Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)

[doug . lawlor]

I havent used the wallet yet but the app switcher seems to be working fine 
here. 

Best, 

Doug



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> On Sep 20, 2021, at 7:30 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> 
> I just upgraded my iPhone XS. I read the list of bug reports on applevis.com, 
> and there was nothing on the list that I would expect to be a serious problem 
> for my use cases.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
> behalf of skipper8...@gmail.com 
> Date: Monday, September 20, 2021 at 14:33
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
> 
> Hope you enjoy it, but I would advise you not to upgrade to IOS15 yet because 
> some users have reported problems when using the wallet and the app switcher.
>  
> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:31 PM
> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
>  
> thanks to all of you who’ve responded.  I’ve ordered iphone se 2020 - it’s 
> coming tomorrow.  Can’t wait.
>  
> Andrew
>  
> 
> On 20 Sep 2021, at 07:25, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as 
> long as I can because I really don't like Face ID.
>  
> Regards,
> Shawn,
> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
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> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM,   
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> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or iPad.
> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and I do 
> not think it has 5G.
> However, those features are not a priority for me.
> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the iPhone 
> Mini 12 and 13 are out.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky
> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I must say I am very happy with mine too.
> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was using 
> IOS 11 on it. lol
> 
> It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it.
> I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external 
> speaker. The sound quality is quite good.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Take care,
> Tali
> 
> On 9/19/21, skipper8...@gmail.com  wrote:
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> I love the iPhone SE 2020.
> It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8.
> It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery.
> It is the best iPhone I've owned.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
> 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM
> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation (2020).
> My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor.  Would you be happy to 
> share your views/opinions on this iphone with me?
> 
> Andrew
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Selecting Messages in iOS Mail

[doug . lawlor]

Hello all,

Is there an easy way to select a bunch of messages in iOS Mail on the iPhone to 
perform actions such as mark read, Move, Delete, etc? I see an Edit option, but 
when I clic'k this I am able to select one message at a time. I can't figure 
out a way to select multiple messages. 
Does anyone know of an easy way to do this? 

Thanks,
Doug 
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Re: Selecting Messages in iOS Mail

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Hi Joseph, 
I'm running 15 here and don't see a Select all option when the edit mode is 
enabled. I've never done this before on iOs 14 so am not sure what to expect 
here. I may give Apple a call regarding this later today. 

This is interesting to say the least. 

Best, 

Doug

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> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:25 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
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> I think there's a select all at the very bottom. If you're running 14. I 
> have not updated to 15 yet.
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 9:22 PM, doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Is there an easy way to select a bunch of messages in iOS Mail on the iPhone 
>> to perform actions such as mark read, Move, Delete, etc? I see an Edit 
>> option, but when I clic'k this I am able to select one message at a time. I 
>> can't figure out a way to select multiple messages. 
>> Does anyone know of an easy way to do this? 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Doug 
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Re: Selecting Messages in iOS Mail

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Thanks Jonathan, 
My problem was I had Filtering toggled on which makes the Select all button 
disapear.  Turning off Filtering solves this problem. 

Best,

Doug 

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> On Sep 23, 2021, at 6:55 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
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> In IOS 15 it is two swipes to the left after pressing the edit button.
> 
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>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 3:28 AM, doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Joseph, 
>> I'm running 15 here and don't see a Select all option when the edit mode is 
>> enabled. I've never done this before on iOs 14 so am not sure what to expect 
>> here. I may give Apple a call regarding this later today. 
>> 
>> This is interesting to say the least. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:25 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think there's a select all at the very bottom. If you're running 14. I 
>>> have not updated to 15 yet.
>>> 
> On Sep 22, 2021, at 9:22 PM, doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Is there an easy way to select a bunch of messages in iOS Mail on the 
 iPhone to perform actions such as mark read, Move, Delete, etc? I see an 
 Edit option, but when I clic'k this I am able to select one message at a 
 time. I can't figure out a way to select multiple messages. 
 Does anyone know of an easy way to do this? 
 
 Thanks,
 Doug 
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Re: Selecting Messages in iOS Mail

[doug . lawlor]

>From what I'm seeing here it isn't. Its looking like the filtering is only for 
>display perposes only. I hope i'm wrong about that. 

Doug 


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> On Sep 23, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
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> That does not sound good. What if you want to delete all messages with 
> attachments? Would that be possible?   
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 7:58 AM, doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Thanks Jonathan, 
>> My problem was I had Filtering toggled on which makes the Select all button 
>> disapear.  Turning off Filtering solves this problem. 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Doug 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 23, 2021, at 6:55 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In IOS 15 it is two swipes to the left after pressing the edit button.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 23, 2021, at 3:28 AM, doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Joseph,
 I'm running 15 here and don't see a Select all option when the edit mode 
 is enabled. I've never done this before on iOs 14 so am not sure what to 
 expect here. I may give Apple a call regarding this later today.
 This is interesting to say the least.
 Best,
 Doug
 Sent from my iPhone
>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 10:25 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> I think there's a select all at the very bottom. If you're running 14. I 
> have not updated to 15 yet.
>>> On Sep 22, 2021, at 9:22 PM, doug.law...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> Is there an easy way to select a bunch of messages in iOS Mail on the 
>> iPhone to perform actions such as mark read, Move, Delete, etc? I see an 
>> Edit option, but when I clic'k this I am able to select one message at a 
>> time. I can't figure out a way to select multiple messages.
>> Does anyone know of an easy way to do this?
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Problem with Watch OS 8.0

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Hi Paul, 
I can use the workout app here just fine. I can have music playing if I choose 
too, but music comes threw my phone by default. When music starts playing, does 
it play threw the watch or the phone? If music is playing threw the phone you 
should bee able to just double tap the phone screen to stop it: Does that work 
for you? 

Best, 

Doug


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> On Sep 23, 2021, at 5:15 PM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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> Hello,
> I am running Watch OS 8.0 on my Watch SE.
> I used to use the Workout App on the latest Watch OS 7 with no problems. 
> Since moving to Watch 8.0 the Workout App insists on playing music during the 
> workout but cannot do so because it needs the NowPlaying App which was on my 
> Watch under Watch OS7 but is no longer on the watch. When I try to download 
> it from the App store the re-download button is dimmed, presumably because 
> this App will not run on Watch OS 8.0.
> Actually I do not want any music during my workout, but cannot see how to 
> stop the workout insisting on music.
> A consequence of this problem is that I cannot get to the menu to end the 
> workout.
> Do you have any suggestions on how to resolve this problem?
> Many thanks … Paul Hopewell
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Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features Used by Low Vision and Blind Users

[doug . lawlor]

As the president of the CFB, I see a lot of older people who use these 
features. I understand that we should all do our best to learn the iOs 
interface but we also have to understand that a lot of older people just want 
to get the basics done. Even  accomlishing the basics on these devices can 
be quite a difficult task for many users. 
A prime example is writing in braille screen input′ A lot of people are just 
simply not going to get that far. Even simple tasks such as learning the 
concept of singgle and double tapping is a major learning curve for a lot of 
this demographic 

. 
 

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> On Sep 30, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
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> Thanks for sharing this article.
> I have mixed views on this .
> On the one hand, I think it is important to learn Apple's native user 
> interface, but on the other hand it is very frustrating to lose Siri features 
> that people depend on.
> Does the removal of certain Siri features impact sighted users as well or 
> just the visually impaired?
> It doesn't sound like a Voiceover bug to me.
> This hurts Apple's reputation as a trend setter in accessibility.
> The good news is that if you have an Apple Homepod Mini you can still play 
> voicemails.
> 
> 
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Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features Used by Low Vision and Blind Users

[doug . lawlor]

I also prefer to use a keyboard as well. I only use Siri for the most simple of 
tasks such as a fast way to open an application or using it on the Apple watch 
to get my location if I realized I passed a street I was supposed to cross. So 
I'm not a Siri expert by any stretch of the imagination. 
Having said that, I agree these features need to be available for a demographic 
that need them. 

I really enjoy this discussion. 

Best, 
Doug 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 30, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> I appreciate your perspective, and I prefer to use a keyboard over touch 
> screen when I can.
> The population of people you work with who depend on these features are the 
> ones being impacted by this.
> Apple is not sending a good message here.
> Siri has never been one of my favorite digital assistants though.
> There is too much emphasis on cameras and not enough stability in software as 
> far as I'm concerned i.e. taking out features after advertising them.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of doug.law...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features 
> Used by Low Vision and Blind Users
> 
> As the president of the CFB, I see a lot of older people who use these 
> features. I understand that we should all do our best to learn the iOs 
> interface but we also have to understand that a lot of older people just want 
> to get the basics done. Even  accomlishing the basics on these devices 
> can be quite a difficult task for many users. 
> A prime example is writing in braille screen input′ A lot of people are just 
> simply not going to get that far. Even simple tasks such as learning the 
> concept of singgle and double tapping is a major learning curve for a lot of 
> this demographic 
> 
> . 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing this article.
>> I have mixed views on this .
>> On the one hand, I think it is important to learn Apple's native user 
>> interface, but on the other hand it is very frustrating to lose Siri 
>> features that people depend on.
>> Does the removal of certain Siri features impact sighted users as well or 
>> just the visually impaired?
>> It doesn't sound like a Voiceover bug to me.
>> This hurts Apple's reputation as a trend setter in accessibility.
>> The good news is that if you have an Apple Homepod Mini you can still play 
>> voicemails.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of dan d.
>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 7:46 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features Used 
>> by Low Vision and Blind Users
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.macrumors.com/2021/09/29/siri-changes-features-removed/
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Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features Used by Low Vision and Blind Users

[doug . lawlor]

All of these assistants will always have to go to the cloud to get something. 
The main problem I see is that some of the older demographic, who prefer a 
device that has buttons for doing things, have a great deal of trouble 
adjusting to a touch screen environment. These people would be satisfied with 
something resembling either a candy bar or flip phone. If they could use a 
telephone keypad and get voice feedback they would be happy. I don't think any 
of the major carriors in canada cary such a phone. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 30, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Well, until IOS15 Siri had to go to the cloud to get info so I believe 
> privacy compromises were made there to.
> I wonder if the ability to use Siri offline means that certain features were 
> removed.
> This just occurred to me.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 11:05 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features 
> Used by Low Vision and Blind Users
> 
> One thing to keep in mind, though, Rebecca, is that some of us choose not to 
> use Alexa or Google for privacy reasons.  If that’s the case for his clients, 
> your solution would not work.
> Donna
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> I understand where you are coming from, but would it be possible to use the 
>> double tap feature to open up something like Alexa or the Google Assistant 
>> to carry out certain commands and teach this to clients as a backup to Siri?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of doug.law...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 9:53 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features 
>> Used by Low Vision and Blind Users
>> 
>> I also prefer to use a keyboard as well. I only use Siri for the most simple 
>> of tasks such as a fast way to open an application or using it on the Apple 
>> watch to get my location if I realized I passed a street I was supposed to 
>> cross. So I'm not a Siri expert by any stretch of the imagination. 
>> Having said that, I agree these features need to be available for a 
>> demographic that need them. 
>> 
>> I really enjoy this discussion. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> Doug 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 30, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I appreciate your perspective, and I prefer to use a keyboard over touch 
>>> screen when I can.
>>> The population of people you work with who depend on these features are the 
>>> ones being impacted by this.
>>> Apple is not sending a good message here.
>>> Siri has never been one of my favorite digital assistants though.
>>> There is too much emphasis on cameras and not enough stability in software 
>>> as far as I'm concerned i.e. taking out features after advertising them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of doug.law...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 8:26 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features 
>>> Used by Low Vision and Blind Users
>>> 
>>> As the president of the CFB, I see a lot of older people who use these 
>>> features. I understand that we should all do our best to learn the iOs 
>>> interface but we also have to understand that a lot of older people just 
>>> want to get the basics done. Even  accomlishing the basics on these 
>>> devices can be quite a difficult task for many users. 
>>> A prime example is writing in braille screen input′ A lot of people are 
>>> just simply not going to get that far. Even simple tasks such as learning 
>>> the concept of singgle and double tapping is a major learning curve for a 
>>> lot of this demographic 
>>> 
>>> . 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 30, 2021, at 7:59 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
 
