Tim and Co. Sorry to bring this thread back up. Tim’s suggestion works great with one exception. I can move mailboxes around but I can’t distinguish how to move a mailbox so that it appears immediately below the point where I release the mouse. Invariably, I end up putting the moved mailbox within the mailbox where I release the mouse. I have enough vision to physically move a mailbox and place it such that a thin blue line appears, telling me to double tap and release the mouse. But there must be a command that distinguishes between putting the moving mailbox within the destination and putting it below the destination. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks, Kevin > On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:49 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > to clarify, this key combination was the original combination for dragging > and dropping when it was first introduced way back in Leopard or Snow > Leopard. This method also required you to turn off cursor tracking and to do > some careful mouse routing. The cursor tracking part of it is no longer > needed, and depending on your cursor syncing settings, mouse routing is not > always needed either. I still do that part though as I find it often helps. > No, this combination and process has not been removed, it is still a part of > VO commands. VO-comma and VO-period or VO-full stop for those of you across > the ponds, is also used for drag & drop but has lots of limitations. The > VO-comma/VO-period drag & drop process seems to require items to remain > visible either within the VO cursor or within the visible portion of a > scrollable element. This causes problems when you are attempting to drag > between windows, apps or items from one table to another. This is where the > old fashioned method shines. VO-cmd-shift-space toggles between mouse down > and mouse-up. Yes, the combination is all those keys, > ctrl-option-cmd-shift-space. It a twister combination but can be made easier > with VO-; to lock the VO keys, or to create a more simple combination with > the keyboard commander. I have a keyboard commander shortcut set for this, > but usually forget to use it and just use the full key combination as I'm > used to doing it anyway. > > There you go. Your history lesson along with clarification. > > HTH. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Jamf Certified Associate > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Sep 18, 2019, at 19:01, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Try using VO plus semi colon to lock the VO keys. That should help. Don't > forget to unlock the keys again with the same command which is a toggle. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 9/18/2019 5:41 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: >> E.T. so the syntax VO-command-shift-space literally means holding down the >> Control, Option, Command, Shift keys and pressing spacebar? >> Dave Carlson >> Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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