Re: Chill mats?
Hello Allison, I personally like to have a flat surface between my laptop and my lap, and I think products such as chill mats are a decent solution, though I usually settle for a large book, serving tray or something similar. I'm not sure about your particular situation, but I can tell you hot laptop computers, and hot desktop computers for that matter, are an age-old problem. Some are worse than others. I worked for IBM when their first Thinkpad laptops were introduced and one of the most common questions I heard back then was how to keep your lap from getting singed. Some of the heat level is dependent on which model macbook and CPU you have and what programs you are running. Applications that require a lot of processing power tend to make the laptop run hotter. Adobe Flash is a great example of such an application, but is not the only offender of course. Also, make sure your macbook's vents are not blocked. A few years ago Apple shipped some macbooks with a thin film of plastic covering the rear vent, thus causing overheating of those macbooks. The solution was to simply peel off the thin film from the outside of the rear vent, but this example does illustrate how important it is for the macbook's internals to be free to breathe. I'm interested to hear how you like your chill mat after you've had it for a while. Cheers, Bryan On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: > Has anyone ever heard of the overheating issue, or the chill mats? Thank you > for reading this, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Voiceover at the log on screen?
Hi Doug -- After you've unlocked the accounts preference pane, interact with the "Accounts, Groups and Login Options" list, VO down until you've selected the item labeled "Login Options." Then stop interacting with that list and when you VO through the options you should find a checkbox labeled, "Use VoiceOver in the login window." Check that box. Then click the lock to prevent changes, close System Preferences, restart, you should be good to go. HTH, Bryan On Jun 12, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote: > I am looking at my system here now and don't see a start VO at logon check > box. I'm running all the latest updates here as well. I went into the system > preferences, selected accounts, selected my account which is the admin > account, unlocked system preferences, but still don't see any start VO at > LogOn. > Anyone know why this may be? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: screen curtain
control option shift F11 I'd like to recommend that you consider using the built-in VO help system and google to find answers to basic VO keystroke questions such as this before posting the question to the list. A google search for screen curtain on off osx quickly returns the answer. VO H will give many help resources, and VO HH will give quick access to lists of many VO command key combos. HTH, Bryan On Jun 12, 2011, at 8:45 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > How do you turn on the screen curtain on the IMac? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Some VueScan results and observations
Firstly, thanks to Anne R for posting her VueScan settings and to Sandy T for setting a good example of tenacity when it comes to mastering a scanning / OCR application. I've spent some time with Vuescan now and am liking the results so far. I'm using the 64 bit trial on a 1.6GHZ MBA with 4GB ram, SL, and a USB connected HP Photosmart C6150. Upon first launch of the Vuescan app it automatically recognized my HP Photosmart. While entering Anne's suggested settings I noticed I had a few additional options which I assume are unique to each different scanner model. One of my input options was to select either Flatbed or Doc Feeder as this device has a document feeder on top of the lid covering the flatbed. I know from experience that the scanning hardware associated with the doc feeder does not produce nearly as high quality scans as the flatbed, but I decided to try the doc feeder first just to see if it might be acceptable. It quickly scanned a 3 page document and created my target RTF file, but the text was garbage. I then closed and relaunched Vuescan, went back through the settings and this time chose flatbed, and the results were very good. I tried a few pages from various types of printed material and they all gave similar results. I've pasted below what I think was probably the most challenging document. It's a page from an insurance policy that was faxed to me. I've replaced all sensitive info with xxx but all of the replaced text, including policy numbers and dollar amounts, had been interpreted correctly by the OCR engine. BTW- TextEdit did not automatically launch for me either, as others have noted, and when I installed the demo of BBEdit and set it as the editor of choice, it too did not open automatically. I imagine this is a small bug that the developer can easily fix in a future update. Cheers, Bryan POLICY NUMBER: x ZND OF 2 PAGES POLICY NUMBER: xxx ZND OF 2 PAGES ANY PERSON WHO KNOWINGLY AND WITH INTENT TO DEFRAUD ANY INSURANCE COMPANY OR OTHER PERSON FILES AN APPLICATION FOR INSURANCE OR STATEMENT OF CLAIM CONTAIN- ING ANY MATERIALLY FALSE INFORMATION OR CONCEALS FOR THE PURPOSE OF MISLEADING, INFORMATION CONCERNING ANY FACT MATERIAL THERETO COMMITS A FRAUDULENT INSURANCE ACT; WHICH IS A CRIME AND SUBJECTS SUCH PERSON TO CRIMINAL AND CIVIL PENALTIES. » J I HAVE RECEIVED AND READ A COPY OF THE "xxx INSURANCE PRIVACY STATEMENT". BY SUBMITTING THIS APPLICATION, I AM APPLYING FOR ISSUANCE OF A POLICYfOF INSURANCE AND, AT ITS EXPIRATION, FOR APPROPRIATE RENEWAL POLICIES ISSUED EY xxx INSURANCE COMPANY AND/OR OTHER MEMBERS OF THE xxx OF INSURANCE COMPANIES. I UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT ANY INFORMATION ABOUT ME THAT IS CONTAINED IN, OR THAT IS OBTAINED IN CONNECTION WITH, THIS APPLICATION OR ANY POLICY ISSUED TO ME MAY BE USED BY ANY COMPANY WITHIN THE xxx TO ISSUE, REVIEW, AND RENEW THE INSURANCE FOR WHICH I AM APPLYING. I HEREBY DECLARE THAT THE FACTS STATED IN THE ABOVE APPLICATION ARE TRUE AND REQUEST THE COMPANY TO ISSUE THE INSURANCE AND ANY RENEWALS THEREOF IN RELIANCE THEREON. T AGREE THAT IF MY PREMIUM REMITTANCE IS NOT HONORED BY THE BANK NO COVERAGE WILL BE BOUND. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT MISREPRESENTATION OF INFORMATION ON THIS APPLICATION COULD VOID SOME OR ALL OF MY COVERAGES. *** REFER TO POLICY AND DECLARATIONS FOR CO LETE C0 E 1 E FORMATION *** Sain PREMIUM $123.45 V 1). AMT PAID $0.00 . DATE /WUS7 BE RSON-’ OF APPLICANT ‘ A l I ,,I_ _, ~ 3/ I / 1 __,_C_,___,_ _H _,L_ xxx INSURANCE AGENCY xxx xxx AGENT #xxx DATE iB.*?"SIGNATURE -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: just submitted report to Vuescan Dev regarding Text edit
Thanks Ray, I just submitted one also. I consider it a minor issue as VueScan has been creating the RTF files and I've just been Command-Tabbing to Finder and opening them from there. While troubleshooting this, I removed the 64 bit version and tested the 32 bit version and while I did feel like the 32 bit version was a tad snappier on my MBA it seemed the same otherwise and also failed to launch textedit. Cheers, Bryan On Jun 13, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > For the benefit of those of us having issues with Text edit not opening > automatically, I just sent a report to the developor regarding this matter. > I assume, of course, that I am not the only one and that others here have > submitted a report. Just in case I'm the first, I would encourage others > having this issue to send their very detailed step by step reports along with > the Vuescan.log file to: > > edhamr...@aol.com > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
MoveAddict on sale today for US $4.99
For those who don't know, MoveAddict is a small application that runs on Snow Leopard, is accessible with VO, and adds the following two functions to the Finder: 1. Move files and folders using Command-X / Command-V. 2. Merge folders of the same name. There are some other ways to add these functions, or you can switch to Windows where they've existed all along, or maybe they'll even be built into Lion, but I think US $4.99 makes this an easier choice if you want to have these functions. Also, when you open the installer you will find a folder named "Accessibility." Within that folder is a PDF note from the Developer giving an overview of the accessibility of the application and asking for feedback if you encounter any inaccessible elements. That folder also contains the MoveAddict Preferences application which you can paste into your Applications folder and launch anytime you need to make changes. There are very few options and you'll probably not need to use the preferences app very often if at all. Here's a link to the MacUpdate promo for MoveAddict. You can also download a trial version from the same site: http://www.mupromo.com/ Cheers, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Um, VO Doesn't Seem to Work with the Mobile Me Site?
Hi Teresa, I have some bad news and some good news. First the bad. Believe it or not, Me.com is pretty inaccessible using VO or any screen reader. Esther has posted some workarounds that can help in some situations. One of Esther's tips is that it can be less painful to login if you include the specific section of the me.com site in the address bar as I've included in the following URL: www.me.com/findmyiphone When you get to that site, chances are you will still hear lots of the dreaded "Safari busy, Safari ready" chatter, but be patient and you should eventually be able to enter your id and password. I've noticed that it can take some VO left and right to hit the actual edit fields, and the button labeled "sign in" sometimes requires routing the mouse cursor to the VO cursor and then performing the VO-Shift-Spacebar mouse click. I just tested this and it got me to the "find my iphone" section of the me.com site but I was not able to find anything useful on that page using VO. Now for the good news. Aside from the me.com mess, I think you can perform the actual setup of the "find my ipod" service from your ipod itself. If you haven't already done so, take a look at the instructions at the following Apple site for setting this up on an ipod touch: http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/find-my-ipodtouch-setup/ More good news is that there is an App called "Find my iPhone" that is VO accessible and runs on an i-device. It will find any i-devices that have been setup on the "find my i-whatever" service under the ID you use to login after launching the app. It allows a sighted person to view a map displaying the approximate location of the i-device in question, and it has fully accessible functions allowing you to send a text message with or without sound, change the device's password, or wipe the device. You can even use the app to test the device you are running it on. Here's a link to the app in the US App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/find-my-iphone/id376101648?mt=8 Hopefully Apple will be replacing me.com with an upgraded and accessible website as part of the iCloud initiative. I had emailed accessibil...@apple.com a few months ago and they flat out told me the me.com site is not accessible with VO or any screen reader, but they offered no insight into when this situation might be improved. HTH, Bryan On Jun 17, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I'm actually *hoping I have the wrong URL for the Mobile Me site. I'm trying > to activate the "find my IPod" service, and when I go to www.me.com VO mostly > says "busy" and will occasionally read one element on the page. Is it just me? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bootcamping with windows xp
Here are links to 3 relevant Apple KB articles regarding the supported versions of Windows, which Mac models they will run on, and which versions of Bootcamp are required. The following KB article states that drivers for XP and Vista are no longer supplied or supported for 3 recent mac model lines. Article name: "Macbook Air (late 2010), Macbook Pro (early 2011) and iMac (mid 2011): System requirements for running Windows 7." http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4410 The following article was recently updated and gives some information regarding required Bootcamp software versions. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1899 The following article was published in February of this year and lists which 64 bit versions of Windows will run on which Macs under Bootcamp: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1846 HTH, Bryan > Original message: >> Hi, >> Just wanting to give everyone a heads up, that the new iMacs will not >> bootcamp with xp. I have tried, and it refused to do it. An article that has >> been posted yesterday suggests that mid 2011 iMacs stopped supporting xp, >> and I do wish I knew that before attempting... >> I've tried putting in in VM ware, but it is flaky, unstable, and taking >> control of the keyboard is iffy at best. >> Quite disappointed, and it does look like I might have to bite the bulet and >> do windows7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Sort of bazaar problem with Voiceover Focus
Hi Chris -- I have experienced this a bunch of times recently on my 2010 MBA. I've gotten so used to turning VO off and on several times a day that I hadn't even bothered to try troubleshooting the issue. I don't think I've seen it happen since updating to 10.6.8, but it's only been a few days... Cheers, Bryan > On Jun 28, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > >> This is really odd. Even before pulling the 10.6.8 update, I have noticed >> that quite often enough, If I press vo+M twice to go to my status bar, so I >> can check my battery, half of the time Voiceover won't move past the first >> bit of the menu bar. The only way I've found to deal with that is to >> restart Voiceover. I've noted this on my macbook, my friend's macbook and >> one of my friend's IMacs. So, this must not be a specific macbook thing >> just to my unit or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac Mini.
Hello Georges, Scott answered your first two questions and I can answer the third, regarding how to replace RAM in the Mac Mini. The process is quite simple in the newer Mac Minis that were manufactured beginning in mid 2010, which I assume is what you have purchased. The entire enclosure of the recent Mini is aluminum with the exception of the large round plastic "foot" that you will feel on the underside of the Mini. This plastic foot is actually a cover that can be removed simply by turning it counter-clockwise and lifting it off of the Mini. Assuming you have washed your hands thoroughly and are now grounded to prevent static electricity from damaging the internal components, you can feel around inside the body of the Mini and you will find the RAM modules. They are stacked on top of each other, so you will only feel one module at first. It is held in place by two metal spring loaded clips, one on each side of each RAM module. You gently expand these two clips and as you do so the RAM module will pop up slightly. You can then gently pull on it to fully remove it from it's socket. While you're doing this, you might want to feel along the edge of the RAM module where it meets the socket in the Mini. This might help you to understand how the RAM module fits into the socket, and you'll need to know this when you attempt to insert your new RAM modules because they can only be inserted correctly facing one direction. Once you've removed the first RAM module you can feel the second RAM module under it. It is removed using the same procedure. Incidentally, RAM prices seem to be dropping at the moment and, in fact, someone on another list posted a note saying that newegg.com has an 8 GB RAM kit on sale today for US $50, but I haven't verified this and I'm not sure if newegg.com is an option in your locale. HTH, Bryan On Jul 2, 2011, at 2:26 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: > Just bought mac mini with the default configuration 2.4GHZ and 2GB of ram and > 320GB of hard disk space to start with. My questions are: > > Can I set it up by just connecting the mouse and the keyboard or do I need > the screen or at least the adapter to vga? Heard theories in the past that > they used to hang up without an adapter when used is this still the case? > > Can I run windows7 32bits on it with 2GB ram or shall I wait until 4GB or > more is into it? Btw, how does one replace ram on this little cd-like thing? > Will stick to bootcamp now, regards. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac Mini.
Hello Georges, I will try to answer both questions. 1. Apple's branded version of the adapter required to connect your Mac Mini to a VGA monitor is called a "Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter" and here in the US it has a part number of MB572Z/A. I imagine there are other brands available, and I'm not sure what the part number might be outside of the US. Here is a direct link to this adapter in the US Apple Store online: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB572Z/A 2. Here is a description of the ports on the back of the current mini model (also known as the Mid 2010 model). As you've already mentioned the jack for the loudspeakers, also known as the Audio Out port, is the leftmost port. Following your lead, I will list the ports on the back of the current model Mac Mini from left to right as you are looking at the Mini from the front, not the back. 1. At the very left you have the aforementioned Audio Out port and immediately to it's right is the Audio in port. 2. Above both of those ports is the SD memory card slot. 3, Moving right from the SD card slot you will find the 4 USB ports you mentioned. 4. The next port is the Mini DisplayPort which is where you would plug in the VGA adapter mentioned above. 5. The next port is the HDMI port, and this is where the included HDMI to DVI adapter fits for those folks who want to connect a monitor with a DVI port. 6. The next port is a FireWire 800 port. If you're not familiar with Firewire, you can google the term for tons of information. 7. The next port is a standard Ethernet RJ-45 port for connecting to a wired network. 8. The next port is, of course, the power connector followed by the power on / off button. 9. Finally, the wide slot under the other ports is actually just a slot to allow for hot air exhaust. You can feel and hear warm air blowing out of this slot when your Mini gets hot enough inside. HTH, Bryan On Jul 3, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: > Ok now I made the setup without a screen but I agree totally on what both of > you said that I need not only the adapter that came with the mini but the > screen as well. I tried the adapter it fit somewhere in the mini but on the > other end it did not fit in the vga display I have, here I wonder what is the > adapter I should get to fit in this old screen? > > Can anybody tell me the names of the connectors from left to right? I know > the most left one is for the loudspeakers and of course I recognise the 4 usb > ports but the other connectors are strange to me, especially that wide slot > under them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Is it possible to connect HDMI or Mini DisplayPort output to RCA inputs? [Was, Re: Adapter Question Again For Mac Mini.]