 Thanks for sharing this article.
 I have mixed views on this .
 On the one hand, I think it is important to learn Apple's native user 
 interface, but on the other hand it is very frustrating to lose Siri 
 features that people depend on.
 Does the removal of certain Siri features impact sighted users as well or 
 just the visually impaired?
 It doesn't sound like a Voiceover bug to me.
 This hurts Apple's reputation as a trend setter in accessibility.
 The good news is that if you have an Apple Homepod Mini you can still play 
 voicemails.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
 Behalf Of dan d.
 Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 7:46 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Recent Siri Changes Remove Call, Email, and Voicemail Features 
 Used by Low Vision and Blind Users
 
>>

Re: New watch hand gestures

[doug . lawlor]

I don't see anything regarding hand gestures here, but I have the SE. I've 
rooked in the watch app and don't see them:  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 6:35 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I’ve enabled this on my watch series 6 in IOS 15 but the watch is not 
> reacting. I’ve restarted both watch and phone. Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Ian
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Re: Turning voiceover on and off quickly

[doug . lawlor]

You can fix this by going to Settings, Accessibility, Accessibility Shortcut, 
and making sure this is set to VoiceOver. 

Best, Doug 

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> On Oct 19, 2021, at 6:29 AM, 'Andy Logue' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi all.
>  
> I used to  press the home button, on my iphone, three times to quickly turn 
> voice over off or on again, when handing my phone to a sighted user when they 
> were helping me.
>  
> This no longer seems to work so I've got to go the long way around by going 
> into settings, accessability and then voice over.
>  
> Can anyone tell me of a quick way of doing this, theses days.
>  
> Very best wishes.
>  
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Re: Amazon app on the I phone using voice over.

[doug . lawlor]

What is happening here is when you select a product Voiceover can't see any of 
the product description: Very strange! 

Doug 

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> On Oct 19, 2021, at 2:10 PM, Katey Jackson  wrote:
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> It’s broken with voiceover on the iPhone as well as without voiceover. Very 
> strange.
> 
> Katey.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2021, at 9:07 AM, Fazil  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes, I am in Canada and I have problem with Amazon too. I don’t know exactly 
>> when it started but I found out about it on Sunday.
>> Thanks!
>>  
>> From: kawa...@me.com  On Behalf Of kglists via MacVisionaries
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 1:01 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries 
>> Subject: Amazon app on the I phone using voice over.
>>  
>> Hello.
>>  
>> I have the I Phone 12 pro running IOS 15.  I tried buying something on 
>> Amazon using voice over last week but the app isn’t working fully using the 
>> new IOS.  How is anyone using Amazon these days?  I had to use the PC as I 
>> understand that it doesn’t work good with the Mac either.
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
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Re: In latest WatchOs, how do I turn off. sleep mode when I wake up early?

[doug . lawlor]

I'm interested in knowing the same thing. It seems if I do it on the phone 
after a certain time it will let me turn off Sleep mode. If I do it before this 
time just the focus mode gets disabled. 

Best, 

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> Hi all,
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> So it used to be that if I woke up before my alarm went off, I could just 
> turn off sleep and all was well.  But, since upgrading too latest Watch OS, 
> that no longer works.  All it does is turn off the focus.  How do I actually 
> turn off sleep mode, so that my alarm goes off, and my watch calculates my 
> sleep data??
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Documentation for VoiceOver on the iPhone?

[doug . lawlor]

Hi Mike, 

I just did a quick web search and found the following page which I believe is a 
part of the iPhone user guide. Take a look at the following: 

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iphfa3d32c50/ios

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> On Mar 24, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> Your best bet might be to go to Applevis where you can look for what’s new 
> in iOS15. 
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2022, at 05:12, Michael Busboom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Although I have been using VO on the iPhone since the iPhone 4S, I am 
>> wanting to tweak the VO settings on my iPhone 12.  I am wondering if someone 
>> could tell me where I might find that documentation.  When I asked Siri 
>> where I could find VoiceOver documentation, I got two different responses, 
>> depending on how I phrased my question.
>> 
>> Response 1: VoiceOver is already on.
>> 
>> Response 2: I’m over here.
>> 
>> Actually, where can I find documentation for my iPhone 12?
>> 
>> Thanks much,
>> 
>> Mike 
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Re: When It Comes to iPhone, Are You All Thumbs?

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I use mainly Braille Screen Input for typing. Although it takes getting used to at first, It is the best method for me. I started learning bsi after FlickType went away. best, Doug Douglas Lawlor Email: doug.law...@gmail.comOn Jan 19, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:Well, perhaps because I use a SE 2020  iPhone with orientation locked in portrait mode, I can’t imagine using multi finger typing except with braille screen input when the phone is now in landscape mode. I just tried typing with  four fingers in the keyboard area and got nothing but junk.That’s OK, I have my MacBook Air for real typing needs.
		Best wishes,Jonathan Cohn

On Jan 18, 2023, at 12:15 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:Hi!I hold my phone in my right hand and use all my fingers on the left  to type, except the left thumb which I push to the downside where the charging port is./A18 jan. 2023 kl. 07:55 skrev M. Taylor :Hello All,A friend of mine and I got into a discussion about how we type in iOS, whensending text messages.It started when she asked me if I use my thumbs to type.  Even though I knowthat a great many people use their thumbs to enter text on iPhone,personally I find the technique slow and awkward.How do I enter text in iOS?First, I keep my VoiceOver typing mode set to "Touch Typing."Second, I use a folio case.  Not only does such a case cover the displaywhen not in use, it also provides a nifty way to balance the phone in onehand, fingers-free.When entering text, I open the case, kind of like a book, with the walletside to the left and the phone to the right.  I position the phone case inthe crook of my left hand (where the base of my thumb meets my hand) so thatthe back of the phone, in the case of course, is resting against the palm ofmy left hand, leaving all five digits on my left hand, free.  The wallet side of the case acts as a kind of counter balance so that thephone does not slip out of my hand, even when the phone is tilted, off-axis,so to speak.I use my left thumb to access the letters and numbers, located on the leftside of the onscreen keyboard and the index finger of my right hand, toaccess the letters and numbers located on the right side of the onscreenkeyboard.I hold the phone in the exact same way when using Slide-to-Type; except inthat instance, I use my right index finger, only.Okay, that's my method for entering text on iPhone.  How about you?  What technique do you use to enter text in iOS?When it come to iPhone, are you all thumbs? (smile).Mark-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/003401d92b09%24d3cfa0c0%247b6ee240%24%40ucla.edu.-- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/71003467-F96F-44C3-8EFE-E02F05A57E25%40pipkrokodil.se.



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How much ram and storage should i get?

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Hello all, 

It's been a long time since I posted here. I'm in the process of purchasing a 
new Mac and was wondering how much ram and storage people are going with these 
days? I mainly want a machine for web and app testing, some word processing / 
text editing, and some single track audio recording. 

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Re: How much ram and storage should i get?

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Thanks all. That's what I was sort of figuring. Get as much ram and storage as you can afford. Makes sense too. Best, Doug. Douglas Lawlor Email: doug.law...@gmail.comOn Feb 6, 2023, at 11:32 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:No matter what you think, and no matter what others think, you will always want more RAM and storage later on. So best advice is to start with  as much RAM and storage as your budget allows, and then squeeze more juice out of the carrot and move up to the next higher amount of RAM and storage. You won’t regret spending the extra, and remember that once you get the computer you can’t add more after the fact.I’m sitting on a puny 500 G SSD and sorely wish I had purchased at least 1 Tb when I bought it 4 years ago. 
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Re: My files don’t show up in the iOS files app on iCloud

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I can never get iCloud to work from the Windows side. I eventually gave up on 
it from a Windows perspective. I'm not sure why you can't see your files 
especially since you are uploading them from a mac. Could your data still be 
syncing by any chance? How much data did you upload? 

Best, 
Doug 


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> On Mar 8, 2023, at 10:27 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> OK, so I upgraded to a 50 GB storage plan on iCloud, and then I transferred 
> a slew of files into the iCloud Drive. I made a new folder, called my stuff, 
> not that that’s important, and just copied an entire directories structure 
> from my local dropbox files into that iCloud folder. Well, From the Mac side, 
> I can enter the iCloud Drive account and find all those files and they are 
> all accessible, but on my iPhone when I load the Files app, that folder 
> reports as “empty“. I’ve tried its actions, manual and download come I just 
> don’t know what to do. Any ideas why these files are showing up fine on macOS 
> side but not at all on the Files app in iOS? 
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Re: copying text on an iPhone

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Hi Lorie, 

Yes you can do this. 

1. Use the iOS roter and navigate to "Text Selection"

2. Swipe down and you will hear a number of options related to selecting text. 
I just chose Select all and the text of the email minus the signature was 
selected. 

3. Now roter to "Edit" and choose "Copy". 

Let me know if this helps. 

Best, 

Doug 
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> I want to copy the text in an email on my phone and paste it somewhere else. 
> is there a way to do this? I understand how to paste it. what I’m asking 
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Re: copying text on an iPhone

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To add to this, if you select characters, words, or lines as options, you have 
to then swipe right and you'll hear the text as it's being selected. You can 
then roter to the "Edit" option and select "Copy" to copy it to the clipboard 
then navigate to another app ,and paste it their. Here is part of your email I 
copied using this method. 

I want to copy the text in an email on my phone and paste it somewhere else.

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> is there a way to do this? I understand how to paste it. what I’m asking 
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Re: Drobo dashboard, is it accessible?

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Hi Skott,
As of this writing Drobo Dashboard is not accessible. When you launch the 
program VoiceOver does not see the program's controls. It would be nice if we 
could get in contact with the developer and get them to do something about this 
problem. I havent been able to update a Drobo FS in months because of this

Doug

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> I was talking with someone today about nas devices and some issues I have 
> been having. He mentioned the Drobo which I know is pretty expensive and he 
> was explaining that you access the Drobo via a dashboard app that also 
> requires you to install java. I asked if he had ever thought to see if it 
> were compatible with VoiceOver, but he did not. So, I was curious if anyone 
> on the list has used a Drobo and can comment on the accessibility of the 
> Dashboard.
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Re: Drobo dashboard, is it accessible?

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Hi Scott,
Thanks for following up on this. The strange thing is that the earlier versions 
of the software were quite accessible. It was when they reached version 2 the 
problems started. Looking forward to seeing what you can find out. 

