Re: Matched Items download?
Thanks Tim. As I thought I was deleting one album I unchecked keep copies in the cloud so I have lost my matched items. I will check my preferences. Kawal. Sent from my I phone > On 22 Oct 2013, at 04:40 am, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > Yes, you can download all the music that you've matched. They should still > be in the Cloud unless you told them to be deleted from the Cloud when you > deleted them from your computer. In your iTunes Prefs, in the Store pane, > make sure that "Show in the Cloud Purchases" is checked. The songs that > you've matched should still be listed in your Music Library and you can > select them, then press VO-shift-m and choose "Download". If you select all, > you can use the same VO-shift-m command to download all instead of having to > do this individually. > > HTH. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On 2013-10-20, at 6:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >> Hello All. >> >> Yesterday, I wrote to the list, telling you all that a CD didn't import very >> well. >> >> So, I came home and selected all the tracks for that CD and made shure only >> tracks for that CD was deleted. However, only when I emptied the trash, I >> found all my Music library had been deleted which didn't matter as my >> library had become untidy. >> >> While I can download all my purchased albums, is there a way to download all >> the items that I matched? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Kawal. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: prospective subscribers not allowed to join this group?
Hi, I have seen no response to the message below, so I don't know how others can subscribe to this list anymore. I have a friend who's trying to do just that, and is quite frustrated with how and when he can join the list. Any response will be appreciated, Antonio On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > Hi all, > A few people on the ViPhone list want to join this list. They are getting > errors from Google saying that this is an invite-only list and they cannot > subscribe. Why is that? I thought this list was only moderated, so new > subscribers would have to be okayed by a mod. How are people supposed to > subscribe now? > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: prospective subscribers not allowed to join this group?
I don't know the answer to how to subscribe to this list. But if your friend wants to get answers to questions, tell them to go to mac4theblind.org its the number 4 not the word for. HTH. Kliphton (iMessage )kliph...@icloud.com-Email kliphton@outlook.com (Twitter,Instagram,foursquare&Skype) kliphton72 [Text only] 914-820-2298 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:50 AM, Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. wrote: > Hi, > > I have seen no response to the message below, so I don't know how others can > subscribe to this list anymore. > I have a friend who's trying to do just that, and is quite frustrated with > how and when he can join the list. > > Any response will be appreciated, > > Antonio > > > On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:29 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> Hi all, >> A few people on the ViPhone list want to join this list. They are getting >> errors from Google saying that this is an invite-only list and they cannot >> subscribe. Why is that? I thought this list was only moderated, so new >> subscribers would have to be okayed by a mod. How are people supposed to >> subscribe now? >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: prospective subscribers not allowed to join this group?
Sorry for the delay. I was traveling this weekend and am just now catching up on email. Anyone can join the group, there is just an approval process to weed out spammers. I have not found any join requests in my inbox to approve. It's been years since I joined this list so I'm a bit fuzzy on the steps but you should just login with your google credentials (or create an account) and then when you navigate to the MacVisionaries list an "Apply to join group" button should be added to the top of the page just before the first message. I think the trick was that the join button doesn't show up unless you are already logged in. CB On 10/20/13 7:29 PM, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, A few people on the ViPhone list want to join this list. They are getting errors from Google saying that this is an invite-only list and they cannot subscribe. Why is that? I thought this list was only moderated, so new subscribers would have to be okayed by a mod. How are people supposed to subscribe now? Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: prospective subscribers not allowed to join this group?
I have been telling people to email macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com, and they all get the error message about not being able to join. People shouldn't need a Gmail account to join a list. What, then, is the correct subscription address? Joining has always been a huge problem for this list, and I always hesitate to recommend it as a resource simply because of the trouble everyone always has in signing up. When you, Chris, said you were able to approve join requests I was relieved, but I guess I'm still missing something... On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > Sorry for the delay. I was traveling this weekend and am just now catching up > on email. > > Anyone can join the group, there is just an approval process to weed out > spammers. I have not found any join requests in my inbox to approve. It's > been years since I joined this list so I'm a bit fuzzy on the steps but you > should just login with your google credentials (or create an account) and > then when you navigate to the MacVisionaries list an "Apply to join group" > button should be added to the top of the page just before the first message. > I think the trick was that the join button doesn't show up unless you are > already logged in. > > CB > > On 10/20/13 7:29 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >> Hi all, >> A few people on the ViPhone list want to join this list. They are getting >> errors from Google saying that this is an invite-only list and they cannot >> subscribe. Why is that? I thought this list was only moderated, so new >> subscribers would have to be okayed by a mod. How are people supposed to >> subscribe now? >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: prospective subscribers not allowed to join this group?
I never joined this list with a Gmail account. Why not go to Google and put in the E-mail address you prefer as that is what I did and had no problem at the time. Kawal. Sent from my I phone > On 22 Oct 2013, at 03:50 pm, Alex Hall wrote: > > I have been telling people to email > macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com, and they all get the error message > about not being able to join. People shouldn't need a Gmail account to join a > list. What, then, is the correct subscription address? Joining has always > been a huge problem for this list, and I always hesitate to recommend it as a > resource simply because of the trouble everyone always has in signing up. > When you, Chris, said you were able to approve join requests I was relieved, > but I guess I'm still missing something... >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >> Sorry for the delay. I was traveling this weekend and am just now catching >> up on email. >> >> Anyone can join the group, there is just an approval process to weed out >> spammers. I have not found any join requests in my inbox to approve. It's >> been years since I joined this list so I'm a bit fuzzy on the steps but you >> should just login with your google credentials (or create an account) and >> then when you navigate to the MacVisionaries list an "Apply to join group" >> button should be added to the top of the page just before the first message. >> I think the trick was that the join button doesn't show up unless you are >> already logged in. >> >> CB >> >>> On 10/20/13 7:29 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> A few people on the ViPhone list want to join this list. They are getting >>> errors from Google saying that this is an invite-only list and they cannot >>> subscribe. Why is that? I thought this list was only moderated, so new >>> subscribers would have to be okayed by a mod. How are people supposed to >>> subscribe now? >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> -- >> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Script, Say command
Hi all, You know how you can create a script with the say command using any or many voices? Is there a way to save that script as an audio result? I've found via Google where I can save it as an audio file for one voice, but I cannot find a solution for virtually creating a speech conversation. Any ideas? I could probably record somehow as the script is being run, but I don't think I have an app for that. Lol! I was hoping to create the script, then save the result as audio. Thanks, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Script, Say command
Why not just speak, save, speak, save, and so on until you have all the files? If you tell hte script to, say, number them, you can then import them all into something like Audacity and align them end to end to form a conversation. That's the best I can come up with for now. On Oct 22, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: > Hi all, > > You know how you can create a script with the say command using any or many > voices? Is there a way to save that script as an audio result? > > I've found via Google where I can save it as an audio file for one voice, but > I cannot find a solution for virtually creating a speech conversation. > > Any ideas? > > I could probably record somehow as the script is being run, but I don't think > I have an app for that. Lol! > > I was hoping to create the script, then save the result as audio. > > Thanks, > Traci > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: prospective subscribers not allowed to join this group?