Hello Georges -- I've modified the subject line in hopes that it will grab some attention from folks who have done this with something other than a Mac Mini, perhaps with an Apple TV which I believe also has an HDMI output like the current Mini. I suspect there aren't too many folks on this list attempting to attach a display using the old RCA connections, so Google is probably your best friend for advice on this one. Searching for the terms "HDMI to RCA" or "Mini DisplayPort to RCA" returns many discussions about this topic. As far as I can tell, it is indeed possible to convert both of your Mini's display output types to RCA but only by using a converter box in conjunction with the proper adapters. HTH, Bryan On Jul 4, 2011, at 5:54 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: > I have a portable 7inch digital tv set that receives terrestrial broadcasts. > On this receiver all inputs whether sound or video are 3.5mm jacks and it > came with a cable which has two mail of these one for sound and the other for > video input and on the other end three rca two of them for sound and the > third is for video. I wonder is there any HDMI to DVI adapter that I can > plug my mac mini to this cable and use it as screen and loudspeaker to the > mac mini or at least as screen only? In other words the hdmi end is ok but > instead of HDMI to DVI it should have three rca females. Am I dreaming of > such a combination? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO and languages other than English
Hello Adrienne, I'll add one note to what others have already said. If you desire to have a non - English VO voice prior to the release of OSX 10.7 Lion, you can download and install a fully functional 30 day trial of any of the voices from Assistiveware, the vendor mentioned by Anne. I've just begun using a trial version of the Spanish voice named "Rosa" and am very pleased with the quality and performance of the voice as well as the simplicity with which I can switch between the English and Spanish voices on the fly using the VO keystrokes Anne outlined. Here is a direct link to Assistiveware's voice download page where you can listen to samples of each voice and download the fully functional versions. http://www.assistiveware.com/voicedownload.php HTH, Bryan On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:36 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > I use VoiceOver in English and French all the time. At the moment, you need > to get French voices from Assistiveware. These are the Acapela voices and > they're very good. However, when Lion comes out, there will be voices in all > the languages into which VoiceOver is localised. > > To switch voices, and therefore languages, you just press VO-Cmd-Arrow keys, > using left or right to find Default Voice, then up and down to find the voice > you want. VO remembers the last voice you used, so I just have to do > VO-Cmd-Down arrow to switch languages. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Importing burned audio cds into iTunes? Where do they go?
Hi Doug, To add to what Colin said, sorting your music table by Date Added might let you easily find those recently imported no-name tracks. Here's one way of performing this sort" 1. Interact with the Sources table and select Music. 2. Stop interacting with the Sources table. 3. Press Command+J to open the View Options dialog box. 4. VO through this dialog box and make sure the "Date Added" checkbox is checked. Press OK to close the View Options Window. 5. Make sure your library is showing in "List" mode. This can be check in a number of ways, but pressing Command+Option+3 will set it for you. 6. Interact with the Music table, Navigate to a field in the "Date Added" column, and press VO+Shit+\ and you should hear VO announce something like, "sort column up" or "sort column down." 7. If you've sorted the column down you should find your most recently imported tracks at the top of the list. These will hopefully be the unnamed tracks you are looking for. HTH, Bryan > On 5 Jul 2011, at 23:06, Doug Lawlor wrote: > Hello list: >> Last evening a friend gave me a cd that was burned on another computer. I >> took this and imported it into iTunes. Naturally iTunes could not find the >> names of the tracks. I did not see this as a problem so I went ahead and >> imported it. The problem is it is not showing up in my iTunes library. Can >> anyone help here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a macbook pro question?
Mary -- I really agree with you regarding the disappearing keys. Every time I read or hear Apple touting their laptops having "Full-sized keyboards" I roll my eyes. While their keyboards might contain some full-sized keys, they are most certainly NOT full-sized keyboards. And before the zealots start flaming, I should mention that I love my Apple Bluetooth keyboard, full-sized or not. Bryan On Jul 5, 2011, at 9:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > The vo keys are on both sides of the keyboard if you have a full keyboard. > Unfortunately, the geniuses at Apple do not include a control key on the > right hand side of their keyboards these days. So you don't get vo keys on > both sides unless you have an older keyboard or buy one like the one from Mac > Ally. Apple managed to do what so many makers of laptop keyboards do, i.e. > leave out the full compliment of keys we've grown use to on standard > keyboards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: checked state in iTunes
Hi Jeff -- Assuming you are running the latest version of iTunes, you can interact with each App in the list and VO will read the status of the checkbox for that particular App. Here's a rough list of the steps to accomplish this: Attach your i-device to the Mac, open itunes, interact with the Sources table, select your i-device, stop interacting with the sources table, navigate to the Apps radio button and select it, navigate to and interact with the Apps scroll area, navigate to and interact with the Apps Table, interact with an App. At this point VO should announce something like "Interact with group, three items, , checkbox checked. You can use the spacebar to toggle the state of the checkbox and VO should announce the change as you make it. HTH, Bryan, On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Jeff Bishop wrote: > Has anyone developed a solution of determining which apps are checked or > unchecked when syncing apps to your phone on the Mac in iTunes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Are there any audio described stuff in the Itunes store?
Hi Soren, I'm not sure if you'll be able to get these. but here are links for 2 animated movies with descriptive audio. These are the only two I'm aware of currently in the US iTunes store, but there might be others. Toy Story 3: http://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/toy-story-3-with-descriptive/id393469956 Up! http://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/up-for-blind-viewers-audio/id327127329 HTH, Bryan On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > I'm sorry if this is off-topic, but I'm disparately searching for ways to get > audio described movies in legal ways. Well, BBC won't let us outside the UK > stream their shows in legal ways, so I was thinking if there are any audio > described movies in the Itunes store -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Anyone know how to deal with the popups that come up in edit boxes in Lion?
Hello Doug, When you hear that little popup sound, press VO+Shift+J to move the VO cursor to that popup menu. You can then use VO left and right to navigate through the choices and press the Return key when you've found your desired choice. HTH, Bryan On Jul 21, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: > I'm just wondering how do we go about working with the autocorrection > features in Lion. I'm talking about the autocorrection sound like you hear on > the iPhone but they've now ported this to the Mac. The difference is that > when you get the autocorrection sound on the Mac you get how many suggestions > that are in the popup. I would love to know how to use these popups. On the > ipHone you get a suggested word spoken. On the mac this does seem to happen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Determining how much space is in my hard drive
Hello Courtney and Zach, It seems Apple turned off this feature by default in Lion, but you can quickly get it back by either pressing Command+/ or by navigating to the Finder's View menu and selecting "Show Status Bar." One other tip regarding a way to quickly get size and file info about a folder: when you're on a folder or a drive you can press the Space Bar. That will open Quicklook and announce the size with a few other bits of information. Simply press the Escape key to exit the Quicklook window. HTH, Bryan On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > It was always at the bottom of every finder window I went into. In snow > leopard it would say something like "50 items, 68.03 gb available". It was > when I didn't interact with the list. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: battery life under lion
Hello Missy, I wanted to mention that if your MacBook is indeed a 2011 model, then it might still be covered under Apple's standard warranty. You can get details of your Mac's warranty status by taking the following steps: 1. In the Apple Menu select "About This Mac." 2. In the About This Mac dialog click the "More Info" button. 3. In the More Info dialog use VO to navigate through the items until you locate your serial number. 4. Launch Safari and go to https://selfsolve.apple.com/GetWarranty.do 5. Type your serial number and select your country and click continue. 6. On the next page, find and click the link labeled "See your service and support coverage." This will take you to a page that will give some details regarding the current status of your Phone support, Hardware support, and AppleCare options. HTH, Bryan On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> That's what I have too: a 2011 13 inch macbook pro. I'm not sure if the >> battery life being cut in half is related or not, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: need help with a view menu problem in finder under lion
Hello Peggy, This might be a silly question, but are you sure you have a Finder Window open inside Finder? I think most of the Finder menu items will be greyed out if there are no windows open. You can press Command+N to open a new window. HTH, Bryan On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote: > I have discovered that all the items in the view menu in finder are dimmed. > I can't change to column view or do the command to show the status bar as was > suggested in the discussion about showing hard drive space remaining. If any > one knows how I might fix this I'd sure appreciate it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion vo documentation?
Hello Mary, Hope this is what you're looking for. I'm using Lion and here's what I get when I press VO+H and select "VoiceOver Getting Started Guide." http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.7/English.lproj/index.html Cheers, Bryan On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > I don't have Lion. I'm looking for a getting started guide that I can access > from the web, and when I did that earlier today, I got the SL one. I mean > just a couple hours ago, but will try again in case they made the change in > that time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Fwd: Here's one way of adding a hotkey to access the Safari 5.1 Downloads window in Lion
Hi Folks, > The behavior of the Safari downloads window in Lion annoyed me enough to send > me searching for a workaround. I'm sure plenty of fixes and nice accessible > third party download managers will arrive soon if they haven't already, but > for now the following VO-friendly workaround from Fastscripts is my favorite > find so far. While this script does not restore the downloads window to it's > previous SL behavior as a separate window, it does make for a quick way to > toggle the window open and closed and it moves the focus of the VO cursor to > match. Two caveats: The script doesn't work if Safari is in Full Screen mode > or if you have hidden the Safari Toolbar. > > http://www.red-sweater.com/blog/1949/restore-safaris-downloads-keyboard-shortcut > > HTH, > Bryan > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is this really Apple software???
Hello Larry, I have one suggestion and one verification regarding two of your issues. Regarding mail freezing when looking at certain types of messages: DO you have mail set to automatically load remote images? If yes, perhaps you could try turning off that feature unless you really need them to load for some reason. You can toggle this setting in Mail Preferences / Viewing / "Display Remote Images in HTML Messages." Incidentally, this is one of the settings that got automatically toggled back on when I upgraded to Lion. Regarding toggling the screen contrast: I am also experiencing this issue. Even pressing VO+Tab to ignore next key press does not help but it does seem as if VO is getting in the way somehow because like you I can toggle this setting if VO is off. For reference, I'm on a late 2010 MBA and Lion was upgraded from SL. HTH, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover bug
Hello Chad, I have been experiencing something similar to this since installing Lion. From time to time I will not be able to arrow right from the Apple menu, but I can always arrow left from there and work my way backwards. Can you give that a try and let me know what your results are? Cheers, Bryan On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:36 AM, chad baker wrote: > hi has anyone experienced vo not going to menu bars > it will read just apple and nothing else > i tried turning vo off and on > also its slow typing with alex > he needs a boost > thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Choosing a Mac Book Air
Hello Garth, I have a late 2010 11 inch macbook air and can give my opinions. I've never tried the 13 inch Air, so I won't give an opinion on it. Regarding RAM: I think there are several good reasons to purchase it with 4 GB of RAM. Reason one: Unlike most computers, RAM on the Air is not upgradable after you've purchased it. It is soldered to the system board and cannot be expanded. Perhaps an enterprising third party will come along with a method of upgrading RAM but as of yet this has not happened to the best of my knowledge. Reason two: Lion's minimum RAM requirement is two GB. It's probably a good idea to have more than the minimum even if you only plan to do basic web surfing, email and skype.. Reason three: If you're considering the only model that comes with 2GB RAM, I assume that also means you're considering the 64 GB SSD that comes with that base model. Apple's retail price is US $100 to bump that base model up to 4GB. However, if you bypass the base model and go with the higher-level model, you will get both the additional 2 GB of RAM plus a 128 GB SSD for not a lot more money, especially if you shop around at vendors such as macmall and amazon where you can find better pricing. While I would normally also recommend looking at Apple's online refurb store, in this case I think the reported performance improvements of the newest Air probably outweigh the small price difference offered by purchasing a last-generation refurbished Air. Regarding Zoom: I used Zoom extensively in the past when my vision was better, and I still use it sometimes with my 24 inch external monitor. For getting out of tricky situations, I find Zoom is fine on the 11 inch screen. Try it in the store and see what you think. You can zoom the heck out of most things. If you're like me and cannot see anything on a white background, you might want to also try reversing the video to white-on-black. The Zoom, color and contrast options can all be found and quickly toggled in the Universal Access panel of System Preferences. If you decide to attach an external monitor, you can do this through the new Thunderbolt port which actually doubles as a mini DisplayPort, thus allowing you to use Apple's variety of adapters to connect to VGA, DVI and I think HDMI displays. HTH, Bryan On Jul 28, 2011, at 5:33 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote: > I am trying to decide which Mac Book Air to buy. I would love to hear the > experiences of those of you who use the zoom feature with VO. I have been > trying the air out at our local Apple store and am trying to decide between > the 11 inch and the 13 inch models. > > Firstly, do you all think that it is important to get 4 Gb RAM or would 2 Gb > be fine with VO. Keep in mind that the Air would primarily be used for email > and browsing. At times I will be using the Air for skype and will want to be > able to record the audio. > > Next, how well does the Zoom feature work. The reason for asking is that I am > trying to evaluate the value of spending an extra $100 or so for the extra > screen realestate of the 13 inch. My sight is poor enough that I would > probably only use the screen to help get out of those tricky situations where > seeing the screen makes it easier. I hope this makes sence to some of you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: To the Moderators
I too am just about ready to unsubscribe. Lately the quantity of low-quality posts has increased dramatically which has the unfortunate side-effect of making it difficult to find the quality posts. I've actually added a mail rule to automatically send one particular high-volume poster's messages directly to the trash. Again, perhaps I'm just a grumpy old guy who is living in the past where there was a standard email list etiquette that was known, followed, and enforced by Mods and Members alike. Perhaps the new way of doing things is more akin to Facebook where some people need to tell the world every time they've passed wind, and other people need to thank them publicly for sharing. If that is going to be the new reality going forward on this list, I'd appreciate if the Mods would make that publicly known. Cheers, Bryan On Jul 28, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Ronald McEwan wrote: > It is becoming evident to me that this list has turned into a free-for-all. > I am reading more and more mails that don't have much to do with Mac > accessibility but apple in general. > > I bought my first Mac in February and joined the list because I wanted input > from those who have been in the apple arena for a while. However, I am > considering leaving the list because of its current direction. > > Please post the guidelines and let me know if I am mistakenin any way. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Keynote error
Hello Allison, I noticed in your error message that you appear to have an older version of Keynote running on Lion. My first thought was that you might need to upgrade to the latest version of Keynote, which is version 5.1. Apple released free updates for Keynote, Pages and Numbers a few days before releasing Lion and I believe they addressed some Lion-related issues. You should be able to get the updates by running the standard Software Update process from the Apple menu. HTH, Bryan On Jul 29, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: > I just tried to oepn Keynote and received the following error. Does anyone > know what this means? I'm stumped. I will try to restart and see if this > helps. I've been able to launch Pages, and I'm not sure about Numbers, I have > to check. If anyone could help, I'd grately appreciate it. Have a great day. > Here is the message I receive when opening Keynote Process: Keynote > [345] > Path:/Applications/iWork '09/Keynote.app/Contents/MacOS/Keynote > Identifier: com.apple.iWork.Keynote > Version: 5.0.5 (942) > Build Info: Keynote-942~2 > Code Type: X86 (Native) > Parent Process: launchd [128] > > Date/Time: 2011-07-29 07:28:00.579 -0400 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bookmarks bug in Safari?
