synaptic SMBus touch pad.
>
> Couple weeks ago I gave up on the touch pad and plugged in an old logitech
> wireless mouse.  Its not a  Win 10 compliant mouse, and the center scroll
> wheel does not function, but I can live with that for a  few days .  I get
> really good cursor control with the logitech and the left and right push
> buttons work fine.  No inadvertant "click throughs" when I park the cursor
> on a  link.
>
>
> I have also found that Fry's sells a $14.99 HP wireless mouse, a model
> something or other 3000, that claims to be fully functional in Win 10.  I
> bought one today, but haven' cut through the clamshell packaging and
> installed it, yet.
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 1:21 PM, DaveMainwaring 
> wrote:
>
>> I have new wireless keyboard with touch pad.
>> when my laptop pointer is over a link it automatically clicks on the
>> link or icon and activates it
>>
>> Any suggestion on how to turn this action off
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> Knowledge workers are workers whose main capital is knowledge.
>> Knowledge workers "think for a living"
>>
>> Follow : http://mainzoneknowledgenetwork.blogspot.com/
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Re: Windows 10 and Apache open office

[Jim McLaughlin]

Lucy Blake -

I upgraded my laptop from Win 8.1  to Win 10 about three months ago, just
after New Years.

I had no issues.

The upgrade went fine.

There is a  learning curve from Win 8 to Win 10.

I did back up all my files  (not programs, but files) to an external hard
drive as a precaution, but had no file issues.

I recommend that if you do upgrade that you back up all your files to an
external hard drive before proceeding just in case something goes wrong.
Better safe than sorry.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:46 AM, Lucy Blake  wrote:

> Hi
> I wonder if you can tell me if I upgrade my laptop computer to Windows 10,
> will I still be able to use the Apache open office package that is
> currently on my laptop?
> Thanks for any help you can offer
> Regards
> LU.
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Re: A question

[Jim McLaughlin]

Please be sure that when you do download Open Office you download it *ONLY*
from:

http://www.openoffice.org/

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 12:40 PM,  wrote:

>
> On Sat, 21 May 2016 19:57:16 +0100 Rory O'Farrell 
> writes:
>
> > No, you have to download it all, a file of about 140MB.  You can
> > then do a custom install to install only Writer, but the memory
> > saved is not much, as OO is so integrated and you may lose
> > functionality in some areas.
>
> Muchas gracias.  I've got a full day here - I've already d/led a ton of
> stuff, and I'm just beginning to rebuild what I had on my previous
> computer - so I doubt I'll get to it today.  But I intend to!:)
>
> 
> The New York Times
> The Electoral Map Looks Challenging For Trump
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5740ba9744713a9643b7st04duc
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Re: Referencing a cell from previous worksheet in same spreadsheet file...

[Jim McLaughlin]

try this:

highlight cell to be copied> click edit >click copy;>navigate  to sheet
where cell is to be pasted> navigate to cell on second sheet where original
cell is to be pasted >highlight destination location > edit > click "paste
special"  > on grey pop up screen click "link"

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Clay McCall  wrote:

> I am trying to carry over a =sum() value from a cell in one spreadsheet to
> another cell in another sheet in the same spreadsheet file.  The
> instructions in the help section “Referencing a Cell in the Same Document”
> says that the formula is =sheet2.A1,  I have discovered that if you rename
> the sheets then this does not work.  Why can I not reference a sheet by
> another name?
>
> Thanks for any assist,
>
> R/
> Clay McCall

Re: Referencing a cell from previous worksheet in same spreadsheet file...

[Jim McLaughlin]

That will not work, but only for 1 value in the origin cell on sheet 1.

If the origin cell on sheet 1 undergoes a  value change, that  change will
not carry over to the target cell on sheet 2.

So if sheet 1's origin cell is dynamic, and its value is changed, by, say,
adding another number in to the origin cell [remember, the OP was using the
formula =SUM(:) in the origin cell on sheet 1] one needs o utilize the LINK
function in the "Paste Special"pop up / drop down screen.



On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Steve Ahlers 
wrote:

>
> Even easier, type "=" in the formula bar for destination cell, then
> navigate to the original cell, click on it and hit "Enter" ( or "Return")
>
> Steve
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 3, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Jim McLaughlin 
> wrote:
>
> > try this:
> >
> > highlight cell to be copied> click edit >click copy;>navigate  to sheet
> > where cell is to be pasted> navigate to cell on second sheet where
> original
> > cell is to be pasted >highlight destination location > edit > click
> "paste
> > special"  > on grey pop up screen click "link"
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Clay McCall 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I am trying to carry over a =sum() value from a cell in one spreadsheet
> to
> >> another cell in another sheet in the same spreadsheet file.  The
> >> instructions in the help section “Referencing a Cell in the Same
> Document”
> >> says that the formula is =sheet2.A1,  I have discovered that if you
> rename
> >> the sheets then this does not work.  Why can I not reference a sheet by
> >> another name?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any assist,
> >>
> >> R/
> >> Clay McCall
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Re: can't open 2 programs at once

[Jim McLaughlin]

Brian and JonlyDonly -

STOP.  HITLER.

End this, please.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Brian Barker 
wrote:

> At 12:35 06/06/2016 -0600, Jonly Donly wrote:
>
>> You misquote who wrote the statement.
>>
>
> Sorry, but I didn't: it was definitely you.
>
> Jonly Donly did not post it.
>>
>
> Oh, s/he surely did.
>
> I did.
>>
>
> Sorry, but I cannot call you "I", as I would need to say "I wrote it" -
> and that would definitely be wrong!
>
>
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Re: hi

[Jim McLaughlin]

This is neither rocket surgery nor brain science.

Go to Open Office Help by pressing F1.

Click the INDEX tab.

On the search line, "*superscript text*".

Press the Display radio button.

Follow the directions which come up in the right panel.



On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 5:51 AM,  wrote:

> hi,
>
> how can I insert a small numer in my document for footnotes. For example a
> small 1 or 2 or 3? Please no technical answers. Let's keep it simple.
>
> hi from holland, Henk
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Re: #############################################

[Jim McLaughlin]

Doug -

Its the repetitive hash tag / pound sign in the OP's (Sean's) initial post
which will make many readers think the initial message is SPAM.

Wade is not indicating / stating or implying that a spam message will
create the issue initially described by Sean.

Wade is telling Sean that a subject line should actually describe the issue
/ problem, and not be a meaningless repitition / hash of symbols.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Doug  wrote:

>
> On 06/15/2016 04:41 PM, Wade Smart wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Sean Keough  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I am in dire need of some direction.  I have been pouring myself into a
>>> diary for the past 6 months on an open office word document.  Lots of day
>>> by day details which I need to have safe and secure.  A few days ago I
>>> opened up the program, clicked on the file and instead of 15 pages of diary
>>> I have 15 pages of hashtags.
>>> ##
>>>  and so on.
>>> What can I do?  How do I recover the doc?  I have tired a number of
>>> things and none of them did anything.  I just can't believe that it would
>>> just be gone like that with no recourse.Please respond quickly as I
>>> need to continue to journal.
>>> Thank you, Sean Keough
>>> 636.734.1009
>>>
>> Some direction -> Subject line. It should describe the problem.
>> This one - it indicates spam.
>>
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>> Wade, can you tell us what kind of spam would create this problem, and
> what (if anything) could be done to identify and block it?  I'm not using
> OO, but I suppose this sort of attack could
>
> bollix up any program.  Or does it only attack OO?
>
> --doug
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Re: Languages Office Writer

[Jim McLaughlin]

Dan -

SNIP

> 2.
>How well do you understand the use of styles in Writer? If not
>well you need to learn. There are chapters on styles that will be
>very helpful.
>



> Where are these "chapters" on styles located?
>



> On 7/5/2016 9:40 AM, chaxiraxi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I normally write in German, but as I am living in Spain, many words are
>>> spanish, too. Buant always the program put These red lines under the
>>> spanish words.
>>>
>>> As I know, I can´t use more than one language with this program, but I
>>> think it would be very useful if there will be a function to use more
>>> languages, at least two at the same time.
>>> It is only a idea, but maybe you find a solution?
>>>
>>> Uli Reissaus
>>>
>>> Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Languages Office Writer

[Jim McLaughlin]

Brian -

Yes, it does help.

Thank you.

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Brian Barker 
wrote:

> At 10:22 09/07/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:
>
>> Where are these "chapters" on styles located?
>>
>
> In the documentation, available from
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides .
>
> As you will see, styles are covered in Chapter 3 of the Getting Started
> Guide, "Using Styles and Templates", as well as in Chapter 6, "Introduction
> to Styles", and Chapter 7, "Working with Styles", of the Writer Guide.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
>
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Re: propagating changes

[Jim McLaughlin]

Brian -

Thank you for the walk through on managing and changing default fonts in
Writer.  Esay to follow and helpful.

A slightly related question:

How do I change the default font in Calc?  I have vision issues and both
the Arial font structure as well as the default size are an issue for me.
While I can change each new spreadsheet's font type and size on the tool
bar, I'd prefer a manner in which I can change the default font to my
preferred one.

While I am in a Calc window, the Tools > Options> Open Office > Fonts, or
Tools>Options>Open Office > Calc or Tools>Options>Open Office > Calc Base
don't give any of the plethora of ways to change font options that are
available in an OPen Office window.

Thoughts?

Thank you in advance.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Brian Barker 
wrote:

> At 15:13 19/07/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote:
>
>> I have a large document I work on this time of year. the default font
>> size is 11pt but now I want to change it to 10.5pt - gonna make it into a
>> booklet. simply altering the 'default' setting does not automatically
>> modify the font size through the document.
>>
>
> This depends on what you mean by the "default setting". I'm guessing that
> you have changed the value at Tools | Options... | OpenOffice Writer |
> Basic Fonts (Western) | Default - and you are right: this changes the
> default for new documents only and not anything in a document currently
> open for editing.
>
> I don't want to 'select all' since there are other font sizes bound to a
>> couple of 'styles' I'm using.
>>
>
> Good: that wouldn't be the best solution. But you are using more styles
> that those "couple" you describe, since every paragraph will have a
> paragraph style with its own font size. If you have not knowingly ascribed
> a paragraph style to any part of your document, they may have the Default
> paragraph style (not to be confused with the default set in Options as
> above).
>
> how do I change a setting and have it 'propagate' automagically through
>> the document? or is that not possible?
>>
>
> o Go to Format | Styles and Formatting (or click the Styles and Formatting
> button in the Formatting toolbar, or press F11).
> o Select the Paragraph Styles button in the button bar of that window.
> o Put the cursor into your text to see which paragraph style is
> highlighted as being used.
> o Right click the paragraph style and select Modify... .
> o Modify the font size as required.
> o If this doesn't change all the relevant parts of your document, repeat
> in unaffected parts and change those paragraph styles too.
>
> maybe copy and paste into a suitable template?
>>
>
> No need.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
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Re: propagating changes

[Jim McLaughlin]

Brian -

Thank you for the hints for an automatic universal font change in Calc.