Doug


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> Doug, I make no promises and I cannot even tell you what will come of this. 
> However, I have been working through a vendor who has connected me to a nice 
> young lady named Abby at Drobo and she is going to start researching things 
> on her end. I would love to have some resources on how Java-based apps can be 
> made accessible. I suspect the reason they went this route is to be 
> cross-platform compatible. THe more folks I know that want access to the 
> Drobo, the more likely I can make some headway because it is all about the 
> level of demand and the potential market for these products.
> 
> On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> 
>> Hi Skott,
>> As of this writing Drobo Dashboard is not accessible. When you launch the 
>> program VoiceOver does not see the program's controls. It would be nice if 
>> we could get in contact with the developer and get them to do something 
>> about this problem. I havent been able to update a Drobo FS in months 
>> because of this
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2012-03-20, at 8:05 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> I was talking with someone today about nas devices and some issues I have 
>>> been having. He mentioned the Drobo which I know is pretty expensive and he 
>>> was explaining that you access the Drobo via a dashboard app that also 
>>> requires you to install java. I asked if he had ever thought to see if it 
>>> were compatible with VoiceOver, but he did not. So, I was curious if anyone 
>>> on the list has used a Drobo and can comment on the accessibility of the 
>>> Dashboard.
>>> I'll post my other issue in a separate post regarding my nas problem.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
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RosettaStone Software: has anyone tried this?

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Hello list:
I'm just wondering if anyone has tried the RosettaStone language learning 
software. Looking at there FAQ pages I see that it can work on the Mac. I'm not 
sure about accessibility however. I suspect they use a cross platform 
development solution which is always not the most accessible when it comes to 
working with OS10. Again, has anyone taken a look at this? 

Thanks,

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Re: RosettaStone Software: has anyone tried this?

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To be quite honest that's what I figured. They talk about using images to 
convey certain aspects of the language learning. I didn't think the cross 
platform solution, if that is what they are using, wouldn't help either.  

Doug

On 2012-04-11, at 9:04 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote:

> this is just to state clearly that this product will not work for blind users 
> using voiceover. I have been in contact with the developers of the product 
> and they state that due to the method in which the product is designed 
> (graphical nature), voiceover would not work within the environment, 
> 
> I was looking into this very product for my studies in Irish gaelic language 
> as well as German and after long discussions with the developers, it isn't 
> possible without a major redesign of the interface, plus the provision of 
> adapted materials at the expense of the supplier.
> 
> sorry to break this to you but that's what it's going to be.
> 
> lew
> 
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>> Hello list:
>> I'm just wondering if anyone has tried the RosettaStone language learning 
>> software. Looking at there FAQ pages I see that it can work on the Mac. I'm 
>> not sure about accessibility however. I suspect they use a cross platform 
>> development solution which is always not the most accessible when it comes 
>> to working with OS10. Again, has anyone taken a look at this? 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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Getting live regions on a web page to automatically speak?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
I am working with a binary options broker who has live regions on their web 
site that update with pricing information. I can find the region and get it to 
speak by arrowing over it using quickNav. I'm sure VO/left and right arrows 
will do the same thing. The problem I am having is when I'm focused on this 
region VoiceOver does not speak it as it's being updated. I have Live regions 
enabled in the Web tab of the VoiceOver utility. Anyone else have any pointers 
on this?

Thanks,

Doug

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Re: Getting live regions on a web page to automatically speak?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi,
I have made a hot spot and set it to monitor the activity taking place. This 
seems to be working. Only question I have is how do I stop the monitoring if I 
want too? Do I have to remove the hot spot?

Thanks, 

Doug

On 2012-05-07, at 11:55 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote:

> Have you tried making a hotspot and monitoring it?
> 
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> El 07/05/2012, a las 15:22, Doug Lawlor escribió:
> 
>> Hello list:
>> I am working with a binary options broker who has live regions on their web 
>> site that update with pricing information. I can find the region and get it 
>> to speak by arrowing over it using quickNav. I'm sure VO/left and right 
>> arrows will do the same thing. The problem I am having is when I'm focused 
>> on this region VoiceOver does not speak it as it's being updated. I have 
>> Live regions enabled in the Web tab of the VoiceOver utility. Anyone else 
>> have any pointers on this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Doug
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Re: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Christine, 
Yu should be able to upgrade your macbook just fine. Mine is just the white 
macbook from February, 2010 with 4 GB ram and I upgraded it fine today. 

Doug

On 2012-07-25, at 3:31 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> I'm having trouble determining if I can upgrade my MacBook. On the tech specs 
> page, it seems to indicate that only the aluminum MacBooks can be upgraded 
> (along with Mbp, Mb Air, Mb Mini, and iMac). I bought my MacBook in February, 
> 2011. I've got a 2.4 ghz Intel Core 2 Dup processor. Am I okay?
> Christine 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> It's $19.99
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:55 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: upgrading to mountain lion was Loving Mountain Lion
>> 
>> Is it free to upgrade or will a person have to pay?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:24 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Loving Mountain Lion
>> 
>> Good information, thanks! I plan to upgrade in the next few days, maybe
>> today, and I'll keep this all in mind.
>> 
>> On 7/25/12, Timothy Hornik  wrote:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> I am enjoying some of the new features within Mountain Lion. So far I 
>>> played with the Notifcation Center, Message, and Dictation. I will 
>>> cover some of the basics with these and installing Mountain Lion.
>>> First off, I am not an uber mac user, just a standard user with little 
>>> to no experience with understanding anything outside fundamentals of 
>>> Coive
>> Over.
>>> 
>>> Installing Mountain is easy. As stated in a previous email, no 
>>> worries. Just make sure you back-up your system. The only thing I did 
>>> to prepare for the install was update my billing information. I did 
>>> not update any software, run the checker, or anything else as my 
>>> system is
>> a Mac Mini from last year.
>>> The entire install took an hour from hitting the comfirm to buy button 
>>> to logging in.
>>> 
>>> Notification Center Set up:
>>> First thing to do is head to System Preferences, Keyboard, and then to 
>>> the shortcuts tab. You will need to create a shortcut for the 
>>> Notification Center, which is located in the Mission Control option. I 
>>> am using Command Option Shift N for mine.
>>> 
>>> Once done with the shortcut, head back to system preferences and go to 
>>> the Notification Center. You have a table with the various apps that 
>>> use the Notification center. Select each one you wish to receive 
>>> either an alert, banner, or none alert. These pop up just like they do 
>>> on the iPhone and iPad.
>>> 
>>> Now use your shortcut to enable and play with the Notification Center. 
>>> To move away from the center, either Command Tab or find the close button.
>>> 
>>> Messaging
>>> I am really liking this feature. It using iMessage, so you can only 
>>> sent a message to an email or another iMessage user. For this one, you 
>>> need to dig it out from your Application folder, so hit Command Shift 
>>> A or go through finder to find it. Once you find it, open it and 
>>> insert your iCloud information. You will also want to go into the 
>>> dock, and find the Message App. Hit VO Shift M and go down to Option 
>>> and then keep in Dock. I say this, cause you will want this in your 
>>> dock, unless you create a keyboard shortcut for it.
>>> 
>>> The layout is as simple as Messaging is on the iPhone. Best part is, 
>>> iMessages created on the Mac will appear on your iPHone and iPad with 
>>> the same iCloud user ID. This allows you to carry on conversations 
>>> from your Mac and then pick it up while traveling.
>>> 
>>> Dictation
>>> Yeah, this works awesome, even with my mumbling Chicago-ish accent. Go 
>>> back to System Preferences once last time and navigate to Dictation 
>>> and
>> Speech.
>>> Enable it and select your microphone. You will also need to select an 
>>> activation method. The standard drop menu gives you Double Tapping of 
>>> either the Function key, Command, RIght Command, or some other 
>>> combination. When you are in a text field, double tap the key you 
>>> selected
>> and start talking.
>>> When you are done, double tap it again.
>>> Thank you for your assistance,
>>> Timothy Hornik
>>> timothy.hor...@gmail.com
>>> H: 785.856.1172
>>> M: 785.330.3503
>>> LinkedIn Profile: http://tiny.cc/7bfa5
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Re: Installing mountain lion

[Doug Lawlor]

When your system reboots for the first time you can turn on VoiceOver at this 
point to get your percentage of your install progress and the approximate time 
left. When my system rebooted for the second  time VoiceOver came up speaking. 

Doug

On 2012-07-25, at 2:53 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Ok, Les, how do you know when it's ok to turn VoiceOver on when you're 
> installing Mountain lion? I got my computer three days before Lion, and I did 
> my install of Lion at the Apple store. I mean, until you get VoiceOver going, 
> your computer has gone bye-bye for a while. 
> 
> Eugenia Firth
> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
> 
>> Your question is a good one.  Let me assure you that you can do this.  
>> First, you should do a complete backup of all of your data.  Also, make 
>> certain your programs are all up-to-date.  You can check in the App Store by 
>> searching for the word Updates to see if there are any updates available.  
>> It's also a good idea to run Software Update to make certain you have the 
>> most current updates for Lion.  Now, once you've done this, just purchase 
>> Mountain Lion.  It will download and your system will re-boot.  You may have 
>> to turn on VO when your system restarts, but you will then have speech 
>> through the remainder of the installation process.  It took me about an hour 
>> to do the install, just finished, and all went well.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Kirsten Edmondson 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I plan to install ML on Friday or Saturday, when I come back from being 
>>> away. However, my Mac, which I got 10 months ago, came with Lion installed. 
>>> So I've never had to install anything big like this on a Mac before
>>> 
>>> I'm not very good at doing this sort of thing, so I wondered if there was a 
>>> pod cast or some tips which I could use when I install it so that I get it 
>>> right.
>>> 
>>> Is there anything I need to do before I install?
>>> 
>>> Where do I put it?
>>> 
>>> Will it more or less do it for me? Or do I have to get it to do things.
>>> 
>>> If anybody could direct me in the right place that would be great.
>>> 
>>> Sounds totally inept and stupid I know… But…
>>> 
>>> There's no rush, as I said, I won't be doing it till the weekend.
>>> 
>>> Thanks. 
>>> Kirsten 
>>> 
>>> 
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Using Dragon Express with VoiceOver?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
I just purchased Dragon Express for the introductory price of $49.99 and can't 
figure out how to go about accessing the program. There is supposed to be an 
icon in the menu bar but it is the usual problem where VoiceOver can't access 
it. Any other way to access this program? I'm very interested in trying it out. 
 

Doug

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How to share an Internet connection on the mac?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
I've never had to use this since I got my mac. In fact, I've never had to share 
an Internet connection in the past 10 years or so from a computer. 

I know this should be quite simple. I go into Preferences, select sharing, and 
navigate through the table of sharing items until I see Internet sharing. I 
find this but the check box to turn it on is dimmed. 
What I want to do is share a 3g USB modem and use WiFi to connect my two 
iPhones. Anyone know why the check box for Internet sharing would be dimmed? Is 
something done in the software that is installed on your system for these USB 
modems to disable Internet sharing? 

Thanks in advance, 

Doug

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Re: How to share an Internet connection on the mac?

[Doug Lawlor]

I had this working yesterday. It all looks correct on my system but for some 
reason now it isn't working. Strange, 

Doug

On 2011-12-09, at 4:15 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> I've used this before to do a quickie wireless setup where I used my Mac to 
> share out a single network connection via the airport in the machine. I just 
> navigate to Internet Sharing but have to pick the From and To before it will 
> let me turn it on. So in my case I chose Ethernet 1 from the "Share your 
> connection from:" popup. Next there is a table with destination rows. In 
> there you should find one row with AirPort in the Ports column. Each row has 
> a checkbox in the "On" column. So check the airport as on, stop interacting 
> with that table and go back to the Sharing Services table, interact with the 
> Internet Sharing row and you should be able to now check the checkbox in the 
> On column. It will then prompt you with the usual "are you sure..." dialog.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/9/11 5:37 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>> Hello list:
>> I've never had to use this since I got my mac. In fact, I've never had to 
>> share an Internet connection in the past 10 years or so from a computer.
>> 
>> I know this should be quite simple. I go into Preferences, select sharing, 
>> and navigate through the table of sharing items until I see Internet 
>> sharing. I find this but the check box to turn it on is dimmed.
>> What I want to do is share a 3g USB modem and use WiFi to connect my two 
>> iPhones. Anyone know why the check box for Internet sharing would be dimmed? 
>> Is something done in the software that is installed on your system for these 
>> USB modems to disable Internet sharing?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
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Can't remove bluetooth devices

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
I can't seem to remove a bluetooth device. The process sounds simple enough. 
Open bluetooth preferences, select the device you want to remove from the 
device table, navigate to the remove device button and press it. My problem is 
that this button is dimmed. I've also tried routing the mouse to the device and 
pressing the remove button but the button is still dimmed. How does one go 
about this?