I haven't caught part of this thread, unfortunately. What is the error message they're getting? This might be an instance for contacting the moderators with the problem off-list, as you might get a quicker response. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!contactowner/macvisionaries Once you confirm your email address, you then have to wait for the moderator to approve you. HtH, Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > I never joined this list with a Gmail account. Why not go to Google and put > in the E-mail address you prefer as that is what I did and had no problem at > the time. > > Kawal. > > Sent from my I phone > > On 22 Oct 2013, at 03:50 pm, Alex Hall wrote: > >> I have been telling people to email >> macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com, and they all get the error >> message about not being able to join. People shouldn't need a Gmail account >> to join a list. What, then, is the correct subscription address? Joining has >> always been a huge problem for this list, and I always hesitate to recommend >> it as a resource simply because of the trouble everyone always has in >> signing up. When you, Chris, said you were able to approve join requests I >> was relieved, but I guess I'm still missing something... >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >>> Sorry for the delay. I was traveling this weekend and am just now catching >>> up on email. >>> >>> Anyone can join the group, there is just an approval process to weed out >>> spammers. I have not found any join requests in my inbox to approve. It's >>> been years since I joined this list so I'm a bit fuzzy on the steps but you >>> should just login with your google credentials (or create an account) and >>> then when you navigate to the MacVisionaries list an "Apply to join group" >>> button should be added to the top of the page just before the first >>> message. I think the trick was that the join button doesn't show up unless >>> you are already logged in. >>> >>> CB >>> >>> On 10/20/13 7:29 PM, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, A few people on the ViPhone list want to join this list. They are getting errors from Google saying that this is an invite-only list and they cannot subscribe. Why is that? I thought this list was only moderated, so new subscribers would have to be okayed by a mod. How are people supposed to subscribe now? Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com >>> >>> -- >>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Problem from Re-Labeling an App
Thanks Nick. Glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought why not relabel a generically named app so I know what it is. On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:31 AM, Nicholas Parsons wrote: > For what it's worth, Bryan, I've had the same issue as you. It's really > annoying. I reset my iPhone and restored the iTunes backup and this seemed to > fix it for me. > Cheers, > Nic > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Mavericks is free.
Hello list, I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available today. Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks is free.
Where did you find this? Jane On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hello list, > > I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available today. > Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks is free.
Free? Wow!! What can we expect in the way of differences accessibilitywise? Wow! I sure didn't think it would be free! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hello list, > > I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available today. > Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks is free.
Can't wait to see what's new. I won't be getting for a few weeks. Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com Assistive Technology Trainer IOS and Macintosh User support Windsor area On 2013-10-22, at 1:29 PM, Jane wrote: > Where did you find this? > > Jane > > > > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hello list, >> >> I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available today. >> Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. >> >> hth >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks is free.
Uh, I google and find nothing about this, nor is it in the app store. Am I supposed to laugh now? Hahahaha. Thanks, (I think) :) Teresa "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hello list, > > I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available today. > Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks is free.
Lol. It’s not a joke. It was announced in the Apple event that is streaming live at this moment. Mavericks will be hitting the Mac store later today. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Uh, I google and find nothing about this, nor is it in the app store. Am I > supposed to laugh now? Hahahaha. > > Thanks, (I think) :) > Teresa > > "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. > Feynman > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hello list, >> >> I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available today. >> Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. >> >> hth >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Mavericks is free.
Yep, we can all laugh. And, it's true. I'm watching the Apple event live right now and they made the announcement about 20 minutes ago. It's not there yet because the event is not over. Give it a little time. It will be in the App Store for sure today. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mavericks is free. Uh, I google and find nothing about this, nor is it in the app store. Am I supposed to laugh now? Hahahaha. Thanks, (I think) :) Teresa "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hello list, > > I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available today. Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks is free.
Here's a web link to the same info: http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/22/apple-makes-os-x-mavericks-a-free-upgrade-available-today/ CB On 10/22/13 1:42 PM, Shen wrote: Yep, we can all laugh. And, it's true. I'm watching the Apple event live right now and they made the announcement about 20 minutes ago. It's not there yet because the event is not over. Give it a little time. It will be in the App Store for sure today. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mavericks is free. Uh, I google and find nothing about this, nor is it in the app store. Am I supposed to laugh now? Hahahaha. Thanks, (I think) :) Teresa "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hello list, I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available today. Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks is free.
I just saw it on Twitter, too My apologies for thinking this was a joke. Jane On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Lol. > > It’s not a joke. It was announced in the Apple event that is streaming live > at this moment. Mavericks will be hitting the Mac store later today. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote: > >> Uh, I google and find nothing about this, nor is it in the app store. Am I >> supposed to laugh now? Hahahaha. >> >> Thanks, (I think) :) >> Teresa >> >> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. >> Feynman >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hello list, >>> >>> I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available >>> today. Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks is free.
Sorry, Ricardo. It didn't seem like the sort of thing you'd do on the list, but there was so little info to work with. It's great news, and I'm still laughing. way to go, Apple. :) Teresa "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jane wrote: > I just saw it on Twitter, too My apologies for thinking this was a joke. > Jane > > > > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Lol. >> >> It’s not a joke. It was announced in the Apple event that is streaming live >> at this moment. Mavericks will be hitting the Mac store later today. >> >> hth >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Teresa Cochran >> wrote: >> >>> Uh, I google and find nothing about this, nor is it in the app store. Am I >>> supposed to laugh now? Hahahaha. >>> >>> Thanks, (I think) :) >>> Teresa >>> >>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. >>> Feynman >>> >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hello list, I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available today. Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Mavericks Is Free
Does this mean that iBooks for Mac will come with Mavericks, and that we will be able to read iBooks on our Macs today too? Or do we need to get iBooks for Mac from the app-store too? I'm guessing it'll be free as well, since iBooks is free on iPhones and such. Am I right? God Bless!!! Helena May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace. (Numbers 6;24) In Jesus' Name. Amen Helena Fehr helena.torch.li...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks is free.