I will create a new template and invoke that for my spread sheet usage
going forward.  I will increase the number of sheets to 10, rather than the
default 3, and set a properly (for my eyes) sized font on each sheet,  and
delete un used un needed sheets from various spreadsheet documents.  Having
all sheets within one document pre "formatted" to the desired font and size
will be less frustrating than having to remember to invoke the template for
each sheet added.

Again, thank you.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Brian Barker 
wrote:

> At 12:57 19/07/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:
>
>> How do I change the default font in Calc?  I have vision issues and both
>> the Arial font structure as well as the default size are an issue for me.
>> While I can change each new spreadsheet's font type and size on the tool
>> bar, I'd prefer a manner in which I can change the default font to my
>> preferred one.
>>
>
> I think the only simple way to do this - which is very simple - is to
> create a template.
>
> o Create a new spreadsheet document.
> o Click in the small rectangle at top left (where the row and column
> headers meet) to select the entire sheet.
> o Make all the formatting changes you wish.
> o Go to File | Templates > | Save..., give the new template a name, and OK
> to save it - probably in My Templates.
>
> When you need a new spreadsheet, invoke this template via File | New> |
> Templates and Documents, or the Templates and Documents entry in the
> drop-down menu under the down-arrow next to the New button in the Standard
> toolbar, or the Templates... button on the start screen.
>
> If you wish, you can make your new template the default for new
> spreadsheet documents:
> o Go to File | Templates > | Organise... .
> o Open My Templates and select the new template.
> o Click Commands | Set As Default Template.
>
> Note that this formatting affects only any sheets you apply it to
> individually, so you should consider formatting all three of the sheets a
> new document has by default - or perhaps even more. Even if you do this,
> any new sheets you create in documents derived from this template will -
> perhaps surprisingly - have the original defaults, not yours. You can work
> around  this by creating additional sheets by copying existing ones instead
> of creating new ones.
>
> If it suits your practices better, you can save a template or a copy or a
> shortcut to it wherever you prefer - perhaps on your desktop.
>
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
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Re: Conveting files from Word Perfect x7

[Jim McLaughlin]

I have not used any Word Perfect product in at least a  dozen years.
I do not know what file formats WP 7 uses.

It is my understanding that Open Office (OO) 4.2.1does not directly handle
the PW file format *.wpd, due to licensing issues with Corel, the publisher
of Word Perfect.

Similarly, OO does not handle the *.docx file formats whic the newer
versions of MIcro$loth Word and Micro$loth Office utilize.

I know that there are "work arounds" for the Micro$oft files, which can be
forced to save documents in the *.doc format.

I do not know if there are similar workarounds for the Word Perfect file
formats within Word Perfect 7.

I do know that the MIcro$oft Word / Office work arounds require that yu
have Word / Office available upon your machine in addition to OO.

Hopefully others more familiar with WP7 will join in this discussion.

On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Grethe Simonsen  wrote:

> Hello.
>
>
>
> Before downloading open office Apache, i would like to insure, that it is
> possible to convert files from Word Perfectx7 to Apache.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kindly
>
>
>
> Grethe Simonsen
>
>

Re: Double line spacing

[Jim McLaughlin]

virii

On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016, Doug wrote:
>
> I agree that I brought up the word "manuscript" since something like a
>> term-paper or a dissertation might frequently
>> be called by that term, and I thought that the derivation from the Latin
>> would be of interest. To those interested in
>> language, it might be noted that "manus" even tho it has a masculine
>> ending, is feminine, not only in Latin, but in
>> Italian, (la mano) French, and even in the non-Romance language, German
>> (die Hand).
>>
>
> I do love a little lightly spread pedantry!
>
> so how do you guys pluralize 'virus'?
>
> f.
>
> --
> Felmon Davis
>
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> -- Mark Twain
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Re: Double line spacing

[Jim McLaughlin]

A writer whom I rather like was credited with commenting that my country
and his were unfortunately separated by a  common language. I have always
thought that to be
a quite accurate observation.

I suggest that we agree to disagree and each withdraw from the field, each
knowing that we are each separately correct as to preferred usages in our
respective geographic areas.
Languages , even Latin, are living things and continually evolve.  Perhaps
only Carthaginian appears to not do so. Scipio Aemilianus (Scipio
Africanus) seems to have taken care of that.

In any event, I think that half breed, Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill
had an apt point.

I promise to not make fun of your side's silly pronunciations of "clerk"
and spelling and pronunciation of "aluminum" if you will refrain from
calling me silly for my usage preferences.




On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Brian Barker 
wrote:

> At 13:14 06/08/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:
>
>> virii
>>
>
> Sorry, but that's sillier than silly. If "virus" were a second declension
> noun with a Latin plural (which it isn't), its plural would be "viri", not
> *"virii". Latin "viri" is actually the plural of "vir" and means "men". (I
> suppose some people do believe that all men are slime.)
>
> *"Virii" would be the plural of the (non-existent) *"virius".
>
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Re: Can't open program

[Jim McLaughlin]

*"What am I doing wrong?"*
You mean in addition to using a MAC?

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:35 PM, dc  wrote:

> I have an iMac running 10.10.5 Yosemite.  I downloaded OpenOffice 4.1.2 as
> a disk image.  I opened and moved OpenOffice into the Applications folder.
> When I double click OpenOffice a message appears saying Verifying
> "OpenOffice"... The time bar doesn't initiate or move.  It seems to just
> stall.  I can't open the program without this procedure.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Ranna Christenson
>

Re: add a custom dictionary for my local language

[Jim McLaughlin]

The longest journey starts with byt a  single step.

If you wait for someone else to create your custom dictionary, you will
never have it.

No one else will create the custom dictionary for you.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 5:46 AM, Brahim B.  wrote:

> I like to add 3 entries. I cannot add all this one by one
> On 26 Sep 2016 13:32, "Martin Groenescheij" 
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 26/09/16 6:36 PM, Brahim B. wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I like to add a custom dictionary for my local language for SPELL
> CHECKING
> >>
> >> Tamazight language not exist so i like to create my own dictionary
> >> tamazight.dic for spell checking from words list.
> >>
> >> And add it here : C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Application
> >> Data\OpenOffice\4\user\wordbook
> >>
> >
> > No need to wait for a reply.  Just create an empty tamazight.dic file and
> > whenever a word comes up
> > with a squirrel underline add it to the dictionary from the menu.
> >
> >
> >> waiting your reply.
> >>
> >> B. Brahim
> >>
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Re: Update

[Jim McLaughlin]

I'm missing somethingdid the install work or not work?

Your post gives no data regarding the success of lack of same.

Does your post have a point?

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 10:13 AM, John Gregson  wrote:

> I am using 4.1.2.
> Tried to update to 4.1.3 using the built-In update checker.
> I am using Win 10.
> John.
>
>
> J. Gregson
> jfgreg...@shaw.ca
>
>

Re: Update

[Jim McLaughlin]

Just because i was curious, I went to the openoffice.org web site and
downloaded 4.1.3 directly, without using the "updates" drop down within OO
4.1.3

Download and install under Windoze went quickly and without any apparent
hitches.  Reads all my old documents created in each of 4.1.3; 4.1.2; 4.1.1
and 3.x.x

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Andrea Pescetti 
wrote:

> John Gregson wrote:
>
>> The Check for updates Windows appears.
>> "Open office 4.1.2. is up to date"
>>
>
> This is expected. We always wait a couple days before enabling update
> notifications, to avoid spikes of traffic. We'll probably enable them
> during the weekend.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: New Open Office Apache program

[Jim McLaughlin]

Nothing at all *sub rosa *about Apple.'s corporate culture of ripping off
their customers.



On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Jim Driscoll 
wrote:

> Dear Sir,
>
> I have a new Apple Mac Pro computer. I previously had to get special
> permission from Apple to open your old Open Office program. I made a
> permanent change to my Apple computer to access other down loaded programs.
>
> Now Apple in their updates has changed my computer back to no new programs
> unless approved by Apple.
>
> I downloaded your new Open Office Apache updated program and you made it
> seem so simple, like Apple would give me no problems. Apple again shut your
> program down. Now I have no access to my documents.
>
> I need help. This time Apple will not help.
>
> Any recommendations on computers because I am selling all my Apple
> iPhones, my 2 MacPros and various other Apple devices. Apple dumped 236 of
> my CD downloaded songs in a transfer from iPhone 5 to iPhone 6s. They did
> this transfer at the store with no backup. So it was Apples software that
> dumped the songs. Apple can now be described as Sub Rosa Crooks.
>
> Jim Driscoll
> jimdriscol...@gmail.com
> 971-678-1905
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Re: cannot download office 4...

[Jim McLaughlin]

Just because i was curious, I went to the openoffice.org web site and
downloaded 4.1.3 directly, without using the "updates" drop down within OO
4.1.3

Note that I used the openoffice.org web site and did not use Sourceforge.

Download and install under Windoze 10 went quickly and without any apparent
hitches.  Reads all my old documents created in each of 4.1.3; 4.1.2; 4.1.1
and 3.x.x

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Fred Brown  wrote:

> I cannot download this upgrade because I keep getting an invalid
> certificate message.   I try to accept the certificate but get blocked
> anyway as shown below.  Would you update your certificate or give me a
> mirror site to use?   Thanks.
>
> Fred Brown
>
> 
> This domain is blocked due to content filtering.
>
> If you think this shouldn't be blocked, please contact your network
> administrator
> .
>
> Diagnostic Info
> IP Address: 96.89.129.33
>
>
>

Re: cannot download office 4...

[Jim McLaughlin]

Yes Brian I noticed.  No it was not Sourceforge.

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 11:35 PM, Brian Barker 
wrote:

> At 23:09 14/10/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:
>
>> ... I went to the openoffice.org web site and downloaded 4.1.3 directly,
>> without using the "updates" drop down within OO 4.1.3. Note that I used the
>> openoffice.org web site and did not use Sourceforge.
>>
>
> That's clever: how did you do that? Yes, you start at the OpenOffice site,
> but (did you not notice?) you are transferred to sourceforge.net for the
> actual download.
>
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Re: Invitation to collaborate in usability survey

[Jim McLaughlin]

Willfully rude and insulting, John?


On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 12:34 PM, John Hart  wrote:

> On 10/19/2016 11:04 PM, lucrecia.ller...@predoc.uam.es wrote:
>
>> This research aims to provide empirical evidence to resolve many
>> usability issues with which the OpenOffice Writer community is unfamiliar.
>>
> Willfully ignorant?
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Re: Re-Install Open Office Suite in new Windows 10 computer

[Jim McLaughlin]

Do what Janes Knott said.

AND BE SURE THAT YOU DOWNLOAD ONLY FROM:

www.openoffice.org


No where else.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 10:21 AM,  wrote:

> I recently purchased a new Windows 10 computer and would like to know how
> to install the Open Office suite The new machine rejects the installation.
> I received a message telling me that I should contact the provider to get
> the version for Windows 10.  I had been using it in my pervious machine.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>

Re: Windows 10 default Apps

[Jim McLaughlin]

Bert -

A. Why not just remove Micro$loth Word?

B. Also remove Open Office and use instead the fully functional Libre
Office?

 While Douglas Hamilton will come all unglued that some one dares speak
truth to power,, the reality is that OO is a dying application.



