Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

[Kevin Gibbs]

Tim and Co.

Sorry to bring this thread back up.  Tim’s suggestion works great with one 
exception.  I can move mailboxes around but I can’t distinguish how to move a 
mailbox so that it appears immediately below the point where I release the 
mouse.  Invariably, I end up putting the moved mailbox within the mailbox where 
I release the mouse.  I have enough vision to physically move a mailbox and 
place it such that a thin blue line appears, telling me to double tap and 
release the mouse.  But there must be a command that distinguishes between 
putting the moving mailbox within the destination and putting it below the 
destination.  What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Kevin

> On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:49 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> to clarify, this key combination was the original combination for dragging 
> and dropping when it was first introduced way back in Leopard or Snow 
> Leopard.  This method also required you to turn off cursor tracking and to do 
> some careful mouse routing.  The cursor tracking part of it is no longer 
> needed, and depending on your cursor syncing settings, mouse routing is not 
> always needed either.  I still do that part though as I find it often helps.  
> No, this combination and process has not been removed, it is still a part of 
> VO commands.  VO-comma and VO-period or VO-full stop for those of you across 
> the ponds, is also used for drag & drop but has lots of limitations.  The 
> VO-comma/VO-period drag & drop process seems to require items to remain 
> visible either within the VO cursor or within the visible portion of a 
> scrollable element.  This causes problems when you are attempting to drag 
> between windows, apps or items from one table to another.  This is where the 
> old fashioned method shines.  VO-cmd-shift-space toggles between mouse down 
> and mouse-up.  Yes, the combination is all those keys, 
> ctrl-option-cmd-shift-space.  It a twister combination but can be made easier 
> with VO-; to lock the VO keys, or to create a more simple combination with 
> the keyboard commander.  I have a keyboard commander shortcut set for this, 
> but usually forget to use it and just use the full key combination as I'm 
> used to doing it anyway.
> 
> There you go.  Your history lesson along with clarification.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 18, 2019, at 19:01, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>   Try using VO plus semi colon to lock the VO keys. That should help. Don't 
> forget to unlock the keys again with the same command which is a toggle.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 9/18/2019 5:41 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
>> E.T. so the syntax VO-command-shift-space literally means holding down the 
>> Control, Option, Command, Shift keys and pressing spacebar?
>> Dave Carlson
>> Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer
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Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

[Kevin Gibbs]

Hi Tim,

I actually was rearranging boxes which had mistakenly gotten placed within 
other boxes when they should have been top level On My Mac mailboxes to begin 
with.  It was a bit of a bitch having to do it visually by hand because I would 
otherwise keep dropping boxes within other boxes.  I think I’m done for now.  
But if you have any further guidance on how to avoid dropping boxes into other 
boxes, in other words, moving boxes to the top level of On My Mac, let me know. 
 

Thanks for revisiting this topic.  

Best,
Kevin

> On Feb 10, 2020, at 12:51 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Are you moving InBoxes, or other mailboxes?  For InBoxes, when you drop the 
> dragged item, it always drops below the item you are focused on.  For other 
> mailboxes, they are usually arranged alphabetically within the parent 
> folder/box.  So, unless you are moving it to a different folder, or 
> completely different mailbox location, I recommend that you don't attempt to 
> re-arrange them.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 3, 2020, at 15:45, Kevin Gibbs  <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Tim and Co.
> 
> Sorry to bring this thread back up.  Tim’s suggestion works great with one 
> exception.  I can move mailboxes around but I can’t distinguish how to move a 
> mailbox so that it appears immediately below the point where I release the 
> mouse.  Invariably, I end up putting the moved mailbox within the mailbox 
> where I release the mouse.  I have enough vision to physically move a mailbox 
> and place it such that a thin blue line appears, telling me to double tap and 
> release the mouse.  But there must be a command that distinguishes between 
> putting the moving mailbox within the destination and putting it below the 
> destination.  What am I doing wrong?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:49 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> to clarify, this key combination was the original combination for dragging 
>> and dropping when it was first introduced way back in Leopard or Snow 
>> Leopard.  This method also required you to turn off cursor tracking and to 
>> do some careful mouse routing.  The cursor tracking part of it is no longer 
>> needed, and depending on your cursor syncing settings, mouse routing is not 
>> always needed either.  I still do that part though as I find it often helps. 
>>  No, this combination and process has not been removed, it is still a part 
>> of VO commands.  VO-comma and VO-period or VO-full stop for those of you 
>> across the ponds, is also used for drag & drop but has lots of limitations.  
>> The VO-comma/VO-period drag & drop process seems to require items to remain 
>> visible either within the VO cursor or within the visible portion of a 
>> scrollable element.  This causes problems when you are attempting to drag 
>> between windows, apps or items from one table to another.  This is where the 
>> old fashioned method shines.  VO-cmd-shift-space toggles between mouse down 
>> and mouse-up.  Yes, the combination is all those keys, 
>> ctrl-option-cmd-shift-space.  It a twister combination but can be made 
>> easier with VO-; to lock the VO keys, or to create a more simple combination 
>> with the keyboard commander.  I have a keyboard commander shortcut set for 
>> this, but usually forget to use it and just use the full key combination as 
>> I'm used to doing it anyway.
>> 
>> There you go.  Your history lesson along with clarification.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Jamf Certified Associate
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Sep 18, 2019, at 19:01, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>   Try using VO plus semi colon to lock the VO keys. That should help. Don't 
>> forget to unlock the keys again with the same command which is a toggle.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 9/18/2019 5:41 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
>>> E.T. so the syntax VO-command-shift-space literally means holding down the 
>>> Control, Option, Command, Shift key

Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

[Kevin Gibbs]

Tim,

Unfortunately, a lot of my e-mail boxes, particularly my Gmail box, are Pop3.  
I’m really not comfortable changing that because we’re dealing with some 15 
years of mail and I don’t know what I’d lose.  I think I did experience 
something like you describe by moving items to the On My Mac thing and 
releasing.  If I’m right, that probably moved my given mailbox to a position in 
alphabetical order at the top level of my On My Mac thing.  

Like I said, I’m pretty much covered now and don’t expect to have to mess with 
this again.  But I think I understand what you said and it seems to check out.  

Best,
Kevin

> On Feb 10, 2020, at 3:36 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kevin,
> 
> That I can help you with.  Let's say that you have an eMail account named "My 
> iCloud".  Within this account structure, you have created mailboxes for Apple 
> Receipts, Summer Trips, Tax Info and Tech Help.  So, in the Mailboxes table, 
> you'd have the "My iCloud" InBox listed near the top of the list, and you 
> would also have an expandable item further down named "My iCloud".  This "My 
> iCloud" expandable item would contain the secondary mailboxes that we named 
> above.  Yes, if you drag Tech Help to Summer Trips, and release, then Summer 
> Trips will become a folder and the Tech Help messages will now reside inside 
> the Summer Trips folder.  Not what you wanted to do, I'm sure.  To remedy 
> this, expand the Summer Trips folder, then grab hold of the Tech Help item 
> within that folder and drag it up to the parent item called "My iCloud" and 
> release.  This will put the secondary mailbox and all its contents back to 
> the top level of the "My iCloud" account essentially putting it back to the 
> same level as Summer Trips.  I don't use the "On My Mac" item anymore as none 
> of my mail accounts use POP.
> 
> I hope that this makes sense.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 10, 2020, at 11:59, Kevin Gibbs  <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> I actually was rearranging boxes which had mistakenly gotten placed within 
> other boxes when they should have been top level On My Mac mailboxes to begin 
> with.  It was a bit of a bitch having to do it visually by hand because I 
> would otherwise keep dropping boxes within other boxes.  I think I’m done for 
> now.  But if you have any further guidance on how to avoid dropping boxes 
> into other boxes, in other words, moving boxes to the top level of On My Mac, 
> let me know.  
> 
> Thanks for revisiting this topic.  
> 
> Best,
> Kevin
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 12:51 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Are you moving InBoxes, or other mailboxes?  For InBoxes, when you drop the 
>> dragged item, it always drops below the item you are focused on.  For other 
>> mailboxes, they are usually arranged alphabetically within the parent 
>> folder/box.  So, unless you are moving it to a different folder, or 
>> completely different mailbox location, I recommend that you don't attempt to 
>> re-arrange them.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2020, at 15:45, Kevin Gibbs > <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Tim and Co.
>> 
>> Sorry to bring this thread back up.  Tim’s suggestion works great with one 
>> exception.  I can move mailboxes around but I can’t distinguish how to move 
>> a mailbox so that it appears immediately below the point where I release the 
>> mouse.  Invariably, I end up putting the moved mailbox within the mailbox 
>> where I release the mouse.  I have enough vision to physically move a 
>> mailbox and place it such that a thin blue line appears, telling me to 
>> double tap and release the mouse.  But there must be a command that 
>> distinguishes between putting the moving mailbox within the destination and 
>> putting it below the destination.  What am I doing wrong?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:49 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> to clarify, this key combination was the original combinatio

Can't see my Mac Mini on my home network even though I can see all my windows machines

[Kevin Gibbs]

I’m trying to network my Mac mini and my Windows 10 machine.  I can see the 
Windows 10 machine on my Mac but not the Mac on my Windows 10 machine.  As far 
as I know, they are both on the same wifi network.  The Mac mini is the only 
device I can’t see on the network.  How do I make it visible?

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Re: Can't see my Mac Mini on my home network even though I can see all my windows machines

[Kevin Gibbs]

I thought I had enabled sharing.  I chose enable File Sharing.  but I guess 
there's more to do that I am not catching.  My Windows machine sees all 
this stuff and all my other networkable devices like ROKU, Sonos and 
others.  but the Mac only sees my wife's printer and nothing else.  Hope 
someone else can lend a hand.


On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 2:02:56 PM UTC-6 wb...@swbell.net wrote:

> I don't have a lot of experience with this, but I think you need to go 
> into System Preferences > Sharing, and enable sharing on the Mac.
>
> - Brad -
>
> On Nov 18, 2021, at 13:04, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>
> I’m trying to network my Mac mini and my Windows 10 machine. I can see 
> the Windows 10 machine on my Mac but not the Mac on my Windows 10 machine. 
> As far as I know, they are both on the same wifi network. The Mac mini is 
> the only device I can’t see on the network. How do I make it visible?
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Re: Can't see my Mac Mini on my home network even though I can see all my windows machines

[Kevin Gibbs]

Hi Tim,

Thanks for helping out as you always do.  Unfortunately, I must be an idiot.  I 
checked the share with SMB option and I was presented with two options which 
appeared to concern which account I wanted to share with.  The options were:
Kevin L. Gibbs, my Mac Mini’s computer name is kevinlgibbs, all lower case no 
spaces.  Apparently, the computer can be seen as something called 
Kevin-Gibbs-Mac-mini.local according to Sharing.  

Anyway, after going to Options, I could choose either Kevin L. Gibbs or 
SophosEndpoint or Kevin L. Gibbs.

I chose Sophos and tried to put in the PW for my Sophos antivirus account and 
that failed.  I tried Kevin L. Gibbs and put in the PW for my Mac mini, and I 
suspect this succeeded.  At least, it didn’t give back an incorrect password 
notification.  

aNot withstanding that, my Mac is not visible on the Windows side and I don’t 
even see it as an available computer on the Mac side under Shared Devices.  I’m 
thoroughly confused.  I’m sure this is one of those “Press the Reset button, 
(Volume XII Revised Edition situations.).  but I just don’t get it.

Thanks for lending a hand.  If you have any further guidance please share.

Gratefully,
Kevin

Kevin-
> On Nov 18, 2021, at 8:05 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You’re partway there.  After enabling File Sharing, stop interacting with the 
> table and navigate to the Options button, press it.  In here you can enable 
> sharing with smb.  That should do it, although it is recommended that you 
> actually only share specific folders instead of the entire drive as smb 
> sharing is not as secure as one might like.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2021, at 18:43, Kevin Gibbs > <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I thought I had enabled sharing.  I chose enable File Sharing.  but I guess 
>> there's more to do that I am not catching.  My Windows machine sees all this 
>> stuff and all my other networkable devices like ROKU, Sonos and others.  but 
>> the Mac only sees my wife's printer and nothing else.  Hope someone else can 
>> lend a hand.
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 2:02:56 PM UTC-6 wb...@swbell.net 
>> <http://swbell.net/> wrote:
>> I don't have a lot of experience with this, but I think you need to go into 
>> System Preferences > Sharing, and enable sharing on the Mac. 
>> 
>> - Brad - 
>> 
>> On Nov 18, 2021, at 13:04, Kevin Gibbs > > wrote: 
>> 
>> I’m trying to network my Mac mini and my Windows 10 machine. I can see the 
>> Windows 10 machine on my Mac but not the Mac on my Windows 10 machine. As 
>> far as I know, they are both on the same wifi network. The Mac mini is the 
>> only device I can’t see on the network. How do I make it visible? 
>> 
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Re: Can't see my Mac Mini on my home network even though I can see all my windows machines

[Kevin Gibbs]

Tim,

I guess I’m sort of done.  I can see the Windows machine from the Mac and I can 
move files in both directions tons if I sign into the Windows machine from the 
Mac by entering the Microsoft credentials I have for the Windows machine when 
it asks me to “Connect As.”  I still can’t approach the Mac from the Windows 
machine even though I can see a whole ton of networked pEriferals on my Windows 
machine that I can’t see from the Mac, even though one of those pEriferals, my 
Sonos music system, draws content from my iTunes library stored, wait FOR it, 
on my Mac.  

NOW, MY CAPS LOCK HAS GOTTEN STUCK AND I WON’T BE ABLE TO UNDO THIS WITHOUT 
REBOOTING THE MACHINE AND I WANT TO FINISH THIS RESPONSE.  UNLESS, THERE’S 
SOMETHING OBVIOUS THAT I HAVEN’T DONE, I GUESS I’LL SETTLE FOR BEING ABLE TO 
APPROACH THIS FROM ONE SIDE BUT NOT THE OTHER, AS IT WERE.  