Hello Ricardo, I'm not having that problem. Pressing Command+D pops up the "Save this page to..." dialog box with VO focused on it in Safari 5.1. For kicks, I also tried it in the latest webkit and chrome and it also worked OK in both. Lion on late 2010 MBA. HTH, Bryan On Jul 29, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > I noticed when in Safari, when I press command D to save a webpage to > bookmarks, voiceover does not see the add to bookmarks window. I have to > toggle voiceover on/off for voiceover to see it. Are others having this > problem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Scripting functionalities ...
I, too, am intrigued by what Applescript might offer in terms of increased accessibility. Bryan S of VoxKeys fame has some interesting things on his website as does the Developer of the FastScripts utility (links below). In fact, I noticed that the developer's notes inside his script to re-enable the Safari 5.1 Downloads hotkey mentions that it finds the correct button by using it's "accessibility description.". Voxkeys website: www.bryansmart.com Fastscripts website: www.red-sweater.com Bryan On Jul 29, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote: > You can configure hotspots per application with activities. As for > AppleScript, I've poked around a little and want to learn it more. Someone > here posted a script to speak the battery percentage, and I modified it to > also say the remaining time. Not bad for not knowing the language! I did note > in the new features for Lion that AppleScript now supports interacting with > the Cocoa framework. Does this mean we can make neat little scripts with > controls and all? I think it does. > > On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Jon Cohn wrote: >> How much have you actually looked at AppleScript? The Voice Over set of >> commands just allows you to script the various VoiceOver functions if you >> want access to the menus or different graphical widgets an application that >> has been available in the Macintosh environment longer then VoiceOver has >> been around. I have not seen anybody try to merge the VoiceOver scripting >> and the UI element scripting, but doing this should give you the same level >> of control that jaws scripting gives to jaws users. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
A question about a specific example of slowness in iTunes 10.4
Hi Folks, I think there's already been some discussion about slowness in iTunes 10.4, but I'm wondering if other folks are experiencing the following specific behavior: If I select "Music" in the sources list and then attempt to navigate through my songs, it takes several seconds to VO up and down through my songs or left and right through the fields in each song. However, I experience no delays when navigating through my lists of Books, Movies, TV Shows or even through the contents of my playlist folders. My music library is 30GB, movies library is 10GB, other libraries are smaller, but regardless of size or number of items, I don't recall having this issue in the previous version of iTunes running under SL. This is on a late 2010 macbook air with 4GB RAM and a speedy SSD. The whole library is located on the SSD. I've tried changing views, columns, and any other options I could think of. TIA, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lion Mail
Hello Chris, After some initial hesitation, I have adopted the new mail layout and the VO+J keystroke to move back and forth between the message list and message body. While I used to use the Tab key to move between all sections of mail under SL, it seems to me that the tab key has lost some of it's functionality under Lion Mail, even in the classic mail layout. I like the fact that VO+J automatically interacts with the chosen item and allows me to use either standard VO keys or just arrow keys to navigate within the column or the message body. Also, the fact that I'm already interacting means I can use the VO+Shift+Home/End as Teresa mentioned, thus making a workable substitute for the missing Option+Up/Down keystroke. While I have adopted the Favorites bar, I'm not as excited about it as other folks are. Also, I haven't taken time yet to try the conversations feature, so I can't comment on it. Overall, I am quite happy to have the expanded set of layout options and features found in Lion Mail. Cheers, Bryan On Jul 30, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Hey I had never used VO+Shift and the end or home keys, I have just tried > this though and it works great! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: possible bug in lion with voiceover
Hi Mike, I can confirm that this is happening for me too. First press of VO+F5 just makes a tone if mouse pointer is anywhere in the menu bar. Second and third presses behave as designed. Late 2010 MBA, Lion upgraded from SL. Cheers, Bryan On Jul 31, 2011, at 11:09 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Hey everyone, wondering if anyone else can reproduce this, or if it's just > happening on my system. I did a clean install of lion, when you first boot > up, your mouse pointer is on the apple menu in the menu bar. I needed to > access an application in the status menus that I can't get to with the > keyboard, so I turned on mouse keys and tried to get the mouse pointer there, > however, when pressing control option F5 to read what is under the mouse, > voiceover does not read the item. The command works fine if the mouse is in a > window or on the desktop, but when the mouse pointer is on anything in the > menu bar, this command does not read. If you press it again, it reads the > position of the pointer, but the first press of the command to read the item > does not work. Does anyone notice this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Setting up an automation with Automator...
Hello David, Apple has hidden the User's Library folder by default in Lion. You can use one of the suggestions in the following cnet article to either unhide the folder using a terminal command or use the finder to go directly to the folder without unhiding it. http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20082044-263/os-x-lion-where-did-my-library-go/ HTH, Bryan On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:02 AM, David Hole wrote: > In Lion the Library-folder in my user has disappeared, so now I can't > save my automation service in my own library... Where is it? Have > apple hidden it, or? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: favorites bar in lion mail
Hello Paul, Whichever mailbox is reported as "checked" is the mailbox you will find when you navigate to your message list. I believe the checkboxes on Mail's Favorites bar would actually be better described as radio buttons because you can only have one selected at a time. You'll notice if you navigate between the items on the favorites bar, pressing VO+spacebar on one item will "uncheck" whichever other item was previously "checked.". Regarding your second question: Yes, one of the functions of the favorites bar is to allow access to mailboxes if the mailbox list is closed. In addition, it also provides a nice set of shortcuts to selected mailboxes via the Command+1,2,3,etc keystrokes. The favorites bar can be used whether the mailbox list is opened or closed. HTH, Bryan On Aug 5, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: > In the favorites bar that Teresa wrote about in Lion mail, there are > checkboxes in front of the mailboxes I see there. What do these do? Also, am > I correct in assuming that the favorites bar is there, so that one can switch > mailboxes, even though the list of mailboxes is not opened? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Google Chrome Web Browser
Hello Kevin, I'm currently running Chrome 13.0.782.109 beta on Lion. It has some flaws but is mostly accessible and doesn't suffer from the VO lag still present in Opera. I still do most of my surfing in the nightly builds of Webkit, but when I come across an issue on a particular page I appreciate now having Chrome as a useable alternative to help with troubleshooting. Sorry I don't have time to write a more detailed report at the moment, but I'll try later. I highly recommend giving the chrome 13 beta a whirl, and if you're like me and don't mind tweaking and troubleshooting, you might want to give the "Canary" version a try. It's their bleeding edge build and can be installed and run side-by-side without screwing up other settings. HTH, Bryan On Aug 6, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > Please, I would like to know if OS X Lion Voiceover users have tried > Google Chrome web browser? If so, what are people's experience with > it, especially the accessibility or inaccessibility of it. If there > are features or aspects that are very accessible or inaccessible, > please do share those details. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Google Chrome Web Browser
Hello Oriol, Go to www.webkit.org for a thorough explanation and download links for Webkit. My quick and dirty definition is Webkit is the base upon which Safari, Chrome and several other browsers are built. When folks are having problems with Apple's Safari browser, it is often recommended they try running Webkit as it receives updates almost nightly where Safari's updates tend to be distributed by Apple less frequently. Webkit can be installed and run in parallel with Safari. HTH, Bryan On Aug 6, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Oriol Gómez wrote: > What is webkit? :S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Where to use VO+Shift+J [Was, Re: What's a Menu Pop-up Link?]
Hello Teresa, I can try to answer your question regarding the use of VO+Shift+J to navigate pop-up items in Lion. First let me say that I'm still not sure I have this feature totally figured out myself, but hopefully this will make sense and will shed at least some light on the feature. To start with, here's the official one line definition from Apple's Lion VO quick start guide just in case you haven't seen it yet: "Jump from the current location to any displayed input method or auto correction panel, and then jump back to the original location." . Here's what I've found while trying to figure this feature out in more detail. I forget if you have n i-Device, but if you do you might recognize a small "blip" sound that is sometimes made in IOS when a popup list of spelling corrections is presented. Lion now has the ability to mimic that same behavior and the same sound when a misspelling is encountered. When you hear that sound, you can press VO+Shift+J and the VO cursor will move to the pop-up list of spelling choices where you can then use VO+left / right arrow to navigate the choices and VO will read them to you. While you are navigating that list, VO will speak the currently highlighted word, will tell you the number of possible choices in the list, and if you let the VO cursor sit on a highlighted word for a second it will spell the selection out loud. As an example, if I misspell the word "the" as "ths" I will hear the little blip sound and VO will announce "six suggested corrections." If I then press VO+Shift+J VO will announce, "the, suggested correction one of six, t-h-e." If I then proceed to VO-right arrow I will hear the same thing repeated for the other suggested words in the list: "the, this, thus, these, and those." When I've highlighted the word I want to use, I can press Enter and it will replace the misspelled word. Now, here are a few things I still haven't figured out about this feature. 1. I'm not sure exactly what options need to be turned on or off for this to work in Lion, but I'm pretty sure the "Correct Spelling Automatically" feature needs to be turned on either globally or in the current application. For example, while I'm typing this message in Mail, the feature is working if I have "Correct Spelling Automatically" checked in Mail's Edit menu / Spelling and Grammar. However, if I uncheck that option the spelling popup and associated blip don't seem to appear. Note that I have "correct spelling automatically" unchecked in System Prefs / Language and Text / Text. 2. Sometimes the blip and popup will happen before I finish typing a word, as if it's acting as a sort of auto-complete feature. 3. Sometimes I can misspell a word and nothing happens, but if I left arrow back to the word I will then hear the blip and get the popup. It almost seems like I'm typing too fast for the spell checker to keep up, but I guarantee you I type slow enough for a turtle to easily keep up. . 4. I'm not sure if VO+Shift+J gives access to any other sort of popup. I haven't found any yet, but also haven't really looked around much. If you have any questions or thoughts about this, please email me off-list as I'm unsubscribing. HTH, Bryan On Aug 6, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Perhaps a related question: I notice that the keystroke VO-shift-J will "go > to pop-up item". I can't for the life of me find an example of a context in > which to use this particular command. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Accessible Web Design software?
Hi Folks - I've been lurking here and on the iphone list for a while and appreciate all the great info & discussions that pass through here. I have my first big question for this group. Can anybody recommend a good, easy to learn, accessible web design software package? I'm a beginner at web design and am thinking I want to build a basic web site to host some links, a blog, some pictures and/or videos, and maybe some of my songs. I'd like the program to play well with voiceover of course, and would also like it to generate web pages that are accessible to others out of the box or that only require minor modification as I'm not HTML literate yet. I have iWeb 09 on my Mac and would naturally like to use it but I thought I'd better put the question out here in case any of you have already done the homework and discovered which program or programs are actually accessible. Any input greatly appreciated, Thank you, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Vision Australia VO tutorials Won't Play on my Mac?
I am having mixed results on my macbook running 10.6.4 with the latest webkit. The first podcast, named "Accessibility out of the box audio presentation" launched and ran OK in webkit after a short delay. The second podcast, names "VoiceOver voices audio samples" did not play directly in webkit. However, I then had a sighted person right-click the second podcast and open it in itunes and it started playing in itunes after I waited 10 seconds. A few more tracks played OK this way. HTH, Bryan On Jul 24, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Jim Fettgather wrote: > I am also a bit surprised, I am running Snow Leopard with all software > updates applied, and Vision Australia's MP3's don't play in Safari, Safari 5. > Other sites, like BlindCoolTech play just fine. > Thanks. > > > > On 7/24/2010 11:43 AM, Allison Manzino wrote: >> Hi Al, >> >> I just tried it on Safari and it worked. I wonder if updating to the newest >> version of Snow Leopard helps. I updated to the latest version I think. I >> hope that helps. >> >> Allison >> >> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! >> >> >> On Jul 24, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Allison, >>> Yep, tried Webkit as well as Safari. Let me know if they still work for you. >>> Once I couldn't get those to work, went over to blindcooltech.com, and was >>> able to play files there without any problems, shrug. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Manzino >>> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:14 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Vision Australia VO tutorials Won't Play on my Mac? >>> >>> Hi Al, >>> >>> THis is probably a dumb solution, but have you tried it with Webkit? I can >>> play them fine, or at least I used to be able to. I haven't tried it since >>> Safari 5 came out. I will see if I can get these to play. >>> >>> Allison >>> >>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! >>> >>> >>> On Jul 24, 2010, at 12:03 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: >>> >>> Many of you may already be aware of these, but Vision Australia has posted some very well done Vo Tutorial MP3s at: http://www.visionaustralia.org/info.aspx?page=2296 Ironically, I can play these files with no problem whatsoever under Windows, but in Safari, when I click on any of the links, audio never starts. The player window pops up and I can access all the controls. Pressing Play causes the play button to become the pause button, but the audio timer never increments and I don't hear anything. At first, I thought something was wrong with my settings, but I am able to play audio on other pages with no problem. Any ideas as to what is going on would be appreciated. Thanks, --Al -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Trackpad
I just called my local Best Buy in Downingtown, PA. That store is one of the ones with the special little "apple store" inside. They told me they do not have it in stock and it is not yet in their system. -Bryan On Jul 27, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: > Mary, > > I bought it from the apple store. As for its availability in other places, > I'd suspect it will be but it may be a little more delayed. I'd just give > your local store a call and see what they say. > > Kev > On Jul 27, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > >> Hi Kev, >> Did you get the magic Track Pad at the Apple store? Or are they available at >> other places as well? It sounds intriguing. >> >> Mary >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: DVS Movies in itunes Store
Hi Kevin - I've also been wondering about where to find DVS movies. The only DVS movie I was able to locate in the US itunes store is the animated film, "UP." It is available for purchase only, not for rent, and costs $14.99. I posted the question to the viphone list but haven't received any legitimate leads yet. I also spoke with a Netflix rep who wasn't able to find any DVS movies but said he would enter a request to add DVS movies and/or add a search function to the Netflix site for this option. Bryan On Aug 1, 2010, at 11:42 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: > HI there, > > Does anyone know if there are movies in the iTunes store that come with > descriptive video? Is there a way to tell or activate this feature with a > downloaded movie? Is there a way to search the store for movies with DVS > specifically. > > If there are described movies available, then I'm going to have a rather busy > August. > > Kevin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: trackpads
Try downloading the linked mp3 and playing it in itunes or some other media player. A number of folks, including myself, have reported trouble playing the visionaustralia podcasts directly within safari. Bryan On Aug 2, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: > the link sucks. I can't hear it but who knows, maybe it is my brain... > > Kev > On Aug 2, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Google is your friend. >> >> You can activate the keyboard help by pressing VO + K and then simply start >> trying different gestures. >> >> You can also listen to this: >> >> http://www.visionaustralia.org/docs/atpodcasts/using%20VoiceOver%20gestures%20on%20the%20multi-touch%20trackpad.mp3 >> >> cHRIS >> On 2 Aug 2010, at 21:55, Kevin Mattingly wrote: >> >>> OK, I got the Magic trackpad today. its awesome so far. Is there a quick >>> reference for the gestures? >>> >>> Kev >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you perform a command click on the multi gesture trackpad?