On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Bert Carter  wrote:

> Hello Martin,
>
> Thanks for your advice.  I've tried that but it remains a mystery to me!
>
> Regards, Bert Carter
>
> -Original Message- From: Martin Groenescheij
> Sent: Thursday, 24 November, 2016 3:27 PM
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: mar...@groenescheij.com
> Subject: Re: Windows 10 default Apps
>
>
>
> On 24/11/16 12:59 PM, Bert Carter wrote:
>
>> Greetings to Whoever,
>>
>> I have used Open Office for a few years now and find it excellent.
>>
>> Previous the default program to open documents on my computer has been
>> Open Office.
>>
>> Windows 10 has changed the default program to Microsoft Word and I can’t
>> change it back to Open Office no matter how hard I try.
>>
>
> Try Control Panel --> Defaults Programs
>
>
>> Can you please advise how I can change it back?
>>
>> Regards,  Bert Carter
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Windows 10 default Apps

[Jim McLaughlin]

Wrong as usual Brian.

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Brian Barker 
wrote:

> At 15:55 24/11/2016 -0800, Jim McLaughlin wrote:
>
>> Bert -
>> A. Why not just remove Micro[soft] Word?
>>
>
> Probably because that wouldn't help him! Removing the current default
> product cannot reset the associations to OpenOffice, which is what he asked
> about.
>
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Re: DOCX file extension

[Jim McLaughlin]

Not directly.  One of the many "features" of OO 4,x.x

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 6:59 AM, David Kendal  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have the most recent version of Open Office but am unable to
> open DOCX files sent to me.
>
> Is there a way of opening these files?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David Kendal

Re: DOCX file extension

[Jim McLaughlin]

BS right back at you.  Three folks in this thread are reporting exactly
that unacceptable performance.

You really need to understand that there are lots of OO users out here
who's experiences with OO are sub satisfactory, and learn that you persuade
no one of anything with your immediate resort to insults and foul language
because others have experience different from yours.



On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Larry Gusaas 
wrote:

>
>
> On 2016-11-26, 1:59 PM Jim McLaughlin wrote:
>
>> Not directly.  One of the many "features" of OO 4,x.x
>>
>
> BS. I can open any docx files that have been sent to me with Apache
> OpenOffice.
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 6:59 AM, David Kendal  wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have the most recent version of Open Office but am unable to
>>> open DOCX files sent to me.
>>>
>>> Is there a way of opening these files?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> David Kendal
>>>
>>
>> __
>>
>>
>
> --
> _
>
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> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind
> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>
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Re: DOCX file extension

[Jim McLaughlin]

To quote the world's self appointed expert, "BS".

Not a blatant falsehood.

If you have any ability to read and understand the meaning of the words you
are reading, you'll eventually figure out that my statement is a blatant
truth.

In my experience, OO, does not open .docx files but all too frequently
requires a sort of "translator" to open.

Now stop playing with your computer, and stop playing with your self, get
out of your mother's basement and go play outside with the other children.



On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Larry Gusaas 
wrote:

> On 2016-11-26, 2:36 PM Jim McLaughlin wrote:
>
> BS right back at you.  Three folks in this thread are reporting exactly
>> that unacceptable performance.
>>
>> You really need to understand that there are lots of OO users out here
>> who's experiences with OO are sub satisfactory, and learn that you
>> persuade
>> no one of anything with your immediate resort to insults and foul language
>> because others have experience different from yours.
>>
>
> You stated "Not directly", which is a blatant falsehood. AOO does open
> .docx files directly. Occasionally some people have problems. One poster on
> this thread stated about 1 in 300 files didn't open. I have never had a
> problem.
>
> In other words AOO does  directly open .docx files, contrary to your
> fallacious statement.
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Larry Gusaas 
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 2016-11-26, 1:59 PM Jim McLaughlin wrote:
>>>
>>> Not directly.  One of the many "features" of OO 4,x.x
>>>>
>>>> BS. I can open any docx files that have been sent to me with Apache
>>> OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 6:59 AM, David Kendal  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>>> I have the most recent version of Open Office but am unable to
>>>>> open DOCX files sent to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way of opening these files?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> David Kendal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>
> --
> _
>
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> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
> "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind
> theirs." - Edgard Varese
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Re: What should be a simple Question

[Jim McLaughlin]

As others have noted, with regard to OpenOffice 4.x.x the answer is
basically  "Yes".

I am going to espouse heresy here.

I have used OO about 4 years.  When I started, it was a  reasonable
alternative to the Micro$loth product.

Over that time period, IMHO OO has gone downhill.  Too many bugs not fixed;
too many problems ignored.  (The user profile / dictionaries /. spell check
being only the most common one.)  Its a  result of too few volunteer
developers.  I don't have those development skills, so I can't help with
those issues.  I am a  tool user, not a  tool builder.  I think I have
found a  tool  which suits my needs better, that being LibreOffice.  I am
in the process of running both suites in parallel and think that I will be
eliminating OO sometime after the New Year.

Libre Office is available at:

www.libreoffice.org

LibreOffice is the same price as OpenOffice, i.e. free.

I have no economic or proprietary interest in either OpenOffice or
LibreOffice.  Just a fellow looking for a  better tool.





On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 11:52 AM, James Flikkema  wrote:

> Dear Sir or Madam:
>
>
>
> I am getting tired of MS Office, and OO appears to be a possible
> alternative, However.  I have years of documents (Word, Excel, Outlook,
> PowerPoint) that I need.
>
>
>
> This should be a simple question, Will OO read Office 2010 files?  If not,
> there is no way I can dump thousands of documents to .txt files so they can
> be read.
>
>
>
> I hope the answer is yes, .
>
>
>
> James Flikkema
>
> porta...@twc.com
>
>

Re: Impress keeps changing my font color to black

[Jim McLaughlin]

The chronically obnoxious Mr. Groenescheij runs true to form yet again.

Totally lacking in communication skills, and being utterly without any
actual knowledge with which to answer another user's question, Mr.
Groenescheij
resorts to a snarky put down of both the original poster and a statement
from the original poster.

For Martin, this is what comes of living alone in his Mother's basement for
the last 30 years.

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Martin Groenescheij <
mar...@groenescheij.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 27/12/16 5:46 AM, Lalith Ramesh wrote:
>
>> It was to rule out the possibility of issues when the presentations were
>> first created.  If you can't access the original Keynote software that's
>> fine; we can still help you.
>>
>
> OK, and where is the help then?
>
>
>> On Dec 26, 2016 07:40,  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Lalith - why Apple forum?
>>> I'm using Impress on OpenOffice Windows
>>>
>>> On 25/12/2016 at 8:04 PM, "Lalith Ramesh"  wrote:You might want to
>>> open another thread in Apple discussion forums:
>>>
>>> Discussion.apple.com
>>>
>>> On Dec 23, 2016 06:01,  wrote:
>>>
>>> ​Dear Open Office,

 I've had a problem where Impress automatically changes all of the

>>> font
>>>
 color of all of my presentations to black. Since most of the time,

>>> my
>>>
 presentations are created with black backgrounds and some can

>>> contain
>>>
 50-100 slides, changing them manually to white (the original color

>>> in
>>>
 which they were created with Keynote) is, as you can imagine, a
 painstaking ordeal.
 Is there any easier solution to this?

 Many thanks,
 Jacques


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Re: Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3 Install

[Jim McLaughlin]

SElf proclaimed Apple fanatics like Goeyass are incapable of actually
learning.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 6:17 PM, Julian Thomas  wrote:

>
> > On Jan 5, 2017, at 16:32, Larry Gusaas  wrote:
> >
> > Answered in the Forum many times. The solution is listed under Known
> Issues in the release notes
>
> For the umpteenth time, this should not be relegated to the release notes;
> there should be info or a link on this issue in the top level page of the
> help file.
>
> 
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Re: Cant access a template

[Jim McLaughlin]

Yet another instane of a  long festering defect in the OO "organization"
and the inability or unwillingness of the organization to resolve it.

OO is effectively dead.

Try Libre Office fr a  somewhat better experience.

Sad to be a *former* OO user, but after a  while dealing with the defective
OO offering is no longer worth the effort.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Brune, Edward <
edbrune2...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

> cbrainpower-13-creativ-learning-made
>
> I was trying to download cBrain-Power 1.3  from your Apache OpenOffice
> Templates  and I keep getting Access Denied.
>
> |
> |
> |
> |   ||
>
>|
>
>   |
> |
> |   |
> Apache OpenOffice Templates
>|   |
>
>   |
>
>   |
>
>
> Its labeled as free, so I was perplexed.  Can someone help?
> Thanks,Ed Brune

Re: Help needed NO FORUM PLEASE

[Jim McLaughlin]

So you are a dumb shit incapable of receiving advice in th omly manner in
which it is offered.

Your problem.

Send microsoft youur money and begone from the forum.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:32 PM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Feb 2017 23:43:06 -0200
> Giulli Castro  wrote:
>
> > So I apparently cannot have my open office in english and make a text to
> > be corrected in the other four languages I speak and work with, right?
>
> Incorrect.
>
> > Because although I have a language pack and dictionaries, IT DOES NOT
> > WORK. When I click to have the correction, it does not correct in any
> > other languages installed on the extensions.
>
> This is a symptom of incorrect installation of dictionaries and languages
> on your computer. Note that correction, be it of spelling or grammar, is
> passive - an error is flagged and it is your choice whether to apply the
> spelling correction or to edit the text to eliminate the grammatical error.
>
> > I am better off installing work for windows again. -_-
>
> If that makes  you happy, do it.
>
> > if you have a solution, please reply. Do not send me to forums, I am a
> > cyber crimes volunteer, I do NOT work with "socializing" online, and
> > most definitely do not do 'forums'. Only direct contact. Thank you.
> > --
> > -- Giulli Castro
>
>
> This thread in the en-Forum, which, please note, can be read without
> registration on the Forum, may answer your problem.
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=87088
>
>
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Re: Libre Office

[Jim McLaughlin]

Libre Office works.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 11:19 AM, John Gregson  wrote:

> What is the difference between Open Office and Libre office?
>
>
>
>
>
> J. Gregson
> jfgreg...@shaw.ca
>
>

Re: Libre Office

[Jim McLaughlin]

No, it doesn't.

OO is a  bad joke.  yaers and years with the same defects, unresolved.
Dictionary issues; shut down failures; us profile issues.  They continue
forever, and there is no resolution bu the project authors.

Bad joke.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> So does OpenOffice.
>
>
> Am 06.02.2017 um 20:59 schrieb Jim McLaughlin:
> > Libre Office works.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 11:19 AM, John Gregson  wrote:
> >
> >> What is the difference between Open Office and Libre office?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> J. Gregson
> >> jfgreg...@shaw.ca
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Re: Libre Office

[Jim McLaughlin]

Vinnie -

You and I have neen using OO since the same edition /ssue.

It has had the same flaws, faults and defects since then, without any
appatent willingness of the developer to fix those flaws faults and defects.

Enough is enough.