THANKS AGAIN. AND SORRY FOR THE ALL CAPS

BEST,
KEVIN

So, unless I’m m
> On Nov 18, 2021, at 8:05 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You’re partway there.  After enabling File Sharing, stop interacting with the 
> table and navigate to the Options button, press it.  In here you can enable 
> sharing with smb.  That should do it, although it is recommended that you 
> actually only share specific folders instead of the entire drive as smb 
> sharing is not as secure as one might like.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2021, at 18:43, Kevin Gibbs > <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I thought I had enabled sharing.  I chose enable File Sharing.  but I guess 
>> there's more to do that I am not catching.  My Windows machine sees all this 
>> stuff and all my other networkable devices like ROKU, Sonos and others.  but 
>> the Mac only sees my wife's printer and nothing else.  Hope someone else can 
>> lend a hand.
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 2:02:56 PM UTC-6 wb...@swbell.net 
>> <http://swbell.net/> wrote:
>> I don't have a lot of experience with this, but I think you need to go into 
>> System Preferences > Sharing, and enable sharing on the Mac. 
>> 
>> - Brad - 
>> 
>> On Nov 18, 2021, at 13:04, Kevin Gibbs > > wrote: 
>> 
>> I’m trying to network my Mac mini and my Windows 10 machine. I can see the 
>> Windows 10 machine on my Mac but not the Mac on my Windows 10 machine. As 
>> far as I know, they are both on the same wifi network. The Mac mini is the 
>> only device I can’t see on the network. How do I make it visible? 
>> 
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Export a network profile?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

My wife and I are about to buy new MBPs.  Before we do that, we have a lot of 
housekeeping to do.  One of the things I’ve noticed is that, while we are on 
the same wireless network at home, my wife can see more computers on her 
network than I can.  Specifically, she can see both my Windows DAW and the Mac 
mini from which I am writing this post.  I, on the other hand, can’t see her 
computer or even my Mac mini from the Windows machine.  I can only see my 
Windows machines from my Mac or Windows machine (not hers at all,) even though 
I’m sure we’re on the same wireless network with the same router and network 
PW.  

I’m wondering if I can export some network profile she has and import it so I 
can have the same visibility she does.  

If I’m completely barking up the wrong tree, please let me know.

Best,
Kevin

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Re: Export a network profile?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Tim,

yeah.  I’m in touch with the guy who built my Windows DAW.  He might know 
something.  I suppose it doesn’t really matter since I CAN access the Windows 
machine from the Mac.  So, as long as I have access in one direction and can 
push and pull, as it were, I should be fine.  It’s just frustrating when 
something seems like it should be obvious and I can’t figure it out.

One last point.  I did manage to get access to the Mac from Windows by typing:

Smb://192.168.xxx.xx.  I was initially offered a screen from where I could type 
in my credentials.  I assume that was my Mac credentials.  I thought I’d typed 
them in correctly but after two or maybe three failures, I was given a message 
that says,

You need a new app to open this smb link.  It asked me to look in the Microsoft 
Store where I found nothing.  So, I may have burned an opportunity there.  

I don’t want to log out of this machine.  Where do I find my user name?  I know 
my PW is correct.  I thought my user name was kevjazz.  It may be kevinlgibbs 
or Kevin L Gibbs where would I find out?

Thanks,
Kevin

> On Nov 22, 2021, at 2:31 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don’t believe that the Network Profiles will change any of that for you.  
> Typically, you should see similar things to her if you are both running Macs 
> with similar settings.  Seeing Macs from the Windows side is a different 
> animal.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2021, at 21:29, Kevin Gibbs > <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> My wife and I are about to buy new MBPs.  Before we do that, we have a lot 
>> of housekeeping to do.  One of the things I’ve noticed is that, while we are 
>> on the same wireless network at home, my wife can see more computers on her 
>> network than I can.  Specifically, she can see both my Windows DAW and the 
>> Mac mini from which I am writing this post.  I, on the other hand, can’t see 
>> her computer or even my Mac mini from the Windows machine.  I can only see 
>> my Windows machines from my Mac or Windows machine (not hers at all,) even 
>> though I’m sure we’re on the same wireless network with the same router and 
>> network PW.  
>> 
>> I’m wondering if I can export some network profile she has and import it so 
>> I can have the same visibility she does.  
>> 
>> If I’m completely barking up the wrong tree, please let me know.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Kevin
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Re: Export a network profile?

[Kevin Gibbs]

My user folder is kevinlgibbs, all lower case, no spaces.  That still doesn’t 
solve the problem of my seemingly locked myself out when typing in the smb 
creds from Run in the Windows machine.  No idea how to solve that one.  

Again, since I can push and pull I guess it doesn’t really matter.  It’s just 
the principle of the thing at this point.

Thanks,
Kevin

> On Nov 22, 2021, at 3:29 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You can find out a few ways.  The easiest is to open your Macintosh HD, 
> Users, then look at the folder names.  The folder name is usually your 
> username for that account.  Alternatively, go to system Preferences, Users & 
> Groups, unlock the lock, then navigate to your user.  VO-shift-m on the user 
> and choose Advanced.  The username is in there.  Be careful not to change 
> anything here though as you could mess up your login and be extremely 
> frustrated, or worse.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2021, at 14:24, Kevin Gibbs > <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Tim,
>> 
>> yeah.  I’m in touch with the guy who built my Windows DAW.  He might know 
>> something.  I suppose it doesn’t really matter since I CAN access the 
>> Windows machine from the Mac.  So, as long as I have access in one direction 
>> and can push and pull, as it were, I should be fine.  It’s just frustrating 
>> when something seems like it should be obvious and I can’t figure it out.
>> 
>> One last point.  I did manage to get access to the Mac from Windows by 
>> typing:
>> 
>> Smb://192.168.xxx.xx .  I was initially offered a 
>> screen from where I could type in my credentials.  I assume that was my Mac 
>> credentials.  I thought I’d typed them in correctly but after two or maybe 
>> three failures, I was given a message that says,
>> 
>> You need a new app to open this smb link.  It asked me to look in the 
>> Microsoft Store where I found nothing.  So, I may have burned an opportunity 
>> there.  
>> 
>> I don’t want to log out of this machine.  Where do I find my user name?  I 
>> know my PW is correct.  I thought my user name was kevjazz.  It may be 
>> kevinlgibbs or Kevin L Gibbs where would I find out?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
>>  
>>> On Nov 22, 2021, at 2:31 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I don’t believe that the Network Profiles will change any of that for you.  
>>> Typically, you should see similar things to her if you are both running 
>>> Macs with similar settings.  Seeing Macs from the Windows side is a 
>>> different animal.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 21, 2021, at 21:29, Kevin Gibbs >>> <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Guys,
>>>> 
>>>> My wife and I are about to buy new MBPs.  Before we do that, we have a lot 
>>>> of housekeeping to do.  One of the things I’ve noticed is that, while we 
>>>> are on the same wireless network at home, my wife can see more computers 
>>>> on her network than I can.  Specifically, she can see both my Windows DAW 
>>>> and the Mac mini from which I am writing this post.  I, on the other hand, 
>>>> can’t see her computer or even my Mac mini from the Windows machine.  I 
>>>> can only see my Windows machines from my Mac or Windows machine (not hers 
>>>> at all,) even though I’m sure we’re on the same wireless network with the 
>>>> same router and network PW.  
>>>> 
>>>> I’m wondering if I can export some network profile she has and import it 
>>>> so I can have the same visibility she does.  
>>>> 
>>>> If I’m completely barking up the wrong tree, please let me know.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Kevin
>>>> 
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Re: Export a network profile?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Tim,

Looks like your recipe worked.  It didn’t exactly restart the lockout.  I was 
still told I needed a new app to do SMB.  What happened was, when I restarted 
the Mac and tried to simply type in the address from Windows without SMB, I got 
the window asking for my creds.  This time, I typed in the right name and PW 
and BINGO!  I’m now functioning in two directions.  WOW!

Thanks, Brother.

Kevin

> On Nov 22, 2021, at 4:38 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sometimes, when you restart the Mac, it will reset the lockout and you can 
> start over.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2021, at 14:42, Kevin Gibbs > <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> My user folder is kevinlgibbs, all lower case, no spaces.  That still 
>> doesn’t solve the problem of my seemingly locked myself out when typing in 
>> the smb creds from Run in the Windows machine.  No idea how to solve that 
>> one.  
>> 
>> Again, since I can push and pull I guess it doesn’t really matter.  It’s 
>> just the principle of the thing at this point.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2021, at 3:29 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> You can find out a few ways.  The easiest is to open your Macintosh HD, 
>>> Users, then look at the folder names.  The folder name is usually your 
>>> username for that account.  Alternatively, go to system Preferences, Users 
>>> & Groups, unlock the lock, then navigate to your user.  VO-shift-m on the 
>>> user and choose Advanced.  The username is in there.  Be careful not to 
>>> change anything here though as you could mess up your login and be 
>>> extremely frustrated, or worse.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 22, 2021, at 14:24, Kevin Gibbs >>> <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Tim,
>>>> 
>>>> yeah.  I’m in touch with the guy who built my Windows DAW.  He might know 
>>>> something.  I suppose it doesn’t really matter since I CAN access the 
>>>> Windows machine from the Mac.  So, as long as I have access in one 
>>>> direction and can push and pull, as it were, I should be fine.  It’s just 
>>>> frustrating when something seems like it should be obvious and I can’t 
>>>> figure it out.
>>>> 
>>>> One last point.  I did manage to get access to the Mac from Windows by 
>>>> typing:
>>>> 
>>>> Smb://192.168.xxx.xx .  I was initially offered a 
>>>> screen from where I could type in my credentials.  I assume that was my 
>>>> Mac credentials.  I thought I’d typed them in correctly but after two or 
>>>> maybe three failures, I was given a message that says,
>>>> 
>>>> You need a new app to open this smb link.  It asked me to look in the 
>>>> Microsoft Store where I found nothing.  So, I may have burned an 
>>>> opportunity there.  
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t want to log out of this machine.  Where do I find my user name?  I 
>>>> know my PW is correct.  I thought my user name was kevjazz.  It may be 
>>>> kevinlgibbs or Kevin L Gibbs where would I find out?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Kevin
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 22, 2021, at 2:31 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don’t believe that the Network Profiles will change any of that for 
>>>>> you.  Typically, you should see similar things to her if you are both 
>>>>> running Macs with similar settings.  Seeing Macs from the Windows side is 
>>>>> a different animal.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later…
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>>

Need advice on best method for migrating from ancient Mac mini 2010 to brand new MBP 2021.

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

My new MBP should be arriving on Tuesday.  I’ll be replacing my 2010 Mac mini 
with this killer box.  What’s the best way to migrate all the data from one 
machine to the other.  I have TM on the Mac mini and I have a pretty decent 
wifi situation here.  The Mac mini runs High Sierra.  The new box runs 
Monterey, I presume.  I’m imagining that I should be able to get everything 
down to the new MBP by signing into iCloud with my credentials and having 
everything populate that way except for the documents folder and certain other 
apps like Sibelius, Komplete Kontrol and other Music specific apps which would 
have to be installed separately from the wireless iCloud migration.  Similarly, 
I imagine the contents of my Documents folder would have to be moved by way of 
an intermediate portable drive.  Am I on the right track or completely messing 
up?

Thanks for any guidance.  It’s been ten years since I faced this sort of thing.

Thanks,
Kevin

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Re: Need advice on best method for migrating from ancient Mac mini 2010 to brand new MBP 2021.

[Kevin Gibbs]

while I'm at it, at what point should I deauthorize my old Mac?  Before or 
after the transfer? Should I use wifi or cable?
On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 10:12:53 PM UTC-6 Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> Guys,
>
> My new MBP should be arriving on Tuesday. I’ll be replacing my 2010 Mac 
> mini with this killer box. What’s the best way to migrate all the data from 
> one machine to the other. I have TM on the Mac mini and I have a pretty 
> decent wifi situation here. The Mac mini runs High Sierra. The new box runs 
> Monterey, I presume. I’m imagining that I should be able to get everything 
> down to the new MBP by signing into iCloud with my credentials and having 
> everything populate that way except for the documents folder and certain 
> other apps like Sibelius, Komplete Kontrol and other Music specific apps 
> which would have to be installed separately from the wireless iCloud 
> migration. Similarly, I imagine the contents of my Documents folder would 
> have to be moved by way of an intermediate portable drive. Am I on the 
> right track or completely messing up?
>
> Thanks for any guidance. It’s been ten years since I faced this sort of 
> thing.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
>

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Deleted e-mails kept coming back. Why?

[Kevin Gibbs]

I have a brand new M1 MacBook Pro running OS 12.1.  I’m deleting old e-mails 
from my Gmail account in Mac Mail and finding that mails I know I deleted 
suddenly reappear.  I have a little vision and I know these things are coming 
back because I can see the screen blip quickly.  After that, if I arrow up 
through mails, I will hear subject lines of e-mails I know I deleted with dates 
to confirm.  I delete the e-mails  again and keep going through my e-mail and 
then find that the e-mails have returned yet again.  Has anyone experience 
anything like this?  

For the record, I delete e-mails by holding down command and option and 
depressing either the delete key in the Sixpack, (bottom left,) or the other 
backspace key immediately below the function keys, again while holding command 
and option so that I am in the same place in the list of e-mails.  Hope this is 
clear.  

Anyway, thinking of calling either Accessibilitty or Apple Care to see if they 
know anything.  But thought I’d ask you guys first.

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Don't hear subject lines of e-mails read when they come in on my mac

[Kevin Gibbs]

Ever since I got this new MacBook Pro, I’ve noticed that I don’t hear the 
subject lines of e-mails being read when they come in on my Mac. I hear the 
sound that indicates I have new mail.  But the sender and subject are no longer 
read they way they used to be.  Is this something I’ve managed to accidentally 
turn off?  If so, that would be cool provided I know how to turn it back on.