Thanks,

Doug

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Re: OCR on the mac

[Doug Lawlor]

I would love to see a version of Kursweil 1000 for the Mac. I have a lot of 
stuff in Kursweil format that I'd like to access. 

Doug


Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-01-28, at 6:18 AM, "Lisa Salinger"  wrote:

> Hello,
> For what it's worth, you do have the option to save your scans to Serotek's
> server, but you can also save them to your computer.
> 
> Lisa
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:14 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: OCR on the mac
> 
> Yes; but I don't like the fact that everything you scan gets uploaded to
> seretek's server.
> 
> On Jan 26, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
>> Docuscan plus works very well.
>> On Jan 26, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I want to find a good scanning solution for my mac.
>>> I will purchase a flat bed scanner, but not sure which one you all
> recommend, and what software you think would be best.
>>> I thought of using DocuScan  but the need to have an internet connection
> all the time is a bit off putting for me.
>>> Thoughts and suggestions are appreciated!
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Right clicking links on a web page?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
I am trying to do the equivalent of right clicking the mouse on a link so I can 
save the pdf files that these links point to. My problem is I can't seem to get 
the menu with the save as option in it. I get a menu for the current page I am 
viewing. How does one save a file from a web page? The page in question is: 
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/visa.asp

Thanks in advance, 

Doug

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Re: Right clicking links on a web page?

[Doug Lawlor]

When I press VO-shift-m I get the context menu for the page, not  the current 
link I am focused on. 
Doug

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On 2012-01-29, at 12:28 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Bringing up the context menu isn't even necessary.  Just press option enter 
> when on the link.  But if you do want the context menu anyway, press VO shift 
> M.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> 
>> Hello list:
>> I am trying to do the equivalent of right clicking the mouse on a link so I 
>> can save the pdf files that these links point to. My problem is I can't seem 
>> to get the menu with the save as option in it. I get a menu for the current 
>> page I am viewing. How does one save a file from a web page? The page in 
>> question is: 
>> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/visa.asp
>> 
>> Thanks in advance, 
>> 
>> Doug
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Re: sim card on iphone 3gs?

[Doug Lawlor]

The sim card hole is next to the head phone jack  a push pin will work if you 
get it positioned just right. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-02-09, at 2:04 AM, Hank Smith  wrote:

> Hello where exactly is the hole to put a paper clip, to get the sim tray to 
> pop out on the 3gs?
> is it buy the power switch on the top of the phone?
> also would a push pin work, or does it have to be a paper clip or apple 
> removal tool?
> Hank
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Printing an invoice from the Apple store?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello List:
How do I go about printing an invoice from the Apple store? I log into my 
account and successfully see my orders. I click on the Print Invoice link for 
an order but nothing happens. I get no dialogs or anything. Actually what I 
want to do is to generate a PDF of the invoice from the Printer dialog. I have 
no printer attached to this machine.  I know how to generate the PDF but just 
can't get a dialog coming up when I activate the Print Invoice link. 

Thanks in advance, 

Doug

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Question about Radium

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
I just recently purchased Radium from the mac app store. This is an app that 
has access to a number of radio stations and gives you full keyboard control 
over the app from any other application. I really like this app accept for one 
thing. 
I can't see a full list of my favourite stations. I can only see some but not 
the rest of them. I tried turning Trackpad Commander on and doing a 3 finger 
swipe up to scroll page by page through the list but no luck so far. Does 
anyone else have this app and have they figured out a way to see all of the 
stations in their favourites list?  

Thanks in advance, 

Doug

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Stopping Mail from speaking subject and preview window of every message being download

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello List, 
This is really driving me nuts! I need to stop mail speaking every message 
being downloaded. Can this be done? I took a look through the view menu but 
can't find anything that would be related to this. Would something have to be 
changed in the notifications window? 

Thanks, 

Doug

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Re: statusbar in 10.9.2 mavericks

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello all:
I'm getting the same problem here as well. I've got two third party items in my 
status bar. The first is the dropbox icon and the second is the icon for 
1Password Mini. If I Vo+Space on Dropbox I get the window opening sound and 
hear the word "app" which  is then cut off. The window closes too fast for the 
screen reader to render the message. If I press Vo+Space on the 1Password Mini 
icon I get the 1Password dialog where I can enter my master password. So it 
seems like the problem is with the DropBox application and not with the OS. 

Doug

On Apr 9, 2014, at 5:28 PM, William Windels  wrote:

> Hello Chris and others,
> 
> Idd, it has worked for me also since 10.8 but no, it seems not to work 
> anymore:
> I  use Dropbox v2.6.25 and I do  the following:
> vo+m+m : to goeie to the statusbar;
> vo+arrow to goeie  to the dropbox-icon;
> There I press vo+space or dubbel tab on the trackpad or vo+enter;
> (the cursors are following each other).
> 
> I receive the message from voiceover when I tab on the (dropbox) icon:
> "the keyboard-focus can't be placed on the window; (it's translated from 
> dutch so it's something like that).
> 
> Someone else knows this problem?
> 
> Thx for any responses,
> 
> William Windels
> 
> 
> Op 9-apr.-2014, om 22:09 heeft Chris Apple boy  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Third party icons are accessible from 10.8 so why you can't activate them is 
>> a mystery to me.
>> 
>> Regards Chris
>> 
>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>> 
>> On 09/04/2014 20:53, William Windels wrote:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> Since some time, I believe since mavericks or perhaps also in 10.8, the 
>>> icons like dropbox , Skype, and other tirdparty apps can't be activated 
>>> with vo+space. But, the icons that are part of the system: time-machine, 
>>> dat/time, user-options... are perfectly accessible with vo+space.
>>> What could be wrong and perhaps: what could be the solution or workaround?
>>> 
>>> Any hints are very welcome
>>> 
>>> kind regards,
>>> William Windels
>>> 
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Re: statusbar in 10.9.2 mavericks

[Doug Lawlor]

If I issue the following commands this is what happens. 
Press Vo+m+m to focus on the status menu. 
Vo+arrow to the DropBox icon. 
Press Vo+Command+f5 to move the mouse pointer to the VoiceOver cursor. 
Double tap the track pad.
VoiceOver gives me the following message:

"Dropbox 2.4.11
Up to date menu extra Unable to focus keyboard in window: (null)"

Doug

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> For a while, it was necessary to option click on the dropbox icon to get 
> access to the preferences from the context menu. other app icons also require 
> some creative clicking to access them. I don't know the why or wherefore of 
> all this, I just know to try various clicks on the icons that aren't 
> cooperating like control click, option click and so forth.
> 
> On Apr 9, 2014, at 3:53 PM, William Windels  wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Since some time, I believe since mavericks or perhaps also in 10.8, the 
>> icons like dropbox , Skype, and other tirdparty apps can't be activated with 
>> vo+space. But, the icons that are part of the system: time-machine, 
>> dat/time, user-options... are perfectly accessible with vo+space.
>> What could be wrong and perhaps: what could be the solution or workaround?
>> 
>> Any hints are very welcome
>> 
>> kind regards,
>> William Windels
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Re: Accessible Packet Sniffers?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Alex,
I don't know of a Mac specific utility, but I used to use a console utility 
called "mmap" quite a few years ago when I was doing a lot of experimenting 
with Linux. I don't have the links handy but do a search for a package called 
home-brew. It is a packaging system for Mac OS that will allow you to install a 
huge list of unix utilities that Apple does not provide. Nmap may be among the 
list of packages available through Homebrew. You can find Homebrew through 
Github. 

Doug

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> Hi all,
> I'm trying to determine why my Windows VM drops its internet every so often, 
> plus I'm just a geek. Does anyone know of an accessible packet sniffer app 
> for the Mac, preferably one that does *not* require the terminal? I wouldn't 
> mind one that can also provide details (connected devices, rates, all that) 
> on my home network as well. Does such an animal exist? Thanks!
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Re: Scanners revisited

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello everyone,
What I don't like about Docuscan plus is that it requires the image to be sent 
to Serotek's servers for processing. If scans could be processed locally this 
would be a good solution.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 28, 2014, at 1:11 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> It's not that bad actualy.  A finger pressed on the edge of the page to keep 
> the paper flat does the trick.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
>> On 2014-04-28, at 12:55 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I wondered how people were using a camera like the Hovercam when wanting to 
>> read anything other than a flat piece of paper? How do people resolve the 
>> issue of pages of a book not lying flat? Surely, even letters that have 
>> folds in them can be problematic?
>> 
>> Your thoughts and experiences would be appreciated as I have purchased a T5 
>> and just haven't had the time to experiment.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Gena
>>> On 26 Apr 2014, at 16:23, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,  Eyepal is a good solution.  Not a great solution, but a good one.  I 
>>> haven't tested fine reader pro, but if it works with the hovercam T5V then 
>>> that would be even better.  Docuscan plus and t5v is also a good 
>>> combination.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
 On 2014-04-26, at 10:31 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
 
 Okay, wondering if there has been any improvements with scanners and oct 
 for the mac. The last time I checked was 3 or 4 years ago. Eye-pal looked 
 promising, but I need a solution soon as I don't own a windows machine and 
 would prefer privacy for reading my own mail:).
 
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Re: keyboard question

[Doug Lawlor]

What version of Mac OS are you running? How old is your iMac? 

Doug

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> On May 2, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
> wrote:
> 
> At  an office supply store near me.  It's called Beatty's Basics.
> Any ideas as to my question?
> Cait
> 
>> On May 2, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
>> 
>> Wheir did you get the keyboard from?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I just bought an ergonomic keyboard that's supposed to work with my i mac.  
>>> the tech guy tried it out on his mac at the store and it worked.
>>> 
>>> when I got it home and plugged it into my machine, my machine acted like 
>>> nothing was plugged into it at all.
>>> 
>>> I restareted my mac and stil l nothing.
>>> 
>>> I tried all the usb ports and still nothing.
>>> 
>>> We tried plugging the keyboard into my husband's mac and got the keyboard 
>>> assistant, asking us to help identify the new keyboard.
>>> 
>>> My mac has no problems with my mac keyboard.
>>> 
>>> All my other usb devices work fine in all the ports and so does my mac 
>>> keyboard.
>>> 
>>> what could be causing this, and more importantly, what can I do to fix this?
>>> 
>>> would a clean install fix this?
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> Caitlyn
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Re: UEB on the I phone.

[Doug Lawlor]

Speaking of you EB, does anybody know where I can find a description of all of 
the UEB character set?
Thanks in advance,
Doug

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> On May 6, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> UEB is the default table as I set it up myself when I connected my Focus 40 
> Blue.
> 
>> On 6 May 2014, at 03:46 pm, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Kawal,
>> 
>> this may seem like an obvious point, but you may have your Braille table set 
>> not to use uEB. Go into settings, accessibility, VO, Braille and review your 
>> settings. Make sure your Braille table is set to UeB. 
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Slow down; you’ll get there faster.
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2014, at 1:59 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
 From: Kawal Gucukoglu 
 Date: 6 May 2014 09:58:16 am BST
 To: "applebrai...@googlegroups.com" 
 Subject: UEB on the I phone.
 Reply-To: applebrai...@googlegroups.com
 
 Morning.
 