Stop being a  turkey.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Vincent A. Juliano 
wrote:

> No doubt that’s true for you but one chicken doesn’t make a flock.  Maybe
> if you really tried figure out how to make to go it’ll work out you. I’ve
> been using Oo since Oo2 and it still is the best around.  Sorry your
> chicken’s  a klutz instead of a leghorn..
>
> Vincent Juliano
> vjuli...@optonline.net
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Jim McLaughlin 
> wrote:
>
> No, it doesn't.
>
> OO is a  bad joke.  yaers and years with the same defects, unresolved.
> Dictionary issues; shut down failures; us profile issues.  They continue
> forever, and there is no resolution bu the project authors.
>
> Bad joke.
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Matthias Seidel <
> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de
>
> wrote:
>
>
> So does OpenOffice.
>
>
> Am 06.02.2017 um 20:59 schrieb Jim McLaughlin:
>
> Libre Office works.
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 11:19 AM, John Gregson  wrote:
>
> What is the difference between Open Office and Libre office?
>
>
>
>
>
> J. Gregson
> jfgreg...@shaw.ca
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Libre Office

[Jim McLaughlin]

Amazing Matthias.

I give you a  litany of the defects that have plagued OO since at least ver
2.0, unrepaired, and yourr response is personal perjorative insults.

So mature.

Your inability or unwillingness to discuss OO's defects is of course your
admission that my criticism of OO is accurate.



On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Yes, enough is enough.
>
> It is time for you to go to bed!
>
> Am 06.02.2017 um 21:36 schrieb Jim McLaughlin:
>
> Vinnie -
>
> You and I have neen using OO since the same edition /ssue.
>
> It has had the same flaws, faults and defects since then, without any
> appatent willingness of the developer to fix those flaws faults and defects.
>
> Enough is enough.
>
> Stop being a  turkey.
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Vincent A. Juliano <
> vjuli...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> No doubt that’s true for you but one chicken doesn’t make a flock.  Maybe
>> if you really tried figure out how to make to go it’ll work out you. I’ve
>> been using Oo since Oo2 and it still is the best around.  Sorry your
>> chicken’s  a klutz instead of a leghorn..
>>
>> Vincent Juliano
>> vjuli...@optonline.net
>>
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Jim McLaughlin 
>> wrote:
>>
>> No, it doesn't.
>>
>> OO is a  bad joke.  yaers and years with the same defects, unresolved.
>> Dictionary issues; shut down failures; us profile issues.  They continue
>> forever, and there is no resolution bu the project authors.
>>
>> Bad joke.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Matthias Seidel <
>> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> So does OpenOffice.
>>
>>
>> Am 06.02.2017 um 20:59 schrieb Jim McLaughlin:
>>
>> Libre Office works.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 11:19 AM, John Gregson  wrote:
>>
>> What is the difference between Open Office and Libre office?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> J. Gregson
>> jfgreg...@shaw.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Installing OO.o

[Jim McLaughlin]

Why would Microsoft alter Windows Defender in Win 10 to make use of open
source garbage like OO 4.1.3 easier?

Microsoft is in the business of selling, among other things, Office and
Word.

You truly think that Microsoft wiould willingly cut into the sales of
Office or Word to assist Open Office users?

You are at best naive.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 5:20 AM, nasrin khaksar 
wrote:

> hello.
> java is specially required for base.
> if you only need writer, you dont need to install java for writer!
> also i read that windows deffender is not compatible with opensource
> office suites and considers them as trojan.
> microsoft should solves this problem for windows ten users.
>
> On 2/25/17, Hagar Delest  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Java is needed for some features only. Basically, AOO will work without.
> > Installing a JRE is not difficult, you have to install the 32bit version
> > however.
> > There is also a bug but with a workaround if you have difficulties. See:
> > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=87501
> >
> > Beware, you're not subscribed to the list, you may miss other replies.
> >
> > Hagar
> >
> >
> > Le 25/02/2017 à 02:09, Nicholas Cady a écrit :
> >> Please help me. I have been using OpenOffice Writer on a Vista computer
> >> for several years. I just bought a Dell Windows 10 computer, and
> >> downloaded OpenOffice to it. It ran sort of OK, but Windows got quite
> >> balky so I deleted the OO.o.
> >>
> >> I really want to use OO.o Writer again. But I read in one place that you
> >> need Java for functionality, and in another that you don’t. So could you
> >> please tell me what I really do need to install and run OO.o Writer?
> >>
> >> Thank you for your info and help   --   Nick Cady,
> >> c...@unr.edu
> >
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Re: Installing OO.o

[Jim McLaughlin]

Imagine how much I care what you think.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 9:14 AM, M Henri Day  wrote:

> 2017-02-26 18:01 GMT+01:00 Jim McLaughlin :
>
> > Why would Microsoft alter Windows Defender in Win 10 to make use of open
> > source garbage like OO 4.1.3 easier?
> >
> > Microsoft is in the business of selling, among other things, Office and
> > Word.
> >
> > You truly think that Microsoft wiould willingly cut into the sales of
> > Office or Word to assist Open Office users?
> >
> > You are at best naive.
> >
>
> ​And you, «Jim McLaughlin» are at best a fool for posting so silly and so
> rude a message to this forum
>
> Henri
>

Re: Installing OO.o

[Jim McLaughlin]

And yet you've responded twice to my post, which you could have ignored.
You apparently do think I care, and lack the self restraint to control
yourself.

I own you.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:48 AM, M Henri Day  wrote:

> 2017-02-26 18:38 GMT+01:00 Jim McLaughlin :
>
> > Imagine how much I care what you think.
> >
>
> ​And imagine, dear «Jim McLaughlin»​
> ​, how much any user of open source office suites cares what you
> «think»
>
> Henri
>

Re: Open Office Latest Update

[Jim McLaughlin]

Get an actual computer and operating system instead of an Apple product.

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Edwin Irving  wrote:

> Just updated to Open Office 4.1.3 and now I can’’t open the App. I get
> “OpenOffice" can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified developer.
>
> "Your security preferences allow installation of only apps from the Mac
> App Store and identified developers."
>
> At first it wouldn’t let me download the update until I turned off my
> Firewall. After doing this, it downloaded and replaced the older version.
> Now it won’t open and gives me the above messages even after the firewall
> is turned off.
>
> What can I do to open the APP?
>
> Thanks Ed

Re: Open Office Latest Update

[Jim McLaughlin]

So sad that facts so often ruin your day.

Even sadder that you are incapable of any communication without profanity
and threats of violence.



On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Larry Gusaas  wrote:

> On 2017-04-06, 4:31 PM Jim McLaughlin wrote
>
> Get an actual computer and operating system instead of an Apple product.
>>
>
> Take your anti-Apple FUD and shove it.
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Edwin Irving  wrote:
>>
>> Just updated to Open Office 4.1.3 and now I can’’t open the App. I get
>>> “OpenOffice" can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified
>>> developer.
>>>
>>> "Your security preferences allow installation of only apps from the Mac
>>> App Store and identified developers."
>>>
>>> At first it wouldn’t let me download the update until I turned off my
>>> Firewall. After doing this, it downloaded and replaced the older version.
>>> Now it won’t open and gives me the above messages even after the firewall
>>> is turned off.
>>>
>>> What can I do to open the APP?
>>>
>>> Thanks Ed
>>>
>>
>> __
>>
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Postal Bar Code Add on - US

[Jim McLaughlin]

Running Open Office (OO)  4.0.1 with all updates current up to 19 Feb 2014.

OS is Windows 7 with all updates up to 19 Feb 2014.

16 gig memory, 4 TB disk space.

Long ago I used Word Perfect 8.0 which had a  built in feature for adding a
US postal service
bar code either below the typed Postal Zip Code, or atop the first line of
the address, when printing either shipping labels or standard business size
envelopes.  It was a very useful feature.

I have looked in vain for an analogous feature within OO  4.0.1, but not
yet been able to locate one, either within OO, or as an Add On or Plug in.

Can anyone here direct me to such a  feature, either native to OO, or as an
add on or plug in.

Thank you.

Jim McLaughlin

Re: Postal Bar Code Add on - US

[Jim McLaughlin]

Mr. Jordan -

Thank you for the information.

I had never thought of that with respect to the USPS.

Back when I used the WP 8 feature, it seemed that mail with the barcode for
the nine digit zip did result in a  one full day faster delivery.

There was once upon a  time before I retired as the Secretary of a hobby
group that I did have 800 or so pieces of mail to send as business or bulk
rate stuff.  But that was probably 15 - 20 years ago.

The fellow who is now performing that function for the group posts it to
our websiter and E mail the stuff.

Still, I will miss the bar code for the 9 digit zip on the envelopes /
mailing labels.  Some how, it just looks better, more complete and
professional, with the bar code for trhe 9 digit zip.

Thank you again for the information.

I guess my age is showing.


Jim McLaughlin


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:10 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 18:41:48 -0800
> Jim McLaughlin  dijo:
>
> >Long ago I used Word Perfect 8.0 which had a  built in feature for
> >adding a US postal service
> >bar code either below the typed Postal Zip Code, or atop the first
> >line of the address, when printing either shipping labels or standard
> >business size envelopes.  It was a very useful feature.
> >
> >I have looked in vain for an analogous feature within OO  4.0.1, but
> >not yet been able to locate one, either within OO, or as an Add On or
> >Plug in.
> >
> >Can anyone here direct me to such a  feature, either native to OO, or
> >as an add on or plug in.
>
> I used to use that feature in WP also, but then I discovered it was
> useless for me. One day a customer came in holding a letter that I had
> mailed her with my barcode on her address, and the post office had
> sprayed their own barcode on the envelope as well. The barcodes were
> identical, so it made me curious.
>
> I called the post office and discovered that they automatically spray
> their barcode on all mail, whether it comes in with a barcode already
> on it or not. The exception is large mailings that go through the
> Business Mail Unit, i.e., bulk mail and presorted mail. If I recall
> correctly you must mail at least 500 pieces at a time to use the BMU.
> For the rest of us, putting the barcode on the envelope is pointless.
>
> The post office has astonishingly good scanners that read the address
> printed on the mail, calculate the barcode, and spray it on, and at a
> speed that would leave you speechless. Humans are used only for mail
> that the automated equipment kicks out. Since the post office scans it
> anyway, my mail just needs a clearly printed address on it to ensure
> that the scanner can read it accurately, and an address that conforms
> to postal standards.
>
> As for whether LO/OO can put a barcode on the envelope, I don't know
> because I stopped trying to do it years ago.
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Re: windows 7

[Jim McLaughlin]

I've been using 4.0.1 very well with Windoze 7 Home Premium.


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Robert Wray  wrote:

> Hi Folks,  I note that Open Office is compatible with windows XP and 8 but
> windows 7 is not mentioned.  Can I use it with Windows 7?  Thanks.
> Bob
> bobro...@bellsouth.net

Re: OpenOffice Weekly News #2

[Jim McLaughlin]

29 April 2014 14:58 Pacific daylight Time (US) the blog link is still
returning a 404 error.


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Don Daugherty wrote:

> On 4/28/2014 7:24 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> The new issue is out and you can find it here:
>>
>> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_weekly_news_2
>>
>> Remember, this is powered by your submissions.  So be sure to add new
>> stories to the wiki, so we have material ready for next week:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40508638
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
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> OUTSIDE the Apache.org domain?
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Re: Suggestion.