Thoughts?

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Why can't I hear subject lines as messages come in on my Mac?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Why should column layout matter?  It's never been checked before and I've 
always heard the first few words of a message as it comes in.  What up?

On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:47:07 PM UTC-6 wb...@swbell.net wrote:

> Go to the Menu bar > View menu, and either select or unselect the item Use 
> Column Layout, and see what that does for you.
> By default, Column Layout is not selected.
>
>
> *- Brad -*
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2022, at 16:39, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>
> Ever since I got this new MacBook Pro, I’ve noticed that I don’t hear the 
> subject lines of e-mails being read when they come in on my Mac. I hear the 
> sound that indicates I have new mail.  But the sender and subject are no 
> longer read they way they used to be.  Is this something I’ve managed to 
> accidentally turn off?  If so, that would be cool provided I know how to 
> turn it back on.
>
> Thoughts?
>
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Re: Why can't I hear subject lines as messages come in on my Mac?

[Kevin Gibbs]

The accessibility guys suggested dI change some settings in Notifications 
and Focus under mail.  Changed notification to Alerts.  let's see if this 
works.
On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 11:22:42 PM UTC-6 Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> Why should column layout matter?  It's never been checked before and I've 
> always heard the first few words of a message as it comes in.  What up?
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:47:07 PM UTC-6 wb...@swbell.net wrote:
>
>> Go to the Menu bar > View menu, and either select or unselect the item 
>> Use Column Layout, and see what that does for you.
>> By default, Column Layout is not selected.
>>
>>
>> *- Brad -*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 16:39, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>
>> Ever since I got this new MacBook Pro, I’ve noticed that I don’t hear the 
>> subject lines of e-mails being read when they come in on my Mac. I hear the 
>> sound that indicates I have new mail.  But the sender and subject are no 
>> longer read they way they used to be.  Is this something I’ve managed to 
>> accidentally turn off?  If so, that would be cool provided I know how to 
>> turn it back on.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
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Can't sync iBooks on iPhone 7 running iOS 14.4.x updated today with 2010 Mac mini running Sierra 10.12.6

[Kevin Gibbs]

guys,

I posted this on viPhone but thought I’d leave it here, too.  

I’m seldom here.  Have a bit of a head scratcher.  I’m trying to sync my iBooks 
library between my iPhone/iPad and my ancient 2010 Mac mini running Sierra 
10.12.6.  when I examined iBooks on my iPhone, I was told I had to update my 
Mac Mini to OS 10.12.  About this Mac says I’m running 10.12.6.  So, I figure 
I’m good.  But there are sample books on my iPhone that don’t appear on my Mac. 
 These books are potentially expensive and I would prefer to buy them once I 
know they’ll show up on all devices.  

I had initially signed in on one Apple ID and now may wish to try signing in on 
another on my Mac.  But don’t know how to sign out on my Mac to sign back in.  
Have no interest in signing all the way out of iCloud in Preferences.  That 
would suck.

If you could, please write back and copy me at kevj...@gmail.com 
 to make sure I see this since I almost never visit 
Mac visionaries.

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How to reorder columns in Numbers using VO

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I was just on the horn with Accessibility for an hour and I’m supposed to get 
another call back from them tomorrow.   But I wonder if any of you have a VO 
friendly recipe for this.  I have a spreadsheet and I want to change the order 
of columns in the table.  I have enough vision to do this visually by dragging 
and dropping with my trackpad if my nose is on the screen.  But there has to be 
a better way.  While I can get VO to highlight the column header cell, I can’t 
get VO to highlight the lettered cell immediately above the header cell.  I can 
only highlight that by tapping with my trackpad using the vision I have.

I imagine that we’re looking at something similar to the recipe for reordering 
items in an iTunes playlist or mailboxes on the left hand side in Mail, both 
processes which I’ve forgotten since I use them one every five years or so.  
Hope I’m making sense.  Thanks for any help.

Best,
Kevin
  

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Re: How to reorder columns in Numbers using VO

[Kevin Gibbs]

thanks so much.  It was a little flakey, like you said.  but it eventually 
worked and made my day.  I've copied this advice into my general Tips and 
Tricks folder.  for future reference.  thanks again.

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 7:03:01 PM UTC-5 bha...@gmail.com wrote:

> Interact with the table and jump to the headers with vo-shift-\. vo-space 
> on column reference tab and then vo-space on the column to move.
> Rout the mouse to vo and lock the mouse with vo-command-shift-space. After 
> vo says moving, move with vo-arrows and unlock the mouse with 
> vo-command-shift-space.
> Note that while this will work, it is very flaky.
> Ignore whenever vo says something is not moved. It may or may not have 
> moved. You will have to verify.
>
> > On Mar 25, 2021, at 17:08, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> > 
> > I was just on the horn with Accessibility for an hour and I’m supposed 
> to get another call back from them tomorrow. But I wonder if any of you 
> have a VO friendly recipe for this. I have a spreadsheet and I want to 
> change the order of columns in the table. I have enough vision to do this 
> visually by dragging and dropping with my trackpad if my nose is on the 
> screen. But there has to be a better way. While I can get VO to highlight 
> the column header cell, I can’t get VO to highlight the lettered cell 
> immediately above the header cell. I can only highlight that by tapping 
> with my trackpad using the vision I have.
> > 
> > I imagine that we’re looking at something similar to the recipe for 
> reordering items in an iTunes playlist or mailboxes on the left hand side 
> in Mail, both processes which I’ve forgotten since I use them one every 
> five years or so. Hope I’m making sense. Thanks for any help.
> > 
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> > Kevin
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Got notification RE passwords part of data leak. Then lost notification before memorizing accounts in question. What to do?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

While I was dealing with something else, I got a notification on my iPhone that 
seven account passwords were part of a data leak and might pose accounts to 
compromise.  I clicked on the note but then lost it before memorizing which 
accounts were involved.  I gather that dismissed or read notifications are 
gone.  Is there any way to find out which accounts need passwords changed?  I 
could only remember one by the time I got back to this.  Any help appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: Got notification RE passwords part of data leak. Then lost notification before memorizing accounts in question. What to do?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Found the answer in Apple Support Communities, I think.  
Sep 25, 2020 — Apple compares passwords that are in the Keychain app on your 
phone 
with that list, and tells you about the ones that appear both in Keychain 
and the list maintained by security teams. To see the list Apple has compiled 
go to Settings/Passwords and tap on Security Recommendations.

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 12:58:24 AM UTC-5 Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> Guys,
>
> While I was dealing with something else, I got a notification on my iPhone 
> that seven account passwords were part of a data leak and might pose 
> accounts to compromise. I clicked on the note but then lost it before 
> memorizing which accounts were involved. I gather that dismissed or read 
> notifications are gone. Is there any way to find out which accounts need 
> passwords changed? I could only remember one by the time I got back to 
> this. Any help appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
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Re: Got notification RE passwords part of data leak. Then lost notification before memorizing accounts in question. What to do?

[Kevin Gibbs]

In Safari preferences, I did notice something in the bottom left corner that 
said, “caution password used on multiple websites. “  But it was not clear to 
me whether one could isolate your passwords as shown to reflect only those 
which were used on multiple websites.  Is it possible to isolate the passwords 
that are only used on multiple websites? Or, is that what I’m looking at by 
default?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 15, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> In your iPhone, go to Settings and then Passwords, and you will find out 
> which ones are compromised. You can also do this in Safari on the Mac in the 
> preferences.
> 
> 
>> On May 15, 2021, at 00:58, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> While I was dealing with something else, I got a notification on my iPhone 
>> that seven account passwords were part of a data leak and might pose 
>> accounts to compromise.  I clicked on the note but then lost it before 
>> memorizing which accounts were involved.  I gather that dismissed or read 
>> notifications are gone.  Is there any way to find out which accounts need 
>> passwords changed?  I could only remember one by the time I got back to 
>> this.  Any help appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
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Re: Got notification RE passwords part of data leak. Then lost notification before memorizing accounts in question. What to do?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Disregard my last message. I now understand that passwords which appear on 
multiple sites have an additional column to the right with an indication 
concerning this.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 15, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
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> In your iPhone, go to Settings and then Passwords, and you will find out 
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> preferences.
> 
> 
>> On May 15, 2021, at 00:58, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> While I was dealing with something else, I got a notification on my iPhone 
>> that seven account passwords were part of a data leak and might pose 
>> accounts to compromise.  I clicked on the note but then lost it before 
>> memorizing which accounts were involved.  I gather that dismissed or read 
>> notifications are gone.  Is there any way to find out which accounts need 
>> passwords changed?  I could only remember one by the time I got back to 
>> this.  Any help appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
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Caps Lock randomly gets stuck on Mac running High Siera 10.12.6

[Kevin Gibbs]

Yeah.  I know my Mac is from the Stone Age.  Please put that aside.  Every so 
often, when I’m typing on my 2010 Mac mini, the Caps Lock will suddenly turn on 
without my having depressed it.  Nothing I do will disengage it until I turn 
off and reboot the machine.  No idea why this happens nor how I can correct it 
other than rebooting.As far as I know, this only happens when VO is 
running.. I can use the machine without speech if I must.  But I’ve never had 
this happen while VO was turned off that I know of.  Any ideas?  

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Re: Got notification RE passwords part of data leak. Then lost notification before memorizing accounts in question. What to do?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Hi Donna,
I did notice that difference between my iPhone and my Mac. I was just wondering 
if I could find the same information the same way on both machines. I 
understand the difference now.  too bad there isn’t a way you can type in a 
password and find out how many and which websites use that same password. Is 
there a way to do that?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2021, at 4:14 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi Kevin,
> 
> There are two different notifications that you can see. One just says 
> passwords used on multiple sites. the other actually says that that password 
> has been part of a data leak and should be changed immediately.  Though I 
> don't fully understand how Apple determines this, if I have a password in the 
> latter group, I make sure to change it.  Also, I find this a little easier to 
> sort out on the iPhone than on the Mac, because the two groups are separated 
> out.
> HTH,
> Donna
> 
>> On May 16, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> 
>> Disregard my last message. I now understand that passwords which appear on 
>> multiple sites have an additional column to the right with an indication 
>> concerning this.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On May 15, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In your iPhone, go to Settings and then Passwords, and you will find out 
>>> which ones are compromised. You can also do this in Safari on the Mac in 
>>> the preferences.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 15, 2021, at 00:58, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Guys,
>>>> 
>>>> While I was dealing with something else, I got a notification on my iPhone 
>>>> that seven account passwords were part of a data leak and might pose 
>>>> accounts to compromise.  I clicked on the note but then lost it before 
>>>> memorizing which accounts were involved.  I gather that dismissed or read 
>>>> notifications are gone.  Is there any way to find out which accounts need 
>>>> passwords changed?  I could only remember one by the time I got back to 
>>>> this.  Any help appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Kevin
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Re: Got notification RE passwords part of data leak. Then lost notification before memorizing accounts in question. What to do?

[Kevin Gibbs]

I didn’t think so.  I also think that my iPhone7 is kept more up-to-date than 
my 2010 Mac mini running 10.12.6. Would that be the case?  how often can either 
machine expect to be updated regarding the viability of passwords?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2021, at 4:22 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Not that I know of.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On May 16, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> I did notice that difference between my iPhone and my Mac. I was just 
>> wondering if I could find the same information the same way on both 
>> machines. I understand the difference now.  too bad there isn’t a way you 
>> can type in a password and find out how many and which websites use that 
>> same password. Is there a way to do that?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On May 16, 2021, at 4:14 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kevin,
>>> 
>>> There are two different notifications that you can see. One just says 
>>> passwords used on multiple sites. the other actually says that that 
>>> password has been part of a data leak and should be changed immediately.  
>>> Though I don't fully understand how Apple determines this, if I have a 
>>> password in the latter group, I make sure to change it.  Also, I find this 
>>> a little easier to sort out on the iPhone than on the Mac, because the two 
>>> groups are separated out.
>>> HTH,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>> On May 16, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Disregard my last message. I now understand that passwords which appear on 
>>>> multiple sites have an additional column to the right with an indication 
>>>> concerning this.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 15, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In your iPhone, go to Settings and then Passwords, and you will find out 
>>>>> which ones are compromised. You can also do this in Safari on the Mac in 
>>>>> the preferences.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 15, 2021, at 00:58, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> While I was dealing with something else, I got a notification on my 
>>>>>> iPhone that seven account passwords were part of a data leak and might 
>>>>>> pose accounts to compromise.  I clicked on the note but then lost it 
>>>>>> before memorizing which accounts were involved.  I gather that dismissed 
>>>>>> or read notifications are gone.  Is there any way to find out which 
>>>>>> accounts need passwords changed?  I could only remember one by the time 
>>>>>> I got back to this.  Any help appreciated.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Kevin
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Re: Got notification RE passwords part of data leak. Then lost notification before memorizing accounts in question. What to do?