Hi RIcardo - I'm not sure if this will help with your command-click questions, but to enable the standard secondary click I needed to go into the Trackpad Utility in System Preferences and make a few changes from the default settings. There are a couple of options with regard to the "Secondary Click" and "Secondary Tap" and I'll explain them here as best I can. This assumes you have the Trackpad utility in your System Preferences. If you don't have it, make sure to run software update to install it. Secondary Click: This option allows you to perform a secondary click by placing a finger on either the bottom right or bottom left front edge of the trackpad and pressing down until you hear or feel the trackpad click. To enable the Secondary Click, open the Trackpad utility in System Preferences, then navigate through the One Finger options and you will find a checkbox for "Secondary Click." To the right of this checkbox there is a popup button where you select either "bottom right corner" or "bottom left corner" to specify where your finger must be placed when performing the click. Secondary Tap: This option allows you to tap two fingers anywhere on the trackpad to perform a secondary click. To enable the Secondary Tap, navigate through the Two Finger options in the Trackpad Utility. Note that the "Tap to Click" checkbox located in the One Finger options must also be checked for the Secondary Tap to work. HTH, Bryan On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hmm, > > When I held down 2 fingers I didn't get a click. > On Aug 4, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Daniel Rowe wrote: > >> Secondary clicking is Mac speak for right clicking, like to open up a >> contextual menu. Press down on the trackpad with 2 fingers til it clicks. >> >> Dannie >> >> On 4 Aug 2010, at 07:20, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Lol, >>> >>> We are wondering the same thing. I haven't a clue what it means or, how to >>> do it. If you find out before I do please post. :) >>> >>> tia >>> On Aug 4, 2010, at 1:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> Along with the questions about how to perform command click etc, what is a secondary click? I saw it referenced and haven't a clue what it might be. mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you perform a command click on the multi gesture trackpad?
Hi Mary - I think you may be right. I haven't had a chance to figure out all the options and ins-and-outs of the magic trackpad yet, but I'll post anything interesting if/when I find it. Cheers, Bryan On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > I hope I'm not being dense, but what are the secondary click and secondary > tap used for, i.e. can somone present a situation when you would use them? > TIA, > Donna > On Aug 5, 2010, at 6:47 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Thanks to all. I got it figured out now. >> On Aug 5, 2010, at 5:16 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >>> Hi RIcardo - I'm not sure if this will help with your command-click >>> questions, but to enable the standard secondary click I needed to go into >>> the Trackpad Utility in System Preferences and make a few changes from the >>> default settings. There are a couple of options with regard to the >>> "Secondary Click" and "Secondary Tap" and I'll explain them here as best I >>> can. This assumes you have the Trackpad utility in your System Preferences. >>> If you don't have it, make sure to run software update to install it. >>> >>> Secondary Click: This option allows you to perform a secondary click by >>> placing a finger on either the bottom right or bottom left front edge of >>> the trackpad and pressing down until you hear or feel the trackpad click. >>> To enable the Secondary Click, open the Trackpad utility in System >>> Preferences, then navigate through the One Finger options and you will find >>> a checkbox for "Secondary Click." To the right of this checkbox there is a >>> popup button where you select either "bottom right corner" or "bottom left >>> corner" to specify where your finger must be placed when performing the >>> click. >>> >>> Secondary Tap: This option allows you to tap two fingers anywhere on the >>> trackpad to perform a secondary click. To enable the Secondary Tap, >>> navigate through the Two Finger options in the Trackpad Utility. Note that >>> the "Tap to Click" checkbox located in the One Finger options must also be >>> checked for the Secondary Tap to work. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Bryan >>> >>> On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>>> Hmm, >>>> >>>> When I held down 2 fingers I didn't get a click. >>>> On Aug 4, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Daniel Rowe wrote: >>>> >>>>> Secondary clicking is Mac speak for right clicking, like to open up a >>>>> contextual menu. Press down on the trackpad with 2 fingers til it clicks. >>>>> >>>>> Dannie >>>>> >>>>> On 4 Aug 2010, at 07:20, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Lol, >>>>>> >>>>>> We are wondering the same thing. I haven't a clue what it means or, how >>>>>> to do it. If you find out before I do please post. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> tia >>>>>> On Aug 4, 2010, at 1:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Along with the questions about how to perform command click etc, what >>>>>>> is a secondary click? I saw it referenced and haven't a clue what it >>>>>>> might be. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Otten >>>>>>> motte...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>&g
Re: How do you perform a command click on the multi gesture trackpad?
Sorry - I replied to the wrong email last time. Hi Mary - I think you may be right. I haven't had a chance to figure out all the options and ins-and-outs of the magic trackpad yet, but I'll post anything interesting if/when I find it. Cheers, Bryan On Aug 5, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Thanks, Brian, for that info on the secondary click. It seems there would be > conflicts between secondary tap and track pad commander. Same for the two > finder single tap. > > Mary > > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you perform a command click on the multi gesture trackpad?
Hi Donna - I believe the secondary click and secondary tap are just 2 methods of emulating, on the trackpad, the control-click of a single button mouse or the right-click of a multi button mouse. I'm not sure what all it can be used for, but I know it will open a context menu for an item, similar to pressing VO-Shift-m. Bryan On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > I hope I'm not being dense, but what are the secondary click and secondary > tap used for, i.e. can somone present a situation when you would use them? > TIA, > Donna > On Aug 5, 2010, at 6:47 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Thanks to all. I got it figured out now. >> On Aug 5, 2010, at 5:16 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >>> Hi RIcardo - I'm not sure if this will help with your command-click >>> questions, but to enable the standard secondary click I needed to go into >>> the Trackpad Utility in System Preferences and make a few changes from the >>> default settings. There are a couple of options with regard to the >>> "Secondary Click" and "Secondary Tap" and I'll explain them here as best I >>> can. This assumes you have the Trackpad utility in your System Preferences. >>> If you don't have it, make sure to run software update to install it. >>> >>> Secondary Click: This option allows you to perform a secondary click by >>> placing a finger on either the bottom right or bottom left front edge of >>> the trackpad and pressing down until you hear or feel the trackpad click. >>> To enable the Secondary Click, open the Trackpad utility in System >>> Preferences, then navigate through the One Finger options and you will find >>> a checkbox for "Secondary Click." To the right of this checkbox there is a >>> popup button where you select either "bottom right corner" or "bottom left >>> corner" to specify where your finger must be placed when performing the >>> click. >>> >>> Secondary Tap: This option allows you to tap two fingers anywhere on the >>> trackpad to perform a secondary click. To enable the Secondary Tap, >>> navigate through the Two Finger options in the Trackpad Utility. Note that >>> the "Tap to Click" checkbox located in the One Finger options must also be >>> checked for the Secondary Tap to work. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Bryan >>> >>> On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>>> Hmm, >>>> >>>> When I held down 2 fingers I didn't get a click. >>>> On Aug 4, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Daniel Rowe wrote: >>>> >>>>> Secondary clicking is Mac speak for right clicking, like to open up a >>>>> contextual menu. Press down on the trackpad with 2 fingers til it clicks. >>>>> >>>>> Dannie >>>>> >>>>> On 4 Aug 2010, at 07:20, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Lol, >>>>>> >>>>>> We are wondering the same thing. I haven't a clue what it means or, how >>>>>> to do it. If you find out before I do please post. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> tia >>>>>> On Aug 4, 2010, at 1:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Along with the questions about how to perform command click etc, what >>>>>>> is a secondary click? I saw it referenced and haven't a clue what it >>>>>>> might be. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary Otten >>>>>>> motte...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
Hi Geoff - A couple of thoughts. 1. Portability. If you have a macbook or macbook pro you will be able to use it anywhere: desk, couch, bed, porch, breakfast table, when traveling, etc. Perhaps this is not so important since you already have a portable computer in the form of the iphone, but I think it's something worth considering. 2. Purchase price. If you shop around you can probably save more than the 8% offered during your tax holiday. Personally, I now purchase my Macs through Apple's online refurbished store which is accessible from the store.apple.com page. They have the exact same warranty as a new Mac and the prices are usually a few hundred dollars cheaper. The stock in the refurb store seems to change nightly, so check often. Oddly, of the 4 macs I've owned in the last 12 years, the 2 that did not require warranty service in the first year of ownership were the 2 I purchased through Apple's refurb store. YMMV. Cheers, Bryan On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings y'all, > > For the benifit of those who don't hang out on the viPhone list, I recently > started assisting Cara Josh and Olivia with the management of this list. > Since I don't yet have a Mac until now I only read posts that Google > suspected of being spam. > > This weekend my state is exempting "back to school" items such as computers > from sales tax. I've been considering migrating to the Apple world for a > while and the 8% savings is tempting. > > I am a total, hence gaming is not a priority. I anticipate my primary uses > would be web surfing, email, playing/editing audio, and hopefully app > development. I therefore don't believe that processor speed and memory would > make a lot of difference, but perhaps more experienced Mac users can comment. > > With these assumptions in mind I'm considering either the 13 inch low end > MacBookPro (2.4 GHZ processor) for $1,200 or the Mac Mini for $800. Comparing > the specs it would appear that $400 would buy me a keyboard, 2GB extra > memory, a 13 inch display, fewer USB ports, an extra pound to cary around and > 70 GB less disk storage. > > I have a four year old USB display that I plug into my Dell desktop on those > rare occasions when I need sighted assistance. > > Okay, so at long last, here are my questions. Any input would be greatly > appreciated! > > 1. Considering my anticipated usage are my assumptions about memory and > processor speed accurate? If not, any details would be very helpful. > > 2. Will the Mac Mini work without a display? > > 3. I already own an Apple wireless keyboard. I assume this would work with > the Mini if I unpare it from my iPhone? > > TIA and best regards. > Geoff > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?
Al - There is a freeware utility named rightzoom that will change the behavior of the OSX "zoom" button/function to make it more closely mimic the Microsoft Windows maximize button/function. I use rightzoom because I personally prefer to have my current application window fill the screen completely, but the OSX zoom button was not designed to work that way. Once this utility is running and configured, you will be able to maximize most windows to fill the screen either by choosing Zoom from the Window menu, clicking the zoom button (with the plus sign on it) in the top left corner of the window, or sometimes by pressing command-option-z. Rightzoom is spelled as one word and you can find it with Google. You can configure a hot-key and define which applications you want the "maximize" behavior to apply to. I've had no problems with this utility, but as always YMMV. Also note that the term "zoom" has multiple meanings in OSX. This utility has nothing to do with the Zoom function found in Universal Access. Cheers, Bryan On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: > Hi Teresa, > Thanks for this. So now, the trick will be to get my head around the way the > zoom function works. Is a window just either zoomed or not zoomed? In other > words, can zoom be clicked more than once to obtain different levels? Also, > there is apparently a plus button in the upper left of the window, which I > thought was supposed to maximize or zoom it; However, when my sighted friend > clicked that button, she said that the window actually shrunk. Ah, the joys > of trying to comprehend visual concepts from a totally nonvisual > perspective. > > > > > --Al > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:40 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO? > > > Command-m is "minimize". There are various commands for zooming a window. Go > to the Window menu and find the command there. In some cases, you can press > command-option-z, but not all. The zoom option doesn't work quite the same > as maximizing in Windows OS. It takes up more of the screen, but you don't > always get the full-screen effect. Also, the text may not get any larger. > > Teresa > On Aug 10, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > >> You could just type command+M. If you want to do it with VoiceOver, then > VO+M then arrow over until you get to the Window menu, then arrow down once, > and that puts you on maximize. >> >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> Just wondering whether anyone can offer tips on how to determine whether > a window is maximized and if it is not, how to go about maximizing it? We > have an imac 24 here at work, and we were showing a webpage.. The page was > only occupying a part of the screen, and I had no idea how to make it full > screen using VO. >>> Thanks, >>> >>> --Al >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda >> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda >> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegrou
Re: vo settings are trashed
Yes, I think this has been happening to me lately in iTunes and Safari. I'll be working and Alex will be chattering away and all of a sudden he'll get quiet, then after a few seconds VO announces "VoiceOver On." I haven't gotten proficient enough with VO to do any real customization, so I can't say if it is resetting to defaults. I have a Macbook 2.4, Snow Leopard with all patches. Also using Apple BT keyboard & Magic trackpad. I don't recall when it started happening to me, but I've had this vague feeling that things haven't been quite right since applying the 10.6.4 update. Bryan On Aug 25, 2010, at 11:43 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > Right, I am one extraordinarily irritated individual now. I was just > computing along, minding my own business, when all of a sudden voiceover > turned off then back on, and had reverted to all the default settings. This > is the fourth or fifth time it's happened to me in the last couple of months, > and it has officially become a bother. I'm using a 2.4 ghz macbook pro > running the latest snow leopard with all updates. > > Is any one else having this problem and is there anything to be done about it? > > Thanks, > > Erik Burggraaf > Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. > Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and > subscribe. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Need Mac User's advice on which Windows screen reader to purchase and learn
I realize the question might sound strange and even off-topic, but I really want to hear this advice from fellow Mac and VO Users. When I last used Windows I was able to get by with a screen magnifier and didn't use a screen reader. By the time I needed to start using a screen reader I had already moved to the Mac full time so VO was the natural choice. Now I'm being required to start using Windows again, along with Office 2007 and Internet Explorer 8 and I'm not sure which Windows screen reader I should invest my time and money to learn, or if one of them is more like VO than the others. I will be running either XP or Windows 7 under Fusion. Please send your replies directly to me off-list as this probably isn't a thread that needs to grow here. I would be grateful for your thoughts on the following questions: 1. I've heard of Jaws, Window-Eyes, System Access, and NVDA. Any others I should consider? 2. Is there a Windows screen reader that works like VO? 3. Is there one Windows screen reader that is easier to learn than the others? 4. I was intimately familiar with XP but don't know Windows 7 at all. Are they similar enough that I should get Windows 7, or should I try to get XP so that I don't have to learn a new operating system along with the new screen reader? 5. I will probably only need to use Windows for the next 2 years and most of my work will still be done on the Mac. Given this limited time frame, is one of the Windows screen readers less expensive to own over that time period? TIA for any assistance, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
Does anybody know if Microsoft has an email address for their accessibility team like Apple does with their accessibil...@apple.com address? I'd be interested to ask Microsoft if the forthcoming Office 2011 for Mac has been redesigned to work with VO. Thank you, Bryan On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > Dear List, > I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO > doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds > show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every > employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, > ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and > outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every > single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- > go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main > task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on > its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add > up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect > badly on our capabilities. > > I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I > propose we band together, and really push for this to happen > collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all > the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I > frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - > they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on > other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted > people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, > which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and > could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as > an interesting technology for all. > > Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't > understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the > thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part > of mainstream technology. > > In solidarity, > cathyk > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Any Solid State Drive users here?