[Jim McLaughlin]

I would certainly "second" Gordon Lee's suggestion for ver. 5.x.x that
having a
parallel to the Corel/WP "reveal Codes" function would be invaluable.


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Sarala Lee  wrote:

> Sir / Madam,
> For many years I used WordPerfect as my Word Processor and Desktop
> Publisher to produce a 12 page newsletter. I have never found a better
> program. As I now have iMac I use Openoffice and have found that satisfies
> most of my requirements.
> However there is one very important property (if that's the right
> word) that WP had that is missing from all the Word Processors that I have
> used. That is what WP called "Reveal Codes", where every change that was
> made in the document was shown by a particular code. e.g.: Hard return was
> "HRT". If this was not what was wanted then you could make the change you
> required. Or as sometimes happens in OpenOffice, something happens which I
> don't understand, I have no way of finding out why.
> Would it be possible to incorporate this feature in OpenOffice? It
> would enhance this program's appeal to me and, I'm sure to many others who
> still hanker for the user friendliness of WP.
> Gordon Lee.
>
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Re: not working version of OO4.1.0

[Jim McLaughlin]

Google 401.msi

The msi extension is a  Microsift Installer file.

I found a series of conversations back in November, 2013 regarding 401.msi
errors for OO with a  purported link to a file source to fix thise errors.
Following is what I found:

*openoffice401*.*msi* download -
2shared
www.2shared.com/file/4iqcHDSx/openoffice*401*.html
Nov 13, 2013 - Here you can download file *openoffice401*. 2shared gives
you an excellent opportunity to store your files here and share them with
others.

There are a whole lot more references to 401.msi on Google, but I'm not
going to look at all of them since I'm not having the problem.  You might
want to Google 401.msi yourself.


IF YOU DOWNLOAD A FILE FROM "THE WILD", BE SURE YOUR ANTIVIRUS PROTECTIONS
ARE WORKING, and examine the download carefully for trojans, virii,, and
other nastiness before installing it anywhere.

I had a  similar issue with an HP printer which wanted a "TrayApp.msi".
That is an HP written installer file for a feature for my HP printer.  I
felt safer with a  file from HP, but still ran it through Kaspersky before
using it.  The .msi from HP did solve my printer issue.  I have no idea if
the 401.msi out there in the wild will solve your OO issue.

If you do try the 401.msi, please let us all know what happens.

Good luck.


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Maurice Dorscheidt <
fam.barbap...@hotmail.se> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> The message says:
>
> failure 1316 and due to this I can not uninstall the older version of
> OO4.0.1
> due to the same error I can not install the newest version 4.1.0
>
> I tried to uninstall but it requests the missing 401.msi.
>
> I don't know what to do?
>
> Maurice
>
>
>
> Carson Chittom skrev 15-5-2014 0:55:
>
>> Maurice Dorscheidt  writes:
>>
>>  I am getting a bit >:o . I downloaded the newest version of OO 4.1.0
>>> because the older version said: new update available. since I have
>>> downloaded the new file NOTHING works any more.
>>>
>> I understand that you're frustrated, but "NOTHING works" is not a
>> summary of your problem(s) that enables us to help you.  What are you
>> trying to do?  What is OpenOffice doing when you do that?  What error
>> message (if any) do you see?  What operating system is this on?  (Seems
>> like Windows from what's in your message, but it never hurts to ask.)
>>
>>
>>  I can not install OO because of a fail 1316 some windownsinstaller
>>> file for Open Office401msi will not work. tried to uninstall the older
>>> version and clean my PC.
>>>
>> What does the error message say?  What error to you get when you try to
>> uninstall the older version?  Can you install/uninstall other software?
>>
>>
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Re: Suggestion.

[Jim McLaughlin]

This has been a  very interesting thread.

It has also been the single most posted to thread I've seen in the six or
so months I've been a subscrber to this group.

What fascinates me is that other than the three defender's of OO
"orthodoxy" regarding "styles" ve. alternative methods, like a WP "reveal
codes" approach, the overwhelming majority of posters appear to desire the
WP/Corel "Reveal Codes" option to the very steep learning curve of the
"styles " approach.

Food for thought.

If the programmers behind OO want to provide a word processor which will
attract users, and avoid the very high costs of the MJKS or Corel products,
those programmers might want to seriously consider the efficacy of
providing what the users who have expressed an opinion appear to want,
rather tahn take the "...my way or the highway..." approach expresseed here
so far.

Not trying to start a pissing contest.  Just pointing out what the
admittedly unscientifif opinion sample in this thread has so far shown.

Is there a  technical reason why a Corel/WP "Reveal Codes" function can not
be implemented in 5.x.x?


On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Doug  wrote:

>
> On 05/14/2014 02:12 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday 14 May 2014 05:29:45 PM Brian Barker wrote:
>>
>>> At 23:38 14/05/2014 +1000, Marina Tadiello wrote:
>>>
 In general, and from a user's perspective, Styles are one example of
 how common users are encouraged (or forced? :-) to think ("program")
 and behave like computers.

>>> Yes, manual formatting is available. But using it is kind of perverse,
>> because
>> it means doing more work than necessary, and cutting yourself off from
>> important features.
>>
>> Here's how I describe manual formatting in the introduction to the book
>> I'm in
>> the middle of completing:
>>
>> "Office suites are as old as the personal computer. Yet, after more than
>> thirty
>> years, few of us have bothered to learn how to use them.
>>
>> "Oh, we have learned how to get things done in them. Most of us can
>> format a
>> document and print it out, after a fashion. But what we haven't learned
>> is to
>> do these things efficiently, taking advantage of all the tools that are
>> available.
>>
>> "It is as if we have learned enough about cars to go down hill in them and
>> coast across level ground, but never learned about the ignition. We get
>> things
>> done, but with more effort and less efficiency that we should. Some
>> tasks, like
>> going uphill, we don't imagine are even possible because of our limited
>> view."
>>
>>  I, being an enemy of "styles," in general, explain myself thusly: I
> probably
> never write anything more than three pages long. I am not writing a book.
> I don't have chapters. I don't use bulletted lists, altho I might if
> bullets were easier to use _without_ styles! I don't have "Front Pages" or
> whatever chapter heads are called in fancy books. I don't have chapters
> at all, so I don't need pages that end in the middle before going on with
> my text.  I don't even indent paragraphs, but if I wanted to, it would be
> no big deal to push the tab key. (Actually, most word-processors have a
> format command that would do that for me, if I wanted it.) And since I
> don't write books, or edit them  or publish them, i don't need a desktop
> publisher, which is what _I_ think OO/LO are aiming to be.
>
> On the other hand, if I needed a desktop publisher, and didn't want to
> or could not afford to purchase a "professional" one, I would certainly
> look at the possibility of learning and using OO/LO. From what I read
> in these lists, that would be a real possibility. Someone who is willing to
> spend the time to actually write a book can probably afford the time to
> learn desktop publishing.
>
> One more thing: I am not in any way trying to dissuade anyone from
> learning OO/LO, if that's what they want. I am, however, pointing out
> that it is hardly worth the effort for the average memo writer, letter
> writer, or even article writer. It would be like a numismatist learning
> metallurgy!
>
> I rest my case.
>
> --doug
>
>
>
>
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>
>

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

[Jim McLaughlin]

All the more reason why the open source community operating under the
Apache umbrella should add a "Reveal Codes" analog to OO.


On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Doug  wrote:

>
> On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote:
>
>> If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code,
>> what is the problem?
>>
>>
>>
>>  The problem is that most versions of WordPerfect don't run on Linux.
> (WordPerfect 12 word processor only will run, but can't read the latest
> Microsoft formats. Also, it may be difficult to find the program.)
>
> --doug
>
>
>
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>

Re: Help for users@openoffice.apache.org

[Jim McLaughlin]

Me too.

My second one came in on 24 May.

I notice the others were dated 25 May.
\
This is the second message I received.












































*"Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
users@openoffice.apache.org  mailing list. I'm
working for my owner, who can be reached at
users-ow...@openoffice.apache.org .
Messages to you from the users mailing list seem to have been bouncing.
I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received. If this
message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will
remove your address from the users mailing list, without further notice.
I've kept a list of which messages from the users mailing list have bounced
from your address. Copies of these messages may be in the archive. To
retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request), send a
short message to:> To receive a subject and author
list for the last 100 or so messages, send a short message to:
 >
Here are the message numbers:75727617764477237735 ---
Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received. Return-Path: <>
Received: (qmail 98155 invoked for bounce); 14 May 2014 21:30:57 -
Date: 14 May 2014 21:30:57 - From: mailer-dae...@apache.org
 To: users-return-75...@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: failure notice*

The message received on 24 May was the second I received.  The first was
about 4 weeks earlier.  Unfortunately, I did not save the first such
message,  just deleted it after I determined that my E mail addy was
working fine and that nothing appeared to have bounced.

Very odd.


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria <
rosemari...@verizon.net> wrote:

> I'm also getting messages like that.
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Rochelle
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 12:33 AM
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Help for users@openoffice.apache.org
>
>
> Is anyone else getting messages like this one? I've gotten a couple of them
> & ignored them, Don't understand why, as I'm getting  the emails
> Rochelle
> On Sunday, May 25, 2014,  wrote:
>
>  Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
>> users@openoffice.apache.org  mailing list.
>>
>> I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
>> at users-ow...@openoffice.apache.org .
>>
>> This is a generic help message. The message I received wasn't sent to
>> any of my command addresses.
>>
>>
>> --- Administrative commands for the users list ---
>>
>> I can handle administrative requests automatically. Please
>> do not send them to the list address! Instead, send
>> your message to the correct command address:
>>
>> To subscribe to the list, send a message to:
>>>
>>
>> To remove your address from the list, send a message to:
>>>
>>
>> Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list:
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Similar addresses exist for the digest list:
>>>
>>>
>>
>> To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail:
>>>
>>
>> To get an index with subject and author for messages 123-456 , mail:
>>>
>>
>> They are always returned as sets of 100, max 2000 per request,
>> so you'll actually get 100-499.
>>
>> To receive all messages with the same subject as message 12345,
>> send a short message to:
>>>
>>
>> The messages should contain one line or word of text to avoid being
>> treated as sp@m, but I will ignore their content.
>> Only the ADDRESS you send to is important.
>>
>> You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
>> for example "john@host.domain", just add a hyphen and your
>> address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
>> >
>>
>> To stop subscription for this address, mail:
>> >
>>
>> In both cases, I'll send a confirmation message to that address. When
>> you receive it, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.
>>
>> If despite following these instructions, you do not get the
>> desired results, please contact my owner at
>> users-ow...@openoffice.apache.org . Please be patient, my
>> owner is a
>> lot slower than I am ;-)
>>
>> --- Enclosed is a copy of the request I received.
>>
>> Return-Path: >
>> Received: (qmail 70994 invoked by uid 99); 25 May 2014 11:38:25 -
>> Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org)
>> (140.211.11.136)
>> by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 25 May 2014 11:38:25
>> +
>> X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=5.0
>>
>> tests=ASF_LIST_OPS,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,HTML_
>> MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS
>> X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org
>> Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of rhub...@gmail.com
>> designates 209.85.217.170 as permitted sender)
>> Received: from [209.85.217.170] (HELO mail-lb0-f170.google.com)
>> (209.85.217.170)
>> by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 25 May 2014 11:38:19
>> +
>> Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id w7so3705642lbi.15
>> for >; Sun, 25
>> May 2014 04:37:58 -0700 (PDT)
>> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a

Re: How to prevent very long text in a cell overlap the footer in Calc?