[Kevin Gibbs]

I only noticed because my iPhone shows a password as being part of the data 
leak and my Mac mini, 2010, does not show any compromise for that same account 
and password. What to do?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 16, 2021, at 4:26 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Huh.  That's interesting. My iPhone 12 mini and my MBP running Big Sur seem 
> to be in sync, so I'm really not sure.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 16, 2021, at 4:25 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> 
>> I didn’t think so.  I also think that my iPhone7 is kept more up-to-date 
>> than my 2010 Mac mini running 10.12.6. Would that be the case?  how often 
>> can either machine expect to be updated regarding the viability of passwords?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On May 16, 2021, at 4:22 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not that I know of.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>> On May 16, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>> I did notice that difference between my iPhone and my Mac. I was just 
>>>> wondering if I could find the same information the same way on both 
>>>> machines. I understand the difference now.  too bad there isn’t a way you 
>>>> can type in a password and find out how many and which websites use that 
>>>> same password. Is there a way to do that?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 16, 2021, at 4:14 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Kevin,
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are two different notifications that you can see. One just says 
>>>>> passwords used on multiple sites. the other actually says that that 
>>>>> password has been part of a data leak and should be changed immediately.  
>>>>> Though I don't fully understand how Apple determines this, if I have a 
>>>>> password in the latter group, I make sure to change it.  Also, I find 
>>>>> this a little easier to sort out on the iPhone than on the Mac, because 
>>>>> the two groups are separated out.
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 16, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Disregard my last message. I now understand that passwords which appear 
>>>>>> on multiple sites have an additional column to the right with an 
>>>>>> indication concerning this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 15, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Herbie Allen  
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In your iPhone, go to Settings and then Passwords, and you will find 
>>>>>>> out which ones are compromised. You can also do this in Safari on the 
>>>>>>> Mac in the preferences.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 15, 2021, at 00:58, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> While I was dealing with something else, I got a notification on my 
>>>>>>>> iPhone that seven account passwords were part of a data leak and might 
>>>>>>>> pose accounts to compromise.  I clicked on the note but then lost it 
>>>>>>>> before memorizing which accounts were involved.  I gather that 
>>>>>>>> dismissed or read notifications are gone.  Is there any way to find 
>>>>>>>> out which accounts need passwords changed?  I could only remember one 
>>>>>>>> by the time I got back to this.  Any help appreciated.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Kevin
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How to delete an e-mail address from dropdown in To field of Mac Mail

[Kevin Gibbs]

I just received a message from a friend who said her old e-mail address was 
hacked and to use a new one.  As a test, I typed her name into the To field of 
Mac Mail on my Mac mini running 10.12.6.  the new e-mail address appeared as 
the first option.  But the old address was immediately below it.  I know I can 
listen to the e-mail address being read to make sure I choose the correct one.  
But I would prefer to hose the dead e-mail from my options.  There are several 
such cases where dead or misspelled e-mail address appear as options and I’d 
like to remove them from this dropdown but have no idea how or whether it can 
be done.  

Ideas?

Thanks,
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Re: How to delete an e-mail address from dropdown in To field of Mac Mail

[Kevin Gibbs]

Figured out how to delete previous recipient.  Unfortunately, that deletion 
doesn't work if you ever sent an e-mail to the address you want gone.  too 
bad.
On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 12:01:23 AM UTC-5 Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> I just received a message from a friend who said her old e-mail address 
> was hacked and to use a new one. As a test, I typed her name into the To 
> field of Mac Mail on my Mac mini running 10.12.6. the new e-mail address 
> appeared as the first option. But the old address was immediately below it. 
> I know I can listen to the e-mail address being read to make sure I choose 
> the correct one. But I would prefer to hose the dead e-mail from my 
> options. There are several such cases where dead or misspelled e-mail 
> address appear as options and I’d like to remove them from this dropdown 
> but have no idea how or whether it can be done. 
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> kevin
>
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Re: How to delete an e-mail address from dropdown in To field of Mac Mail

[Kevin Gibbs]

Brad,

Did all that.  It worked to a point.  The old address is deleted from that 
window.  However, when I go about typing a new e-mail, I see both the new and 
old e-mail addresses because I have several old e-mails which were sent to that 
old address before it was hacked and changed.  So, I guess I just have to be 
aware.  I have tested this successfully with a misspelled e-mail address where 
I don’t have any e-mails sent there to.  In that case, all worked perfectly.  
So, just have to be careful.  Drag.

> On May 19, 2021, at 12:23 AM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> You can delete your friend’s old email address from the Previous Recipients 
> list.
> To access this list, do the following:
> 1.  While in the Mac’s mail app, go to the Menu Bar > Windows, and arrow down 
> to Previous Recipients, and press Enter.
> 2.  Once in the Previous Recipients dialogue, VoiceOver focus should be in a 
> Search edit field, where you can type the first few letters of your friend’s 
> old email address.
> 3.  Now, press the Tab key, or VO + Right Arrow to the list of Search 
> results, where you should find your friend’s old email address, and maybe 
> other search results.
> 4.  When you have located the address you wish to remove from the list, press 
> the Delete key.
> 
> That’s it.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 19, 2021, at 00:01, Kevin Gibbs  <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I just received a message from a friend who said her old e-mail address was 
> hacked and to use a new one.  As a test, I typed her name into the To field 
> of Mac Mail on my Mac mini running 10.12.6.  the new e-mail address appeared 
> as the first option.  But the old address was immediately below it.  I know I 
> can listen to the e-mail address being read to make sure I choose the correct 
> one.  But I would prefer to hose the dead e-mail from my options.  There are 
> several such cases where dead or misspelled e-mail address appear as options 
> and I’d like to remove them from this dropdown but have no idea how or 
> whether it can be done.  
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> kevin
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Any thoughts on the future of MacBook Pros in light of this WWDC?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

I hope this note finds all of you staying safe and healthy and doing well.  
I'm’ writing because my wife and I just finished reading the highlights from 
the WWDC and were disappointed to see nothing about a new MacBook Pro to go 
with the upcoming Mac OS Monterey.  Considering that a new iMac came out just 
recently, and further considering that it’s been a while since the 16 inch 
MacBook Pro got any love, I’m wondering if any of you have any opinions on how 
long the current 16 inch machine will remain the flagship of the MacBook line.  

Personally, I can’t imagine that sighted users won’t want state of the art 
hardware in a 16 inch form factor because they believe in screens and so on.  
If I’m wrong,… oh well.  

While we don’t necessarily think in visual terms about stuff like this.  This 
list comprises a group of the most Mac savvy people I know and I’d be 
interested if you’d be willing to share your opinions on what the future holds 
for laptop hardware in Mac land.  

I should get around to saying that my wife and I haven’t upgraded our Mac 
hardware since we bought a Mac mini for me and a 27 inch iMac for her  in 2010. 
 We haven’t been able to upgrade the OS on that hardware in years, (10.12.6,) 
and we just want to avoid buying new hardware that will, itself be frozen in, 
say, one OS upgrade.  See the problem?

All of you may decide not to express an opinion on any of this.  But I’D be 
grateful for any thoughts you’d be willing to share.  

Thanks,
Kevin
  

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How can I tell which address I forwarded an e-mail to after the fact?

[Kevin Gibbs]

My wife has three different e-mail addresses.  Last night, I forwarded an 
e-mail to her and now I can’t remember the address to which I forwarded it.  I 
look in the Sent file on my Mac running 10.12.6.  but all I see is her name.   
When I right-click, I see two e-mail addresses which are both greyed out.  How 
an I tell which one I sent the mail to without asking her?

Thanks,
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Does anyone use the Dropbox desktop app on BAC? Having problems.

[Kevin Gibbs]

Does anyone use the dropbox desktop app on Mac or Windows? I’m having real 
trouble uploading or moving files using this app on either platform. I end up 
having to do all sorts of gymnastics barely to upload a file. I try to avoid 
using the website for this. Then I can use my iOS app to move the file in the 
main dropbox folder to any sub folder I want. But it seems like I shouldn’t 
have to go through that. What am I doing wrong?

If you wouldn’t mind, since I so seldom visit this list, I would be grateful if 
you would copy me on any response to kevj...@gmail.com, as I have suspended 
getting email from this list at this time.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Does anyone use the Dropbox desktop app on BAC? Having problems.

[Kevin Gibbs]

I can't get Dropbox to behave like just another folder on Mac. Can't 
add/remove files.
On Saturday, September 5, 2020 at 5:27:50 PM UTC-5 lori...@gmail.com wrote:

> I use it on Mac all the time.ask away.
>
> > On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Does anyone use the dropbox desktop app on Mac or Windows? I’m having 
> real trouble uploading or moving files using this app on either platform. I 
> end up having to do all sorts of gymnastics barely to upload a file. I try 
> to avoid using the website for this. Then I can use my iOS app to move the 
> file in the main dropbox folder to any sub folder I want. But it seems like 
> I shouldn’t have to go through that. What am I doing wrong?
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> > Kevin
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Re: Does anyone use the Dropbox desktop app on BAC? Having problems.

[Kevin Gibbs]

I eventually did get it to work.  I actually had it working and then 
accidentally moved my DB folder and had to relink my computer to my DB account. 
 All’s well now.  

Thanks,
Kevin

> On Sep 6, 2020, at 8:05 PM, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
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> Have you gone into preferences and told it to open in File Explorer?
> 
> On 9/6/20, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> I can't get Dropbox to behave like just another folder on Mac. Can't
>> add/remove files.
>> On Saturday, September 5, 2020 at 5:27:50 PM UTC-5 lori...@gmail.com wrote:
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>>> I use it on Mac all the time.ask away.
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 5, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone use the dropbox desktop app on Mac or Windows? I’m having
>>> real trouble uploading or moving files using this app on either platform.
>>> I
>>> end up having to do all sorts of gymnastics barely to upload a file. I try
>>> 
>>> to avoid using the website for this. Then I can use my iOS app to move the
>>> 
>>> file in the main dropbox folder to any sub folder I want. But it seems
>>> like
>>> I shouldn’t have to go through that. What am I doing wrong?
>>>> 
>>>> If you wouldn’t mind, since I so seldom visit this list, I would be
>>> grateful if you would copy me on any response to kev...@gmail.com, as I
>>> have suspended getting email from this list at this time.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Kevin
>>>> 
>>>> 
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How to remove a bogus e-mail from sender options on Mac running High Siera

[Kevin Gibbs]

I have a business contact named Darren, with two Rs in his name.  
Unfortunately, once I sent a note to him with only one R in his name and that 
mistake still exists if I type in a name with autocomplete in the To field of 
an e-mail.  I’d really like to remove that “memory’ from my autocomplete and 
don’t know how.  Any guidance appreciated.

Best,
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CAPS LOCK gets permanently turned on by accident and I don't know why or how to turn it back off.

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Hi all,

I’m asking about something that happens very rarely.  Every so often for 
reasons I can’t figure out, I will find that I am typing in ALL CAPS when I 
don’t want to and wasn’t aware I’d engaged it.  The only way to correct is 
appears to be to shut down my Mac mini running High Sierra and restart.  I am 
using CAPS LOCK as my VO key, not CTRL Option.  I’m not aware that I engaged 
the Caps Lock with VO Semicolon.  But when I do that, I seem to get in a VO 
menu system.  So, if anyone knows what I might have done to randomly cause CAPS 
Lock to be permanently engaged, let me know so I won’t have to turn off the 
computer and turn it back on again.  

Thanks,
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OS 14.2 won't download & Install on iPad Air 2

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My iPad tells me that a new OS is available for download.  I have it 
charged to 100%.  I download and it gets to about 93% downloaded and then 
says that an error occurred during the download.  My wife has done some 
reading and says that one of the reasons might be that there is a partial 
copy of this OS somewhere and that I should remove this before attempting 
the download again.  Pam can't find it anywhere and we don't know what to 
do.  I'm assuming that if the hardware didn't support the OS, I wouldn't be 
given the message to try downloading and installing it.  the machine works 
fine.  but I'd like to update the OS if I'm entitled to do so.  I have 
already exited iCloud and signed back in without any change to the download 
problem.  I've tried this on several different days to allow for extreme 
traffic downloading the update.  I don't think that's the problem.  Ideas?

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Re: OS 14.2 won't download & Install on iPad Air 2

[Kevin Gibbs]

Actually, I got a message from Richard Turner in viPhone  suggesting that I 
call Apple Accessibility.  No idea they’d actually answer on the weekend.  They 
couldn’t find a partial download and I had to update it by connecting it to my 
computer, which I had never done in six years.  Anyway, all’s well that ends 
well.  But I’ll keep this bit of instructions in my Tips & Tricks Folder.
Thanks,
Kevin
 
> On Nov 21, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Brad Snyder  wrot
> 
> Try the following:
> 
> Go to Settings > General > iPad Storage
> 
> Here you will find a list of applications taking up storage space on your 
> device.  The list is ranked from largest to smallest.
> If you have a partial download of an OS installer, you should find it near 
> the top of the list.
> If you do find the OS installer on the list, and want to delete it, do the 
> following:
> 1.  Select it and do a 1-finger double tap to open a properties page.
> 2.  at the bottom of the properties page, you will find a button labeled 
> “Delete App”
> 3.  Select and double tap this button to delete the item from your device.
> 
> Another thing to look at is the available storage on your device.  If you 
> don’t have enough storage space for the OS installer, the download will 
> terminate when your available storage runs out.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Nov 21, 2020, at 14:20, Kevin Gibbs  <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> My iPad tells me that a new OS is available for download.  I have it charged 
> to 100%.  I download and it gets to about 93% downloaded and then says that 
> an error occurred during the download.  My wife has done some reading and 
> says that one of the reasons might be that there is a partial copy of this OS 
> somewhere and that I should remove this before attempting the download again. 
>  Pam can't find it anywhere and we don't know what to do.  I'm assuming that 
> if the hardware didn't support the OS, I wouldn't be given the message to try 
> downloading and installing it.  the machine works fine.  but I'd like to 
> update the OS if I'm entitled to do so.  I have already exited iCloud and 
> signed back in without any change to the download problem.  I've tried this 
> on several different days to allow for extreme traffic downloading the 
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How do I go to a specific page in a Pages document?

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I’m running Pages on Mac OS 10.12.6, High Sierra.  I want to be able to go to a 
specific page in a large Pages document.  The web says I should be able to type 
CTRL Command G and type a page number.  That’s clearly wrong.  Is there a 
keyboard command to do this?

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Have an 8TB SSD on my M1 pro. Where can I get a large enough drive to function as a Time machine backup>

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Guys,

Subject says most of it.  I need a Time machine drive large enough to back up 
most, but not all, of an 8TB internal SSD.  I’ve excluded all the directories 
containing all my VST instruments as they could be redownloaded from their 
respective manufacturers.  I assume they would have to be in order to 
reauthorize most of them.  But I’m down to about 650GB on my 4TB Time machine 
drive which was a relic from my old Mac mini days.  What do you recommend for a 
backup drive designed to routinely handle probably 2TB of data comprising my 
iTunes, iPhoto and mail and document libraries?