Thanks for that, Chris. And yes, Helena, iBooks is part of the Mavericks oS. Teresa "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > Here's a web link to the same info: > > http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/22/apple-makes-os-x-mavericks-a-free-upgrade-available-today/ > > CB > > On 10/22/13 1:42 PM, Shen wrote: >> Yep, we can all laugh. >> And, it's true. I'm watching the Apple event live right now and they made >> the announcement about 20 minutes ago. >> It's not there yet because the event is not over. Give it a little time. It >> will be in the App Store for sure today. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran >> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:39 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mavericks is free. >> >> Uh, I google and find nothing about this, nor is it in the app store. Am I >> supposed to laugh now? Hahahaha. >> >> Thanks, (I think) :) >> Teresa >> >> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. >> Feynman >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hello list, >>> >>> I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available >> today. Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. >>> hth >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks Is Free
iBooks came with it. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda > On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Helena Fehr wrote: > > Does this mean that iBooks for Mac will come with Mavericks, and that we will > be able to read iBooks on our Macs today too? Or do we need to get iBooks for > Mac from the app-store too? I'm guessing it'll be free as well, since iBooks > is free on iPhones and such. Am I right? > > God Bless!!! >Helena > > May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of > you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace. > (Numbers 6;24) > > In Jesus' Name. > Amen > > Helena Fehr > helena.torch.li...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks Is Free
Hi. So, if I understood correctly, iWork is free on all *new* devices, correct? Also, I wonder when the new OSX will actually be available? Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com Assistive Technology Trainer IOS and Macintosh User support Windsor area On 2013-10-22, at 2:38 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > iBooks came with it. > > Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates > Louie P (Pete) Nalda > MySpace.com/musikonalda > Facebook.com/lpnalda > Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda > Twitter: @lpnalda > >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Helena Fehr >> wrote: >> >> Does this mean that iBooks for Mac will come with Mavericks, and that we >> will be able to read iBooks on our Macs today too? Or do we need to get >> iBooks for Mac from the app-store too? I'm guessing it'll be free as well, >> since iBooks is free on iPhones and such. Am I right? >> >> God Bless!!! >> Helena >> >> May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because >> of you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His >> peace. >> (Numbers 6;24) >> >> In Jesus' Name. >> Amen >> >> Helena Fehr >> helena.torch.li...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks Is Free
AS for when it will be available, sometime today. AS for Ibooks being free on all devices, yep. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > Hi. > So, if I understood correctly, iWork is free on all *new* devices, correct? > Also, I wonder when the new OSX will actually be available? > > Matt Dierckens > matt.dierck...@gmail.com > Assistive Technology Trainer > IOS and Macintosh User support > Windsor area > > > On 2013-10-22, at 2:38 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > >> iBooks came with it. >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates >> Louie P (Pete) Nalda >> MySpace.com/musikonalda >> Facebook.com/lpnalda >> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda >> Twitter: @lpnalda >> >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Helena Fehr >>> wrote: >>> >>> Does this mean that iBooks for Mac will come with Mavericks, and that we >>> will be able to read iBooks on our Macs today too? Or do we need to get >>> iBooks for Mac from the app-store too? I'm guessing it'll be free as well, >>> since iBooks is free on iPhones and such. Am I right? >>> >>> God Bless!!! >>> Helena >>> >>> May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because >>> of you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His >>> peace. >>> (Numbers 6;24) >>> >>> In Jesus' Name. >>> Amen >>> >>> Helena Fehr >>> helena.torch.li...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks Is Free
Mavericks will be available *today*. And yes, the alps will be free on *new* devices only. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > > Hi. > So, if I understood correctly, iWork is free on all *new* devices, correct? > Also, I wonder when the new OSX will actually be available? > > Matt Dierckens > matt.dierck...@gmail.com > Assistive Technology Trainer > IOS and Macintosh User support > Windsor area > > >> On 2013-10-22, at 2:38 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: >> >> iBooks came with it. >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates >> Louie P (Pete) Nalda >> MySpace.com/musikonalda >> Facebook.com/lpnalda >> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda >> Twitter: @lpnalda >> >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Helena Fehr >>> wrote: >>> >>> Does this mean that iBooks for Mac will come with Mavericks, and that we >>> will be able to read iBooks on our Macs today too? Or do we need to get >>> iBooks for Mac from the app-store too? I'm guessing it'll be free as well, >>> since iBooks is free on iPhones and such. Am I right? >>> >>> God Bless!!! >>> Helena >>> >>> May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because >>> of you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His >>> peace. >>> (Numbers 6;24) >>> >>> In Jesus' Name. >>> Amen >>> >>> Helena Fehr >>> helena.torch.li...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Mavericks available now
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Re: Mavericks Is Free
Try *now*! :) HtH, Teresa "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."--Groucho Marx On Oct 22, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: > Mavericks will be available *today*. And yes, the alps will be free on *new* > devices only. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: >> >> Hi. >> So, if I understood correctly, iWork is free on all *new* devices, correct? >> Also, I wonder when the new OSX will actually be available? >> >> Matt Dierckens >> matt.dierck...@gmail.com >> Assistive Technology Trainer >> IOS and Macintosh User support >> Windsor area >> >> >>> On 2013-10-22, at 2:38 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: >>> >>> iBooks came with it. >>> >>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates >>> Louie P (Pete) Nalda >>> MySpace.com/musikonalda >>> Facebook.com/lpnalda >>> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda >>> Twitter: @lpnalda >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Helena Fehr wrote: Does this mean that iBooks for Mac will come with Mavericks, and that we will be able to read iBooks on our Macs today too? Or do we need to get iBooks for Mac from the app-store too? I'm guessing it'll be free as well, since iBooks is free on iPhones and such. Am I right? God Bless!!! Helena May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace. (Numbers 6;24) In Jesus' Name. Amen Helena Fehr helena.torch.li...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks available now
hey, any changes or improvements to VO with the new OS? On 23/10/2013, at 6:07 AM, Edward Green wrote: > Subject line says it all. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks available now
Is it a free or paid upgrade? I will be curious to know how it works, but think I will wait until at least the first update in case there are any major bugs. Original message: Subject line says it all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks available now
It's free. Ed On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:19, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Is it a free or paid upgrade? I will be curious to know how it works, but > think I will wait until at least the first update in case there are any major > bugs. > Original message: >> Subject line says it all. > >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks available now
Hi Michael, It's still downloading and I haven't found any early podcasts yet, so I'm still waiting to see - I'll let you know what I find. Ed On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:15, Michael Marshall wrote: > hey, > any changes or improvements to VO with the new OS? > On 23/10/2013, at 6:07 AM, Edward Green wrote: > >> Subject line says it all. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks available now
thanks for that. i just don't want to update the OS to find it so buggy that i can't use it. On 23/10/2013, at 7:23 AM, Edward Green wrote: > Hi Michael, > > It's still downloading and I haven't found any early podcasts yet, so I'm > still waiting to see - I'll let you know what I find. > > Ed > On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:15, Michael Marshall wrote: > >> hey, >> any changes or improvements to VO with the new OS? >> On 23/10/2013, at 6:07 AM, Edward Green wrote: >> >>> Subject line says it all. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
First impressions of Mavericks
Hello, I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed before it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks on iOS, or Kindle, if you use that. Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know my findings. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: First impressions of Mavericks
Hello, Yes. ibooks does need a lot of waork accessibility wise. I do think its usable though. But it feels very much like a beta product. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > Hello, > > I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as > accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. > iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky > interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed before > it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks on iOS, or > Kindle, if you use that. > Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know my > findings. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Enabling Assistive Devices Help.