Folks - If you have an SSD (solid state hard drive) in your Mac, would you mind telling me about your experience with the performance of VoiceOver and other day-to-day functions? I'm in the market for a larger hard drive for my macbook and am considering an SSD or maybe purchasing a new or refurbished Mac with an SSD. TIA, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Closing the lid of the MBP while it remains active.
Hi Kimberly - I usually work with my macbook closed, but I have an external monitor attached. When I'm done working I will put it to sleep by pressing Command + Option + Eject on my external apple bluetooth keyboard, and when I want to wake it up I will just press the Control key on the bluetooth keyboard. I don't have any special settings in place for this, but when I tried to do it with no monitor attached it didn't seem to wake up, so I'm not sure if it can be done without an external monitor. Note that I am currently using a first generation aluminum macbook, not a macbook pro, so YMMV. Bryan On Sep 17, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > HI folks: > > As the subject line says, Is it possible to change a setting on the MBP to > allow it to remain on with the lid closed? I just got a bluetooth keyboard > and want to know if I can close the lid and leave the MBP on the table while > I use the BT keyboard. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone speaker phone
Hi Christy -- I'm assuming you have an iphone 4 and are experiencing the well-known proximity sensor issue. If your phone is a 3GS I don't know if the following information will help. We've had an ongoing discussion about this issue on the viphone list. For some folks the 4.1 update seems to have resolved the issue, but for others it has not. For myself, the 4.1 update alone did not change the issue one bit; however, after doing some further research and performing 3 additional troubleshooting steps I now only experience the issue on approximately 1 out of 10 phone calls. Note that these troubleshooting steps do not work for everyone, and you might be best off exchanging your phone at the point of purchase to see if that helps. Even then, some folks are still experiencing the issue even after a hardware exchange. If you haven't already tried the following troubleshooting steps, I would suggest trying them in order, one at a time, and making test phone calls after each step. With step 2 you will want to repeat it at least twice before making your test phone calls. Be careful with step 3. It will reset many of your settings, including VO and triple-click home settings and you might need sighted assistance to get them back as there are reports that the VO checkbox in itunes does not always work to turn VO back on. Also, be sure to remove your iphone's case before making your test calls. Apparently the proximity sensor was moved from the side of the earpiece on the 3GS to the thin strip between the earpiece and the top edge of the phone on the iphone 4, so improperly designed cases are more likely to interfere with the sensor. > Proximity Sensor Troubleshooting step 1. Cycle the power: To cycle the power, > press and hold the sleep/wake button until VO prompts you to "slide or > double-tap." Release the buttons and perform the double-tap to shut off the > phone. Wait 30 seconds and then power on by pressing the sleep/wake button. > > Proximity Sensor Troubleshooting step 2. Performed a "hard reset." To perform > a hard reset, press and hold the home and sleep/wake buttons simultaneously > for 10 seconds. Ignore the VO prompt to "slide or double-tap," just keep > holding the buttons down and after about 10 seconds the iphone will restart, > I'm not sure exactly what gets done during this reset, but I think it clears > RAM and clears some caches. It did not remove any of my settings or data. > Some folks say you must perform the hard reset twice in order for it to do > whatever its supposed to be doing. > > Proximity Sensor Troubleshooting step 3. Perform a settings reset. Go to > Settings / General / Reset / Reset All Settings. This reset does not remove > data, but it does reset a bunch of your settings, including VO and > triple-click home settings, so if you are going to try this one make sure you > know how to get VO back. > Good luck, Bryan On Sep 19, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Christy Schulte wrote: > > So, I read somewhere that the new update was supposed to help with this, but > it really didn't with mine and I'm wondering if anyone has any advice. > > When I'm on a call with my iphone, the crazy thing seems to switch in and out > of speaker phone rather often. Sometimes, if I sit very, very still I can get > it to stay on the normal mode, which is really rather annoying to have to do > that, but sometimes even that doesn't work. It doesn't matter how close I > hold it to my face, it still does it, and it happens whether or not I have > the case on. Not only is this frustrating for the fact that switching back > and forth cuts out part of the conversation, but it also means I'm sometimes > hitting the active screen with my face. > > Is there any solution to this? Does anyone know where the sensor is, perhaps > if I be sure to put a finger near that when I want it on normal mode? I > really wish there was a button or switch to get in and out of speaker mode > rather than a buggy auto detect thing. > > Thanks! > Christy > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: strange problem with my MPB15
Hi Mark -- Can you tell us the year and model of your macbook pro? On most models the RAM is relatively easy to access and we might be able to do some standard troubleshooting steps such as reseating the RAM modules. Of course, if your book is still under warranty and you live near an apple store or authorized service dealer you might want to get it in their hands instead. Bryan On Sep 21, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > No technical reason; I lost my disks on a recent move and Leopard is what I > have for the moment until I get new ones. Apple Cares cannot, it seems, find > me in their base. I found an article at support.apple.com which claims that > three successive beeps, a five second pause and three successive beeps means, > "RAM did not pass data integrity check." Apparently, I have a faulty RAM > chip somewhere. I have NO clue what to do about this, as I've never had to > take this MBP15 apart. I guess it can happen at amy moment with no warning, > depending on when that particular RAM is addressed. I'm confused as to how > to fix it. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
3 Questions for Snow Leopard Server Users
Hi Listers -- If you're using SL Server as either a server or client OS would you mind answering the following 3 quick questions? I've done lots of research on this and read the literature, but am looking for some feedback from folks with real-world experience. 1. Using VO, are you able to access all functions of SL Server from the server console? (not a remote session) 2. Have you been able to install and run the same apps on SL server that you would run on SL Client? 3. If you're using SL Server as your client OS, do you experience any problems due to the fact that it is a server OS? For example, is it slower due to additional services running? TIA, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VirusBarrier X6
Ray Foret Jr wrote: > The question I have is this. Since we're using Macs, do we really need anti > virus of any sourt? I've never felt the need of it, but, I would like to > hear other views on this matter and why. Hi Ray - I'm of the opinion that computers running OSX should at least have some form of basic malware protection, and preferably a full suite of security tools. If you'd like to hear my reasons, please contact me off-list. There is a decent, free, VO accessible, multi-language, open source anti-malware program for the Mac called ClamXav. It uses the same open source ClamAV anti-malware engine Apple supplies with OSX Server. Itt does not offer all the bells and whistles of Virusbarrier, but it will supply at least a minimal level of protection with regular malware signature updates at no cost. It can be downloaded from www.clamxav.com HTH, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: free antivirus for mac
IMHO it all boils down to the last line in the referenced article. That line is, "No system is totally safe, but Macs have a lot of architecture working in their favor." Wen somebody tells me my system is not "totally safe" then I'm the type of person who is willing to spend a little time, energy and maybe money to move my system closer to being totally safe. Any computer and any O S is subject to misuse. While the security holes, malware and attacks targeting OSX are well documented, it is important to remember that security involves much more than preventing malware attacks. OSX and the products running on it are not immune to the malicious web sites, phishing emails, remote access to unsecured systems and numerous other malicious goodies floating around. Also remember that OSX incorporates many open source components whose code is publicly available for perusal. And if you're in the "open source is safer" crowd, then we also have plenty of closed source products with versions running on OSX which are frequent targets of bad guys. Like it or not, there are good reasons why developers invest time and money to produce software to enhance the level of protection built into OSX. 3rd party security products for OSX such as Little Snitch, ClamXav and TrueCrypt all exist to fill important holes left open in the current version of OSX. Bryan On Oct 31, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been watching these virus protection threads for a while and still ask > the question: > > • What makes you feel the need to have such an animal on your Mac? > > There are really no virus threats within MacOS X. There were a number of > them in OS 9 but most of you, if running Snow Leopard, don't have any OS 9 > matter on your computer anyway as Classic is no longer supported. There is > the argument that you may unintentionally pass things on as you forward > eMails from Windows users but that can be easily managed by watching what's > attached to the messages you pass on. check out this article for your own > interpretation: > > http://www.silvermac.com/2008/why-there-are-no-viruses-for-osx/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
A Question for Musicians on the list
Folks -- I'm interested in learning to connect my guitar, banjo & keyboard to my mac and then learning how to record and edit music. I've researched and read lots of info on the web but have a couple of questions for any of you folks who are really using this stuff to make music. 1. I'm probably going to purchase the m box mini 3rd generation. Does anybody here have experience and feedback to offer regarding the mbox devices? 2. The m box mini comes with Protools L E, is Protools L E accessible using VO? 3. Does Protools L E offer anything of value beyond Garageband 6 (aka garageband 11) which I already own? Thank you in advance, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Headless Mac Minis [Was: Re: iMac VS Mac Mini]
I thought the issue where a Mac Mini required a monitor in order to function properly only applied to the 2009 Mac Minis, aka "Macmini3,1." I recently purchased a mid-2010 Mac Mini aka "Macmini4,1" and have no problems running it headless. I also have an older 2007-2008 Mini, aka "Macmini2,1" and it runs headless without issue. Are other folks here getting different results? Bryan On Nov 5, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > You do need a monitor for the mini. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iphone 4g and 3gs
Hi Allison, I'm in the US and also prefer to use the Australian voice; however, I have no problems with the default weather app. Can you supply some details about what isn't working for you? I have an iphone 4 with IOS 4.1, but I think we have the same voice engine and default weather app on both models. Thank you, Bryan On Nov 7, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: > Hi Mark, > > I have my Iphone 3GS set to use Karen who is the Australian voice. The other > app that doesn't work whe it is set that way is the weather. It thinks you > are in Australia, so if you are in the u.S., this app will not work unless > you use the -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magnification:
Hi Louie, The magnification feature built into OSX is called "Zoom." You can turn Zoom on in System Preferences / Universal Access, or use the following key combinations: To toggle Zoom on and off, press Command + Option + 8 To zoom in, press Command + Option + = To zoom out, press Command + Option + - For contrast options, you can also toggle the screen between what Apple calls "White on Black" and "Black on White" by pressing Command + Option + Control + 8. Note that all of these can be used in conjunction with VoiceOver on the Mac, while on the i-devices you are currently limited to using either VO or Zoom, not both together unfortunately. HTH, Bryan On Nov 8, 2010, at 3:02 PM, louie wrote: > Hi all, > My oldest daughter is coming to be with me this sumer. > She is low vision and uses Magnification software on her PC. > She want to see Magnification on a Mac. > How do I turn Magnification on? > Thank you for any help. > > louie > louiem...@wavecable.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Oh boy
Hi Sarai, Sounds like a fun time. If you do consider mounting an iMac on your wall, here are a couple of things I learned about the process: 1. Regardless of the wall mount you choose, you will need to purchase Apple's VESA mounting adapter kit for the iMac. I think it currently costs around US $30. I used to have Apple's 24 inch LED display and found it pretty simple to remove the existing stand and install the VESA adapter. The adapter kit included the tools necessary to remove the existing stand and attach the VESA adapter. 2. If at a future time you decide to remove the iMac from the wall and put it on a desk, it is pretty simple to remove the VESA adapter and re-install the original imac stand. 3. The current model of the smaller 21.5 inch iMac does not have the same VESA mounting capabilities found in the larger 27 inch iMac model. Apparently it is not possible to remove the existing stand from the 21.5 inch model without performing major warranty-voiding iMac surgery. I think there is a 3rd party vendor who sells a wall mounting kit for the 21.5 inch iMac that works with the existing stand still attached. HTH, Bryan On Nov 16, 2010, at 11:06 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > I just got back from Mac class. I got my hands on n iPod Nano, and a 27 inch > iMac. I'm drooling. Both are so beautiful! I was told you can mount the iMac > on a wall like an LCD tv. Not bad! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Behavior of macbook when lid is closed.
Hi Ricardo - The only way I was ever able to get my macbook or mbp to stay awake with the lid closed was to have an external monitor attached. When I did that, it worked great and I could access everything, put it to sleep, wake it up and restart it using the external USB keyboard, but whenever I tried it without an external monitor attached it would awake for a couple of seconds and then go right back to sleep. The last macbook I had was a late 2008 aluminum model, so maybe things have changed for the better on the newer models, I don't know. HTH, Bryan On Nov 18, 2010, at 6:57 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > When closing the lid of my Macbook pro, the computer automatically goes to > sleep. Is there a way to change this behavior? I've looked in the display > and energy savor settings and didn't find anything. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Today's Safari update says it includes "Improved stability when using VoiceOver with Safari."
FYI - Today Apple released version 5.0.3 of Safari. The last bullet in the list of "improvements" is "Improved stability when using VoiceOver with Safari." In the US the download is available via the standard software update procedure: Apple Menu / Software Update. The install required a restart of my mid 2010 Mac Mini running 10.6.5 in order to complete. HTH, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mobile Me
Hi Neil - I had the same problem with my mobileme account login on my mac and for me the issue was resolved by clicking on the item labelled "underline button" rather than clicking on either of the items labeled "sign in" and "sign in to mobileme." Here's a more detailed description of what I hear on the login page: As I VO + Right Arrow through the login fields, I hear the following nine elements: "Clickable edit text blank," "Member Name clickable," "clickable secure edit text," "Password clickable," "unchecked checkbox," "keep me signed in for 2 weeks," "underline button," "sign in clickable," "sign in to mobileme clickable." When I clicked on either of the last 2 "clickable" items nothing happened, so I went back to the item labeled "underline button" and when I clicked on that it logged me in. HTH, Bryan On Nov 19, 2010, at 5:01 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm trying to log in to my Mobile Me account to administrate it, but am > having quite a few issues. > > I have been able to setup a demonstration account, as this is done through > the Apple computer setup process at the very start, and I'm happy with the > service, and using it quite nicely on my iPhone and two Mac's. > > But now that I am wishing to administrate the account I visit www.me.com from > Safari and just cannot seem to navigate the page, I enter my user details > into what I feel are the correct fields but nothing happens when I press sign > in. > > anyone had any success with this or know of a work around? > > also, I tried to do this from my iPhone, thinking it might work better, but > when you visit me.com from your iPhone, you are directed to a iPhone adapted > site which seems to have no actual log in button. > > also anyone got any ideas about this? > > kind regards. > > Neil Barnfather. > www.talknav.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Altered VoiceOver Behavior in the New Safari
Hi Les - Can you explain a little further about the issue you're having when trying to shut down using the Command + Option + Control + Eject keystroke? I'm not having the Safari issues you mentioned, but I began to experience a similar issue after applying the 10.6.5 upgrade to my mid 2010 mac mini with Apple USB keyboard. I often use the Command + Option + Eject keystroke to put my Mac to sleep, but after the update it seems to require pressing the keystroke twice before the Mac will go to sleep. It's a minot annoyance, but thought maybe we could compare notes. THanks, Bryan On Nov 20, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: > I've re-booted with no positive impact. I've reset my basic settings from > the VO Utilities Menu, but the Vo keys are still not working in Safari. I've > also had some difficulty shutting down my system using command VO Eject. I > know I can reset all settings, but I'm uncertain if that will matter at this > point? > > Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Maximizing Windows?