Since I don’t routinely visit this group, could you please do me a favor and 
reply to author to make sure I see your response?

Best,
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Re: Have an 8TB SSD on my M1 pro. Where can I get a large enough drive to function as a Time machine backup>

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I should have been clearer.  I meant to ask for a quality drive large 
enough to do the job,

On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 4:23:40 PM UTC-5 ancient...@icloud.com wrote:

> Amazon is one source.
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
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> On 8/29/2022 1:49 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
> > Guys,
> > 
> > Subject says most of it. I need a Time machine drive large enough to 
> back up most, but not all, of an 8TB internal SSD. I’ve excluded all the 
> directories containing all my VST instruments as they could be redownloaded 
> from their respective manufacturers. I assume they would have to be in 
> order to reauthorize most of them. But I’m down to about 650GB on my 4TB 
> Time machine drive which was a relic from my old Mac mini days. What do you 
> recommend for a backup drive designed to routinely handle probably 2TB of 
> data comprising my iTunes, iPhoto and mail and document libraries?
> > 
> > Since I don’t routinely visit this group, could you please do me a favor 
> and reply to author to make sure I see your response?
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> > Best,
> > Kevin
> > 
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How does one compensate for PageUp and PageDown keys or Home and End keys on a MacBook Pro without an external full keyboard?

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Sometimes, I don’t have my full extended keyboard and have to type on just my 
MacBook Pro keyboard.  But I don’t have Page Up/Down or Home and End keys.  How 
does one compensate for this?

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Anyone use OBS on Mac? How do I add a video source?

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I’ve used OBS on Windows and had it work fine because everything just worked by 
default.   Unfortunately, on Mac, I can’t figure out how to get OBS to capture 
video from my screen by default.  

>From what I’ve read, I’m supposed to add a video source by clicking a plus 
>sign that I can’t find.  Are there any OBS users out there who can lend a hand?


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Re: How does one compensate for PageUp and PageDown keys or Home and End keys on a MacBook Pro without an external full keyboard?

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Thanks.  I'll check it out.

On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 5:00:27 PM UTC-6 wb...@swbell.net wrote:

> If you hold down the Fn key, the arrow keys become the following:
> Left Arrow becomes the Home key.
> Right Arrow becomes the End key.
> Up Arrow becomes the Page Up key.
> Down Arrow becomes the Page Down key.
>
> HTH.
>
> - Brad -
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> On Jan 7, 2023, at 16:41, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
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Re: Anyone use OBS on Mac? How do I add a video source?

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Got the video source thing solved.  Now can't get audio captured along with 
my video.   Again, it works fine on Windows.  Can't remember how I got my 
audio to capture with my video on Windows.  So, can't duplicate for Mac.  

On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 7:38:27 PM UTC-6 Kevin Gibbs wrote:

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> worked by default. Unfortunately, on Mac, I can’t figure out how to get OBS 
> to capture video from my screen by default. 
>
> From what I’ve read, I’m supposed to add a video source by clicking a plus 
> sign that I can’t find. Are there any OBS users out there who can lend a 
> hand?
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>
> Thanks,
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Re: How does one compensate for PageUp and PageDown keys or Home and End keys on a MacBook Pro without an external full keyboard?

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gt;>>> 
>>>> I can reproduce this behavior flawlessly, and without exception.  Just 
>>>> pressing the FN key does NOTHING! So, you can be rude all you want, but 
>>>> I’m going to post my experience as there is probably someone else out 
>>>> there who experiences the same thing, as I don’t that my Mac is an 
>>>> anomaly.  I don’t doubt that your Mac behaves as you describe, but mine, 
>>>> and undoubtedly others, do not.  So please don’t dismiss what I write out 
>>>> of hand.
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Brad Snyder >>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>>> You can disagree all you want, but the VO key is not necessary to change 
>>>>> the behavior of the arrow keys when using the Fn key.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 10:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry, Brad, but I have to disagree.  When I just press the FN key 
>>>>> nothing happens.  When I press the VO modifier, the keys behave as you 
>>>>> describe.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 9:27 AM, Bradford Snyder >>>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Changing the behavior of the arrow keys is not a function of VoiceOver, 
>>>>>> therefore it is not necessary to use the VO modifier in order to use the 
>>>>>> alternate actions of the arrow keys as described in my original response.
>>>>>> You can test this by turning on Keyboard Help, then press the different 
>>>>>> arrow keys while holding down only the Fn key.
>>>>>> Whether or not the VO modifier is used along with the Fn key makes no 
>>>>>> matter.  The actions of the arrow keys will be the same.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 08:55, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just one addition to this, for me to use these commands, I also have to 
>>>>>> hold down the VO keys.  So, VO-FN-right arrow for home, etc.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2023, at 4:59 PM, Bradford Snyder >>>>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you hold down the Fn key, the arrow keys become the following:
>>>>>>> Left Arrow becomes the Home key.
>>>>>>> Right Arrow becomes the End key.
>>>>>>> Up Arrow becomes the Page Up key.
>>>>>>> Down Arrow becomes the Page Down key.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> HTH.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2023, at 16:41, Kevin Gibbs >>>>>> <mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sometimes, I don’t have my full extended keyboard and have to type on 
>>>>>>> just my MacBook Pro keyboard.  But I don’t have Page Up/Down or Home 
>>>>>>> and End keys.  How does one compensate for this?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Kevin
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How do I convert Letter sized Pdfs to a4 on Mac? Can I use Preview?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

I have some US Letter sized Pdf documents which I need to convert to A4 before 
scanning them and e-mailing them to Europe.  I can’t send Letter sized docs 
because the margins won’t work and the result will be rejected.  I need to 
convert specific documents to be saved as PdFs in A4 so that they can be signed 
and notarized and rescanned, again as A4, to be sent to Europe.  

Without buying any software, particularly from Adobe, which I detest, how can I 
convert Letter Pdfs to A4 then sign and scan them back as A4 for sending to 
Europe?

Thanks,
Kevin

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Mac One Bundle is turning out to be a potential major PITA

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

My wife and I thought it might be a good idea to take advantage of the new Mac 
One Bundle so we can share Apple Music, Apple TV, Apple News and other stuff 
between the two of us.  There’s just one major problem.  Because of previous 
decisions we’ve made, I am listed as the “Organizer” and my wife is listed as 
an adult on the account.  The problem is that while I have 200GB of iCloud 
storage, she has 2TB of storage.  

If we proceed with this, I gather that we will have to downgrade Pam’s iCloud 
from the 2TB she’s had for the last couple years in order to avoid double 
paying for the 2TB of data we want.Before doing this downgrade, we will 
have to download all 407GB of my wife’s 2TB of data so that it won’t be lost 
when we stop paying for her individual 2TB plan.  Unfortunately, there doesn’t 
seem to be any short method for backing up Pam’s music, photos, docs and mail 
all at once so that it can then be re-uploaded to a new 2TB stash which is part 
of the new shared bundle.  

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user to download mail, photos, music, docs and so on in separate format 
specific operations instead of being able to simply grab all the data in one 
long download operation.  Am I missing something?  It seems to me that it would 
make more sense to simply have an operation designed to transfer the whole lot 
of Pam’s 407GB from essentially one vault to another in one shot.  Please let 
me know if I’m making sense and if I’m missing an operation that might make 
this a lot less painful.

Best,
Kevin

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Re: Mac One Bundle is turning out to be a potential major PITA

[Kevin Gibbs]

Just clicked Family Storage upgraded my iCloud from 200GB to 4TB.  2TB of 
that is what we want to discontinue.  Still gives us 2TB which should be 
enough.

On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 9:43:09 PM UTC-6 Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> Guys,
>
> My wife and I thought it might be a good idea to take advantage of the new 
> Mac One Bundle so we can share Apple Music, Apple TV, Apple News and other 
> stuff between the two of us. There’s just one major problem. Because of 
> previous decisions we’ve made, I am listed as the “Organizer” and my wife 
> is listed as an adult on the account. The problem is that while I have 
> 200GB of iCloud storage, she has 2TB of storage. 
>
> If we proceed with this, I gather that we will have to downgrade Pam’s 
> iCloud from the 2TB she’s had for the last couple years in order to avoid 
> double paying for the 2TB of data we want. Before doing this downgrade, we 
> will have to download all 407GB of my wife’s 2TB of data so that it won’t 
> be lost when we stop paying for her individual 2TB plan. Unfortunately, 
> there doesn’t seem to be any short method for backing up Pam’s music, 
> photos, docs and mail all at once so that it can then be re-uploaded to a 
> new 2TB stash which is part of the new shared bundle. 
>
> As near as I can figure out, the only steps available appear to require 
> the user to download mail, photos, music, docs and so on in separate format 
> specific operations instead of being able to simply grab all the data in 
> one long download operation. Am I missing something? It seems to me that it 
> would make more sense to simply have an operation designed to transfer the 
> whole lot of Pam’s 407GB from essentially one vault to another in one shot. 
> Please let me know if I’m making sense and if I’m missing an operation that 
> might make this a lot less painful.
>
> Best,
> Kevin
>
>

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Re: Mac One Bundle is turning out to be a potential major PITA

[Kevin Gibbs]

I am guessing as to what is going on here. I plan to call Apple and find out the facts and I’ll get back to you all then.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 12, 2023, at 10:54 AM, jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:    I am not sure how the programs work overall, but I know that I simply continued to pay for my 200 GB of iCloud storage and received 50 GB with the original subscription to what it was called before Apple 1. I was confused at first because I was canceling my 200 GB subscription thinking that it would be incorporated into the new package, but that was not the case. So, I currently have 250 GB total and pay extra monthly for the 200 GB package. I didn’t know they had changed things again.  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin GibbsSent: Saturday, March 11, 2023 11:04 PMTo: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Mac One Bundle is turning out to be a potential major PITA Just clicked Family Storage upgraded my iCloud from 200GB to 4TB.  2TB of that is what we want to discontinue.  Still gives us 2TB which should be enough.On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 9:43:09 PM UTC-6 Kevin Gibbs wrote:Guys, My wife and I thought it might be a good idea to take advantage of the new Mac One Bundle so we can share Apple Music, Apple TV, Apple News and other stuff between the two of us. There’s just one major problem. Because of previous decisions we’ve made, I am listed as the “Organizer” and my wife is listed as an adult on the account. The problem is that while I have 200GB of iCloud storage, she has 2TB of storage. If we proceed with this, I gather that we will have to downgrade Pam’s iCloud from the 2TB she’s had for the last couple years in order to avoid double paying for the 2TB of data we want. Before doing this downgrade, we will have to download all 407GB of my wife’s 2TB of data so that it won’t be lost when we stop paying for her individual 2TB plan. Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be any short method for backing up Pam’s music, photos, docs and mail all at once so that it can then be re-uploaded to a new 2TB stash which is part of the new shared bundle. As near as I can figure out, the only steps available appear to require the user to download mail, photos, music, docs and so on in separate format specific operations instead of being able to simply grab all the data in one long download operation. Am I missing something? It seems to me that it would make more sense to simply have an operation designed to transfer the whole lot of Pam’s 407GB from essentially one vault to another in one shot. Please let me know if I’m making sense and if I’m missing an operation that might make this a lot less painful. Best, Kevin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/0e3f5c5a-e9fa-482d-885e-d40cb8a60b3an%40googlegroups.com.



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Re: Mac One Bundle is turning out to be a potential major PITA

[Kevin Gibbs]

Just spoke to Apple and here’s the deal.  Remember that before the bundle, I, 
the Organizer, had a 200GB plan.  My wife, the Adult, had a 2TB plan.  We 
thought that she should cancel her 2TB plan before it auto renewed on April 1.  
But that would have caused a disaster.  The Apple advisor informed us that the 
correct procedure was for Pam to do nothing and allow us to be billed for her 
2TB plan on April 1 as usual.  When the Apple One Bundle renewed on April 10, 
her 2TB plan would automatically be canceled and she would receive a prorated 
refund for the number of days she didn’t use.  Meanwhile, her data would be 
rolled into the remaining 2TB that we bought as part of buying the largest 
available Apple One Bundle.  Again, this isn’t intuitive.  But we will sit 
still and do nothing, taking care to do a thorough backup of both our Macs with 
Time Machine to cover ourselves against a calamity.  If all works out well, we 
should see our total data decline from 4TB to 2TB on or about April 10 and all 
will be well going forward.  

Thanks for all the help and I hope someone finds this useful.