 I am trying to write UEB using my Braille display with the I phone. I have 
 been trained to write Ueb as I am a transcriber but for instance, when I 
 try and write a round bracket, which is dot 4 GH sign it will not work. 
 This is with contractions on. if I turn contractions off, then I have to 
 type the of sign and the with sign to make it work. So does anyone know 
 why dot 4 GH or dot 4 AR will not work?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: good o c r for mac

[Doug Lawlor]

D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
Thanks,
Doug

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> On May 4, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
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> I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa discount too.  
> It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% discount you get it for 
> $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a couple days ago and it's already made 
> my life easier.
> 
> 
>> On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph  wrote:
>> 
>> hi list
>> 
>> can anyone recommend voiceover friendly o c r to use with my hp scanner on 
>> my iMac?
>> 
>> thank you in advance
>> 
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Re: keyboard question

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Cait, 
This all sounds very strange. I have a late 2009 white Macbook and when I plug 
inan external keyboard I get the setup assistant here. Your keyboard may be the 
problem. Have you tried a different keyboard on your iMac ? What happens then? 

Doug


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> Hi Doug,
> My i mac is a 2010 imac, i7, 16 g of ram, if that makes any difference.  I'm 
> running mavericks, 10.9.2 or whatever the latest incarnation is at the moment.
> 
> I have tried everything I can think of to get this blasted keyboard to work!
> 
> I read an an article yesterday teling how to go into the user library and get 
> rid of a particular plist file, which I did, but that only helped somewhat.  
> The file was com.apple.hitoolbox.  After I got rid of that and rebooted, some 
> keys were recognized, but not as what they were supposed to do.  For example, 
> command tab would move right, like the right arrow.
> 
> Just as an aside, I did plug the keyboard into my new mac air that I just got 
> for Christmas and got the keyboard assistant.  AFter it claimed that the 
> keyboard was recognized and said I could use the keyboard, again, the 
> keyboard wasn't working as expected.  vo right arrow was acting like enter, 
> for example.
> 
> Perhaps this microsoft keyboard is just wanky or something!
> I sure wish it would work, because it's comfy to type on..  But it's not 
> worth the hassle  unless I can figure out something relatively soon..
> Thanks for any help!
> Cait
> 
>> On May 3, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>> 
>> What version of Mac OS are you running? How old is your iMac? 
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> At  an office supply store near me.  It's called Beatty's Basics.
>>> Any ideas as to my question?
>>> Cait
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Wheir did you get the keyboard from?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 2, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I just bought an ergonomic keyboard that's supposed to work with my i 
>>>>> mac.  the tech guy tried it out on his mac at the store and it worked.
>>>>> 
>>>>> when I got it home and plugged it into my machine, my machine acted like 
>>>>> nothing was plugged into it at all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I restareted my mac and stil l nothing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tried all the usb ports and still nothing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We tried plugging the keyboard into my husband's mac and got the keyboard 
>>>>> assistant, asking us to help identify the new keyboard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My mac has no problems with my mac keyboard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All my other usb devices work fine in all the ports and so does my mac 
>>>>> keyboard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> what could be causing this, and more importantly, what can I do to fix 
>>>>> this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> would a clean install fix this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Caitlyn
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Re: good o c r for mac

[Doug Lawlor]

F hi Ann,
Thanks very much for this information. I may look into getting this after all. 
Now like another poster has posted on this list I need a program that can allow 
me to bookmark files as well.
Thanks,


Doug

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> On May 7, 2014, at 1:49 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Doug,
> 
> Here is the list of formats for FineReader Pro.
> 
> PDF, ePub, Word, FB2, Excel, Image, PowerPoint Presentation, HTML, ODT, CSV, 
> TXT, and RTF.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 7 May 2014, at 01:16, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>> 
>> D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa discount too. 
>>>  It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% discount you get it for 
>>> $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a couple days ago and it's already 
>>> made my life easier.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> hi list
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>>>> can anyone recommend voiceover friendly o c r to use with my hp scanner on 
>>>> my iMac?
>>>> 
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Can anyone tell me why I can't access a URL on this page?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
I am trying to figure out why I can't access a URL contained in the text "View 
full job posting" on the following page. When I am using VoiceOver I get the 
text some like: "View full job posting dimmed" When I do a Vo+space on this 
text I get an indication that I'm in a group. When I interact with this group I 
get another "View full job posting" inside this group. I tried routing the 
mouse with Vo+command+f5 and clicking it with Vo+Shift+Space. Still no joy. 

Anyway, here is the URL. I'm running the latest updates to Mavericks. 
http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/jobposting.do?page=3&searchstring=kingston&d=50&action=prox&d=50&sort=D&id=13480437&source=searchresults

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Square payment system

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello everybody:
I'm just wondering if anybody has used the square payment system? As I 
understand it the credit card reader plugs into the headphone jack of the 
device. How can one access what's going on on the screen then?

Thanks,
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Re: Square payment system

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With this system, does the purchaser enter the card information or does the 
seller do it?? I think I will contact Square to find out more information about 
it. 
Thanks all, 
Doug 

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> On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Rebecca Blaevoet 
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> 
> Hi Doug,
> You can also use the Square payment system by entering credit card numbers 
> manually, but the transaction fees are a little higher. I think it may be the 
> only option as you naturally need headphones in the headphone jack when 
> entering sensitive information like that. Good question.
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>> Hello everybody:
>> I'm just wondering if anybody has used the square payment system? As I 
>> understand it the credit card reader plugs into the headphone jack of the 
>> device. How can one access what's going on on the screen then?
>> 
>> Thanks,
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Re: using voiceover in terminal?

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I would like to know the the same thing as well. I find when you are using the 
terminal output from commands sometimes does not get spoken. 

Doug

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> HI all,
> 
> Are there any particular settings that you should use with voiceover so that 
> working in terminal is more practical?  I need to work with the command line, 
> change some settings in some text files in my raspberry Pi, so any help you 
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Re: using voiceover in terminal?

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Did you try a sudo make instead of just make?

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> Hi!
> If you have a braille display you could install brltty.
> Though i tried that but had no luck since i couldn't do any make commands.
> /A
>> 17 jul 2014 kl. 18:28 skrev Brandon A. Olivares :
>> 
>> I’ve used vim. It is not perfect either, but it is quite usable.
>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can't say, I've only ever issued commands. I have never used Nano, Pico, 
>>> Emacs, or any other command line programs, except FTP, which works as 
>>> expected. Even that, though, is command-based and is no kind of text editor 
>>> or other interactive program.
>>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Justin Mann  wrote:
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>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>> 
>>>> So do the same things apply to using things like nano in terminal?
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> First, be sure to interact with the text input area. Then, use vo-up and 
>>>>> vo-down to review output, and regular up and down to navigate commands. 
>>>>> It isn't perfect, but interacting makes it a lot better.
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like to know the the same thing as well. I find when you are 
>>>>>> using the terminal output from commands sometimes does not get spoken. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Justin Mann  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> HI all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are there any particular settings that you should use with voiceover so 
>>>>>>> that working in terminal is more practical?  I need to work with the 
>>>>>>> command line, change some settings in some text files in my raspberry 
>>>>>>> Pi, so any help you can give would be appreciated,
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Justin
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Re: another mail client?

[Doug Lawlor]

I remember using mutt back in the early 2000s under linux and loved it. I could 
zip through tuns of mail by just using key commands and the action would just 
happen. I can’t find anything today that can match mutt and the speakup console 
screen reader for mail processing. 

Doug

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Re: Questions about programs

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Hi Rena,


Notes is the app used for taking quick notes. These notes can then be synced 
across your Macs and any IOS device you have. 
Maps will display apple Maps on your mac.
Keynote is a presentation program something like Microsoft PowerPoint. 

Doug

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iPhone 5 screen will not lock

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi all,

I have an iPhone 5 and the screen will not lock. Pressing the lock button will 
take a screen shot. It almost seems like the home button is getting activated 
some how. Restoring the phone from a backup will fix it for about half a day 
and then the whole thing starts again. 
Has anyone seen this before and how did they fix it?

Thanks, 

Doug

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Re: viewing full message details?

[Doug Lawlor]

I wish there was a way of doing Thisb in iOS as well but I can't find a way of 
doing this. Anybody know if this is possible in iOS? 

Doug

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> On Oct 14, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> That works, thanks. I also re-discovered cmd-shift-h, which shows full 
> information if you interact with the message headers group of an open email.
>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 2:32 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>> Here's how.
>> 
>> 1.  Open the message.
>> 
>> 2.  Press open the view menu.
>> 
>> 3.  Now, from here, go to the message submenu.
>> 
>> Want an even faster way?  Then just press Option+comand+U.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
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>>> Hi all,
>>> In a program like Outlook, I can view a message's properties, then details, 
>>> to see things like the full route it took, the return path, and so on. I 
>>> cannot find a way to do this in Mail, though. I know I've done it before, I 
>>> just can't find the option in the menus. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
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Re: problems type2phone on mavericks with iphone 4 with ios7

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> On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:41 PM, Helena Fehr I can 
> get type to phone working but I can't get control keys to pass to the phony 
> for some reason. Running 10.9 and latest type to phone. 
> 
> Dougwrote:
> 
> Wow! You too? The thing is I can't even get my Type2phone thing to work at 
> all. I can do as much as go home and lock my phone with it, and that's it, 
> and I had this problem with the old OS already too for awhile; it worked 
> great at first, but then it wouldn't work, and now mavericks for sure doesn't 
> work with mine at least, except to lock or unlock the phone (press the 
> powerButton), or the home button. Nothing else works, no typing, no moving 
> around, nothing. What's up with that? I know I had the latest update too, so 
> that's not the problem, at least not if it was doing this on Mountain Lion 
> already.
> 
> God Bless!!!
>Helena
> 
> May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of 
> you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace.
> (Numbers 6;24)
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> In Jesus' Name.
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Re: using voiceover in terminal?

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Have you agreed to the Xcode license? To do this do the following:
>From a terminal prompt type "xcodebuild -license" and press enter. The unix 
>'more' command will display the Xcode license. Usin the space bar will scrole 
>through this screen by screen. 
Press the "q" key to quit this and type "agree" at the next prompt that 
appears. You now have agreed to the license. See if you get a difference in 
your make output after you try this. I found this out after I was trying to get 
rails running here and things were not configuring as I expected. 

Doug
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> Hi!
> Yes.
> I certainly did.
> /A
> 20 jul 2014 kl. 00:25 skrev Doug Lawlor :
> 
>> Did you try a sudo make instead of just make?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> If you have a braille display you could install brltty.
>>> Though i tried that but had no luck since i couldn't do any make commands.
>>> /A
>>> 17 jul 2014 kl. 18:28 skrev Brandon A. Olivares :
>>> 
>>>> I've used vim. It is not perfect either, but it is quite usable.
>>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I can't say, I've only ever issued commands. I have never used Nano, 
>>>>> Pico, Emacs, or any other command line programs, except FTP, which works 
>>>>> as expected. Even that, though, is command-based and is no kind of text 
>>>>> editor or other interactive program.
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Justin Mann  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So do the same things apply to using things like nano in terminal?
>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> First, be sure to interact with the text input area. Then, use vo-up 
>>>>>>> and vo-down to review output, and regular up and down to navigate 
>>>>>>> commands. It isn't perfect, but interacting makes it a lot better.
>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I would like to know the the same thing as well. I find when you are 
>>>>>>>> using the terminal output from commands sometimes does not get spoken. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Justin Mann  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> HI all,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Are there any particular settings that you should use with voiceover 
>>>>>>>>> so that working in terminal is more practical?  I need to work with 
>>>>>>>>> the command line, change some settings in some text files in my 
>>>>>>>>> raspberry Pi, so any help you can give would be appreciated,
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Justin
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Re: Express VPN -

[Doug Lawlor]

I am using it on the iPhone now. The only thing I am seeing is that open vpn is 
not supported. I contacted them through there live chat and asked them if I 
could use open vpn connect. They told me that this is not compatible with there 
setup. 