I like the free utility called right zoom. It changes the zooming behavior to mimic the maximize behavior of MS windows. HTH, Bryan Sent from my iPhone? On Dec 9, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Dan Roy wrote: > I was working with my wife who is fully sighted. I was trying to get her to > visually describe some images on a site. She was continuously frustrated > because, Finder was covering up most of the web sites window. She couldn't > figure out what to do about that. Meanwhile, VO was performing just fine and > I had no problems reading the page. So, is there a way to maximize the > safari window. I have been through the Safari menus and there doesn't seem > to be a way to do this from the keyboard. I am obviously missing something. > > Also, on a related note. Has anyone experienced having windows or dialogues > opened that VO doesn't acknowledge. My wife was telling me about a dialogue > that was up for force quitting an application. I had done that a few days > ago, and, the application did close. However, apparently, the dialogue was > still lingering. VO didn't acknowledge this and, command-tabbing through the > various opened windows didn't find it either. Any suggestions? > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: differences between I pad and I pod touch?
Hi Caitlyn, Here are 3 differences off the top of my head: 1. You can purchase an ipad that comes with 3G wireless. 2. If you get the 3G ipad you also get GPS built in. I don't believe you can get either of those built into the ipod touch. 3. You can run a true word processor and spreadsheet on the ipad in the form of iWorks. HTH, Bryan On Dec 16, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Caitlyn and Nicky wrote: > Hi, > > My husband wants me to ask what the differences are between the I pad and the > I pod touch. > > As far as I can see, the only difference is the size. Is this so, and if > not, what are the others? > > Thanks, > Caitlyn > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: differences between I pad and I pod touch?
Hi Teresa, I'm not sure if you're in the US, but the ipad 3G does not require a data plan in the US. It is somewhat progressive in it's handling of 3G data usage in that there is no contract and you can start and stop and restart your 3G data on a monthly basis directly from the ipad with no penalties. You can pay US $15 per month for 200 MB of data or US $25 per month for 2 GB of data, or pay nothing if and when you don't need 3G wireless. HTH, Bryan On Dec 16, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I appreciate this discussion, because I'm considering between them as well. I > want something that allows me to read email and do a bit of googling and > such, so I am leaning toward the Ipod Touch. I also don't necessarily want a > data plan. > > Teresa > On Dec 16, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Scott Granados wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Using new Mac Mini without a display connectedn
Hi Vaughn, I had the same positive experience you mentioned when I first set up my mid-2010 Mac Mini, but at some point I started to have the VO issues that other folks have mentioned regarding the previous generation of Mini. I then connected a monitor using the included HDMI to DVI converter and the problem went away. I'm not sure exactly when the VO slowness started. It might have been after the 10.6.5 update, but not positive. I'm wondering what might be different between your mini and mine. Can you tell me what Mini model you have, what keyboard/mouse you're using, what other peripherals you have connected, and what OS version you have? I've got the Mini 2.66 "server" version running 10.6.5 client, not server. I use the Apple USB extended keyboard, bluetooth magic trackpad, a wi-fi connection and a Samsung USB DVD multi drive. Thank you, Bryan On Dec 28, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote: > When I set up my mac mini, I had nothing connected, not even a pair of > headphones. There was some talk of the previous version needing a display, > but the latest version doesn't. > > Vaughn. > On 28/12/2010, at 12:33 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> You need to have a monitor connected, though it doesn't have to be turned >> on, I don't think just connecting a cable will suffice, but not totally >> positive on that. >> On Dec 27, 2010, at 12:34 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: >> >>> I just got a brand-new Mac Mini and I've been told that a blind user >>> can use a Mac Mini without an actual monitor connected, provided that >>> there is a cable connected to the display port. Is that really true? >>> If you've never used the mini before? Does that work when you first >>> fire up the Mac Mini brand new from the store? >>> Thanks, >>> Kevin, a new Mac owner. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: garage band nitty-gritty little things i keep misunderstanding
Hi Ricardo, I would also be interested in hearing a basic audio tutorial if you were to create one. Like Oriol, I too get overwhelmed each time I think of jumping into GarageBand. Thank you, Bryan > On 12/30/10, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> I can create a basic audio tutorial if enough people are interested. Let me >> know. >> hth >> Ricardo Walker -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Forwarding Text Messages Using The I Phone.
Hi Kawal, 1. While in the message thread, double-tap the "Edit" button in the top right corner of the screen. 2. Swipe through the messages in the thread and next to each message you will hear, "Select, switch button off." 3. Double-tap to toggle the switch button on. You can select as many messages in the thread as you like. 4. Swipe or slide your finger to the bottom right corner where you will find the "Forward" button. 5. Double-tap the "Forward" button and your selected message(s) will open in a new window with the cursor in the "To" field and the keyboard open. You can now proceed to add new recipients and a new message and then send as you normally would. HTH, Bryan On Jan 5, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hi. > > Can someone tell me how to forward text messages using an I phone 4 please? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The Fine Art of Trackpad Control
Hi Zack, Sounds like you've got the right idea. Are you getting results from any other gestures on the trackpad, such as swiping left or right? Did you turn on the Trackpad Commander in your VoiceOver Utility / Commanders screen? Are you using the external Magic Trackpad, or is it the built-in trackpad of a macbook? Cheers, Bryan > On Jan 9, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi All, >> Perhaps I'm just dense, but I can't seem to master the VO trackpad >> navigation system to save my life. I gather it's quite similar to one which >> many people have gotten used to on the IPhone, so I know it should be >> possible. >> I'm even having trouble turning the system on via trackpad. When I'm told >> to "rotate two fingers clockwise", I interpret that to mean put my pointer >> and middle fingers on the pad and move them around in a roughly circular >> fashion. I've done that repeatedly to no effect. Should I be using a >> different pair of fingers? Should they not be on the pad at the same time? >> Am I misconstruing the word "rotate?" >> Any advice on this navigation mode would be greatly appreciated. >> Best and thanks, >> Zack. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: garmin GPS iphone app
I also had the opportunity to do some more walking with he Garmin StreetPilot App today. As Mike mentions, the pedestrian mode did not speak at all for me, and the feature called "Pedestrian Alert" only gave a brief series of beeps and a short vibration when approaching turns, and those did not always occur when I expected them too. At one point my dog and I became disoriented, I think because this was our first walk with my neighborhood roads being snow covered, and I eventually abandoned the Garmin app and used old reliable Navigon and Sendero LookAround to get us back on track. I also noted some choppiness in VO while the StreetPilot app was running, even with all other apps closed. Bryan On Jan 9, 2011, at 9:07 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Hi everyone, well I decided to try the Garmin GPS App, besides a couple > buttons that have strange labels, it's very accessible, it's the first > version, there are some improvements I hope they will make. First, this app > does not store its maps on the device, it downloads them as needed, this > means that you could have problems if you end up in an area with no coverage, > I think most areas are covered these days though. One feature I really hope > will be added is to have spoken instructions when in walk mode, currently it > just beeps to indicate when you need to turn, but spoken instructions are > only provided for driving roots. I emailed them asking for this feature in an > update. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: garmin GPS iphone app
Hi William, The App is named "Garmin StreetPilot," However, according to the Garmin website it is currently only available in the US and Canada. HTH, Bryan On Jan 11, 2011, at 3:54 AM, William Windels wrote: > I was trying the gamin app on the Belgium app-store but it seems not to > exists. > There are some apps with gamin and gps in the name but this sounds like > something else. > Can you give the exact name of the program pls? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch
Greetings All, Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise, Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available worldwide in the App Store and in the following languages: English, Spanish, Russian, German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French translations in the next update. The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller in particular, were instrumental in providing input, feedback and other information to Marcel during this process. Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version of the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro version to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess and Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I believe Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one hundred percent. I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard and Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can navigate the board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger around the board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a piece if one occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to locate the piece you want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce "Selected." Now use one finger again to locate the destination square and double-tap again. Please note that this is considered a first version of this game in it's accessible form. While Marcel has made the heart of the App accessible, it is a very feature-rich App which will require additional coding to make it fully accessible. Marcel has asked that those of us who use the Apps provide feedback to him so he can continue to refine and update the accessibility features. Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/marcel-nijman/id337888122 Here is a link to Chess-wise Pro in the US App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-pro/id351303981?mt=8 Here is a link to Chess-wise FREE in the US App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-free/id367318028?mt=8 Cheers, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch
Hello Brandt, If you are unable to locate Marcel's Apps in your country's App Store, please send him a brief friendly email at: i...@chess-wise.com In my experience, he has been very quick to respond in a polite and helpful manner. Also, one other suggestion given to another individual from South Africa was: If you are using Dutch as your language, try searching the App store for Schaak-wijs. HTH, Bryan On Feb 5, 2011, at 2:27 AM, brandt wrote: > I am sorry to say that you're mistaken. I've searched on boath the iPod and > the computer just in case of typing error, and no go, neither searching for > chess wise, chess-wise or Marcel Nijman braught any desirable results. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
IOS Sudoku App Developer seeking suggestions to make his Apps accessible
Greetings All, For those Sudoku players on the list, I'd like to pick your brains a bit. I've been evaluating IOS Sudoku Apps (more details at the bottom of this email) and have found a good one whose developer is very receptive to making the App accessible and would like some input from the List as to how to best handle the Sudoku Grid. Again, I don't consider myself to be a very creative thinker in this kind of task so I'm hoping some of you can throw out some good ideas. As you probably know, the standard Sudoku grid consists of 9x9 squares, subdivided into 9 smaller 3x3 squares. How do you think VO could best tell us about these squares? Do you want to hear coordinates as in Chess-wise (A1 to H8)? Would you rather hear each 3x3 grid identified uniquely? How would you expect to hear status of pencil marks? Most of these Apps have a separate Number Pad that you use to select the number you want to place on the Grid. Would you expect to first select the number and then select the destination square, or would it make more sense to select the square first and then tap the number pad? Would you want to hear entire rows and columns read? That is the end of the questions for now, but if you're interested in more info, here are some more details regarding my evaluations and these two Apps. I've been evaluating the various free Sudoku Apps and am of course running into the same issue we had with chess prior to Chess-wise being updated; that is, the Sudoku Grid is inaccessible even if the rest of the game has been properly labeled for VO. While I found one app, "Tap Sudoku" that has a semi-accessible grid, the rest of the App needs lots of work. I've been unsuccessful in my attempts to contact the Developer of Tap Sudoku and, in fact, the developer website appears to be just a marketing site. Prior to starting my search I had asked Marcel Nijman if he was interested in developing an accessible Sudoku App, since he has been so good to work with through the process of making his other Apps accessible. Marcel respectfully declined saying he wanted to focus on upgrading his current group of Apps. He did however suggest trying the "Sudoku Tablet" App as he said it looks like a well-designed App. I've tested "Sudoku Tablet" for the iPad and it's sister App, "iSudoku" for all IOS devices. While their grids are not accessible, they both have excellent labeling and navigation for VO. I contacted the Developer, Wolfgang Tumler, and like Marcel, he is very receptive to the idea of making these two Apps fully accessible. In fact, between emails this morning and afternoon Wolfgang tells me he's already added labels to the Number Pad and has begun planning how to best number the Grid and to account for pencil marks, etc on the Grid. He is reviewing the various IOS accessibility programming resources we've been handing out, and he is waiting to hear our ideas before fully implementing the accessible Grid. Link to Sudoku Tablet in the US App Store (for ipads only; Current languages: English, Spanish, German): http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sudoku-tablet/id362562850?mt=8 Link to iSudoku Lite in the US App Store (for all IOS devices; Current languages: English, German, French): http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/isudoku-light/id287792786?mt=8 My written evaluation of Sudoku Tablet: :BEGIN VO accessibility notes for Sudoku Tablet 2.0.2. The following information applies to the free version of Sudoku Tablet 2.0.2, English language, running on 3G iPad 64GB. with IOS 4.2.1. Highlights: Highlight 1. The Grid is completely inaccessible to VoiceOver, and there is no accessible alternate method to navigate the grid. Highlight 2. The Number Pad is completely inaccessible to VoiceOver, and there is no accessible alternative method to navigate the number pad. Highlight 3: Almost all of the App's buttons and controls appear to be properly and thoroughly labeled. Highlight 4. With the exception of the grid and number pad, the app can be easily navigated with VO via both swipes and fingertip searching. Highlight 5: The paid version of Sudoku Tablet includes 5 difficulty levels, 4 styles of play and the ability to save games in progress. Here is an overview of the User interface elements as read by VO. Most of the buttons are correctly labeled and self-explanatory. The support website has an excellent and accessible description of the game's various elements. Here I will give a few details of each button and some info on it's accessibility. The main screen consists of the following elements listed in order when swiping right from the top left corner: 1, A button properly labelled "Menu." I'll describe this in detail below. 2. A button properly labeled "Restart." This simply asks you if you'd like to restart your current game. 3. A button properly labeled "Settings." This presents an accessible and well-described popup menu of six switch buttons to adjust a few features. 4. A button labeled "
Re: IOS Sudoku App Developer seeking suggestions to make his Apps accessible
Hi Antonio, Thank you for your feedback. I've passed along the notes from your first email. To address the points from your second email: 1. Regarding braille: At this time all options are still being considered, but this process is still in the "one step at a time" phase. 2. Regarding apps on mac or iphone? Per my original email dated 9 February, these are IOS apps. isudoku runs on all IOS devices, sudoku tablet runs only on the ipad. 3. Regarding when to read grid: Yes, the verbosity will be important. Hopefully the developer will be able to make this adjustable. 4. Regarding developers retrofitting their apps for VO: Please feel free to start contacting developers directly. If you're interested in knowing how I personally go about the process, let me know. Note that my methods are still evolving and have met with mixed success. Cheers, Bryan On Feb 10, 2011, at 9:57 PM, Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. wrote: > I do not think braille should be considered just yet when making a sudoku app. > Are these apps to be run on a mac, or iPhone? > Either way I see no need to read grids at all times, only when the player > makes a region query as I suggested. > I bet some developer out there may be able to retrofit their existing app > with VoiceOver features you may furnish. Try it I say, or you'll never know > how far the developers are willing to go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: GPS Apps