[Jim McLaughlin]

On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Jesse Lafian 
wrote:

> yo. unsubscribe me please. this shit is super annoying.
>
>
*To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
 *

Re: OpenOffice for Android

[Jim McLaughlin]

On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Jesse Lafian 
wrote:

> I would like to be unsubscribed.
>


*To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
*

Re: OCR A Extended font

[Jim McLaughlin]

In Windows 7, there does not appear to be a  listing under Control
PanelFonts...for the OCR A Extended font about which the first poster
inquired.  No idea about any other "flavor" of Windows.





On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Martin Groenescheij  wrote:

> If you're using Windows open the Control Panel and select Fonts.
> Then double click on the OCR A Extended font
>
>
> On 8-7-2014 8:11, Antonio Tosi wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>> As an enthusiastic Open Office user, I'm happy to join this community.
>> Can anybody tell me how I can add the OCR A Extended font to my latest
>> 4.1.0 installation?
>> It has always been present when updating my former PC but it is
>> missing if I install 4.1.0 from scratch on my new PC.
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>> -
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>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>>
>

LABELS question

[Jim McLaughlin]

Printer is an HP 6310.

OS is Windows 7.

Open Office 4.0.0

Label  sheets are Avery # 5160.

I'd like to print multiple different labels on different column / row
combinations on the Avery sheet.

(Note:  I do not want to print 30 iterations of the same label on a  sheet.)

As it is, I can readily click through to T*ext Document > File > New >
Labels*
and once there get the dialog box, click on various column and row
selections, click single label and click new document.  The screen shows a
single "box" corresponding to the label position on the sheet.  It takes
any entry I type, and allows all sorts of formatting re type faces, colors,
print sizes, centering, etc.

What it won't do is allow me to type a second label with a different text.

I am forced to print the initial label and then open a new label form,
repeat all the steps, enter the second text, and print that, and repeat the
process for any additional labels.

That is amazingly inefficient.

I am sure I am  missing something simple.

How do I enter two different labels in two different label fields, (or
three, or four, or five or six, for that matter) without having to
reinitialize the "LABEL" function?

Its a frequent occurrence that I need to make 4 or 5 labels with different
texts at one time.

I was readily able to enter multiple labels on a single label sheet with
both Word and WordPerfect.

This shouldn't be Rocket Surgery or Brain Science.  What am I missing?

Thank you.

Re: LABELS question

[Jim McLaughlin]

Yes, thank you, problem solved.

I was certain that there was something simple which I was overlooking.


On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Brian Barker 
wrote:

> At 16:00 13/07/2014 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:
>
>> Printer is an HP 6310. OS is Windows 7. Open Office 4.0.0. Label sheets
>> are Avery # 5160.
>>
>>
>> I'd like to print multiple different labels on different column / row
>> combinations on the Avery sheet. (Note: I do not want to print 30
>> iterations of the same label on a sheet.)
>>
>> As it is, I can readily click through to T*ext Document > File > New >
>> Labels* and once there get the dialog box, click on various column and row
>> selections, click single label and click new document.
>>
>
> It's odd that you should choose "Single label" if your need is to print
> multiple labels.
>
>  That is amazingly inefficient.
>>
>
> True.
>
>
>  I am sure I am missing something simple.
>>
>
> I think you are.
>
>
>  How do I enter two different labels in two different label fields, (or
>> three, or four, or five or six, for that matter) without having to
>> reinitialize the "LABEL" function?
>>
>
> On the Options tab of the Labels dialogue, for Distribute choose "Entire
> page" but remove the tick from "Synchronise contents". The fact that you
> will see all thirty labels outlined in the sheet is no problem, of course:
> all that will print is whatever you choose to insert in any of the label
> fields.
>
>
>  I was readily able to enter multiple labels on a single label sheet with
>> both Word and WordPerfect.
>>
>
> And now - I hope - with OpenOffice.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
>
>
> -
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>
>

Re: What's this "Warning from users@openoffice.apache.org"

[Jim McLaughlin]

Me three on getting these odd missives.  Show up about every three weeks,
and despite the text, no "bounced messages" are ever attached.

Very odd.


On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Rochelle  wrote:

> Good question. I get them too, but not recently.  I've asked and have not
> gotten any answer either and have been ignoring them since.
>
> Rochelle
>
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Maurice Howe  wrote:
>
> > This isn't the first time I've gotten a msg like this.  Why does this
> > happen?
> >
> > And the promised "...attached copy of the bounced message..." isn't.
> >
> > Maurice Howe
> > maur...@stny.rr.com
> >
> > ~~
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> > [mailto:users-h...@openoffice.apache.org]
> > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 5:36 PM
> > To: maur...@stny.rr.com
> > Subject: Warning from users@openoffice.apache.org
> >
> > Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
> > users@openoffice.apache.org mailing list.
> >
> > I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
> > at users-ow...@openoffice.apache.org.
> >
> >
> > Messages to you from the users mailing list seem to
> > have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
> > message I received.
> >
> > If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe
> bounces,
> > I will remove your address from the users mailing list,
> > without further notice.
> >
> >
> > I've kept a list of which messages from the users mailing list have
> > bounced from your address.
> >
> > Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
> > To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request),
> > send a short message to:
> >
> >
> > To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages,
> > send a short message to:
> >
> >
> > Here are the message numbers:
> >
> >8297
> >8298
> >8300
> >8299
> >8301
> >8302
> >8303
> >8304
> >8305
> >8306
> >8307
> >8308
> >8309
> >8310
> >8311
> >8316
> >8312
> >8313
> >8314
> >8315
> >8317
> >8318
> >8319
> >8320
> >8321
> >8322
> >
> > --- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
> >
> > Return-Path: <>
> > Received: (qmail 61646 invoked for bounce); 3 Jul 2014 16:20:18 -
> > Date: 3 Jul 2014 16:20:18 -
> > From: mailer-dae...@apache.org
> > To: users-return-82...@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: failure notice
> >
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> >
> >
>

Boots, instructions, and unsubscribing

[Jim McLaughlin]

Dennis-
Rather than repeatedly performing an action which does not yield the result
you are seeking, why not actually read and follow the directions for
unsubscribing from the Open Office forum?

Or are you too stupid to pour piss out of a  boot while reading the
directions written on the sole of the boot?

To unsubscribe, you must send an original E mail, from the account you used
to initially subscribe, to:

users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org

Merely repeatedly relying to other posts here with a request that you be
"unsubscribed" will not accomplish what you seek, and it will seriously
annoy the residents.

When in doubt, RTFM and follow the instructions.

Inserting jpeg into .odt document

[Jim McLaughlin]

I have created a document, saved with the .odt extension.

I want to insert a .jpeg file int the document, between paragraphs in the
teext within the document.

I am having difficulty getting the .jpeg file to appaer and print within
the document.

Would some kind soul here walk me through the steps I need follow to
accomplish this task.

I have looked in the Pictures Toolbar list, found the "Insert File" command
button but cannot get that command button to appear in the standard tool
bar by copying  into the standard tool bar, nor can I get the Pictures
toolbar to open at all.

I am seriously off the track here and would appreciate some guidance.

Thank you.

Re: Inserting jpeg into .odt document

[Jim McLaughlin]

Thak you, that resolved the issue.


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Brian Barker 
wrote:

> At 06:41 30/07/2014 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:
>
>> I have created a document, saved with the .odt extension. I want to
>> insert a .jpeg file into the document, between paragraphs in the text
>> within the document. I am having difficulty getting the .jpeg file to
>> appear and print within the document.
>>
>
> o Go to Insert | Picture > | From File... .
> o Browse to and insert the picture.
> o Drag a corner of the picture to adjust its size. Hold down the Shift key
> when releasing the mouse button to maintain the aspect ratio of the picture.
> o Drag the picture into position.
> o Right-click the picture and go to Anchor > and Wrap > separately.
> Experiment with settings to suit.
>
>  I have looked in the Pictures Toolbar list, found the "Insert File"
>> command button ...
>>
>
> That's simply an alternative route to the same place as Insert | Picture >
> | From File... above.
>
>  ... but cannot get that command button to appear in the standard tool bar
>> by copying  into the standard tool bar, ...
>>
>
> I don't know why you need to do this. Buttons are where they are. But if
> you really need to:
> o Go to Tools | Customise... | Toolbars.
> o For Toolbar, select Standard.
> o Click Add... .
> o Under Category, select Insert.
> o Under Commands, select From File.
> o Click Add and Close.
> o Use the arrow buttons to move the button around in the Standard toolbar
> as preferred.
> o Click OK.
>
>  ... nor can I get the Pictures toolbar to open at all.
>>
>
> Go to View | Toolbars > | Picture.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
>
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>
>

Re: problem with installation

[Jim McLaughlin]

Alan -

Thank you for the pointers to the malware cleaner and registry cleaner
programs.

Very valuable to tuck away in case of future need.

Thanks again.


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Alan B  wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 5:59 PM, wjs  wrote:
>
> > I have tried downloading Open Office three times and each time the setup
> > program seems to work well.  However, the program freezes about three
> > quarters of the way through the installation process.  This same problem
> > happens every time.  I am running windows 7.  Can you advise me what I
> need
> > to do to get it to work?
> >
>
> Don't know from the information you've provided but typical ways to prevent
> install problems would include:
> - first look in Control Panel to see if Windows thinks OpenOffice was
> installed. If it does try the uninstall
>
> then
>
> - use OpenOffice install only if downloaded from
> https://www.openoffice.org
> (you are redirected to http://sourceforge.net but that's okay)
>
> - make sure Windows is clean and stable (no malware on system, registry
> doesn't have spurious entries)
>  -- Malwarebytes is great for cleaning malware from system,
> https://www.malwarebytes.org/
>  -- CCleaner is great for cleaning kruft from registry,
> https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner
>
> - make sure Windows is up to date (latest updates have been run)
>
> - if install still not successful make sure Antivirus is shut off and try
> install again BUT be sure to turn Antivirus back on when you're done!
>

Re: I want to install Open Office version 1 on a Windows 98 SE installed computer.

[Jim McLaughlin]

What disk?

Where did you get the disk?

I suspect you purchased the disk from a  third party reseller, and if so,
you are taking several risks.

I urge you to DOWNLOAD the Open Office 4.0.1 or 4.1.0 or whatever it is
this week directly from either:

 www.openoffice.com

or

www.sourceforge.com


These are the two official sites from which to obtain Open Office.