Hello Everyone, >From performing a google search on the Internet, I have found that enabling >assistive devices with Mavericks is done from within “Security and Privacy.” However, when accessing this area I do not see a feature that would allow me to enable assistive devices for applications i.e. Text Expander. Does any one have any suggestions? Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: First impressions of Mavericks
Oh that reminds me, is the Kindle app on the mac itself accessible? I haven't loaded it onto the mac Book Pro yet. Thanks. On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > Hello, > > I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as > accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. > iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky > interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed before > it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks on iOS, or > Kindle, if you use that. > Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know my > findings. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: First impressions of Mavericks
It wasn't the last time I'd checked. Maybe it will be accessible next May? Jane On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Tim Emmons wrote: > Oh that reminds me, is the Kindle app on the mac itself accessible? I haven't > loaded it onto the mac Book Pro yet. Thanks. > On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as >> accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. >> iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky >> interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed >> before it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks on >> iOS, or Kindle, if you use that. >> Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know my >> findings. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: First impressions of Mavericks
Hello, No it is not. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:48 PM, Tim Emmons wrote: > Oh that reminds me, is the Kindle app on the mac itself accessible? I haven't > loaded it onto the mac Book Pro yet. Thanks. > On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as >> accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. >> iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky >> interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed >> before it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks on >> iOS, or Kindle, if you use that. >> Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know my >> findings. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
pages and tables.
Hello, I just updated Pages to version 5.0. It is nice to finally have access to tables in pages. So far so good. Voiceover accessibility seems much improved. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: First impressions of Mavericks
I completely aggree about iBooks. It’s not a VoiceOver ready app at all! Too bad! You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > Hello, > > I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as > accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. > iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky > interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed before > it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks on iOS, or > Kindle, if you use that. > Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know my > findings. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: First impressions of Mavericks
Hi, Actually the unlabeled buttons not with standing, iBooks is quite usable with Voiceover. Make sure that you have list selected. I’ve also have been able to download a sample chapter of an iBooks version of a book I have in PDF, and it is much better. The app certainly needs a little work, but you shouldn’t give up on it too soon. On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hello, I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed before it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks on iOS, or Kindle, if you use that. Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know my findings. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Enabling Assistive Devices Help.
Hi, Go into security and privacy/privacy and select accessibility from the list. Then you can enable an application. On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Emilio Hernandez wrote: Hello Everyone, >From performing a google search on the Internet, I have found that enabling >assistive devices with Mavericks is done from within “Security and Privacy.” However, when accessing this area I do not see a feature that would allow me to enable assistive devices for applications i.e. Text Expander. Does any one have any suggestions? Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: prospective subscribers not allowed to join this group?
The error is Google saying they don't have permission to join. I'm just not sure how to tell people to join, and if they need a gmail address or not. On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I haven't caught part of this thread, unfortunately. What is the error > message they're getting? This might be an instance for contacting the > moderators with the problem off-list, as you might get a quicker response. > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!contactowner/macvisionaries > > Once you confirm your email address, you then have to wait for the moderator > to approve you. > > HtH, > Teresa > > On the other hand, there are different fingers. > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> I never joined this list with a Gmail account. Why not go to Google and put >> in the E-mail address you prefer as that is what I did and had no problem at >> the time. >> >> Kawal. >> >> Sent from my I phone >> >> On 22 Oct 2013, at 03:50 pm, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> I have been telling people to email >>> macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com, and they all get the error >>> message about not being able to join. People shouldn't need a Gmail account >>> to join a list. What, then, is the correct subscription address? Joining >>> has always been a huge problem for this list, and I always hesitate to >>> recommend it as a resource simply because of the trouble everyone always >>> has in signing up. When you, Chris, said you were able to approve join >>> requests I was relieved, but I guess I'm still missing something... >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>> Sorry for the delay. I was traveling this weekend and am just now catching up on email. Anyone can join the group, there is just an approval process to weed out spammers. I have not found any join requests in my inbox to approve. It's been years since I joined this list so I'm a bit fuzzy on the steps but you should just login with your google credentials (or create an account) and then when you navigate to the MacVisionaries list an "Apply to join group" button should be added to the top of the page just before the first message. I think the trick was that the join button doesn't show up unless you are already logged in. CB On 10/20/13 7:29 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > Hi all, > A few people on the ViPhone list want to join this list. They are getting > errors from Google saying that this is an invite-only list and they > cannot subscribe. Why is that? I thought this list was only moderated, so > new subscribers would have to be okayed by a mod. How are people supposed > to subscribe now? > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> mehg...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscrib
Re: First impressions of Mavericks
Honestly, I am beginning to think it might be high time to have a list discussion on what defines accessible and usable. One user says it's not at all accessible while another says it's doable. Perhaps we might want to do a litlte something about clearing this up? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > Hi, > > Actually the unlabeled buttons not with standing, iBooks is quite usable with > Voiceover. Make sure that you have list selected. I’ve also have been able > to download a sample chapter of an iBooks version of a book I have in PDF, > and it is much better. The app certainly needs a little work, but you > shouldn’t give up on it too soon. > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > > Hello, > > I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as > accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. > iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky > interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed before > it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks on iOS, or > Kindle, if you use that. > Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know my > findings. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: prospective subscribers not allowed to join this group?
>From what I understand, in order to join this list, the list moderater must >now approve all would be members. The bad part about this is that if the >moderater is never arround, forget it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > The error is Google saying they don't have permission to join. I'm just not > sure how to tell people to join, and if they need a gmail address or not. > On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:08 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote: > >> I haven't caught part of this thread, unfortunately. What is the error >> message they're getting? This might be an instance for contacting the >> moderators with the problem off-list, as you might get a quicker response. >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!contactowner/macvisionaries >> >> Once you confirm your email address, you then have to wait for the moderator >> to approve you. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> On the other hand, there are different fingers. >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >>> I never joined this list with a Gmail account. Why not go to Google and put >>> in the E-mail address you prefer as that is what I did and had no problem >>> at the time. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> Sent from my I phone >>> >>> On 22 Oct 2013, at 03:50 pm, Alex Hall wrote: >>> I have been telling people to email macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com, and they all get the error message about not being able to join. People shouldn't need a Gmail account to join a list. What, then, is the correct subscription address? Joining has always been a huge problem for this list, and I always hesitate to recommend it as a resource simply because of the trouble everyone always has in signing up. When you, Chris, said you were able to approve join requests I was relieved, but I guess I'm still missing something... On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > Sorry for the delay. I was traveling this weekend and am just now > catching up on email. > > Anyone can join the group, there is just an approval process to weed out > spammers. I have not found any join requests in my inbox to approve. It's > been years since I joined this list so I'm a bit fuzzy on the steps but > you should just login with your google credentials (or create an account) > and then when you navigate to the MacVisionaries list an "Apply to join > group" button should be added to the top of the page just before the > first message. I think the trick was that the join button doesn't show up > unless you are already logged in. > > CB > > On 10/20/13 7:29 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >> Hi all, >> A few people on the ViPhone list want to join this list. They are >> getting errors from Google saying that this is an invite-only list and >> they cannot subscribe. Why is that? I thought this list was only >> moderated, so new subscribers would have to be okayed by a mod. How are >> people supposed to subscribe now? >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message becaus
Re: First impressions of Mavericks
The question I have is: are there help labels for each button? For me, if a button is labeled with the help tag, I can at least label it myself and then the app is usable. It isn't perfect, but it is better than nothing. On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Honestly, I am beginning to think it might be high time to have a list > discussion on what defines accessible and usable. One user says it's not at > all accessible while another says it's doable. Perhaps we might want to do a > litlte something about clearing this up? > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Actually the unlabeled buttons not with standing, iBooks is quite usable >> with Voiceover. Make sure that you have list selected. I’ve also have been >> able to download a sample chapter of an iBooks version of a book I have in >> PDF, and it is much better. The app certainly needs a little work, but you >> shouldn’t give up on it too soon. >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as >> accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. >> iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky >> interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed >> before it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks on >> iOS, or Kindle, if you use that. >> Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know my >> findings. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Solving captures on a mac?