Doug 

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> 
> Just thought I'd write back to say I have been using it on the Mac and it is 
> very good.  Extremely fast is the main thing I can think of to differentiate 
> it.  I have not yet tried it on the iPhone but will do so soon.
> 
> On Jul 25, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I’m reading about VPNs this morning.  I’m familiar with Tunnel Bear & Cloak, 
> however the below service was ranked the best for 2014.
> 
> Have any MacVisionary or viPhone users used Express VPN?  How did you find 
> ease of use/accessibility?  How was your connection speed?
> 
> Do you recommend a different service?
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
> 
> https://www.express-vpn.com/order 
> 
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Anybody know how to turn off the sound's in voice over in iOS?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list,
The subject says it all. I am using a braille display and I would like the 
phone to be completely silent when using the braille display. How do I go about 
turning off the sounds that seem to emanate from the phone while using the 
braille display?

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Re: Anybody know how to turn off the sound's in voice over in iOS?

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I figured it out. Here is how to do it. 
Go into settings, choose general, accessibility, VoiceOver. 
Swipe down to the roter settings and double tap. 
There is a sounds option you can enable that will show up in the router which 
will allow you to turn the sounds on and off. 

Doug 

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> Hello list,
> The subject says it all. I am using a braille display and I would like the 
> phone to be completely silent when using the braille display. How do I go 
> about turning off the sounds that seem to emanate from the phone while using 
> the braille display?
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Re: Anybody know how to turn off the sound's in voice over in iOS?

[Doug Lawlor]

That turns off speech but not the sounds. 

Doug

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>> Hello list,
>> The subject says it all. I am using a braille display and I would like the 
>> phone to be completely silent when using the braille display. How do I go 
>> about turning off the sounds that seem to emanate from the phone while using 
>> the braille display?
>> 
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Re: Accessible website for booking flights

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I've always used my travel agent. I've always found that using a travel agent 
is the best when you want to make sure that assistance is requested properly. 

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> I use Orbitz. 
> 
> 
> Jamie T
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>> Hi all,
>> What websites or apps do people find most helpful for booking airline 
>> flights? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>> Thank you,
>> Laura
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App store in iOs 8?

[Doug Lawlor]

Anybody else having problems using the app store in iOs 8? When I bring it up 
the only thing I see are the tabs on the bottom of the screen and nothing else. 

Doug


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Re: App store in iOs 8?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello,
I did that and the App Store is now working.



Doug
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> On Sep 18, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> It appears to be working normally for me.  I was able to check for updates 
> and ensure that they were applied anyway.  Maybe you could close it in the 
> App Chooser then re-open it to see if that makes any difference.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>> 
>> Anybody else having problems using the app store in iOs 8? When I bring it 
>> up the only thing I see are the tabs on the bottom of the screen and nothing 
>> else. 
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
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Re: anyone know about problems with iBooks in IOS 8?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Donna, 
Have you tried going into the app swicher, closing iBooks with a 3 finger swipe 
up, pressing home to get back to the home screen, then opening iBooks again? I 
was having similar problems with the app store here and doing the above fixed 
the problem. 



DougSent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> Huh, that's strange.  I didn't see it till I upgraded.  Check out my message 
> from this morning, hopefully it will help fix the problem for you.
> Best,
> Donna
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I have this issue allready in ios 7.
>> SO i am not sure whats going on.
>> /A
>>> 19 sep 2014 kl. 00:31 skrev Donna Goodin :
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if anyone knows anything about bugs with the latest iBooks?  
>>> I upgraded to IOS 8 last night, and installed the update to iBooks.  Now, I 
>>> can see the publisher's blurb for my books when I click on the Purchased 
>>> Tab, but that's all I can see.  When I switch to my books, the list is 
>>> empty, despite the fact that I have several downloaded.  It doesn't matter 
>>> whether I select My Bookshelf, Titles, or Authors, I see nothing.  I had my 
>>> sighted husband look at my phone, and he confirmed that the books are not 
>>> showing up on the screen at all.  Anyone else had this issue?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello everyone, 
I'm just wondering if anyone has tried using the KNFB reader with a battery 
something like the mophy juice pack attached? Is there a difference in using 
it? 

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> In 1990 Vocational Rehab and an associated State organization for 
> unemployment purchased the Kurzweil personal reader for me.  That purchase 
> and the technology opened a door to employment for me. Since that experience, 
> I would recommend anything developed by Kurzweil.  It worked then and it 
> works now. 
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> 
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>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Krister,
>> 
>> I'm not a developer, so make no evaluation whatsoever of how much work they 
>> had to do to add the tilt guidance, field of view, and the anti-skewing 
>> stuff.  I still think the price was too high, but as Kevin wrote on Friday, 
>> it just works.  I know some people put a lot of time into learning to use 
>> Prizmo, and I understand that they got good results.  I barely have enough 
>> time to breathe each day.  I get up in the morning and am busy till I go to 
>> bed at night.  I don't have that kind of time to spend practicing to use an 
>> app. So yes, I do think the price is high, but I also know that it meets my 
>> needs without requiring a ton of practice time.  So I bought it, and I 
>> recommend it to others.
>> 
>> As to your question what if someone else built those same features into a 
>> mainstream app, I think that'd be fabulous.  But right now that hasn't 
>> happened, so I'm going with the KNFB reader.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On Sep 21, 2014, at 3:58 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, Prizmo has some kind of guidance similar to the KNFB reader but it 
>>> seems to be unreliable at times and i don't think it has the tilt sensor. 
>>> What if that was built in? And another question on the same topic: The way 
>>> we all, me included skeptical as i am, rave about the KNFB reader, how much 
>>> do we really know about what the folks have done to make it this good? What 
>>> if it was only the tilt sensor and the field view report and the rest was 
>>> an ordinary OCR app? We make it sound like this app is the worlds 8th 
>>> miracle, what if it ain't? What if some mainstream developer added at leas 
>>> the guidance that Prizmo already has and a tilt sensor and it became just 
>>> as good?
>>> Sorry for sounding skeptical, i'm just wondering about things.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
 20 sep 2014 kl. 18:41 skrev Sabahattin Gucukoglu :
 
 Well, I can certainly agree that assistive isn't always equal to 
 overpriced, and indeed I have owned the flatbed and now own the camera 
 edition Sara, both of which have worked quite well, and with mainstream 
 OCR software and flatbed scanners, really quite excellently.  Anything to 
 lower the cost of investment is always useful though.  I am hoping to 
 standardise on something that is accurate and realistically caters to my 
 needs, and this app looks very promising going forward.  However I do 
 worry that the cost would not be justified if I found another app.  I have 
 had all the mentioned apps so far--TextDetective, TextGrabber, and 
 Prizmo--and have not even been able to choose among these three yet, 
 though Prizmo is now the one on my phone.  Can anyone suggest ways in 
 which any of these three apps might somehow be improved to match the speed 
 and accuracy of KNFB as it now stands?  A difficult question, I know, but 
 I'm hoping someone knows something I don't.  This is mostly an exercise in 
 discovery, of course, since I now own all four of them.
 
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Re: All the new features in Lion

[Doug Lawlor]

I think for some reason Apple has all of this sourted out in some way. I 
am of the firm belief once we start using this new cloud stuff we will 
wonder how we lived without it. I for one am looking forward to all of 
this! Bring it on Apple.


Cool stuff!
Doug

On 6/8/2011 8:34 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:

I think there will be some apethy about this, as a lot of people who download 
large torrent files won't care.

I can't help but wonder if this technology is coming before people are actually 
ready psychologicly for the change to this cloud computing stuff. Sometimes 
perfectly great stuff flops because although the concepts are great, they come 
before people are willing or able to except them.
On 2011-06-07, at 2:00 PM, Shen wrote:


4gb is such a relative term. Who knows exactly what the size of the
download will be. It could be 4.2 GB.
If you are not 1 of those people who has to have it the day it is
released, I'm almost willing to bet that there will be enough noise
made that Apple will have to put it on a DVD for people to purchase.
Just give it a little time.
I don't think people are ready for such a large download. Imagine, if
you have a standard T1 speed on your DSL connection. Assuming the
download speed is steady at the maximum throughput, it will take close
to 8 hours to download 4GB.





On 6/7/11, Brandon Misch  wrote:

i read somewhere about it being 4gb.

On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:


Dude, are you serious? I would much rather buy it!

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i think the size of the download will be 4gb.

On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote:


Hi all, I think it's going to be a problem for a lot of people that
the lion isn't availible on disc, one reason would be as you mentioned
hard drive chrashes etc and the other is that you would have to
download it and I saw something about a 4 GB download. Everybody
doesn't have fast uncapped internet. Who knows if it comes out and
people start complaining apple will maybe release it on disc. I'm glad
that it's only $29 though...

Donna Goodin wrote:

Yeah,  there's a fair amount about VO in the list of new features that

Seren forwarded yesterday.

Donna

On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:49 AM, Zachary Kline wrote:


Hi Ricardo,
They do mention VO on both the Lion and iOS 5 sites, as a matter of

fact.

Best,
Zack.
On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:


I wish they would at least put out some notes about voiceover when
they

put out the features list for  the new OS.  I don't expect Apple to devote
time to Voiceover in the keynote of course but, I don't think it should be
much trouble to mention new VO features on the site.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
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On Jun 6, 2011, at 10:13 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:


this all sounds great. good thing voiceover has some new features.

On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Søren Jensen wrote:


Hi.

You can already see the new features in Lion at the following link:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
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Re: Buying a mac computer

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Wendy,
You can get all of the details fro Apple but here are a few key 
differences that come to the top of my head.
MacBook pro comes in three sizes, 13, 15, and 17 inch screens. Contains 
a built-in DVD drive, SD card reader, Can take up to 8 GB ram I believe, 
Nice large hard drive, USB, Firewire, and I believe the new Thunderbolt 
port, Nice range of processors, and I'm sure more features I can't 
remember.
The MacBook Air comes in two sizes, 11 and 13 inch screens. Contains no 
DVD drive although an external drive can be purchased if one wishes. 
Contains two USB ports, either a 1.4 or 1.6 Intel duel core processor, 
Can install up to four GB ram, Comes with either a 64 or 128 GB solid 
state flash disk (nice and fast for bootup!) instead of a hard disk, 
Does not contain a Firewire port, and I'm sure more features than I can 
remember at the moment.
The question you should ask yourself is What do you want the system to 
do for you? If you just want to do word processing, web browsing, 
reading mail, looking at pictures, and the like I personally would like 
to have a Macbook Air. If you want to do a lot of video and audio 
editing such as multi-track audio go for the MacBook Pro.
I love my white MacBook that I purchased in February 2010. I'm sure I 
will get many years to come out of the thing. If I was buying my Mac now 
I would have chosen the MacBook Air because it is very lite and does not 
contain a hard disk and DVD drive to add to the weight. When the Mac 
Os10 Lion operating system is released we will have more cool VoiceOver 
features to play with. I for one am very much looking forward to Single 
Letter navigation in web pages. Good luck in purchasing your new Mac. 
Feel free to send more questions to the list so we can help you further 
with your new purchase.