Best,
Kevin





> On Mar 12, 2023, at 10:53 AM,   
> wrote:
> 
> I am not sure how the programs work overall, but I know that I simply 
> continued to pay for my 200 GB of iCloud storage and received 50 GB with the 
> original subscription to what it was called before Apple 1. I was confused at 
> first because I was canceling my 200 GB subscription thinking that it would 
> be incorporated into the new package, but that was not the case. So, I 
> currently have 250 GB total and pay extra monthly for the 200 GB package. I 
> didn’t know they had changed things again.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2023 11:04 PM
> To: MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Mac One Bundle is turning out to be a potential major PITA
>  
> Just clicked Family Storage upgraded my iCloud from 200GB to 4TB.  2TB of 
> that is what we want to discontinue.  Still gives us 2TB which should be 
> enough.
> 
> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 9:43:09 PM UTC-6 Kevin Gibbs wrote:
>> Guys, 
>> 
>> My wife and I thought it might be a good idea to take advantage of the new 
>> Mac One Bundle so we can share Apple Music, Apple TV, Apple News and other 
>> stuff between the two of us. There’s just one major problem. Because of 
>> previous decisions we’ve made, I am listed as the “Organizer” and my wife is 
>> listed as an adult on the account. The problem is that while I have 200GB of 
>> iCloud storage, she has 2TB of storage. 
>> 
>> If we proceed with this, I gather that we will have to downgrade Pam’s 
>> iCloud from the 2TB she’s had for the last couple years in order to avoid 
>> double paying for the 2TB of data we want. Before doing this downgrade, we 
>> will have to download all 407GB of my wife’s 2TB of data so that it won’t be 
>> lost when we stop paying for her individual 2TB plan. Unfortunately, there 
>> doesn’t seem to be any short method for backing up Pam’s music, photos, docs 
>> and mail all at once so that it can then be re-uploaded to a new 2TB stash 
>> which is part of the new shared bundle. 
>> 
>> As near as I can figure out, the only steps available appear to require the 
>> user to download mail, photos, music, docs and so on in separate format 
>> specific operations instead of being able to simply grab all the data in one 
>> long download operation. Am I missing something? It seems to me that it 
>> would make more sense to simply have an operation designed to transfer the 
>> whole lot of Pam’s 407GB from essentially one vault to another in one shot. 
>> Please let me know if I’m making sense and if I’m missing an operation that 
>> might make this a lot less painful. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> Kevin 
>> 
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Can't send to my wife's mac.com account from my Google account. Why not?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

I’m having a weird problem these last few days and wonder if anyone else is 
experiencing this.  My wife tells me that e-mails sent to her Mac.com address 
from my gmail.com  address are not arriving on either her 
MBPro or iPhone 14Pro Max.  Messages sent from iCloud get through.  Other 
friends of mine have volunteered to send test messagees from their Gmail 
accounts to her Mac.com and my Gmail address simultaneously.  I receive the 
messages and my wife does not.  

We just spoke to Apple Care and they are stumped.  Has anyone else had a 
problem like this in the last five days or so?

Thanks,
Kevin

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Re: Can't send to my wife's mac.com account from my Google account. Why not?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Just to be clear, my wife doesn't have a Gmail account.  She can't get any 
e-mails sent from a Gmail account and we don't know why not.
On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:57:50 PM UTC-5 Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> Guys,
>
> I’m having a weird problem these last few days and wonder if anyone else 
> is experiencing this.  My wife tells me that e-mails sent to her Mac.com 
> address from my gmail.com address are not arriving on either her MBPro or 
> iPhone 14Pro Max.  Messages sent from iCloud get through.  Other friends of 
> mine have volunteered to send test messagees from their Gmail accounts to 
> her Mac.com and my Gmail address simultaneously.  I receive the messages 
> and my wife does not.  
>
> We just spoke to Apple Care and they are stumped.  Has anyone else had a 
> problem like this in the last five days or so?
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
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Re: Can't send to my wife's mac.com account from my Google account. Why not?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Sorry to bother you. I needed people with Gmail addresses because I’m testing a theory that my wife is in capable of receiving email from Gmail addresses. Again, sorry to bother you.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 11, 2023, at 8:26 PM, Michael Marshall  wrote:I don't know why you're writing to me for. I can't help.On 12 May 2023, at 11:06 am, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:Just to be clear, my wife doesn't have a Gmail account.  She can't get any e-mails sent from a Gmail account and we don't know why not.On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:57:50 PM UTC-5 Kevin Gibbs wrote:Guys,I’m having a weird problem these last few days and wonder if anyone else is experiencing this.  My wife tells me that e-mails sent to her Mac.com address from my gmail.com address are not arriving on either her MBPro or iPhone 14Pro Max.  Messages sent from iCloud get through.  Other friends of mine have volunteered to send test messagees from their Gmail accounts to her Mac.com and my Gmail address simultaneously.  I receive the messages and my wife does not.  We just spoke to Apple Care and they are stumped.  Has anyone else had a problem like this in the last five days or so?Thanks,Kevin

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Re: Can't send to my wife's mac.com account from my Google account. Why not?

[Kevin Gibbs]

I've done all the obvious: checked junk, blocked senders, rules, the lot. 
 My other messages go through fine. Note my original post here.

On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 8:49:08 PM UTC-5 herbie...@gmail.com wrote:

> Several things. First, are emails you are sending to other people going 
> through? Not suree sure if you’re using the address in question so that’s 
> why I ask. I’m assuming those accounts have a Junk Mail folder. Has she 
> checked that?
>
> On May 11, 2023, at 19:57, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> I’m having a weird problem these last few days and wonder if anyone else 
> is experiencing this.  My wife tells me that e-mails sent to her Mac.com 
> <http://mac.com/> address from my gmail.com address are not arriving on 
> either her MBPro or iPhone 14Pro Max.  Messages sent from iCloud get 
> through.  Other friends of mine have volunteered to send test messagees 
> from their Gmail accounts to her Mac.com <http://mac.com/> and my Gmail 
> address simultaneously.  I receive the messages and my wife does not.  
>
> We just spoke to Apple Care and they are stumped.  Has anyone else had a 
> problem like this in the last five days or so?
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
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Having focus problems with VO in all apps on Mac M1 running Monterey 12.6x

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,


I hardly know where to begin or where to put this.  I’m having some weird 
problems with my VoiceOver and what I guess is keyboard focus.  This began 
in Sibelius but has spread to all apps and that's why I'm writing you here. 
 


For some reason, in Sibelius, if VO is running, I can’t select notes or 
bars by using the shift and arrow keys.  I have limited vision and I know 
what the screen should look like as notes are selected.  But this doesn’t 
happen if VO is running.  If I turn VO off, the selection looks as it 
should.  


Curiously, if VO is on and I press shift and arrow, VO says that things are 
being selected.  But I know the screen is not reflecting that selection.  


I saved my VO preferences and then cut to default preferences.  Sibelius 
appeared to behave as it should under VO.  


Further, when I switch apps with CMD TAB, the active window may not show up 
on screen and new text added to the window may not appear even though ‘VO 
speaks words or text as it’s typed until I CMD TAB out and back in.  I may 
even have to turn VO off and back on to see text appear correctly in the 
active window.  This is highly irregular.  I’ve even seen the graphics of 
the various apps that show up as you CMD TAB through them remain frozen on 
the screen after I’ve supposedly settled into my preferred active 
app/window.   


I don’t want to rebuild my preferences.  There are issues with switching 
between languages and voices to read in foreign languages I’m attempting to 
learn.  I don’t have the energy to rebuild a lot of things.  Could anyone 
give me any pointers on how to debug my VO preferences to figure out what’s 
wrong?  I suspect there’s one preference that has become mangled by 
accident.  It’s almost as if Quick Nav is involved when it isn’t.  


Any guidance greatly appreciated.


Thanks,

Kevin

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Re: Having focus problems with VO in all apps on Mac M1 running Monterey 12.6x

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Cursor tracking is on.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 23, 2023, at 7:26 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:Try looking and see if cursor tracking is turned off. This sounds like the behaviors when that is the case.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 22, 2023, at 6:20 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:Guys,

I hardly know where to begin or where to put this.  I’m having some weird problems with my VoiceOver and what I guess is keyboard focus.  This began in Sibelius but has spread to all apps and that's why I'm writing you here.  For some reason, in Sibelius, if VO is running, I can’t select notes or bars by using the shift and arrow keys.  I have limited vision and I know what the screen should look like as notes are selected.  But this doesn’t happen if VO is running.  If I turn VO off, the selection looks as it should.  

Curiously, if VO is on and I press shift and arrow, VO says that things are being selected.  But I know the screen is not reflecting that selection.  

I saved my VO preferences and then cut to default preferences.  Sibelius appeared to behave as it should under VO.  

Further, when I switch apps with CMD TAB, the active window may not show up on screen and new text added to the window may not appear even though ‘VO speaks words or text as it’s typed until I CMD TAB out and back in.  I may even have to turn VO off and back on to see text appear correctly in the active window.  This is highly irregular.  I’ve even seen the graphics of the various apps that show up as you CMD TAB through them remain frozen on the screen after I’ve supposedly settled into my preferred active app/window.   

I don’t want to rebuild my preferences.  There are issues with switching between languages and voices to read in foreign languages I’m attempting to learn.  I don’t have the energy to rebuild a lot of things.  Could anyone give me any pointers on how to debug my VO preferences to figure out what’s wrong?  I suspect there’s one preference that has become mangled by accident.  It’s almost as if Quick Nav is involved when it isn’t.  

Any guidance greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
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Does anyone use multiple VO languages on a Mac

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Guys,

I wrote here a few days back about some keyboard focus issues I was having 
using an M1 MacBook Pro running Monterey 12.67.  but I want to set up a new 
topic because those focus issues were a minor complication as part of a larger 
problem.  

I’m trying to use Vo to help learn Portuguese.  I’ve added a Portuguese voice 
and two activities that should result in the ability to shift between English 
and Portuguese as the Vo content language.  While this was working initially, 
it went south when I noticed the focus issues I was talking about earlier.  But 
I wonder if anyone on here who is bilingual has ever added multiple languages 
to Vo on the Mac to shift between reading in two or more different languages.

Any guidance appreciated.

Best,
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Re: Does anyone use multiple VO languages on a Mac

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The solution is to make sure that Select based on language is not chosen in 
the VO rotor.  Unfortunately, Certain actions cause VO to bounce to VO 
Settings which defaults to that.  Maybe Activities are not the way to go in 
this case.   Thanks, Donna.  

On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 4:57:02 PM UTC-5 Donna wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> Cool that you’re learning Portuguese. I’ve always wanted to learn it.
>
> I have English, Spanish and Italian on my Mac. I have never noticed focus 
> issues when switching between them. However, I don’t use activities to 
> switch. I just switch in VO settings, (CMD, Option, CTRL, Shift left or 
> right arrow, then arrow up or down once you get to Language.)
> Hope this helps,
> Donna 
>
> > On Jun 28, 2023, at 4:47 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> > 
> > Guys,
> > 
> > I wrote here a few days back about some keyboard focus issues I was 
> having using an M1 MacBook Pro running Monterey 12.67. but I want to set up 
> a new topic because those focus issues were a minor complication as part of 
> a larger problem. 
> > 
> > I’m trying to use Vo to help learn Portuguese. I’ve added a Portuguese 
> voice and two activities that should result in the ability to shift between 
> English and Portuguese as the Vo content language. While this was working 
> initially, it went south when I noticed the focus issues I was talking 
> about earlier. But I wonder if anyone on here who is bilingual has ever 
> added multiple languages to Vo on the Mac to shift between reading in two 
> or more different languages.
> > 
> > Any guidance appreciated.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Kevin
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Need recommendations for best Time Machine drive solution. SSD vs conventional and brand recommendations for either

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Guys,

You may see this note on several lists.  My wife has a Western digital 
mechanical drive she uses for Time Machine.  The last time she fired it up, we 
had a bit of a panic as it failed to be recognized or mount initially.  While 
the drive did eventually present itself in Finder and do its thing, this isn’t 
the first time it’s given her a fright and we wonder if an external SSD would 
be more reliable than a conventional drive for TM.  She doesn’t necessarily 
need speed.  She does need peace of mind.  We’d be willing to pay a necessary 
premium for this.  

My questions are:

Is an SSD more reliable or durable in this context?

Do you have any recommendations for a 4TB drive to be used exclusively for Time 
Machine?

Finally, if an SSD doesn’t provide greater durability, do you have 
recommendations for the best mechanical drive solution?

Thanks,
Kevin
 

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Does making Dropbox folders online only decrease local disk consumption?

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I assume that making Dropbox files online only decreases your local disk 
consumption.  I further imagine that if you make a top level folder online only 
it should make all the subfolders within it online as well.  Is that true?  Do 
I have to go in and check Make Online only for each subfolder?  Worst yet, 
would I have to check online only for each individual file within a subfolder?  
That would be a horrendous. Drag if that’s the case.  Can someone let me know?

Thanks,
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Re: Does making Dropbox folders online only decrease local disk consumption?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Thanks Brandon.  As I write this, some of the files are still populating across 
machines.  That is, I can see them on the Windows machine but not on my Mac.  
That suggests that they are not yet fully uploaded.  I’m guessing that I’ll see 
them on the Mac when they’ve made it all the way up to DB itself.  We’re 
talking about 10GB of stuff and that might take a minute.  

Should I further assume that the online only status will e conferred upon these 
files once they appear on all devices associated with this account?

Thanks,
Kevin


> On Jul 2, 2023, at 6:04 PM, Brandon



> Olivares  wrote:
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> Yes, I do it all the time to save space. Just mark the folder as online only 
> and everything under it should be marked and removed from the disk.
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> 
>> I assume that making Dropbox files online only decreases your local disk 
>> consumption.  I further imagine that if you make a top level folder online 
>> only it should make all the subfolders within it online as well.  Is that 
>> true?  Do I have to go in and check Make Online only for each subfolder?  
>> Worst yet, would I have to check online only for each individual file within 
>> a subfolder?  That would be a horrendous. Drag if that’s the case.  Can 
>> someone let me know?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin 
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Re: Does making Dropbox folders online only decrease local disk consumption?

[Kevin Gibbs]

One more question.  What about iCloud Drive?  I decided to make a shortcut on 
my Windows 10 machine so that files stored in iCloud could easily find their 
way to the dark side when needed.:). is there a way to make them online only at 
least from the Win10 machine’s point of view?

Thanks,
Kevin


> On Jul 2, 2023, at 6:04 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
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> Yes, I do it all the time to save space. Just mark the folder as online only 
> and everything under it should be marked and removed from the disk.
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> 
>> I assume that making Dropbox files online only decreases your local disk 
>> consumption.  I further imagine that if you make a top level folder online 
>> only it should make all the subfolders within it online as well.  Is that 
>> true?  Do I have to go in and check Make Online only for each subfolder?  
>> Worst yet, would I have to check online only for each individual file within 
>> a subfolder?  That would be a horrendous. Drag if that’s the case.  Can 
>> someone let me know?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin 
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Re: Does making Dropbox folders online only decrease local disk consumption?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Let me make the iCloud thing a little clearer.  I made an iCloud Drive shortcut 
on my Win10 machine as I said.  It turns out that I placed a huge collection of 
video files in iCloud Drive because I thought I might want to watch them on my 
iPhone at some point.  I guess I’ll move them to DB and use my DB iPhone app 
because I assume I can make them online only in DB whereas I can’t do that in 
iCloud.  Is that right?