Dear List, How do you solve captures on a mac? On my PC I use Firefox and Webvisum. I have not received my ordered macbook yet, but I wanted to know the answer. I also would like to know if any of you are using the password app called Keepass on a mac? Thanks, Rob You can leave me a voice mail or fax at 206-426-3505 "God is good all the time, & All the time God is good" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: First impressions of Mavericks
The buttons in question are not labeled nor do they have help tags, but other than the fact that it is stupid for them not to have done it, it doesn’t matter. I’m sure that they are in the menus. You have a row of radio buttons that are labeled, and the only on that will work for you is the list. The other views are not accessible. I am very dissatisfied with that, but it isn’t a show stopper. I can find a book in the iBooks store, download it, and find it in my library. Then I can read it. I don’t know about accessibility of all iBooks, but the sample chapter I got is from a very problematic pdf that I have been using. I’ve also been able to add pdfs to my library. So, while it deffinately needs to be better, it is inaccurate to say that it is unusable. On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:53 PM, Alex Hall wrote: The question I have is: are there help labels for each button? For me, if a button is labeled with the help tag, I can at least label it myself and then the app is usable. It isn't perfect, but it is better than nothing. On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Honestly, I am beginning to think it might be high time to have a list > discussion on what defines accessible and usable. One user says it's not at > all accessible while another says it's doable. Perhaps we might want to do a > litlte something about clearing this up? > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Actually the unlabeled buttons not with standing, iBooks is quite usable >> with Voiceover. Make sure that you have list selected. I’ve also have been >> able to download a sample chapter of an iBooks version of a book I have in >> PDF, and it is much better. The app certainly needs a little work, but you >> shouldn’t give up on it too soon. >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as >> accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. >> iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky >> interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed >> before it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks on >> iOS, or Kindle, if you use that. >> Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know my >> findings. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks is free.
when you go to updates under the app store its there. laura Ann On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Uh, I google and find nothing about this, nor is it in the app store. Am I > supposed to laugh now? Hahahaha. > > Thanks, (I think) :) > Teresa > > "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. > Feynman > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hello list, >> >> I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available today. >> Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. >> >> hth >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
VO seems better was:Re: First impressions of Mavericks
hey, have just put the new OS on and all reddy i see a difference. hard to put my finger on but in some parts VO just seems more descriptive. some of the voices have got updates to install as well so i look forward to having a look at that. On 23 Oct 2013, at 10:41 am, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Honestly, I am beginning to think it might be high time to have a list > discussion on what defines accessible and usable. One user says it's not at > all accessible while another says it's doable. Perhaps we might want to do a > litlte something about clearing this up? > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Actually the unlabeled buttons not with standing, iBooks is quite usable >> with Voiceover. Make sure that you have list selected. I’ve also have been >> able to download a sample chapter of an iBooks version of a book I have in >> PDF, and it is much better. The app certainly needs a little work, but you >> shouldn’t give up on it too soon. >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as >> accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. >> iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky >> interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed >> before it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks on >> iOS, or Kindle, if you use that. >> Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know my >> findings. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO seems better was:Re: First impressions of Mavericks
Okay, now please do me a favor and give me a reason to go dancing in the streets... Tell me they did something about the whole "1 row added" thing that has driven so many of us insane... Please, tell me they did *something* about that. On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Michael Marshall wrote: > hey, > have just put the new OS on and all reddy i see a difference. hard to put my > finger on but in some parts VO just seems more descriptive. some of the > voices have got updates to install as well so i look forward to having a look > at that. > On 23 Oct 2013, at 10:41 am, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Honestly, I am beginning to think it might be high time to have a list >> discussion on what defines accessible and usable. One user says it's not at >> all accessible while another says it's doable. Perhaps we might want to do >> a litlte something about clearing this up? >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Actually the unlabeled buttons not with standing, iBooks is quite usable >>> with Voiceover. Make sure that you have list selected. I’ve also have >>> been able to download a sample chapter of an iBooks version of a book I >>> have in PDF, and it is much better. The app certainly needs a little >>> work, but you shouldn’t give up on it too soon. >>> >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as >>> accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. >>> iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky >>> interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed >>> before it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks on >>> iOS, or Kindle, if you use that. >>> Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know >>> my findings. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
safari, virtual windows and mavericks
Hi there everyone. I’m not sure if this is a safari issue or if it’s new with mavericks, but any help would be appreciated if someone knows how to fix it. First with Safari now whenever I’m moving around a page on the web it says clickable, for example May clickable. It did not do this before and I’m wondering how do you turn this off? It’s going to drive me nuts? Second regarding virtual windows. If I’m on the mac side of things it has now greatly reduced the volume of speech on windows, but the volume is fine when I switch to the windows window. Any idea on how to fix this as well? This is another issue I did not have before upgrading to Mavericks. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks is free.
I just downloaded mine but am going to do a clean install as I've not cleaned up my IMac since I bought it in January. On 23 Oct 2013, at 01:16, Laura ann Grymes wrote: > when you go to updates under the app store its there. > laura Ann > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote: > >> Uh, I google and find nothing about this, nor is it in the app store. Am I >> supposed to laugh now? Hahahaha. >> >> Thanks, (I think) :) >> Teresa >> >> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. >> Feynman >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hello list, >>> >>> I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available >>> today. Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: safari, virtual windows and mavericks
Hi May. I can only answer the second question. The reason its lowering the volume is because there is a new setting in the sound category of VO utility called audio ducking. I would uncheck that box. Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com Assistive Technology Trainer IOS and Macintosh User support Windsor area On 2013-10-22, at 8:30 PM, May and Noah wrote: > Hi there everyone. I’m not sure if this is a safari issue or if it’s new with > mavericks, but any help would be appreciated if someone knows how to fix it. > > First with Safari now whenever I’m moving around a page on the web it says > clickable, for example May clickable. It did not do this before and I’m > wondering how do you turn this off? It’s going to drive me nuts? > > Second regarding virtual windows. If I’m on the mac side of things it has now > greatly reduced the volume of speech on windows, but the volume is fine when > I switch to the windows window. Any idea on how to fix this as well? This is > another issue I did not have before upgrading to Mavericks. > > May and Prince Noah > www.canadianlynx.ca > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks is free.