The downloads are without charge for the Open Office program.

You may have fees associated with your ISP in providing the download
connection.


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Mr Berwyn H Price 
wrote:

> Hi
> I want to install Open Office version 1 on a Windows 98 SE installed
> computer.
> But I need clear step by step instructions because the ones that are
> included on the disc are not very clear.
> Please can you help by providing me with such instructions.
> Thank you for your patience in this matter & I do look forward to
> receiving a reply from you soon in the near future.
> From
> Mr Berwyn H Price

Re: emails bouncing`

[Jim McLaughlin]

I also get the same set of "bouncing E mail messages".  I got all panicked
the first couple of times, but I wisely learned to ignre them.

It is a tad irritating that the "Powers Who Have Appointed Themselves To
Be", though notified of and aware of the issue with the list management
software, have routinely ignored both the problem and the annoyance it
causes.

Sort of like ignoring the need for a "reveal codes" analog function in OO
Writer, instead assuming that everyone must - and will, or else! - learn
the  "styles" system.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Wade Smart  wrote:

> Norman, about once a month I get a email saying I have three
> or so messages that didnt come in.. but when I look they
> are in my inbox so I think its a bit off. Ignore it (my opinion).
>
> Wade
> --
> Registered Linux User: #480675
> Registered Linux Machine: #408606
> Linux since June 2005
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> > This one came fine.
> >
> > On 10/7/14, Norman Ince  wrote:
> >> I don't know why the messages should be bouncing unless the twc service
> >> is that bad.  Just switched to time warner and they seem to be working
> ok.
> >>
> >> My present address is no...@twc.com
> >>
> >> I did send through a change of address .  I hope you will see that the
> >> correct address if on your mailing list.
> >>
> >> Norman Ince
> >> no...@twc.com
> >>
> >>
> >> -
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alexandro Colorado
> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9  5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> >
>
> -
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> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>
>

Re: en lecture seule

[Jim McLaughlin]

There is no need for your insulting remarks regarding the use of French in
the newsgroup.

I'm American, not Canadian, yet I am bi lingual in English and French.

You will note that the original poster, M. Chenavier, provided a full
translation, into idiomatic American English, of his question.

Nonow that I think of it, you wouldn't have noticed.



On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Urmas  wrote:

> nochenav...@free.fr:
>
> > Je viens d'acheter un PC Acer aspire V3-111p avec Windows 8.1
>
> Please do not write this gibberish in the Internet newsgroups. No one is
> going to translate it for you.
>
> > The concern is that when I save a file in the folder, it is is read only
>
> _Which_ folder?
> _What_ becomes read-only?
> _Which_ version of OOo?
> It is impossible to help without a readable description.
>
>
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>
>

Re: Re: FW: Open Office error

[Jim McLaughlin]

This was an almost  content free post from Martin ( and that is *really*
unusual.)
All that was in it was the word "image", at left margin,repeated on two
consecutive
lines.


Did the list management software scrub out an enclosure / attachment /
image?

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Martin Groenescheij  wrote:

> Forwarded to poster as he isn't subscribed.
>
>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject:Re: FW: Open Office error
> Date:   Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:57:48 +1100
> From:   Martin Groenescheij 
> Reply-To:   mar...@groenescheij.com
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> CC: mar...@groenescheij.com
>
>
>
>
> On 9-10-2014 10:11, HARISH RAVJI wrote:
>
>> Hi AOO Support,
>>
>> I've reviewed the Release Notes for AOO 4.1.1 and cannot see any
>> reference to the issue below being fixed! Are you able to advise if a known
>> issue and if it has been resolved?!
>>
> And we can not see the images below, so we can't tell you if they are
> fixed or even exist.
>
>>
>> Appreciate your any support or guidance.
>>
>>
>> Thanks & regards,
>>
>> Harish.
>>
>> 
>> From: som...@xtra.co.nz
>> To: harishra...@hotmail.com
>> Subject: Open Office error
>> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:14:57 +1200
>>
>> image
>> image
>>
>
>
>
>

Re: Please Remove me from Open Office Spreadsheet issue

[Jim McLaughlin]

Shocking I know that you can't and won't be waited on, but if you want off
the list, you have to do it yourself.

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> Please take me off the users open office mailing list
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Re: windows 8

[Jim McLaughlin]

yes, it is compatable.

Be very careful which site you use  from which to download OO.

Please use only:

https://www.openoffice.org/

which will redirect to the SourceForge site.



On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Pearl Swan  wrote:

> I am interested in downloading Open Office bit I have windows 8 … is it
> compatible with my computer
>
>
> thank you
>
> Pearl Swan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Windows Mail

Re: Lost info

[Jim McLaughlin]

Alexandro -

Thank you for that reminder.  It caused me to check my save settings and I
noted with horror that I had left the saving interval setting at the
default 15 minutes.

Fortunately I have not yet had an issue, but I was very glad to correct the
interval before having an issue.

On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:

> That means that your file is corrupt. The best way to configure AOO
> under these circumstances is to enable the auto-save feature located
> on Tools -> Options -> Load/Save -> General
> Reduce the minutes of saving, and also enable the option of:
> - Edit document properties before saving
> - Always save a backup copy
>
> This will ensure all your work is saved from the start and continually
> being saved every 3-5 minutes (depending on how much you reduce the
> autosave).
>
> This way your work will not be lost.
>
> On 11/16/14, Rod Huxley  wrote:
> > I have an Acer (all in one) desktop computer. Z5610. I was having trouble
> > with continual instantaneous shutdowns. This I found was/is a problem
> with
> > this unit, which I have now fixed.
> >
> > However, in one of these “shutdowns”, I lost all info on 2 spreadsheets
> that
> > I was using.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now when I open these spreadsheets, a get a Grey Box stating :
> >
> > Text ….The name of my file
> >
> > Character Set UNICODE
> >
> > Default Language English (Australian).
> >
> > And so on
> >
> >
> >
> > When I click OK ...the Spreadsheet opens, but is TOTALLY blank.
> >
> > Question: How do/can I recover this information.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Rod Huxley
> >
> >
> > ---
> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> > http://www.avast.com
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Re: windows 8

[Jim McLaughlin]

>From you E mail address I intuit thatht your primary ISP is in Canada. I do
not know if you are an Anglophone r Francophone, but from your comments I
must presume you are an Anglophone.

I hope that you have downloaded the German language version of Open Office
through the official open office site at www.openoffice.org.  That sdite
provides you many language options for the Open Office suite, and many
options for the operating system under which you will run Open Office.

I suggest that you uninstall the German language version of Open Office
which you have downloaded.  There really is no  way to "switch" it to
English, whether US English, British English, or Canadian English.

After uninstalling the German language version, go to www.openoffice.org
and select the "flavor" of English version which you want to use, as well
as the Operating System you are using, and download ONLY from  www.open
office.org.

The Open Office website will take you to Source Forge, from which your
download will be obtained.

Downloading any language version of Open Office from any source other than
Open Office.org is risky and may result in installation of various forms of
undesirable programs being installed on your system.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Pearl Swan  wrote:

>
> I have my open office downloaded but it is in German ... how do I change
> it into English
>
>
>
> From: pms...@live.ca
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: windows 8
> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:36:56 +
>
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>
>
>
> I am interested in downloading Open Office bit I have windows 8 … is it
> compatible with my computer
> thank you  Pearl Swan
>
> Sent from Windows Mail
>

Re: Commentary and votes on the wording of "Keep Current Format" for saving

[Jim McLaughlin]

How does one "...apply for a BZ account..."?

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:

> Just a post to raise awareness.
>
> We recently had issue 125890 filed that deals with the wording for a Save--
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125890
>
> I don't know how many folks on this list are aware of the voting process
> for issues. But this is one that could use some additional input from you.
>
> If you have any thoughts on this issue, would like to suggest alternate
> wording and/or vote for this issue, please apply for a BZ account and
> give us some feedback.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> -
> MzK
>
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Re: Print Range on Combined Spreadsheet

[Jim McLaughlin]

Dennis -

Thank you.

That is an "elegant" solution to the problem posted.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton  wrote:

> Open the problematic sheet in Calc.
>
> With the cursor initially in cell A1, Click Ctrl-End on your keyboard.
> This will move to the lower-right corner cell of the sheet such that all
> used cells are included in the rectangular grid having that A1 and that as
> corners.
>
> From there, you can start deleting rows or columns as necessary to shrink
> that grid back to one that just includes the necessary cells and excludes
> blank strays.
>
> This is better than setting print area because that often ends up
> excluding information when changes are made or, as seems to be the case
> here, there may be inconsistency in handling multiple sheets in the Calc
> document.
>
>  - Dennis
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Re: Quick Office Pro

[Jim McLaughlin]

Exactly.  That's why Simon is providing info that OO/ Apache is not related
to
Quick Office; explaining that this group can't help re QO, and directing
the person making inquiry to a  possible source for help since that help
can't be obtained here.

I can't think of a better function for a MODERATOR, and it certainly saves
all of us the time to scan, and then ignore, messages about QO.

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Dave Barton  wrote:

> Simon Phipps wrote:
> > MODERATORS:  I have started rejecting incoming e-mails like this one
> with a
> > message stating that QuickOffice is unrelated to Apache and AOO and they
> > should contact their supplier. I suggest other moderators adopt the same
> > approach.
> >
> > S.
>
> -1
>
> We are MODERATORS, not the list police.
>
> Dave
>
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Open Office 4.1.1

[Jim McLaughlin]

Monsieur -

Je suis attristé d'apprendre que vous éprouvez des difficultés à
l'installation d'Open Office 4.1.1

Je embarrassé par le ton et la teneur de certaines des réponses que vous
avez reçues des membres sur le groupe de cet utilisateur.

Pour commencer à répondre à vos questions, nous aurions besoin de savoir:

Type de machine - par exemple PC clone / Mac / autre

Précisément quel système d'exploitation utilisez-vous?

Que les programmes anti-virus utilisez-vous?

Quel navigateur utilisez-vous?

bas de charge du site à partir duquel vous téléchargez?

  Télécharger seulement de www.openoffice.com

Notez que le logiciel pour le groupe de cet utilisateur sera enlever toute
image ou éboulis tir que vous postez. Nous ne allons jamais voir.

Je crois que l'anglais ne est pas votre langue maternelle, le français ne
est pas la mienne. Je ai appris qu'il est parfois utile de composer mes s
matériels en anglais, et d'utiliser un robot de traduction / demande de
traduire en français. Un exemple est à: Ce particular application / bot
traduire du français vers l'anglais ainsi.




 Sir -


 I am saddened to learn that you are having difficulty installing Open
Office 4.1.1


 I am embarassed by the tone and tenor of some of the answers you have
received from members on this user's group.


 To begin to respond to your issues, we would need to know:


 Type of machine – e.g. PC clone / Mac / other


 Precisely which operating system are you using?


 What anti virus programs are you using?


 What web browser are you using?


 down load site from which you are downloading?


 Only download from www.openoffice.com


 Note that the software for this user's group will strip out any picture or
scree shot which you post. We will never see it.