> On Jul 2, 2023, at 6:50 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
> If they’re uploading, then yeah they won’t appear yet on all devices.
> 
> If they’re online only, then I think they will default to that on all 
> devices. But I’m pretty sure you could opt to download them on a particular 
> device without downloading them on all devices.
> 
> Not sure what you mean about iCloud Drive. I wouldn’t mix iCloud Drive and 
> Dropbox if that’s what you mean. Choose one or the other for particular 
> files. Personally I only use iCloud Drive for things like Pages documents, 
> Numbers spreadsheets, etc. Everything else goes in Dropbox. I find it far 
> easier to navigate.
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 7:40 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> 
>> One more question.  What about iCloud Drive?  I decided to make a shortcut 
>> on my Windows 10 machine so that files stored in iCloud could easily find 
>> their way to the dark side when needed.:). is there a way to make them 
>> online only at least from the Win10 machine’s point of view?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 6:04 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I do it all the time to save space. Just mark the folder as online 
>>> only and everything under it should be marked and removed from the disk.
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I assume that making Dropbox files online only decreases your local disk 
>>>> consumption.  I further imagine that if you make a top level folder online 
>>>> only it should make all the subfolders within it online as well.  Is that 
>>>> true?  Do I have to go in and check Make Online only for each subfolder?  
>>>> Worst yet, would I have to check online only for each individual file 
>>>> within a subfolder?  That would be a horrendous. Drag if that’s the case.  
>>>> Can someone let me know?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Kevin 
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Re: Does making Dropbox folders online only decrease local disk consumption?

[Kevin Gibbs]

I’ve decided to move the 59GB video collection to my Mac desktop.  That should 
take it out of iCloud Drive and free up Windows disk space.  If I want to see a 
particular portion of this video collection on my phone, I’ll move that 
particular portion temporarily back into iCloud, watch it and then remove it 
again.  

Thanks everybody.


> On Jul 2, 2023, at 7:30 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> You can make them online only on the Mac side, but I’m not completely sure on 
> the Windows side when it comes to iCloud. Dropbox you can make online only 
> and that works on both OS’s.
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 19:05, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> 
>> Let me make the iCloud thing a little clearer.  I made an iCloud Drive 
>> shortcut on my Win10 machine as I said.  It turns out that I placed a huge 
>> collection of video files in iCloud Drive because I thought I might want to 
>> watch them on my iPhone at some point.  I guess I’ll move them to DB and use 
>> my DB iPhone app because I assume I can make them online only in DB whereas 
>> I can’t do that in iCloud.  Is that right?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 6:50 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If they’re uploading, then yeah they won’t appear yet on all devices.
>>> 
>>> If they’re online only, then I think they will default to that on all 
>>> devices. But I’m pretty sure you could opt to download them on a particular 
>>> device without downloading them on all devices.
>>> 
>>> Not sure what you mean about iCloud Drive. I wouldn’t mix iCloud Drive and 
>>> Dropbox if that’s what you mean. Choose one or the other for particular 
>>> files. Personally I only use iCloud Drive for things like Pages documents, 
>>> Numbers spreadsheets, etc. Everything else goes in Dropbox. I find it far 
>>> easier to navigate.
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 7:40 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> One more question.  What about iCloud Drive?  I decided to make a shortcut 
>>>> on my Windows 10 machine so that files stored in iCloud could easily find 
>>>> their way to the dark side when needed.:). is there a way to make them 
>>>> online only at least from the Win10 machine’s point of view?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Kevin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 6:04 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I do it all the time to save space. Just mark the folder as online 
>>>>> only and everything under it should be marked and removed from the disk.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I assume that making Dropbox files online only decreases your local disk 
>>>>>> consumption.  I further imagine that if you make a top level folder 
>>>>>> online only it should make all the subfolders within it online as well.  
>>>>>> Is that true?  Do I have to go in and check Make Online only for each 
>>>>>> subfolder?  Worst yet, would I have to check online only for each 
>>>>>> individual file within a subfolder?  That would be a horrendous. Drag if 
>>>>>> that’s the case.  Can someone let me know?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Kevin 
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Re: Does making Dropbox folders online only decrease local disk consumption?

[Kevin Gibbs]

One thing I will say about this iCloud thing.  I initiated the move of this 59
gB folder and it’s taking forever to even begin.  I realize moving 59GB, 
essentially downloading it, will take a long time.  But it’s amazing that it’s 
still saying “Preparing to move…” after at least fifteen minutes.  I wonder how 
long I should wait before stopping this and moving the files using Sneaker net 
from my Windows machine via thumb drive to my Mac and deleting the whole mess 
from iCloud.  

Thoughts?

> On Jul 2, 2023, at 7:30 PM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> You can make them online only on the Mac side, but I’m not completely sure on 
> the Windows side when it comes to iCloud. Dropbox you can make online only 
> and that works on both OS’s.
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 19:05, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> 
>> Let me make the iCloud thing a little clearer.  I made an iCloud Drive 
>> shortcut on my Win10 machine as I said.  It turns out that I placed a huge 
>> collection of video files in iCloud Drive because I thought I might want to 
>> watch them on my iPhone at some point.  I guess I’ll move them to DB and use 
>> my DB iPhone app because I assume I can make them online only in DB whereas 
>> I can’t do that in iCloud.  Is that right?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 6:50 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If they’re uploading, then yeah they won’t appear yet on all devices.
>>> 
>>> If they’re online only, then I think they will default to that on all 
>>> devices. But I’m pretty sure you could opt to download them on a particular 
>>> device without downloading them on all devices.
>>> 
>>> Not sure what you mean about iCloud Drive. I wouldn’t mix iCloud Drive and 
>>> Dropbox if that’s what you mean. Choose one or the other for particular 
>>> files. Personally I only use iCloud Drive for things like Pages documents, 
>>> Numbers spreadsheets, etc. Everything else goes in Dropbox. I find it far 
>>> easier to navigate.
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 7:40 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> One more question.  What about iCloud Drive?  I decided to make a shortcut 
>>>> on my Windows 10 machine so that files stored in iCloud could easily find 
>>>> their way to the dark side when needed.:). is there a way to make them 
>>>> online only at least from the Win10 machine’s point of view?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Kevin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 6:04 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I do it all the time to save space. Just mark the folder as online 
>>>>> only and everything under it should be marked and removed from the disk.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I assume that making Dropbox files online only decreases your local disk 
>>>>>> consumption.  I further imagine that if you make a top level folder 
>>>>>> online only it should make all the subfolders within it online as well.  
>>>>>> Is that true?  Do I have to go in and check Make Online only for each 
>>>>>> subfolder?  Worst yet, would I have to check online only for each 
>>>>>> individual file within a subfolder?  That would be a horrendous. Drag if 
>>>>>> that’s the case.  Can someone let me know?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Kevin 
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What's the quickest way to move a row up or down to new position in Numbers on Mac

[Kevin Gibbs]

So sorry for a stupid question.  I’m wanting to know how to cut a row, move to 
a new location and paste that row.  

I tried dragging and dropping.  While this probably worked, it left a space 
where the original location had been.  I also realize I can alphabetize by 
first column.  But before I do that, I’d like to know if there’s a way to 
essentially cut a row and then move to a new location and paste that cut row 
below the row I’m on.  The usual Cut in the Edit Menu delets text within a 
cell.  I don’t want to delete the row because I don’t want to lose it.  If 
Delete places the row on the clipboard, that could work.  But that outcome 
isn’t clear from what I can see.  

Any help greatly appreciated and again, sorry for a dumb question.

Best,
Kevin
  

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Need help finding affordable braille display for M1 MacBook. Also looking for Portuguese as second language braille resources

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

Sorry for the OT post.I’m thinking of finding an affordable, possibly used, 
small braille display to help me learn Portuguese by having language lessons 
reenforced with braille along with speech.  It’s a long story.  I need hardware 
that would connect easily to my 2021 M1 MacBook.

I need two things.  I need an affordable braille display so I can read 
Portuguese in braille.  I also need a braille resource for learning the braille 
symbols for all the diacritical marks, (accents,) in Portuguese braille.  For 
example, I know that an e with an acute accent is represented in braille with a 
full six dot cell.  A C with a cedilla is 1, 2, 3, 4, 6.  But I would like a 
full braille table of all the conventional symbols for letters that commonly 
take accents and how these are represented in conventional foreign language 
text, particularly Portuguese.

Finally, I’d also like any suggestions for braille Portuguese as second 
language textbooks that I might be able to use, particularly if they are 
relatively short and wouldn’t take up a ton of space on my shelf.For that 
matter, if there are braille resources which are computer files that could be 
read using an affordable braille display, that would be even cooler.

Again, I realize this is pretty off the wall.  If anyone has any suggestions 
regarding where I might turn to look for any of these tools, please let me 
know.  Also, if anyone on this list knows of any resources inside Portugal 
where I might find some of these materials, please don’t hesitate to let me 
know.

Thanks,
Kevin  

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Sonoma 14.4.1 CAPS LOCK won't pause speech when chosen as the VO key

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

I seldom post or visit here.  But here’s one where you all might have some 
guidance for me.  I have an M1 MacBook Pro running Sonoma 14.4.1.  I updated 
from 14.3 point something.  Ever since 14.4.1, I’ve noticed that the CAPS LOCK 
key will not pause speech in any Mac application.  Curiously, the Control Key 
does pause speech, even when it is not part of the VO key.  That is, when you 
choose CAPS LOCk exclusively, Control should not pause speech.  It does.  In no 
case will CAPS LOCK pause speech.  

I’ve tried this on my M1 and on my wife’s M1 with the same results.  My wife is 
sighted and does not use VO.  She also does not have any unusual third party 
apps like Sibelius that needs the CAPS LOCk for pause because it highjacks the 
Control key to move the user between the ribbon and the musical score you’re 
writing in.  

But both my wife and I have noticed the same behavior.  Another gentleman in 
Germany has confirmed my findings.  He is a Sibelius user but says his CAPS 
LOCk fails in Apple programs as well.  
Again, any effort you could make to test this and let me know if CAPS lock 
pauses VO speech would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,
Kevin

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How to delete individual messages from long e-mail threads and continue reading the thread in sequence

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

I’m using an M1 MacBook Pro running Sonoma 14.5.1.  I’ve discovered what I 
think is something weird about Apple Mail when it comes to reading long 
threads.  If one expands a long thread, the expectation should be that you 
start reading from the beginning of the thread and delete messages as you 
finish them, if that’s what you want.  Each successive deletion should move the 
reader to the next message in chronological order,  however, my experience has 
consistently been that deleting messages sends the reader hither, thither and 
yawn.  While there seems to be no real exact pattern to what happens, I find 
that I am either sent several messages down the thread, or, I’m sent to the 
very top of the thread.  The only way I know things are wrong is that I have 
enough vision to understand that I’ve been bounced somewhere other than where I 
should be.  

It used to be that CMD Option Delete, (where Delete is on the Sixpack, would 
deliver the desired result.  But now, using Cmd Option Delete removes the 
message such that it can’t be restored with Cmd Z.  Further, using this method 
doesn’t send the message to the trash.  I went looking for a message I removed 
in this fashion and it was nowhere to be found. So, I can’t use this deletion 
method anymore.  

I developed a case through Apple Accessibility and we’ve determined that this 
is a mail thing, not an accessibility thing, because the behavior is identical 
regardless of whether Vo is ON or OFF.  

Does anyone here have the same experience?  Does anyone here have a reliable KS 
for deleting a message from a mail thread while being certain of moving to the 
next message in said thread?

Thanks,
Kevin

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Re: How to delete individual messages from long e-mail threads and continue reading the thread in sequence

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Using Apple Mail on my MBPro running Sonoma 14.5.  i expand the thread with 
VO SPACE.  I then VO arrow down to the first mesage in the thread.  When I 
finish reading it, if i want to delete it, I use the delete key on the 
sixpack of my Magic Keyboard.  This will send me to the bottom of the 
thread instead of moving me to the next message.  

I recently tried turning Cursor Tracking OFF and using  CMD Option sixpack 
delete.  With Cursor Tracking OFF, you get a slightly more reliable 
response.  

I didn't quite understand some of the original suggerstions above in this 
thread.  I'll reread them and see if i can make sense.  