What's the advantage to upgrading as opposed to doing a clean install, and can you upgrade straight to Mavrix from Lion, or do you have to upgrade to mountain lion first? On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > I just downloaded mine but am going to do a clean install as I've not cleaned > up my IMac since I bought it in January. > On 23 Oct 2013, at 01:16, Laura ann Grymes wrote: > >> when you go to updates under the app store its there. >> laura Ann >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Teresa Cochran >> wrote: >> >>> Uh, I google and find nothing about this, nor is it in the app store. Am I >>> supposed to laugh now? Hahahaha. >>> >>> Thanks, (I think) :) >>> Teresa >>> >>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. >>> Feynman >>> >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hello list, I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available today. Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO seems better was:Re: First impressions of Mavericks
i don’t know about that as yet but i don’t think so some how. something new in VLC with VO i found interesting, if VO speeks when you are listening to something the music turns down when speech is on and turns back up when VO is done talking. On 23 Oct 2013, at 11:20 am, Alex Hall wrote: > Okay, now please do me a favor and give me a reason to go dancing in the > streets... Tell me they did something about the whole "1 row added" thing > that has driven so many of us insane... Please, tell me they did *something* > about that. > On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Michael Marshall > wrote: > >> hey, >> have just put the new OS on and all reddy i see a difference. hard to put my >> finger on but in some parts VO just seems more descriptive. some of the >> voices have got updates to install as well so i look forward to having a >> look at that. >> On 23 Oct 2013, at 10:41 am, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> Honestly, I am beginning to think it might be high time to have a list >>> discussion on what defines accessible and usable. One user says it's not >>> at all accessible while another says it's doable. Perhaps we might want to >>> do a litlte something about clearing this up? >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>> >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: >>> Hi, Actually the unlabeled buttons not with standing, iBooks is quite usable with Voiceover. Make sure that you have list selected. I’ve also have been able to download a sample chapter of an iBooks version of a book I have in PDF, and it is much better. The app certainly needs a little work, but you shouldn’t give up on it too soon. On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hello, I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed before it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks on iOS, or Kindle, if you use that. Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know my findings. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group.
Re: Mavericks available now
I guess it's free to all those who have purchased mountain lion. Hopefully you can still do a clean install, I prefer to start from scratch any time there is a major new version of the operating system. On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Edward Green wrote: > It's free. > > Ed > On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:19, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> Is it a free or paid upgrade? I will be curious to know how it works, but >> think I will wait until at least the first update in case there are any >> major bugs. >> Original message: >>> Subject line says it all. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks available now
That's why I prefer to wait until at least the first major update. On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Michael Marshall wrote: > thanks for that. > i just don't want to update the OS to find it so buggy that i can't use it. > On 23/10/2013, at 7:23 AM, Edward Green wrote: > >> Hi Michael, >> >> It's still downloading and I haven't found any early podcasts yet, so I'm >> still waiting to see - I'll let you know what I find. >> >> Ed >> On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:15, Michael Marshall wrote: >> >>> hey, >>> any changes or improvements to VO with the new OS? >>> On 23/10/2013, at 6:07 AM, Edward Green wrote: >>> Subject line says it all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO seems better was:Re: First impressions of Mavericks
Yes, auto-ducking is finally on the Mac. Apparently there's a checkbox to control that if you don't like it. On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Michael Marshall wrote: > i don’t know about that as yet but i don’t think so some how. > something new in VLC with VO i found interesting, if VO speeks when you are > listening to something the music turns down when speech is on and turns back > up when VO is done talking. > On 23 Oct 2013, at 11:20 am, Alex Hall wrote: > >> Okay, now please do me a favor and give me a reason to go dancing in the >> streets... Tell me they did something about the whole "1 row added" thing >> that has driven so many of us insane... Please, tell me they did *something* >> about that. >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Michael Marshall >> wrote: >> >>> hey, >>> have just put the new OS on and all reddy i see a difference. hard to put >>> my finger on but in some parts VO just seems more descriptive. some of the >>> voices have got updates to install as well so i look forward to having a >>> look at that. >>> On 23 Oct 2013, at 10:41 am, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> Honestly, I am beginning to think it might be high time to have a list discussion on what defines accessible and usable. One user says it's not at all accessible while another says it's doable. Perhaps we might want to do a litlte something about clearing this up? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > Hi, > > Actually the unlabeled buttons not with standing, iBooks is quite usable > with Voiceover. Make sure that you have list selected. I’ve also have > been able to download a sample chapter of an iBooks version of a book I > have in PDF, and it is much better. The app certainly needs a little > work, but you shouldn’t give up on it too soon. > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > > Hello, > > I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as > accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. > iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky > interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed > before it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks > on iOS, or Kindle, if you use that. > Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know > my findings. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email t
Regarding clean installs…
Hi all, What is this about a clean install? I have a 320gb external drive doing nothing and have never used Time Machine. Should I do a backup onto that first, given that I also have Crashplan? Ho, exactly, does one do a clean install without losing all installed apps (and more importantly, non-App Store activations, app preferences, system settings, and so on)? Id did not do a clean install going from 10.7 to 10.8, so should I worry about doing so now? Any information would be great. Thank you. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO seems better was:Re: First impressions of Mavericks
VO is much better on the net EG if you back out of a page it remembers where you were but who knows if it will remember all the time. On 23 Oct 2013, at 12:05 pm, Alex Hall wrote: > Yes, auto-ducking is finally on the Mac. Apparently there's a checkbox to > control that if you don't like it. > On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Michael Marshall > wrote: > >> i don’t know about that as yet but i don’t think so some how. >> something new in VLC with VO i found interesting, if VO speeks when you are >> listening to something the music turns down when speech is on and turns back >> up when VO is done talking. >> On 23 Oct 2013, at 11:20 am, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> Okay, now please do me a favor and give me a reason to go dancing in the >>> streets... Tell me they did something about the whole "1 row added" thing >>> that has driven so many of us insane... Please, tell me they did >>> *something* about that. >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Michael Marshall >>> wrote: >>> hey, have just put the new OS on and all reddy i see a difference. hard to put my finger on but in some parts VO just seems more descriptive. some of the voices have got updates to install as well so i look forward to having a look at that. On 23 Oct 2013, at 10:41 am, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Honestly, I am beginning to think it might be high time to have a list > discussion on what defines accessible and usable. One user says it's not > at all accessible while another says it's doable. Perhaps we might want > to do a litlte something about clearing this up? > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Actually the unlabeled buttons not with standing, iBooks is quite usable >> with Voiceover. Make sure that you have list selected. I’ve also have >> been able to download a sample chapter of an iBooks version of a book I >> have in PDF, and it is much better. The app certainly needs a little >> work, but you shouldn’t give up on it too soon. >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as >> accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away. >> iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely >> quirky interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be >> fixed before it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to >> iBooks on iOS, or Kindle, if you use that. >> Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people >> know my findings. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> mehg...@gmail.com >>> >>
Mavericks download time?
It has been downloading for some time, and I cannot find a progress indicator. How long has it been for folks? Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks download time?