Doug

On 6/9/2011 10:49 AM, Wendy Alling wrote:

Hello all,

I'm new to the list and am seriously considering taking the plunge 
into the mac world.  Can anyone on list give me some recommendations 
on purchasing a mac?  What are the differences in MacBook Pro and 
MacBook Air?


Thanks,
Wendy

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Recording a video of a running application?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
I am looking for an accessible tool to record a video on the mac. I need 
something in particular that will allow me to record a video of a running 
application. 

Thanks, 

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Task manager for the mac?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello:
I am looking for a task manager for the mac. I found something on the app store 
called "Things". Has anyone used this?

Thanks, 

Doug

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Re: Recording a video of a running application?

[Doug Lawlor]

I found something on the app store called Screen Recorder for $8.99. I haven't 
tried this out yet. I may give it a try later today. 

Doug

On 2011-06-12, at 8:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm not 100% sure but, I think you can do this with quicktime.
> 
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> 
> On Jun 12, 2011, at 4:16 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
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>> Hello list:
>> I am looking for an accessible tool to record a video on the mac. I need 
>> something in particular that will allow me to record a video of a running 
>> application. 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> Doug
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Re: Recording a video of a running application?

[Doug Lawlor]

and I thought that QuickTime was just a player. I learn something new everyday!

Thanks

Doug

On 2011-06-12, at 9:33 AM, Ashley Cox wrote:

> quick time will do this, simply use the screen recording option in the file 
> menu.
> ash
> 
> On 12/06/2011 12:10, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>> I found something on the app store called Screen Recorder for $8.99. I 
>> haven't tried this out yet. I may give it a try later today.
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> On 2011-06-12, at 8:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm not 100% sure but, I think you can do this with quicktime.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2011, at 4:16 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello list:
>>>> I am looking for an accessible tool to record a video on the mac. I need 
>>>> something in particular that will allow me to record a video of a running 
>>>> application.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Doug
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Re: Task manager for the mac?

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I'm not talking about a process manager, but something like Active ToDo List 
for Windows. 

Doug

On 2011-06-12, at 11:45 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> The mac already has one, it's called activity monitor, and it's in the 
> utilities folder.
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>> Hello:
>> I am looking for a task manager for the mac. I found something on the app 
>> store called "Things". Has anyone used this?
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
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Re: Voiceover at the log on screen?

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I am looking at my system here now and don't see a start VO at logon check box. 
I'm running all the latest updates here as well. I went into the system 
preferences, selected accounts, selected my account which is the admin account, 
unlocked system preferences, but still don't see any start VO at LogOn. 
Anyone know why this may be?

Doug

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> Hello,
> Under system prefs, go to accounts.
> Then unlock account prefs.
> Now interact with accounts. select the admin account and stop interacting.
> VO to the right till you get to the checkbox for starting VO at login and 
> check it. Then exit accounts.
> Now when you login for the first time after a reboot or restart, you will be 
> presented with VO running and the login screen.
> HTH!
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Jun 11, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> Hey guies.  A friend of mine who's down here visiting is wanting to use my 
>> macbook a bit with voiceover, seeing he, too, is blind.  I am able to hit 
>> command+F5 at the log on screen to start voiceover, but how do I enable it 
>> so voiceover will automatically come up at the log on screen.  I knew how to 
>> do this in Tiger, but that was ages ago!  
>> 
>> Am running all the latest updates to Snow Leopard 10.6.7.  I've looked under 
>> system prefs/universal access, and also have looked in the Voiceover 
>> Utility, and furthermore have even looked in system prefs/accounts.  The 
>> only thing I've not done is to look thoroughly around the actual log on 
>> screen after manually starting voiceover, nor looked in the menu bar of that 
>> screen.  I'm thinking that might be the next option I'm gonna take, unless 
>> you all know something else.
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: empty app windows?

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Hi Klifton,
If you have an app that is non responsive you can force quit it by doing a 
command-option-escape. This will bring up a window with a table of running 
applications. Just interact with that table, highlight the non responsive app, 
stop interacting with the table and navigate right until you land on the force 
quit button.  After you press this button you will get a message like the 
following. I'm using Mail as an example here. "Do you want to force Mail to 
quit?" Navigate to another force quit button and press that. Your non 
responsive application is now ended. 

Hope this helps,
Doug

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> Okay, what does it mean when I go in to a app and it says for encstence, 
> facetab has no windows?  It won't open it for me, and it won't close the 
> window that says it's empty.  So how would I open it back up or refresh it so 
> I can use it again?Î
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Windows VM slowing to a crawl

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello List:
I am noticing on my system that my Windows VM under Fusion tends to slow to a 
crawl after using it for a while. I have it set up to use one processor core 
and 2 GB of ram. I am running Windows 7/64. What is the best version of Windows 
7 to run under Fusion? I've heard some people say that 32-Bit Windows runs 
better for some reason. Any thoughts?

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Re: labeling buttons etc.

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Just find the control you want to label and do a VO-/ on it. You get an edit 
box prompting you for the name of the label. 

Doug

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> Is there a way in VO on Mac to label buttons and such?  I bought a new 
> all-in-one printer and the scanning software has many unlabelled buttons. 
> 
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Moving row by row on a table in a web page?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello again list:
Is there an easy way to move row by row in a table on a web page? I cam move by 
what seems like column by column using the normal left and right VoiceOver 
commands but I can't find any commands that will let me move row by row. Does 
anyone know an easy way to do this?

Thanks, 

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Re: Moving row by row on a table in a web page?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Zack and Colin,
I am using Quicknav and I did not try using the VO+up and down arrow keys. I'll 
try those. 

Thanks, 



Doug


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> Hi There!
> Are you using quick nav!
> I've found on a table using qn I still have to hold the vo keys and then the 
> up and down arrows!
> Of course you have to do this without quick nav!
> But if your not using qn then I'm stuck!
> Colin
> On 15 Jun 2011, at 21:09, Zachary Kline wrote:
> 
>> Hi DOug,
>> Forgive me if I'm missing something, but have you tried vo-up and down 
>> arrow?  These keys always work for me in moving between rows in a table, on 
>> a web page or otherwise.
>> Best,
>> Zack.
>> On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello again list:
>>> Is there an easy way to move row by row in a table on a web page? I cam 
>>> move by what seems like column by column using the normal left and right 
>>> VoiceOver commands but I can't find any commands that will let me move row 
>>> by row. Does anyone know an easy way to do this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks, 
>>> 
>>> Doug
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Re: Moving row by row on a table in a web page?

[Doug Lawlor]

VO/up and down arrows do work. I was using Quicknav and never thought of using 
them.

Doug

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> Cantcha just use vo+up and down arrows?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On Jun 15, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> 
>> Hello again list:
>> Is there an easy way to move row by row in a table on a web page? I cam move 
>> by what seems like column by column using the normal left and right 
>> VoiceOver commands but I can't find any commands that will let me move row 
>> by row. Does anyone know an easy way to do this?
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> Doug
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Selecting machines in VMWare Fusion's library?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
How does one go about selecting a VM from Fusion's virtual machine library? I 
interact with the table of machines, move the VO cursor to the machine I want, 
and then stop interacting with the table but the first machine in the library 
is still selected. I then do the same thing but route the mouse cursor to the 
VO cursor with VO+Command+f5 then use VO+shift+space to click the mouse. I 
still end up with the first machine selected. How does one select a machine 
different from the first machine?

Thanks,

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Re: HELP!!! My Mac won't turn on!

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Has VoiceOver gotten turned off by mistake? Try turning the Mac on, wait for a 
minute or 2 for the system to fully boot, then try turning VO back on with 
command F5. Has the system volume gotten turned down or muted somehow? Try 
pressing f10 or if you have the function keys set to perform software 
functions, press fn+f10 to see if the system is muted. You should hear the 
volume sound when the system is unmuted. Is system volume turned down? F11 
turns volume down and F12 turns it up. 

Just some things to check. 

Doug


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> Hi,
> 
> The subject line says it all. I've got the charger plugged in and get no 
> sound. It was fully charged yesterday.
> Any ideas?
> 
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Re: HELP!!! My Mac won't turn on!

[Doug Lawlor]

I think you may have to give someone a call at Apple Support to see what they 
have to say. 


Doug


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> Hi Doug,
> 
> Thank you for all of your suggestions. The problem is that the Mac will NOT 
> boot up at all.
> 
> Ezzie
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Doug Lawlor  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:41:21 -0230
> Subject: Re: HELP!!! My Mac won't turn on!
> 
> Has VoiceOver gotten turned off by mistake? Try turning the Mac on, wait for 
> a minute or 2 for the system to fully boot, then try turning VO back on with 
> command F5. Has the system volume gotten turned down or muted somehow? Try 
> pressing f10 or if you have the function keys set to perform software 
> functions, press fn+f10 to see if the system is muted. You should hear the 
> volume sound when the system is unmuted. Is system volume turned down? F11 
> turns volume down and F12 turns it up.
> 
> Just some things to check.
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> On 2011-06-18, at 4:41 PM, Ezzie Buenito wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The subject line says it all. I've got the charger plugged in and get no 
> sound. It was fully charged yesterday.
> Any ideas?
> 
> Ezzie Bueno
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Dealing with the standard save dialog from applications?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello People:
Just a quick question about working with the save dialog presented by 
applications. I have the disclosure box checked. I use the side bar to select 
what device or place I want to save the file. I then use the file list to 
narrow it down and select a directory where I want the file to be saved. The 
problem is when I find the directory using the VoiceOver cursor I can't seem to 
open the directory in the file list that I want to use to save the file in. How 
does one go about doing this?

Thanks, 

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Re: Dealing with the standard save dialog from applications?

[Doug Lawlor]

Strange, I can't seem to get this to work here at all. Here is what I just did:
1. In a mail message I pressed Command+shift+s to open the save as dialog. This 
brought up a standard dialog. 
2. Pressed shift+command+h which gave me my home directory.
3. Navigated to the file list and interacted with the list. 
4. Arrowed down to the documents directory. 
5. turned off quicknav and then tried pressing the right arrow key to expand 
the folder. Nothing happened. I pressed the enter key and the folder opened. I 
then navigated to the save button and pressed it. The dialog  stayed on the 
screen. This is the strangest thing.

Doug

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> Confusing as it is, turning off Quick Nav and using the Right Arrow to expand 
> that folder seems to work.
> On Jun 20, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> 
>> Hello People:
>> Just a quick question about working with the save dialog presented by 
>> applications. I have the disclosure box checked. I use the side bar to 
>> select what device or place I want to save the file. I then use the file 
>> list to narrow it down and select a directory where I want the file to be 
>> saved. The problem is when I find the directory using the VoiceOver cursor I 
>> can't seem to open the directory in the file list that I want to use to save 
>> the file in. How does one go about doing this?
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> Doug
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Re: Dealing with the standard save dialog from applications?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Anne,
Thanks for that tip! I've been trying for the past week to figure out why this 
dialog was not working as expected for me. 
cmd-3 fixed it. 