I am NOT using iOS.  I don't have any problems on my phone.   
z
On Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 8:23:11 AM UTC-5 eire...@gmail.com wrote:

> I got lost. I have gmail in mail app. 
>
> Eiret
>
>
>
>
> > 30. mai 2024 kl. 13:48 skrev Tom Rash :
> > 
> > I hit VO space on the thread to collapse it, and then arrow to the 
> bottom of the list and arrow up through the list to read in order, deleting 
> or not as I go through the chain and VO space to extend the list and delete 
> delete from the extended list if you want to delete the whole thing.
> > 
> > 
> >> On May 29, 2024, at 6:55 PM, Eiret  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Does it work to hold down vo-command keys then while holding down the 
> keys, hit left arrow until you hear messages, then arrow up/down in the 
> thread. I always start at the oldest post. First you have to hit the actual 
> thread in the inbox. Then do what i described above. Then you have the 
> option to delete the whole thread when you go back to inbox.
> >> However, this is in IOS with full qwerty external keyboard.
> >> 
> >> Eiret
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>>> 30. mai 2024 kl. 00:31 skrev Herbie Allen :
> >>> 
> >>> Not sure which method you use, but I expand the thread with right 
> aero without opening the thread and then just delete any messages within 
> the thread with the delete key.
> >>> 
> >>>> On May 29, 2024, at 15:16, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Guys,
> >>>> 
> >>>> I’m using an M1 MacBook Pro running Sonoma 14.5.1. I’ve discovered 
> what I think is something weird about Apple Mail when it comes to reading 
> long threads. If one expands a long thread, the expectation should be that 
> you start reading from the beginning of the thread and delete messages as 
> you finish them, if that’s what you want. Each successive deletion should 
> move the reader to the next message in chronological order, however, my 
> experience has consistently been that deleting messages sends the reader 
> hither, thither and yawn. While there seems to be no real exact pattern to 
> what happens, I find that I am either sent several messages down the 
> thread, or, I’m sent to the very top of the thread. The only way I know 
> things are wrong is that I have enough vision to understand that I’ve been 
> bounced somewhere other than where I should be. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> It used to be that CMD Option Delete, (where Delete is on the 
> Sixpack, would deliver the desired result. But now, using Cmd Option Delete 
> removes the message such that it can’t be restored with Cmd Z. Further, 
> using this method doesn’t send the message to the trash. I went looking for 
> a message I removed in this fashion and it was nowhere to be found. So, I 
> can’t use this deletion method anymore. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I developed a case through Apple Accessibility and we’ve determined 
> that this is a mail thing, not an accessibility thing, because the behavior 
> is identical regardless of whether Vo is ON or OFF. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Does anyone here have the same experience? Does anyone here have a 
> reliable KS for deleting a message from a mail thread while being certain 
> of moving to the next message in said thread?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Kevin
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How do i block e-mails on my Mac from senders who have my iCloud address

[Kevin Gibbs]

Subject says it all,

guys,
How do i block e-mails from my Mac and my iPhone using iOS9?  I gather that it 
is not possible to block e-mails on my phone.  If that’s true, that sucks.  
but, if there’s a recipe, you guys are sure to know it.  

since i don’t read this list, I’d be very appreciative if anyone answering this 
note would copy their response to me privately at:
kevj...@me.com 

thanks,
Kevin

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Hdeterming DAISY version of a book

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,
I have a problem. I have a daisy book that was done by the Minnesota
State services for the blind. However, I don't really know how to find
out what version of Daisy the book is done in. Can anyone tell me if
there's a method for finding this out? I want to buy an app for my
iPhone but need to make sure that the app supports the DAISY of this
specific book.

I did download JAWS 12 and discovered that this particular book would
work with that FS reader. However, I need to make sure that it will
work with either in daisy or read to go.  The only thing I know for
certain is that the book is audio only.  The book was delivered on a
cd ROM with a bunch of MP3 files all of which have long numbers
instead of descriptive filenames. There are also .sml files and one
HTML file.    Again, is there any way to look at these files on the
 disk to determine the flavor of Daisy employed?

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Re: Finale or music editor for mac?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Okay, here are the facts:
1.  No version of Sibelius or finale is accessible for the blind on a
Mac.
2.  The only music notation solutions that generates print notation
using mainstream, commercial off-the-shelf software, involves using
Sibelius 5.25, which may not even be available from Sibelius any
longer, and a special set of JAWS compatible scripts called Sibelius
access. Sibelius access is available from a site in the UK called
www.musicaccess.co,uk.  The site is owned by Dan Rugman.  Rugman  has
said  that he is working on a solution for Sibelius 6. This solution
will involve using jaws and Sibelius However, Sibelius 6 is also
probably  no longer available from Sibelius anymore because Avid, the
parent company that owns Sibelius, along with Pro Tools and M-Audio,
has moved to Sibelius 7.  Don't even think about imagining a blind
friendly pro level solution for Sibelius 7 on the Mac.
HTH

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Can't open an audio based DAISY book in in daisy worm

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,
Some of you may have been following my troubles on the viPhone list.
I'll summarize here by saying that I finally got the book I have,
which is in DAISY 2.2, into the file sharing section of the apps tab
of iTunes on my Mac.  However, for the life of me, I can't get the
book to open.  I can't get my iPhone to get past extracting book
archive followed by the title of the book.  How do i open the book on
the computer which should transfer it to the iPhone.

Curiously, I've messed up my ability to get into the indaisy server.
trying to get into 10.0.1.5 yields a message that the connection was
refused.  Also curiously, I did manage to get in once because of a
previous connection that I found in a list of previous attempts.
Unfortunately, I closed Fetch without logging out of that session but
having cleared the menu of previous sessions.  So, I guess I'm in that
session but, because I can't remember the name of the server, I can't
get back there, or something.  does anyone know the name of the in
daisy worm server?

In any event, if anyone could help me open this book, I'd really
appreciate it.  I feel like I'm so close I can taste it.  thanks for
everyone's understanding.

Kevin

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Re: Can't open an audio based DAISY book in in daisy worm

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,
I finally got it working.  While Daisy Worm was a no go for this,
InDaisy seems to work like a champ.  It took a minute to get the file
to open.  This appears to be because I didn't hold my finger down on
the file long enough initially.  Whatever the case, I now have a
perfectly working copy of a music notation reference book on my iPhone
for future use.

thanks for everyone's patience and help.

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Need to confirm the number of songs in iTunes library post MusicMatch

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,
I'm sure  this has been  covered.  But  I have activated Music
Match.  I just went to test how many tunes were in my iTunes library.
My iPhone 4 says there are 2400 or so.  There should be over 3K.  I
know certain tunes couldn't be matched.  I went to my iTunes library
on my computer.  while I can see the number of genres, artists and
albums, I can't get a number of songs.  How does one get that
information in iTunes on the Mac?  I want to be able to confirm the
number of tunes my computer says I have with the number my phone says
I have.  I also know that my available space on my iPhone increased
dramatically post Music Match.  thanks for any help.

Kevin

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Re: Need to confirm the number of songs in iTunes library post MusicMatch

[Kevin Gibbs]

Henry,
All was as you describe.  thanks.  Now, how do I reconcile the
difference between the number of tunes my iPhone reports and the
number my iTunes library reports?  It turns out i have over 4K in the
library and 2K on the phone.  There's no way I can hit and miss until
I find a tune that isn't on my phone.  what can I do?

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Re: Need to confirm the number of songs in iTunes library post MusicMatch

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Would I have to disable iCloud sync and then sync from computer?

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Re: Need to confirm the number of songs in iTunes library post MusicMatch

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The thing is, I fly on long international flights where I need my
whole iTunes library available, even when the phone is in Airplane
Mode.  I don't want to be stuck in a plane and find that some track
won't play because there's no web access.  See my problem?

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How do I save a voice memo sent from my wife's iPhone?

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guys,
My wife recorded the sound of some frogs outside our home a few days
ago as a voice memo on her iPhone.  I asked her to e-mail it to me.
the e-mail arrived and I can hear the memo.  However, I'd like to save
the attachment and delete the e-mail.  How do I import this into my
voice memos on my iPhone from Mac Mail?

thanks,
Kevin

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Re: How do I save a voice memo sent from my wife's iPhone?

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How do I save it to iTunes?  My problem is that I can't separate the
memo from the e-mail in which it's imbedded.

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Re: How do I save a voice memo sent from my wife's iPhone?

[Kevin Gibbs]

If I save the file by the means you mentioned, will importing the memo
into iTunes reference it at this location such as on the desktop, or
will it actually move a copy of the file into my physical iTunes
library?  I don't want to keep a copy of this memo on my desktop once
I've imported it into iTunes.I seem to recall that saving a file from
drop box onto my desktop had this problem when I imported that file
into iTunes. Actually, the problem was that I played the file in
iTunes and from then on it saved it to that position on the desktop.

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Spotify accessibility on Mac vs iPhone 4

[Kevin Gibbs]

Has anyone noticed that, while Spotify seems completely inaccessible
on the Mac desktop, it does seem remarkably accessible on iPhone 4?
Curiously, I discovered that there are even certain things about
Facebook that are more accessible if you approach FB through the share
Track option in the Spotify iPhone app.  Weird.  Is there a workaround
for making Spotify accessible on a mac running Lion?  For example, is
there  an app in the Mac App Store that might make things any better?
thanks in advance,
Kevin

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SSD external drive for Mac

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,
I had a very disappointing experience today. I bought a 128GB SSD drive, only 
to learn that a Mac could not write to it.  It was bad enough that I couldn't 
find an SSD drive with FireWire ports, but to find a drive that could only be 
written to buy a Windows computer?  This was absolutely unacceptable. Does 
anyone know of an SSD drive with FireWire ports that can be used by a Mac?  
Thanks,
Kevin

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Re: SSD external drive for Mac

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,
The reason I wanted SSD was because this ins a storage drive for the files of 
my latest studio CD.  Speed doesn't matter.  No moving parts should increase 
durability over the very long haul.  Drive is NTFS AND CAN't be changed, 
apparently, so must be exchanged at store.
Ideas?
Kevin
PS. Mac mini can't even see this drive.  Tried changing file system to FAT32 on 
an XP box I have.  No joy.

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Disabling reopening last visited file on app specific basis in Lion?

[Kevin Gibbs]

is it possible to disable the feature that opens the last file you
were working on in a specific application in Lion?  Let's say you were
working on a Pages document and you didn't want that document to be
opened the next time someone else used your computer.  while that
facility is desirable in Safari at times, I wonder if it's something
you can selectively disable from one app to the next.
thanks,
Kevin

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Re: Show all Bookmarks shows me the table of folders but not the bookmarks within the folders

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I had the same problem but was able to fix it with a little
persistence.  thanks for your answer.  I'll do my best to remember it
until the next Lion update comes out, hopefully with a fix.

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Re: Disabling reopening last visited file on app specific basis in Lion?

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Well, I appear to be half cool.  I was able to kill the open last page
in apps in the general pane of system Preferences.  but I wasn't able
to find the open to last page in Safari specifically.  where would
that have been?
thanks,
K.

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Re: Disabling reopening last visited file on app specific basis in Lion?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Well, that's the reverse of what I was asking for, but it will work
perfectly.  I was wanting Pages to disregard the state of open files
while Safari would retain what was open.  I guess the thing to do is
to retain the global setting to on and use the command option q for
Pages to hose open files.  I'll try it.
thanks,
K.

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Re: Help! Lost iTunes Match

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i don't know if this is the same thing.  I think I have two iTunes
accounts, each with its own ID.  I have some items which were
purchased with one account and one with another.  the interesting
thing is that I tried to use account 2  as my iTunes match account but
couldn't get the PW to work on my mac.  so, i used the ID for account
1.  Unfortunately, iTunes match on my iPhone expects account 2.  I've
transferred 3,000 plus tunes to the cloud using account 1 It's
possible that if I buy a song on my Mac with account 1, it may
transfer without a physical sync to my iPhone.  However, if I buy a
tune from the iTunes store using account 2, it probably won't transfer
to my Mac without a physical sync.  I really don't want to pay for
iTunes match twice.  I guess I'll call Apple Care tomorrow.  but if
anyone knows how I might fix this, I'd appreciate an answer.
thanks,
K.

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Re: Show all Bookmarks shows me the table of folders but not the bookmarks within the folders

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Another small problem. When I go to the bookmarks bar and go to the
bookmarks table, choosing the bookmark doesn't allow me to load that
page. I don't know why.  I can edit my bookmarks but I can't seem to
go to a website using the bookmarks from the table.

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Re: Music Notation software

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Unfortunately, there are no solutions for Mac.  the most current
solution on the windows side involves scripts that were written for
Sibelius 5.25 by Dan rugman in the UK.  He is supposedly going to
release a set of scripts that work with  several different JAWS
versions.  For the latest information, consult the Sibelius Access
list at www.musicaccess.co.uk.  the Sibelius 5 scripts have been taken
down to make way for the Sibelius 6 scripts.  Again, there are no
solutions for Mac and Voiceover.  You're simply out of luck.  i
wouldn't survive without Sibelius 5.25 on the Windows side and
Sibelius Access Scripts.  Sorry that's the state of things.

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Daisy Reader under Lion

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,
I promise I have looked in the archives but can't find the answer.
Does anyone have a recommendation for a DAISY reader under Lion?
There's nothing in the App Store and I haven't found anything in the
archives here or on the web.  I'd appreciate any help as i have a
large text book on music notation that I wish to search for specific
information.  These folks were kind enough to read the book in DAISY
format and it would be great to take advantage of that.
Best,
Kevin

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Re: Daisy Reader under Lion

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I neglected to mention that the book was done by Minnesota State
Services for the Blind.  It is not a Bookshare book.  but it has four
levels of Daisyness, so I'm hoping there's a Lion friendly Daisy
reader i can use on my Mac Mini.  I guess I could use one of the apps
that I see for my iPhone but I'd really prefer to use my Mac.  Hope
I'm making sense.

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Re: adding instruments in GarageBand

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Native Instruments are completely inaccessible.  What version of Logic
Pro do you have.  Since it doesn't work with VO, how do you use it?

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Need to burn custom CD with different spaces between certain tracks

[Kevin Gibbs]

guys,
I need to burn five custom CDs with some music for a grant
application.  I need to put a five second silence between track 1 and
2.  the rest of the spaces need to be the standard two seconds.  I
have iTunes 10.5x. Can iTunes do this?  It may be the case that the
music in my iTunes library is mp3 quality.  I would prefer to insert
the source CD and rip the tunes I want to a folder on my HD and then
put in a CD-R and burn the selected tunes from the folder I just
created with the variable spaces I mentioned above.  If iTunes can't
do this, can you recommend a program that can?  I don't want to pay a
studio for such a routine task.

Thanks,
Kevin

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Re: Need to burn custom CD with different spaces between certain tracks

[Kevin Gibbs]

Ray,
Where do I find "Burns," or "Simply Burns?"  Also, if I didnt' mention
it, could I use this to rip some tracks off a source CD, store those
in a file on my desktop and then burn a new CD containing some of the
ripped files from that new folder I just made?Kevin

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