Hi, to get a progress update, from the Mac app store press Command 4 to go to purchases. You can then press VO command H to navigate by headings until you get to Mavericks, and VO right arrow to the progress info. If it’s going extremely slo, like saying the download will be complete in 18 hours or something like that, try pressing the pause button, wait a few seconds and press resume. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > It has been downloading for some time, and I cannot find a progress > indicator. How long has it been for folks? > Christine > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks download time?
Great. Thanks. On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > to get a progress update, from the Mac app store press Command 4 to go to > purchases. You can then press VO command H to navigate by headings until you > get to Mavericks, and VO right arrow to the progress info. If it’s going > extremely slo, like saying the download will be complete in 18 hours or > something like that, try pressing the pause button, wait a few seconds and > press resume. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> It has been downloading for some time, and I cannot find a progress >> indicator. How long has it been for folks? >> Christine >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks available now
Hello, No. Its free to pretty much anyone. Going as far back as snow leopard. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > I guess it's free to all those who have purchased mountain lion. Hopefully > you can still do a clean install, I prefer to start from scratch any time > there is a major new version of the operating system. > On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Edward Green wrote: > >> It's free. >> >> Ed >> On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:19, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> Is it a free or paid upgrade? I will be curious to know how it works, but >>> think I will wait until at least the first update in case there are any >>> major bugs. >>> Original message: Subject line says it all. >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Poor mail Experience. Any way to Tweak?
Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks. Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping I’ve just missed a setting to make it stop. In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the sender, and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now it seems the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just slows me down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off. Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the old behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very beginning. And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to read by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it seems a first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing that once took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is a bug. I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the chatty behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM. Thanks for any thoughts. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: safari, virtual windows and mavericks
Would I be right in guessing that this audio ducking has to do with Voice Over causing the primary audio to be ducked under like on the Iphone? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > Hi May. > I can only answer the second question. > The reason its lowering the volume is because there is a new setting in the > sound category of VO utility called audio ducking. I would uncheck that box. > > Matt Dierckens > matt.dierck...@gmail.com > Assistive Technology Trainer > IOS and Macintosh User support > Windsor area > > > On 2013-10-22, at 8:30 PM, May and Noah wrote: > >> Hi there everyone. I’m not sure if this is a safari issue or if it’s new >> with mavericks, but any help would be appreciated if someone knows how to >> fix it. >> >> First with Safari now whenever I’m moving around a page on the web it says >> clickable, for example May clickable. It did not do this before and I’m >> wondering how do you turn this off? It’s going to drive me nuts? >> >> Second regarding virtual windows. If I’m on the mac side of things it has >> now greatly reduced the volume of speech on windows, but the volume is fine >> when I switch to the windows window. Any idea on how to fix this as well? >> This is another issue I did not have before upgrading to Mavericks. >> >> May and Prince Noah >> www.canadianlynx.ca >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Poor mail Experience. Any way to Tweak?
I am not running OS 10.9 yet, but it sounds like you have disabled Classic View. I don't use that feature, but what you describe - the ability to decide exactly what get spoken with each message - is Classic View behavior. Open Mail Preferences, and see if you can find the Classic View setting checkbox. That might work, I am not sure. On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks. > Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping I’ve > just missed a setting to make it stop. > In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the sender, > and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now it seems > the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just slows me > down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off. > Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, > after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the old > behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very beginning. > And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to read > by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it seems a > first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing that once > took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is a bug. > I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the chatty > behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM. > Thanks for any thoughts. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: safari, virtual windows and mavericks
As I understand it, yes. As to the virtual Windows problem, I assume you're using fusion? If so, have you updated to the latest version, which has support for OS 10.9? On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Would I be right in guessing that this audio ducking has to do with Voice > Over causing the primary audio to be ducked under like on the Iphone? > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > >> Hi May. >> I can only answer the second question. >> The reason its lowering the volume is because there is a new setting in the >> sound category of VO utility called audio ducking. I would uncheck that box. >> >> Matt Dierckens >> matt.dierck...@gmail.com >> Assistive Technology Trainer >> IOS and Macintosh User support >> Windsor area >> >> >> On 2013-10-22, at 8:30 PM, May and Noah wrote: >> >>> Hi there everyone. I’m not sure if this is a safari issue or if it’s new >>> with mavericks, but any help would be appreciated if someone knows how to >>> fix it. >>> >>> First with Safari now whenever I’m moving around a page on the web it says >>> clickable, for example May clickable. It did not do this before and I’m >>> wondering how do you turn this off? It’s going to drive me nuts? >>> >>> Second regarding virtual windows. If I’m on the mac side of things it has >>> now greatly reduced the volume of speech on windows, but the volume is fine >>> when I switch to the windows window. Any idea on how to fix this as well? >>> This is another issue I did not have before upgrading to Mavericks. >>> >>> May and Prince Noah >>> www.canadianlynx.ca >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Poor mail Experience. Any way to Tweak?
Thanks very much for that Alex. I have never used Classic View before today, but you’re right, enabling it has allowed me to turn some of this stuff off. I do wish VO didn’t speak the field before the contents of each field, but at least it’s a little better than what I had. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 23/10/2013, at 2:30 pm, Alex Hall wrote: > I am not running OS 10.9 yet, but it sounds like you have disabled Classic > View. I don't use that feature, but what you describe - the ability to decide > exactly what get spoken with each message - is Classic View behavior. Open > Mail Preferences, and see if you can find the Classic View setting checkbox. > That might work, I am not sure. > On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > >> Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks. >> Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping I’ve >> just missed a setting to make it stop. >> In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the >> sender, and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now >> it seems the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just >> slows me down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off. >> Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, >> after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the old >> behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very beginning. >> And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to >> read by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it >> seems a first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing >> that once took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is a >> bug. >> I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the >> chatty behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM. >> Thanks for any thoughts. >> Jonathan Mosen >> Mosen Consulting >> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >> http://Mosen.org >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks is free.
You will be able to upgrade from mountain lion. I'm doing my installation right now. Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Oct 2013, at 6:38 pm, Jessica Moss wrote: > > What's the advantage to upgrading as opposed to doing a clean install, and > can you upgrade straight to Mavrix from Lion, or do you have to upgrade to > mountain lion first? >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >> I just downloaded mine but am going to do a clean install as I've not >> cleaned up my IMac since I bought it in January. >>> On 23 Oct 2013, at 01:16, Laura ann Grymes wrote: >>> >>> when you go to updates under the app store its there. >>> laura Ann >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Uh, I google and find nothing about this, nor is it in the app store. Am I supposed to laugh now? Hahahaha. Thanks, (I think) :) Teresa "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman > On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > Hello list, > > I thought you would all like to know Mavericks is free, and available > today. Even if your running an older OS like Snow Leopard. > > hth > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
delting files in mavericks?
Hi, I upgraded to mavericks tonight, something I usually don’t do!. anyway, some of the keystrokes might’ve changed, but when I checked, sure enough, the one for deletion of a file is supposedly still command delete, but mine isn’t working, I get an annoying bonk sound. I checked in the sharing option of preferences, and also users and groups just inc axe for some reason I am not considered an admin, but I am there as one. What else can I try? I am trying to get rid of an annoying app I got but now don’t want? thanks, Cait -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: delting files in mavericks?