Folks - Here's another GPS App to consider if you're in the US or Canada: MotionX GPS Drive. I've been evaluating it and am very impressed so far. The initial review on Applevis, posted last August, says this App was inaccessible at that time, but the version I'm testing, version 9.1 released on 10 February 2011, is very accessible and has the following two important features I think make it stand out at the moment: 1. The current version of this App gives automatically spoken turn-by-turn directions when walking, with no reaching in the pocket, tapping the screen, shaking the phone, or any other sort of interaction required. In my testing, whenever I reached an intersection, the App automatically said something like, "turn right on happy pleasant lane." The voice, BTW, is the "lovely" Acapella Heather. And when I intentionally walked past my turn, she said "recalculating route" and when I reached the next intersection she correctly stated, "now turn right on nasty dog wandering loose road." 2. Like Garmin's StreetPilot, this app uses Navteq cloud based maps, However, with MotionX you can pre-load maps when planning your route, something you cannot currently do with StreetPilot. You can select the amount of storage space to use, from 256 MB up to 2 GB, and there is an accessible meter telling how much storage you've used. There's also a button to clear the cached maps. When you choose to pre-load maps, there is an accessible progress indicator. Thus you can pre-load maps while wi-fi connected to help minimize cellular data usage and in addition you will still theoretically be receiving directions on your trip even if you've lost your cellular data connection. Also, when you choose to pre-load your maps you have a choice to listen to a simulation of your route. This is spoken just as if you were en route, including the time between turns, and while there is a setting to run the simulation at 8x, I've been unable to find a way to manually force the simulation to move to the next turn. The App does have it's share of issues. Here are a few of the ones I consider most important: 1. While most controls and labels are accessible and properly labeled, there are a few exceptions. Most buttons on the "Search" page are not labeled, but fortunately you can work around this by using the "Go To" page instead, which has well labeled buttons and, as far as I can tell, allows you to perform all of the same functions found in the Search page. 2. There are inconsistencies in the labeling and manipulation of some of the radio buttons, switch buttons, and check boxes. While I did not find any that couldn't easily be figured out, it takes a bit of patience. 3. The button in the top left corner of every screen is labeled "button ondemand up." If you double-tap it will either tell you to select a destination or tell you the current segment of your trip. 4. While VO is able to read almost everything on the "directions list" screen, VO is unable to read the part that tells you which way to turn. There is a little graphic of an arrow pointing left or right, but VO is not able to read them. 5. I'm not sure how good or bad the POI database is just yet. The default list of POI around my home address was severely lacking. However, when I searched for POI and entered my address manually, I got much better results. 6. While the main menu and many of the sub-menus are well laid out, there are some screens that seem jumbled and slightly confusing to navigate with VO. 7. There are some other minor glitches but overall I think this App is worth a look. I will be continuing to use this App and will add to my comments posted to the Applevis site. HTH, Bryan Interestingly, MotionX GPS Drive is currently the top Paid App in the Navigation section of the US App Store. I don't know if that means top rated or top selling, but that's how I stumbled on it. The pricing scheme is a bit different from others I've seen. The initial purchase price for the general IOS version is US 99 cents. There is also an iPad specific version called MotionX GPS Drive HD for US $2.99. The initial purchase price buys you the full app with visual navigation and a 30 day trial of what they call "live voice guidance" which means spoken turn-by-turn navigation. According to MotionX's literature, the way they make their money and pay for the navteq maps is by charging for the live voice guidance. After the 30 day trial runs out, you can purchase monthly for $2.99 or yearly for $19.99. On Feb 13, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > Wow, I like the idea of Garmin but not announcing turn by turn directions > when walking is a real limiter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more opti
Re: GPS Apps
Here's the Us App Store link, or search for motionx to find both this general ios version as well as the ipad specific version. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/motionx-gps-drive/id328095974?mt=8 > Folks - Here's another GPS App to consider if you're in the US or Canada: > MotionX GPS Drive. I've been evaluating it and am very impressed so far. The > initial review on Applevis, posted last August, says this App was > inaccessible at that time, but the version I'm testing, version 9.1 released > on 10 February 2011, is very accessible and has the following two important > features I think make it stand out at the moment: > > 1. The current version of this App gives automatically spoken turn-by-turn > directions when walking, with no reaching in the pocket, tapping the screen, > shaking the phone, or any other sort of interaction required. In my testing, > whenever I reached an intersection, the App automatically said something > like, "turn right on happy pleasant lane." The voice, BTW, is the "lovely" > Acapella Heather. And when I intentionally walked past my turn, she said > "recalculating route" and when I reached the next intersection she correctly > stated, "now turn right on nasty dog wandering loose road." > > 2. Like Garmin's StreetPilot, this app uses Navteq cloud based maps, However, > with MotionX you can pre-load maps when planning your route, something you > cannot currently do with StreetPilot. You can select the amount of storage > space to use, from 256 MB up to 2 GB, and there is an accessible meter > telling how much storage you've used. There's also a button to clear the > cached maps. When you choose to pre-load maps, there is an accessible > progress indicator. Thus you can pre-load maps while wi-fi connected to help > minimize cellular data usage and in addition you will still theoretically be > receiving directions on your trip even if you've lost your cellular data > connection. Also, when you choose to pre-load your maps you have a choice to > listen to a simulation of your route. This is spoken just as if you were en > route, including the time between turns, and while there is a setting to run > the simulation at 8x, I've been unable to find a way to manually force the > simulation to move to the next turn. > > The App does have it's share of issues. Here are a few of the ones I consider > most important: > 1. While most controls and labels are accessible and properly labeled, there > are a few exceptions. Most buttons on the "Search" page are not labeled, but > fortunately you can work around this by using the "Go To" page instead, which > has well labeled buttons and, as far as I can tell, allows you to perform all > of the same functions found in the Search page. > 2. There are inconsistencies in the labeling and manipulation of some of the > radio buttons, switch buttons, and check boxes. While I did not find any that > couldn't easily be figured out, it takes a bit of patience. > 3. The button in the top left corner of every screen is labeled "button > ondemand up." If you double-tap it will either tell you to select a > destination or tell you the current segment of your trip. > 4. While VO is able to read almost everything on the "directions list" > screen, VO is unable to read the part that tells you which way to turn. There > is a little graphic of an arrow pointing left or right, but VO is not able to > read them. > 5. I'm not sure how good or bad the POI database is just yet. The default > list of POI around my home address was severely lacking. However, when I > searched for POI and entered my address manually, I got much better results. > 6. While the main menu and many of the sub-menus are well laid out, there are > some screens that seem jumbled and slightly confusing to navigate with VO. > 7. There are some other minor glitches but overall I think this App is worth > a look. I will be continuing to use this App and will add to my comments > posted to the Applevis site. > > HTH, > Bryan > > Interestingly, MotionX GPS Drive is currently the top Paid App in the > Navigation section of the US App Store. I don't know if that means top rated > or top selling, but that's how I stumbled on it. > The pricing scheme is a bit different from others I've seen. The initial > purchase price for the general IOS version is US 99 cents. There is also an > iPad specific version called MotionX GPS Drive HD for US $2.99. > The initial purchase price buys you the full app with visual navigation and a > 30 day trial of what they call "live voice guidance" which means spoken > turn-by-turn navigation. According to MotionX's literature, the way they make > their money and pay for the navteq maps is by charging for the live voice > guidance. After the 30 day trial runs out, you can purchase monthly for $2.99 > or yearly for $19.99. > > > > On Feb 13, 2011, at 9:47 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >> Wow, I like the idea of Garmin but not
Re: IPhone speaker phone setting?
Hi Erik - I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that there were no settings to permanently enable or disable switching to speakerphone. During a call or when checking voicemail, there is a button labeled "speaker" that can be used to toggle the speaker during that call, but I'm pretty sure that only holds for the current phone call. Did your client perhaps install a new case recently or have they done anything else that might be covering the proximity sensor? If that sensor is covered, even partially, it could cause the phone to stay out of speakerphone mode. The sensor is located above the earpiece on the iphone 4, and next to the earpiece on the iphone 3GS. HTH, Bryan On Feb 15, 2011, at 11:50 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > Hi guys, Could someone please tell me where to find the setting on the IPhone > that controls the speaker phone? One of my clients has accidentally disable > the feature where the speaker phone activates automatically when the phone > flips. He wants that enabled again and I've been through the phone settings > but I'm just not seeing it. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO will only say safari busy, safari ready on mobile facebook site?
Hi Kary, I am able to access profile, messages, friends, etc on m.facebook.com and have no problems reading, posting and liking. What's your mac make, model, OS version, browser version? I assume you've rebooted and tried the same thing with no other apps or web pages open? Is anything else listed if you open the application or window chooser menus while the Safari busy issue is happening? Bryan On Feb 18, 2011, at 5:04 AM, johns.kary wrote: > For the last week or so every time I try to read comments, event invites or > practically anything other then the home page on m.facebook.com, vo just > keeps saying safari busy, safari ready. It just keeps looping around and > around till I move away from that page. The main page of m.facebook.com > works with no problem, but nothing beyond it. I haven't noticed any other > webpages doing this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Anti Virus Software
I previously used ClamXAV but switched to the free Sophos product when it was released a few months ago. Both are strictly anti-virus, no firewall or other security bits are included, which is how I personally like it. Both are accessible with VO, though Sophos seems to be using some non-standard control panel that requires some getting used to. Neither product has ever given me any problems that I am aware of. Of course malware in general is less of a problem on OSX, and while ClamX was kind enough to point out a potential "phishing" email found in one of my mailboxes during a full scan, nothing else nasty has ever been reported. Disclaimer: I previously worked in IT security and, while I don't consider myself to be inherently paranoid, I've seen enough crap to be convinced that some form of malware protection should be used on a Mac. When I hear the inevitable quips about how OSX is inherently secure, or how it's a waste to run malware protection software on a Mac, or other such short-sighted comments, I just sigh and press the delete button. No links pasted because both products will show at the top of a properly worded google search. HTH, Bryan On Feb 19, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: > Hi All, > > I got my Mac about 10 days ago and have been running Virus Barrier in > evaluation mode. Before I buy the software, has anyone got any suggestions > for other anti virus software? > > Thanks in advance. > > Ian > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: downloadable audiobooks from public library questions
Hello Christina, Can you tell us which service your library is using to loan their audiobooks, or send us a link to your library's website so we can take a look? Cheers, Bryan On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Christina wrote: > Hello all, > > I hope you're having a nice Monday. :) I was searching my library's book > catalog for my children. I noticed that they offer audiobooks for download. > It said that I can play these on an iPhone, iPad, or iPod. I am on a mac > running Snow Leopard. Is the download process available for the mac > platform? If so can this be done using voiceover both on my mac and on my > iPhone? If so, what do I need to do to download these audio files onto my > mac? Is it straightforward to put the book on my iPhone after that? I > realize these files expire after a set period of time just like checking out > a book. Is this process more difficult than it's worth? > > Thanks so much for any help, > Christina > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box
Hello Ray and All, Ray - I agree with you on this, and please forgive me if the following information has already been provided somewhere in this thread. Could somebody supply the correct contact email address, URL and / or phone number for Dropbox support? While I am not a Dropbox User, I considered evaluating the service but have been put off by all of the bad press they are receiving on this and other lists. I would like to tell Dropbox this fact but am too busy, and sometimes just too lazy, too search for a Developer's contact information and am much more likely to contact a developer if their correct contact information is handed to me. Thank you, Bryan On Feb 22, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Look, here's how I see it. They've been telling us for about two years that they know about the accessibility issues witth Drop Box. Every single time one of us writes them about it, all we hear back is, "We're aware of the problem". I reckon it's high time one of us or maybe a bunch of us wrote them and frankly said something like this: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: downloadable audiobooks from public library questions
Hello Christina, Esther and All, In addition to Esther's excellent post, I want to add that you might be able to avoid some of the hoops by using the latest version of the Overdrive App which allows patrons of at least some library systems to browse and download titles directly from the iphone, ipad and i-touch. I am able to perform the following functions without requiring any interaction with a Mac or PC: 1. Use the App's button labeled "Get Books Plus" to find my library using a town or zip code, or by browsing all libraries. 2. Login to my library's system using my library card number. 3. Browse iphone-compatible audiobooks, Adobe epub ebooks and public domain ebooks in my library's collection. 4. Download available audiobook titles directly to the iphone, ipad or ipod touch and listen to them in the Overdrive Media App, which is fully VO accessible. 5. Place a title on hold if it is currently checked out. You supply your email address and will be notified when the title becomes available for checkout. My library currently lists a "whopping" 314 iphone-compatible audiobook titles and 1000 Adobe epub titles. In addition, they have a few thousand of the public domain ebooks, all of which I'm sure are available for free from many sources including ibooks and kobo. I tried downloading one of the Adobe epub books and was prompted for an adobe ID. I didn't bother following that trail any further so I can't report on the accessibility of the Adobe epub titles. I've pasted a link to the App below. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/overdrive-media-console/id366869252?mt=8 Cheers, Bryan Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 22, 2011, at 6:39 PM, Christina wrote: > Wow, Thanks so much. It does sound like a lot of hoops to jump through. I > appreciate all of your help. I have a question just to make sure I > understand. Is there a mac compatible overdrive software that works with > voiceover? > Thanks so much, > Christina > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Response from Dropbox Support regarding my inquiry
I submitted a ticket to Dropbox Support using the simple form at this URL: https://www.dropbox.com/ticket#step:2 Pasted below is the initial response I've received. Is this the same response other folks are getting? I'd be interested to know exactly what your response was, what further communication occurred between you and Dropbox, and where your ticket stands at this point. Please Note: I've read enough flames and am just interested in hearing the dialog you've had with Dropbox. Begin Forwarded Message: > > Marshall, Feb-22 05:32 pm (PST): > Bryan- > > Thank you for writing to us. > > Our development team recently discovered that changes in the most recent > version of the Dropbox client may have inadvertently caused VoiceOver to work > improperly for some users. We're working to resolve those issues, but we'd > appreciate any specific feedback you may have about specific parts of the > client that are not accessible using this technology so that we can address > those areas. If you could provide us with that feedback, that would be much > appreciated. > > If you have any additional questions or feedback, please let us know. > > Best, > Marshall > > > opensesame, Feb-22 02:33 pm (PST): > Blind Mac User considering Dropbox, but I am told it has become inaccessible > Dear Dropbox Team, > > I am a blind Mac User and am considering using Dropbox. Unfortunately, I've > been informed by a number of my fellow blind Mac Users that your product has > recently become almost unusable for blind Mac folks due to its lack of access > with Apple's built-in VoiceOver screen reader. Before I make the decision to > go with a Dropbox competitor I wanted to ask if you have plans to add > VoiceOver accessibility back into your Mac OSX application. My research has > shown Dropbox to be highly regarded and I'd prefer to use it instead of > another product, but full accessibility is a requirement for me. > > Thank you very much for your consideration, > Bryan Jones > openses...@me.com > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: I believe I broke my finder.