 I believe that English is not your primary language, French is not mine. I
have learned that it is sometimes helpful to compose my material s in
English, and use a translation robot / application to translate into
French. An example is at: https://translate.google.com/ That particular
application / bot will translate from French into English as well.

Re: Open Office 4.1.1

[Jim McLaughlin]

Brian -

Thank you for the correction.
You are of course correct.

Brain fart on my part.  So easy to by habit type .com.

Apologies to all.

On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Brian Barker 
wrote:
>
> At 19:57 13/12/2014 -0800, Jim McLaughlin wrote:
>
>> Télécharger seulement de www.openoffice.com
>> Only download from www.openoffice.com
>>
>
> Do *not* do anything of the sort. Instead, please use only the official
> source, www.openoffice.org .
>
> Brian Barker
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Re: How to get Open Office without Malware

[Jim McLaughlin]

Current version is 4.1.1.

Download safely only from www.openoffice.org

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Marilyn Jackson <
marilynejack...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Hi.  I recently had trouble by downloading Open Office with malware. How
> can I get a version that's safe to use?  I see someone is selling CDs of
> 3.2 on Ebay for the software.
>
> MJ

Re: Downloading Problem

[Jim McLaughlin]

Be sure you have gone only to  www.openoffice.org to begin the download
process.

Open office.org will then take you to the servers at sourceForge for the
actual download.

Beyond that there is little we can do to assist you until you tell us:

Your machine type (PC variant / Mac / other ?)

Operating system ?

Antivirus installed ?

If  one needs administrator rights on your OS, does the machine password
you are using have those rights?



On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:02 PM,  wrote:

> When I click in, “Download Full Installation” nothing happens. I’ve been
> trying to change the version of Open Office but still nothing happens.
> Please help solve this issue, I would really appreciate it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Windows Mail

Re: Schriftenfamilie DejaVu-Fonts

[Jim McLaughlin]

Enough.  No more.

While Urmas' xenophobia is legendary, there is zero reason for Urmas to be
calling Martin "...a fool..." for offering advice to the OP.

TUrmas is apparently not willing to self moderate.  His latest escapade
demonstrates to me that he needs to be barred from accessing this group.

Moderators?

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 7:07 AM, Urmas  wrote:

> "Martin Groenescheij":
>
>  OpenOffice doesn't include fonts
>>
>
> You're a fool. It obviously does.
>
> DejaVu fonts version included is 2.33.
>
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Re: Latest Version.

[Jim McLaughlin]

I use Win 7 HP and had no issues downloading OO 4.1.1 to my machine.

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:14 PM, FC  wrote:

> I use OO 3.4.1 with Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit.
>
> The site openoffice.org/download doesn't seem to offer
> a version for my operating system.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Fred
>
>

Re: Won't print

[Jim McLaughlin]

Tony -

There is no " version of Open Office to buy.

Open Office is freeware.

Don't ever pay any vendor for it.

OpenOffice is available for free and without a  lot of add on junk that
some unscrupolous folks package it with from the official OpenOffice site
at www.openoffice.org.  Going to that site and clicking on the various
download options will rake you to the official servers at the Apache
project (SourceForge) , and the safe download.

Like you, I'm a  senior on a  budget, and the Open Office stuff has been a
godsend.

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Anthony Miggiani 
wrote:

> Dear OpenOffice staff,
>
> Greetings from Toronto.
>
> Just downloaded the free version of OpenOffice, with much gratitude.
>
> Just using it for general text documents. Typed up a page in 3 columns of
> just text. But when tried to print, the resulting dialog box showed only
> FAX - doesn't seem to acknowledge my Canon mono printer anywhere. Is this
> because I need to purchase the full version, or is it something I need to
> learn more about? I'm a senior citizen and on a tight budget month to
> month. I was hoping I could print from this generously provided free
> software.
>
> Please reply if you can.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Tony Mig.
>

Re: Please address "bad allocation", "Not Responding", and 'just blowing up when accessing macros"

[Jim McLaughlin]

Mac or PC

Which operating system

Unclear from your post which version of OO you are using.

Please add this data to your query.

Please do not respond directly to me.  Post only to the list.

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Louis B Bushard 
wrote:

> I have the following problems repeatedly:
>
> "bad allocation" repeatedly (I do frequent saves, but of course spend wall
> clock 'recovering').
>
> "Not responding" happens on the first 'paste' operation frequently and on
> 'saves' which results in "bad allocation" also frequently.
>
> and
>
> "just blowing up when accessing macros" seems to happen each time I access
> the macros the first time.
>
> I do not recall any of the happening before 4.0.0.
>
> Does Open Office plan to fix this soon? I am about ready to spend the
> money for Microsoft Office.
>
> Please respond, Lou Bushard
>
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Re: Please Unsbscribe me from this form

[Jim McLaughlin]

To unsubscribe read, understand, and follow the directions at the foot of
each message.

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You 'unsubscribe" message must be sent from the same e mail account used
when originally subscribing.


On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:49 PM,  wrote:

> Please Unsbscribe me from this form
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Re: Please take me off your support email reply list.

[Jim McLaughlin]

To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org

You must use the same e mail address with which you initially subscribed to
un subscribe.

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Marvin Hubbard 
wrote:

> Dear  openoffice
>
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>
> Thanks
>
> Marvin
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Re: Error 1310 Help

[Jim McLaughlin]

Chris -

Please tell us what kind of machine  you have, i.e. Mac, PC clone, etc.,
and what operating system you are using.

Also, please be  sure that the program you are trying to load was
downloaded ONLY FROM www.openoffice.org , which  redirects to the servers
at sourceforge.com

A copy of OpenOffice sourced from any site other than www.openoffice.org
may be problematic.  While third party providers may offer copies of Open
Office 4.1.1 , experience has shown that many third party providers add
things to, or subtract things from, the official files.

Please respond direct to the users group.

Thank you.



On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Chris Boyd  wrote:

> I have spent hours looking through forums and I can't find an answer
> anywhere that will help me to install the OpenOffice software.  I keep
> getting "Error 1310. Error writing to file cli_basetype.dll.  Can you
> please help me fix this?
>

Re: Word completion

[Jim McLaughlin]

Brian -

Thank you.  I, too, had the same issue and was not aware that there was an
option.  I just lived with it as what I thought was an "artifact" of the
way OO was coded.

I appreciate the tip.

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Brian Barker 
wrote:

> At 15:23 25/01/2015 -0500, Vivian Cotton wrote:
>
>> I am using open office 4.1 on windows 8. I am using the spreadsheet and
>> want to use word completion. It works if I use enter but goes to next row.
>> I want to go to next column.
>>
>
> Go to Tools | Options... | OpenOffice Calc | General | Input settings.
> "Press Enter to move selection " should be ticked. At the right, select
> Right (instead of Down) from the drop-down menu.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
>
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Re: can't extract and finish installation of open office

[Jim McLaughlin]

No, no one viewed the attachment you sent, as the list software strips out
any attachments.

You have been told that twice by other people responding to you.

This list works when users pay attention to its operating constraints.

You have also twice been told that there is no "key" required for OO.  You
have twice been directed to the only official site for )) downloads,
www.openoffice.org, to get your download.

You have been asked once for the identification of the operating system on
the machine  on which you are trying to install OO.

So far, you appear to have ignored every response you have received.

People on this list like to help and often do so quite quickly and
effectively.

However it is very difficult for us to help you if you are unwilling or
unable to actually follow instructions.



On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Keevon  wrote:

> Did you view the attachment i sent?
> I downloaded it from here:  (http://www.openoffice.org/)
> Apache OpenOffice - Official Site - The Free and Open Productivity Suite
> |   |
> |   |   |   |   |   |
> | Apache OpenOffice - Official Site - The Free and Open Productivity
> SuiteThe official home page of the Apache OpenOffice open source project,
> home of OpenOffice Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw and Base. |
> |  |
> | View on www.openoffice.org | Preview by Yahoo |
> |  |
> |   |
>
>
>
>
>  On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:26 PM, jd1008 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 01/28/2015 02:18 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
> > 2015-01-28 21:18 GMT+01:00 Keevon :
> >
> >>-  users@openoffice.apache.org
> >>
> >>  See imaged attached after installation.
> >>
> > Attached files are usually stripped off on this list.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Key not valid.
> >>
> > What key? You don't need a key of any kind for Apache OpenOffice, so
> > obviously you are trying to install something else or you downloaded it
> > from somewhere else than the Apache OpenOffice download site. Don't, just
> > don't.
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Johnny Rosenberg
> > ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
> >
> What platform was AOO being installed on?
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Importing PDF form into OO 4.0.1

[Jim McLaughlin]

I am running OO 4.0.1 on a PC clone under Windows 7 Home Premium edition.

I am looking for a way to import into OO a form created by a  third party
with Adobe in PDF format.  I want to be able to fill out the form with my
computer, rather than print a  blank form and fill in by hand.

For reasons not known to me, the third party did not create a fillable PDF
form, which I can fill out with the 'puter, either within OO or with Adobe
reader.  Other third parties do provide other kinds of fillible forms so I
know it can be done.

I just don't know how.

 I am looking for a way to fill out the form with OO and save it in the
.PDF format.

Any ideas?

Thank you each and all in advance.

Re: Bad download

[Jim McLaughlin]

>From whence did you download OpenOffice?

I suggest that you were not on the only official OpenOffice site, that
being www.openoffice.org.
If you downloaded from that site, and only that site, you will not have any
extraneous and undesired programs added to your download.

Sadly, there are unscrupulous folks who have set up sites offering what is
purported to be OO, packaged with other, sometimes malicious, software.

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Bill Smith  wrote:

> I downloaded open Office  today and when I installed it there was about 4
> programs tried to install with it, Two made it before I could get them
> stopped in the end I had to restore my computer it would not reboot to the
> desktop the was a black screen so I had to go to safe mode and restore the
> computer. you should do something about this.

Re: Bad download

[Jim McLaughlin]

>From whence did you download OpenOffice?

I suggest that you were not on the only official OpenOffice site, that
being www.openoffice.org.
If you downloaded from that site, and only that site, you will not have any
extraneous and undesired programs added to your download.

Sadly, there are unscrupulous folks who have set up sites offering what is
purported to be OO, packaged with other, sometimes malicious, software.

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Bill Smith  wrote:

> I downloaded open Office  today and when I installed it there was about 4
> programs tried to install with it, Two made it before I could get them
> stopped in the end I had to restore my computer it would not reboot to the
> desktop the was a black screen so I had to go to safe mode and restore the
> computer. you should do something about this.

Re: Downloading Upgrade to 4.1.1

[Jim McLaughlin]

Very difficult to try to help if you don't tell us:

a) what site (URL( are you using for your download.   (It should ALWAYS AND
ONLY BE www.openoffice.org),

b)  Web browser and version;

c).  OS and version;

d)  available disk space on hard drive disk you seek to load / install OO
4/1/1

Please reply only on the users@openoffice.apache.org list.

Thank you.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jodi  wrote:

> Unable to download - get nothing when click on the download link. Thank
> you.
>
> Thank you,
> Jodi
> jod...@embarqmail.com