Thanks, 

Doug

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> Hello Doug,
> 
> The problem you're having is because you are not in Column view. Just press 
> Cmd-3 while in the dialogue box and all will be well.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On Jun 20, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> 
>> Strange, I can't seem to get this to work here at all. Here is what I just 
>> did:
>> 1. In a mail message I pressed Command+shift+s to open the save as dialog. 
>> This brought up a standard dialog. 
>> 2. Pressed shift+command+h which gave me my home directory.
>> 3. Navigated to the file list and interacted with the list. 
>> 4. Arrowed down to the documents directory. 
>> 5. turned off quicknav and then tried pressing the right arrow key to expand 
>> the folder. Nothing happened. I pressed the enter key and the folder opened. 
>> I then navigated to the save button and pressed it. The dialog  stayed on 
>> the screen. This is the strangest thing.
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> On 2011-06-20, at 7:40 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:
>> 
>>> Confusing as it is, turning off Quick Nav and using the Right Arrow to 
>>> expand that folder seems to work.
>>> On Jun 20, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello People:
>>>> Just a quick question about working with the save dialog presented by 
>>>> applications. I have the disclosure box checked. I use the side bar to 
>>>> select what device or place I want to save the file. I then use the file 
>>>> list to narrow it down and select a directory where I want the file to be 
>>>> saved. The problem is when I find the directory using the VoiceOver cursor 
>>>> I can't seem to open the directory in the file list that I want to use to 
>>>> save the file in. How does one go about doing this?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, 
>>>> 
>>>> Doug
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Re: internet

[Doug Lawlor]

I hope they fix this in Lion. Really really annoying.

Doug

On 2011-06-20, at 11:08 PM, Ezzie Buenito wrote:

> I'm not sure why it does it. It's really annoying though.
> Another thing you can try is to turn off VO and turn it back on.
> 
> Ezzie
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Craig J Dunlop  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:25:37 -0500
> Subject: internet
> 
> when changing pages in safari voiceover will some times say safari busy then 
> safari ready. as soon as I hit a key it then says safari busy. if I do the 
> command r to reload the page things work like it should. any Ideas?
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Re: removing usb-discks when going in standby

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I'd be curious why you would have to do this? Doesn't the disk properly 
initialize when the computer is turned back on in the morning? My mac seems to 
do all things properly here when going into any type of power save mode. 

Doug

On 2011-06-24, at 11:25 AM, William Windels wrote:

> Hello,
> Because of powersaving, I turn off the electricity during the night from my 
> computer after closing the screen (going in to standby).
> Since there is a backupdisk attached to my macbook, it's not properly removed 
> automatically when I close the screen.
> 
> I haven't seen any option in the energy section in system preferences so:
> Is there a script, workflow, procedure to remove the external discs 
> automatically 
> when going in to standby?
> 
> Thanx alot for your hints,
> 
> best regards,
> William 
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Simple reminder app?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
Does anyone know of a simple reminder app that does something like the 
following:
1. launch the app and a screen pops up asking you for the text of the reminder, 
time you want it to go off, and a check box to have it repeat so many times per 
day?

Thanks, 

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Re: Simple reminder app?

[Doug Lawlor]

I think that is for the iPhone and iPad. I am looking for something for the mac.

On 2011-06-26, at 2:28 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> There is something called forgetful. It does what you want. You can input 
> audio notes, you can input written text, or even a short video containing 
> your reminder. Set the time and it becomes pending, meaning that it shows in 
> the pending tab. When it is due, in other words when the date and time that 
> you once set is reached, the alarm goes off, and you hear the note if you ask 
> for it. Moreover, you can then shove the reminder ahead into the future, to 
> handle it then. Forgetful. It's in the app store.
> - Original Message - From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 3:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Simple reminder app?
> 
> 
>> Hi:
>> iCal will work for what you want.
>> On Jun 24, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello list:
>>> Does anyone know of a simple reminder app that does something like the 
>>> following:
>>> 1. launch the app and a screen pops up asking you for the text of the 
>>> reminder, time you want it to go off, and a check box to have it repeat so 
>>> many times per day?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Doug
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Re: Idisk

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Craig,
In the finder do the following:
Press command-comma to open the preferences window.
Navigate to the toolbar at the top of the window, interact with it , and select 
sidebar, and press that button. 
In this window you get a list of devices, shared locations, places, and 
searches for the past day, week, and I believe month. In the devices section 
you want to find the iDisk check box and uncheck it. This problem should now go 
away. 

Doug

On 2011-06-26, at 3:53 PM, Craig J Dunlop wrote:

> when using itunes on my macbook I am having a hard time. when adding songs.
> after hitting command o and then trying to brows to the folder sometimes a 
> dialog box comes up wanting a username and password for Idisk. I don't have 
> one that I know of and it won't let me cancel ore quit Am  I missing 
> something?
> thanks
> 
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Re: removing usb-discks when going in standby

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi William,
Can you describe the process you use to put your computer into standby? I 
really can't replicate this happening here and I've tried a couple of ways. 
The first thing I did is to put the computer to sleep by closing the screen. 
The computer went into it's power saving mode and when I opened the screen and 
pressed a key the computer came back up and the USB disk was mounted as before. 
The second thing I tried was putting the computer to sleep by pressing 
command-option-eject. The computer powered down and when I pressed a key the 
system comes back up as before with my USB disk mounted. 
The third thing I did was go into Preferences and look for any settings that 
may effect how the computer either goes to sleep or shuts down. The only thing 
I found is the energy saver tab where there are options that control when and 
if the computer goes to sleep. I can't find anything in the preferences that 
talks about going into an actual standby mode, just sleep modes. I'm truly at a 
loss here why this is happening to you. Describe how you put your system to 
sleep and maybe we can shed some light on the situation. 

Doug

On 2011-06-27, at 8:28 PM, William Windels wrote:

> Hello Doug,
> 
> When I put off the electricity after my macbook is gone in standby , with the 
> screen closed, the external usb-hd seems to be removed it self from the os.
> And, because, it's not done on the normal way, the system says that the disc 
> isn't properly unmounted.
> 
> best regards,
> William 
> Op 24-jun-2011, om 19:18 heeft Doug Lawlor het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> I'd be curious why you would have to do this? Doesn't the disk properly 
>> initialize when the computer is turned back on in the morning? My mac seems 
>> to do all things properly here when going into any type of power save mode. 
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> On 2011-06-24, at 11:25 AM, William Windels wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Because of powersaving, I turn off the electricity during the night from my 
>>> computer after closing the screen (going in to standby).
>>> Since there is a backupdisk attached to my macbook, it's not properly 
>>> removed automatically when I close the screen.
>>> 
>>> I haven't seen any option in the energy section in system preferences so:
>>> Is there a script, workflow, procedure to remove the external discs 
>>> automatically 
>>> when going in to standby?
>>> 
>>> Thanx alot for your hints,
>>> 
>>> best regards,
>>> William 
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Re: new Syrinx 2.4.3 and password issues

[Doug Lawlor]

Twitter has authorized the app fine here. I always find it better to paste the 
password into password fields rather than hand typing it. 

Doug

On 2011-07-01, at 1:09 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:

> Hi folks.  Is anyone having issues with Syrinx 2.4.3, the just-released 
> update, in which the password won't go into the field correctly, causing 
> Twitter to issue a CAPTCHA challenge?  When I upgraded, it signed onto the 
> web to authorize the new version.  When I tried to type my password in the 
> field, the number of key clicks was wrong, as if some keystrokes weren't 
> recognized.  Then, after so many attempts, Twitter.com locked me out and 
> issued a CAPTCHA.  It had an audio component, but my hearing loss made it 
> impossible for me to get the right words in the box.  So I dug the old copy 
> of Syrinx outta the trash and swapped it, and now I'm signed in again, though 
> how long that'll last...  
> 
> Has anyone else encountered a password box in which some keystrokes weren't 
> recognized or didn't produce the click of the secure text input?  Should I 
> assume that, even if I don't hear a click, the character is there? how can I 
> get Twitter to unlock me? :) First day of the month, and I have so many 
> questions already.
> 
> 
> 
> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
> • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
> • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> • My home page:
> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Re: Quick To Flash 2.6 and Audible Samples

[Doug Lawlor]

Hi Robert:
when you have Safari open just do a VO-m to bring up the menu, right arrow once 
to get on the Safari menu, arrow down until you see click to flash, right arrow 
to open the sub menu then you can access the preferences. I must admit I'm not 
having great success with this app either. I never tried listening to Audible 
samples with it though. 

Doug

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> Hi All,
> 
> Is it still possible to use Quick to Flash 2.6 to listen to audible samples? 
> If so, how does one access the settings for the quick to flash pluggin with 
> VoiceOver?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Robert Carter
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Re: Quick To Flash 2.6 and Audible Samples

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Hi Robert, 
If you go to the audible site and bring up a book page does it appear then? I 
just noticed that it doesn't appear in the Safari menu unless there is flash on 
the page. I did not realize this before. 

Doug

On 2011-07-01, at 4:08 PM, Robert Carter wrote:

> Hi Doug,
> 
> Quick to Flash is not in my Safari menu. The plugg-in is installed and 
> running. Does anybody know why it isn't in the menu?
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> On Jul 1, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> 
>> Hi Robert:
>> when you have Safari open just do a VO-m to bring up the menu, right arrow 
>> once to get on the Safari menu, arrow down until you see click to flash, 
>> right arrow to open the sub menu then you can access the preferences. I must 
>> admit I'm not having great success with this app either. I never tried 
>> listening to Audible samples with it though. 
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> On 2011-07-01, at 2:50 PM, Robert Carter wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Is it still possible to use Quick to Flash 2.6 to listen to audible 
>>> samples? If so, how does one access the settings for the quick to flash 
>>> pluggin with VoiceOver?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
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Importing burned audio cds into iTunes? Where do they go?

[Doug Lawlor]

Hello list:
Last evening a friend gave me a cd that was burned on another computer. I took 
this and imported it into iTunes. Naturally iTunes could not find the names of 
the tracks. I did not see this as a problem so I went ahead and imported it. 
The problem is it is not showing up in my iTunes library. Can anyone help here? 
 

Thanks, 

Doug

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Re: Importing burned audio cds into iTunes? Where do they go?

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Thanks for the information on sorting the tracks by date. I didn't know you 
could do this before. I have found the tracks and a hole bunch of others I 
didn't know I had. I am using tagalicious to clean up the hole library.  

Doug

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> Hi Doug,
> 
> To add to what Colin said, sorting your music table by Date Added might let 
> you easily find those recently imported no-name tracks. Here's one way of 
> performing this sort"
> 1. Interact with the Sources table and select Music.
> 2. Stop interacting with the Sources table.
> 3. Press Command+J to open the View Options dialog box.
> 4. VO through this dialog box and make sure the "Date Added" checkbox is 
> checked. Press OK to close the View Options Window.
> 5. Make sure your library is showing in "List" mode. This can be check in a 
> number of ways, but pressing Command+Option+3 will set it for you.
> 6. Interact with the Music table, Navigate to a field in the "Date Added" 
> column, and press VO+Shit+\ and you should hear VO announce something like, 
> "sort column up" or "sort column down."
> 7. If you've sorted the column down you should find your most recently 
> imported tracks at the top of the list. These will hopefully be the unnamed 
> tracks you are looking for.
> 
> HTH,
> Bryan
> 
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>> Hello list:
>>> Last evening a friend gave me a cd that was burned on another computer. I 
>>> took this and imported it into iTunes. Naturally iTunes could not find the 
>>> names of the tracks. I did not see this as a problem so I went ahead and 
>>> imported it. The problem is it is not showing up in my iTunes library. Can 
>>> anyone help here?  
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Re: Is the true, or just a rhumor

[Doug Lawlor]

It would be nice if it came out today. But I suspect next week we will see 
Lion. I can hardly wait for it to come out. Looking forward to the new 
features. 

Doug

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> I have heard from several very reliable sources that today at 9 pecific time 
> is supposed to be the release of Lion.  I'm so excited, I can't wait!  Just 
> wonderring if anyone else has heard the same thing.  Wonder if this is true, 
> or just a rumor.
> 
> Chris.
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