Does it show up in your application chooser? On Feb 26, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > what I mean is I can cmd tab and see mail, night owl and skype and back to > mail. no finder at all. I can still get to it but if I cmd tab away I cannot > get back. > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to > http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my > info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marri...@gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Feb 26, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Tab order? >> >> What do you mean? Sorry, I'm not following. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 26, 2011, at 3:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Hello to all. I some how put my finder out of tab order. I can get there >>> with vo shift d but that's it. Can anyone help me get my finder bak in tab >>> order? I'm headed out the door to class so might not be able to answer >>> right away. >>> >>> Take care all. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: overdrive books
Hello Denise, Below I've pasted two recent posts regarding Overdrive: My brief post gives some information about the Overdrive iphone App and a more detailed post from Esther gives additional Overdrive info and links to past notes.. HTH, Bryan Begin forwarded messages: > In addition to Esther's excellent post, I want to add that you might be able > to avoid some of the hoops by using the latest version of the Overdrive App > which allows patrons of at least some library systems to browse and download > titles directly from the iphone, ipad and i-touch. I am able to perform the > following functions without requiring any interaction with a Mac or PC: > 1. Use the App's button labeled "Get Books Plus" to find my library using a > town or zip code, or by browsing all libraries. > 2. Login to my library's system using my library card number. > 3. Browse iphone-compatible audiobooks, Adobe epub ebooks and public domain > ebooks in my library's collection. > 4. Download available audiobook titles directly to the iphone, ipad or ipod > touch and listen to them in the Overdrive Media App, which is fully VO > accessible. > 5. Place a title on hold if it is currently checked out. You supply your > email address and will be notified when the title becomes available for > checkout. > > My library currently lists a "whopping" 314 iphone-compatible audiobook > titles and 1000 Adobe epub titles. In addition, they have a few thousand of > the public domain ebooks, all of which I'm sure are available for free from > many sources including ibooks and kobo. I tried downloading one of the Adobe > epub books and was prompted for an adobe ID. I didn't bother following that > trail any further so I can't report on the accessibility of the Adobe epub > titles. > > I've pasted a link to the App below. > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/overdrive-media-console/id366869252?mt=8 > From: Esther > Date: February 22, 2011 5:54:37 PM EST > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: downloadable audiobooks from public library questions > Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > Hi Christina, > > I think you're referring to downloading audiobooks using the OverDrive Media > Console software. I haven't used this for library downloads for some time > because available titles for download seem to be limited at my library in > recent years due to state budget cuts. I have had more success requesting > audiobook CDs from my library, and ripping those for listening. However, the > process is quite accessible. There are two types of OverDrive Media books > that are carried in downloadable format. The WMA protected formats can only > be downloaded on a Windows computer with the version of OverDrive Media > Console for Windows, and the Windows update to support the copy protection > scheme in effect. Of these, a subset may be transferred to the iPhone or iPod > if the publisher permits it. Some libraries now maintain a separate link for > for iPod-Compatible audiobooks, which includes those WMA titles that can be > transferred to an iPod or iPhone and the MP3 titles that can all be > transferred to an iPod or iPhone, and which all can be downloaded and played > on a Mac, as well as on a Windows PC. > > Before you download an audiobook, you install the OverDrive software (and, in > the case of Windows machines, including installations on a Bootcamp partition > on your Mac, and I believe also through VMWare virtual machines, you may need > to install additional copy protection software). When you check out a > library downloadable audiobook, you download a small file with the name of > the book and a ".odm" extension (which are the initials for "OverDrive > Media"). This file sets the permission to play the book that you borrow for > the fixed period in the OverDrive software. It is specific to your machine, > and you cannot move it (or the audiobook files) to another machine and expect > to play the files. Once you download and open this file, an entry for the > audiobook will appear in the OverDrive Media Console, and you will have > options in a dialog window to download any number of parts. (Although the > files are compressed MP3 files, there will be 1 part for each of the original > CDs). There are menu bar options, and a number of shortcuts for playing and > navigating through the Audiobook using the OverDrive Media Player (a separate > window). This interface is very nice, with options to control playback speed, > set bookmarks, etc. The actual MP3 files gets downloaded into a folder that > is created under the Documents folder of your account: ~/Documents/My > Media/MP3 Audiobooks/ in separate folders named for each book. There will > also be an "OverDrive Welcome" folder created in this location. > > I have always found it easiest just to add the files in these locations to my > iTunes library with the normal Command-O selection. At that point, they >
Re: Mac OS X Lion
Hey Mark, or should I call you Rip Van Winkle? Apple has released a beta of OSX 10.7, also known as Lion. You can get it by registering as an Apple Developer and paying US $99 for the OSX dev tools. If you're not already an Apple Developer, you can get started here: http://developer.apple.com/programs/register/ Have fun! Bryan On Feb 28, 2011, at 10:07 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > Did I miss something on here? > > Is there a new OS out? > > How may I obtain it? > > Mark > On Feb 28, 2011, at 12:40 AM, Oriol Gómez wrote: > >> I'm trying to install OSX lion on my 2010 macbook pro, and it gives me >> an error after preparing to install. Am I dong something wrong? I'm >> just installing the system in the same partition as my current one, >> macintosh hd. >> Should I be doing something different? I didn't make any changes when >> I burned the disk image, I simply burned it with disk utility. >> >> On 2/27/11, T wood wrote: >>> I highly doubt it. I would really like to actually see all 4 gb of ram with >>> sl being used. I've tried and the most I can get it up to is 2 point >>> something. Fusion, I can see if you had a virtual machine, but even then 2 >>> for each gets me by just fine. >>> >>> Yet again, the price of the ssd was absolutely rediculous. Considering I >>> have a lot of things I like to bring with me, going to the 512 gb ssd for >>> over 500 dollars was crazy. Yes, I did want a bad (insert language here) >>> computer, but I just couldn't justify it, battery life increase or not. >>> >>> >>> On 2011-02-25, at 4:36 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >>> If your experiencing slow writes, get an SSD. If your utilising all of your 4GB then perhaps an upgrade is in order, but SSD's decrease bootup time and the time it takes to open apps amongst other things. On 25/02/2011, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually I might bun my next laptop up to 8 but tha'ts just me. Iwant the > fasted thing inteh universe, Ok not really but I'm not happy wiht 4 gigs. > My > mac still slows down when saving a 4 hour long file lol! > Sarah Alawami > > If you need an edit done on a small project go to > http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me > my > info is below. > > MSN and AIM: marri...@gmail.com > > website: http://music.marrie.org > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > >> Lets be honest though, it's not like ram is expencive unless your >> looking for ddr which you won't be. Even on sl, you should see a >> difference if you bump it up to 2 or 4GB. >> >> On 25/02/2011, Brandon Misch wrote: >>> i know >>> >>> On Feb 25, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: >>> If it is, you're screwed. Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 Skype: leogirl48 Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 1:47 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion i hope that it isn't over 1 gb On Feb 25, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: > I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the ram requirements > are. > > Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 > Skype: leogirl48 > Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 7:27 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion > > i can't say yet > > On Feb 25, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: > >> Do you think my mac will run it? I have a regular mac book with two >> gigs > of >> ram. >> >> Email: jawsgir...@gmail.com >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jawsgirl87 >> Skype: leogirl48 >> Facebook: jawsgir...@gmail.com >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch >> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:46 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mac OS X Lion >> >> i just hope the ram requirements aren't higher this time. >> >> On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: >> >>> I'd like to be o
Re: waiting on an adapter
Hi Joseph, Congrats on your new mini! I have one and love it. Here's one thing you might consider trying If the sluggishness of VO becomes too painful before your VGA adapter arrives: If you have a TV or other device with an HDMI input, you might try connecting it to your mini via the HDMI port that comes standard on the latest minis. I haven't personally tried to do this as I have a monitor with a DVI input and so I use the included HDMI to DVI adapter. If you do decide to try this, here's an Apple knowledgebase article about the mid 2010 mini's HDMI capabilities: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4214 HTH, Bryan On Feb 28, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Joseph Norton wrote: > Hi: > > I have just ordered a new Mac Mini and can't wait to try it out. I saw one > at the store in Chattanooga (a Best Buy store) and was impressed with the > overall responsiveness of VoiceOver. This, in spite of using a high-quality > voice, such as Alex. When I use a high-quality voice on Windows, I get no > such performance. > > One small problem. > > I don't have a display I can plug in. I have a VGA monitor and have ordered, > after the fact, the mini display port to vga adapter which should allow me to > plug in my monitor once it arrives. > > However, it most likely will arrive 3 or more days after the Mac Mini arrives > here. > > Mike arrigo has told me, already, that VoiceOver will perform sluggishly > without a display connected. > > Mike, feel free to chime in here, if you wish, but, input from other users is > appreciated. > > How sluggish will it be. Will it be to the point that I need to go have a > snack while I press arrow keys or perform VO commands, or, can I maybe live > with it for 3 or 4 days? > > Have any of you played with this and maybe gotten arround it, at least > temporarily? > > Any help is much appreciated. > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 3890 (20090226) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Adding RAM to the new Mac Mini [Was Re: Just a quick note on Apple's order process]
Hi Esther and All, I just wanted to add a note to clarify that the new Mac Mini, sometimes called the "Mid 2010" or "Unibody" model, has a vastly simplified process for adding and removing RAM. I know the older Minis required putty knives and hammers and sometimes chainsaws to accomplish this, but now no tools are required. Here's Apple's knowledgebase article regarding RAM and the Mac Minis: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4432#1 HTH, Bryan On Feb 28, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi, > > Just a quick note to state that some simple configurations, such as more > memory, can be handled by staff if you purchase directly from the Apple > Store. Basically, all standard configurations are pre-packaged. However, if > you buy a new laptop and want to max out the memory, an Apple Store can > replace the memory for you and credit you with the difference. Since Apple > memory is more expensive, you might not want to do this unless you are also > getting an educational discount on the purchase -- which would also apply to > the memory. However, this can be a useful feature. This doesn't apply to > elements such as hard drives, and it certainly wouldn't apply to memory > upgrades that can't be handled by a simple substitution. For example, the > MacBook Air models require that your memory be specified at the time of > order, and the initial memory cannot be upgraded, because these modules are > hard-socketed in the device. So if you want to max out memory, you must do > so with a custom order. I'm also not sure whether memory for the Mac Mini's > can easily be uprgraded at purchase, since it requires considerably more work > to open the case to access the memory slot. Finally, I will remind list > readers that, at least for the iMac, the standard keyboard option is now the > short version of the keyboard without number pad. If you want to order your > iMac with a full-size keyboard with number pad, you have to specify this in > your online order. It may be possible to swap for full-size keyboard at the > time of purchase if you buy your iMac at an Apple Store -- I don't know > whether this is the case. However, it does require that they open the box to > swap your keyboard, since all pre-boxed iMacs come with the shorter keyboards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Adding RAM to the new Mac Mini [Was Re: Just a quick note on Apple's order process]
Hi Esther and All, I just wanted to add a note to clarify that the new Mac Mini, sometimes called the "Mid 2010" or "Unibody" model, has a vastly simplified process for adding and removing RAM. I know the older Minis required putty knives and hammers and sometimes chainsaws to accomplish this, but now no tools are required. Here's Apple's knowledgebase article regarding RAM and the Mac Minis: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4432#1 HTH, Bryan On Feb 28, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi, > > Just a quick note to state that some simple configurations, such as more > memory, can be handled by staff if you purchase directly from the Apple > Store. Basically, all standard configurations are pre-packaged. However, if > you buy a new laptop and want to max out the memory, an Apple Store can > replace the memory for you and credit you with the difference. Since Apple > memory is more expensive, you might not want to do this unless you are also > getting an educational discount on the purchase -- which would also apply to > the memory. However, this can be a useful feature. This doesn't apply to > elements such as hard drives, and it certainly wouldn't apply to memory > upgrades that can't be handled by a simple substitution. For example, the > MacBook Air models require that your memory be specified at the time of > order, and the initial memory cannot be upgraded, because these modules are > hard-socketed in the device. So if you want to max out memory, you must do > so with a custom order. I'm also not sure whether memory for the Mac Mini's > can easily be uprgraded at purchase, since it requires considerably more work > to open the case to access the memory slot. Finally, I will remind list > readers that, at least for the iMac, the standard keyboard option is now the > short version of the keyboard without number pad. If you want to order your > iMac with a full-size keyboard with number pad, you have to specify this in > your online order. It may be possible to swap for full-size keyboard at the > time of purchase if you buy your iMac at an Apple Store -- I don't know > whether this is the case. However, it does require that they open the box to > swap your keyboard, since all pre-boxed iMacs come with the shorter keyboards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: one more overdrive question
Hi Denise, That's a bit of a tricky question because different libraries apparently offer different selections of titles. You might consider starting from OverDrive's own search page, a link to which I'll paste below. There you can select the format you're interested in (MP3, WMA, EPUB, etc) and enter various criteria to search by. Using the example of James Patterson, I searched all libraries for Creator = Patterson and found zero of his titles in MP3 format but several in WMA format and a bunch in the unusable Adobe EPUB ebook format. If and when your search does return a title you're interested in, the search results will include a list of the libraries carrying that title. Also on that search page, there is a section to locate libraries in your area by zip code or name. Here's the link to Overdrive's search page. BTW, I was able to navigate this using VO on the Mac: http://search.overdrive.com/classic/default.asp HTH, Bryan On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:48 PM, Denise Avant wrote: > for those of you who have experience with overdrive media, i'm wondering if > any of the more popular books, like those by james patterson are in mp3 > format. it does not have to be patterson, just using him as an example. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: unhiding idisk
Hi Marlaina, 1. Go to the Finder. 2. Choose the Finder Menu / Preferences. 3. In the Finder Preferences window, interact with the toolbar, navigate to the "Sidebar" button, and VO Spacebar on that button. 4. Stop interacting with the toolbar, then VO Right Arrow to navigate down the list of checkboxes representing items available to show in Finder's Sidebar. 5. There you should find an unchecked iDisk. Press the spacebar to check the box, press Command W to close the Finder Preferences window and you should be all set. HTH, Bryan On Feb 28, 2011, at 10:07 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > Some time ago, one of the folks in my apple store showed me how to hide or > see idisk. I am now starting to play with mobile me but I can't remember how > to unhide my goofy idisk. Can anybody help? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pitchfork.com causes safari to crash with VO
I get the same crash in safari when attempting to navigate that site using VO Right Arrow. Tried it with and without click to flash, but no difference. All open safari windows close and I am presented with the Apple problem reporter. I didn't try any other methods of navigating around the site. I wonder if this happens on the latest webkit. I'm running the latest safari and all SL patches on a unibody mac mini. HTH, Bryan On Mar 3, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote: > Hello again listers, > > Pitchfork.com is a music criticism website that I sometimes read. > However, when I go there on my Mac with VO, I can't seem to navigate > past the first couple of links before Safari crashes. Starting from > the top of the page, after the "playlist", I hear list end, and when I > try to go further it always crashes. Does this happen to anyone else? > > Thanks in advance. > > Eric > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pitchfork.com causes safari to crash with VO
Eric - I had the same problem this evening on both the pitchfork and opera.com sites. Same symptoms, same steps to cause the crash, and I submitted problem reports for both. These two crashes in one day equal the total number of safari crashes I had last year, so it makes me itchy. BTW - today's build of webkit isn't exhibiting this problem for me, though webkit has it's own glitches. HTH, Bryan On Mar 3, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote: > Hello again listers, > > Pitchfork.com is a music criticism website that I sometimes read. > However, when I go there on my Mac with VO, I can't seem to navigate > past the first couple of links before Safari crashes. Starting from > the top of the page, after the "playlist", I hear list end, and when I > try to go further it always crashes. Does this happen to anyone else? > > Thanks in advance. > > Eric > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