Hi, are you trying to delete the app from your apps folder? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Cait and Maggie wrote: > Hi, > I upgraded to mavericks tonight, something I usually don’t do!. > > anyway, some of the keystrokes might’ve changed, but when I checked, sure > enough, the one for deletion of a file is supposedly still command delete, > but mine isn’t working, I get an annoying bonk sound. > > I checked in the sharing option of preferences, and also users and groups > just inc axe for some reason I am not considered an admin, but I am there as > one. > > What else can I try? > > I am trying to get rid of an annoying app I got but now don’t want? > > thanks, > Cait > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: safari, virtual windows and mavericks
Correct. This can be toggled on/off in Voiceover utilities under sound Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Would I be right in guessing that this audio ducking has to do with Voice > Over causing the primary audio to be ducked under like on the Iphone? > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > >> Hi May. >> I can only answer the second question. >> The reason its lowering the volume is because there is a new setting in the >> sound category of VO utility called audio ducking. I would uncheck that box. >> >> Matt Dierckens >> matt.dierck...@gmail.com >> Assistive Technology Trainer >> IOS and Macintosh User support >> Windsor area >> >> >> On 2013-10-22, at 8:30 PM, May and Noah wrote: >> >>> Hi there everyone. I’m not sure if this is a safari issue or if it’s new >>> with mavericks, but any help would be appreciated if someone knows how to >>> fix it. >>> >>> First with Safari now whenever I’m moving around a page on the web it says >>> clickable, for example May clickable. It did not do this before and I’m >>> wondering how do you turn this off? It’s going to drive me nuts? >>> >>> Second regarding virtual windows. If I’m on the mac side of things it has >>> now greatly reduced the volume of speech on windows, but the volume is fine >>> when I switch to the windows window. Any idea on how to fix this as well? >>> This is another issue I did not have before upgrading to Mavericks. >>> >>> May and Prince Noah >>> www.canadianlynx.ca >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Poor mail Experience. Any way to Tweak?
hey all, i’m using mail and when i hit VO J to interact with a message first it will say “interact with enbedded” if i do it a second time i interact with text. to get back to the message table i have to VO J twice. still usible but strange. Michael On 23 Oct 2013, at 12:39 pm, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > Thanks very much for that Alex. > I have never used Classic View before today, but you’re right, enabling it > has allowed me to turn some of this stuff off. I do wish VO didn’t speak the > field before the contents of each field, but at least it’s a little better > than what I had. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > On 23/10/2013, at 2:30 pm, Alex Hall wrote: > >> I am not running OS 10.9 yet, but it sounds like you have disabled Classic >> View. I don't use that feature, but what you describe - the ability to >> decide exactly what get spoken with each message - is Classic View behavior. >> Open Mail Preferences, and see if you can find the Classic View setting >> checkbox. That might work, I am not sure. >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks. >>> Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping >>> I’ve just missed a setting to make it stop. >>> In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the >>> sender, and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now >>> it seems the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just >>> slows me down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off. >>> Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, >>> after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the >>> old behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very >>> beginning. >>> And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to >>> read by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it >>> seems a first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing >>> that once took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is >>> a bug. >>> I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the >>> chatty behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM. >>> Thanks for any thoughts. >>> Jonathan Mosen >>> Mosen Consulting >>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>> http://Mosen.org >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: safari, virtual windows and mavericks
Oh, thank you very much. That did fix that problem, whew. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > Hi May. > I can only answer the second question. > The reason its lowering the volume is because there is a new setting in the > sound category of VO utility called audio ducking. I would uncheck that box. > > Matt Dierckens > matt.dierck...@gmail.com > Assistive Technology Trainer > IOS and Macintosh User support > Windsor area > > > On 2013-10-22, at 8:30 PM, May and Noah wrote: > >> Hi there everyone. I’m not sure if this is a safari issue or if it’s new >> with mavericks, but any help would be appreciated if someone knows how to >> fix it. >> >> First with Safari now whenever I’m moving around a page on the web it says >> clickable, for example May clickable. It did not do this before and I’m >> wondering how do you turn this off? It’s going to drive me nuts? >> >> Second regarding virtual windows. If I’m on the mac side of things it has >> now greatly reduced the volume of speech on windows, but the volume is fine >> when I switch to the windows window. Any idea on how to fix this as well? >> This is another issue I did not have before upgrading to Mavericks. >> >> May and Prince Noah >> www.canadianlynx.ca >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: safari, virtual windows and mavericks
Oh yes, I do have the latest fusion and thanks for the suggestions, it’s all fixed now. Now to figure out the safari thing. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > As I understand it, yes. As to the virtual Windows problem, I assume you're > using fusion? If so, have you updated to the latest version, which has > support for OS 10.9? > On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Would I be right in guessing that this audio ducking has to do with Voice >> Over causing the primary audio to be ducked under like on the Iphone? >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: >> >>> Hi May. >>> I can only answer the second question. >>> The reason its lowering the volume is because there is a new setting in the >>> sound category of VO utility called audio ducking. I would uncheck that box. >>> >>> Matt Dierckens >>> matt.dierck...@gmail.com >>> Assistive Technology Trainer >>> IOS and Macintosh User support >>> Windsor area >>> >>> >>> On 2013-10-22, at 8:30 PM, May and Noah wrote: >>> Hi there everyone. I’m not sure if this is a safari issue or if it’s new with mavericks, but any help would be appreciated if someone knows how to fix it. First with Safari now whenever I’m moving around a page on the web it says clickable, for example May clickable. It did not do this before and I’m wondering how do you turn this off? It’s going to drive me nuts? Second regarding virtual windows. If I’m on the mac side of things it has now greatly reduced the volume of speech on windows, but the volume is fine when I switch to the windows window. Any idea on how to fix this as well? This is another issue I did not have before upgrading to Mavericks. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Anyone using Aftershokz bluetooth headset!
Hi! OK I was wondering if anyone has the Bluetooth version of the Aftershokz headset and if so do they have the same problem as others! Like a delay that inter fears with Apps like Blind square or that they really work well with Voice over? Thanks all! Colin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Poor mail Experience. Any way to Tweak?
I can confirm this Michael, but it behaves itself if you want to use the classic view. Would be worth reporting it as a bug though. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 23/10/2013, at 3:38 pm, Michael Marshall wrote: > hey all, > i’m using mail and when i hit VO J to interact with a message first it will > say “interact with enbedded” if i do it a second time i interact with text. > to get back to the message table i have to VO J twice. still usible but > strange. > > Michael > On 23 Oct 2013, at 12:39 pm, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > >> Thanks very much for that Alex. >> I have never used Classic View before today, but you’re right, enabling it >> has allowed me to turn some of this stuff off. I do wish VO didn’t speak the >> field before the contents of each field, but at least it’s a little better >> than what I had. >> Jonathan Mosen >> Mosen Consulting >> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >> http://Mosen.org >> >> On 23/10/2013, at 2:30 pm, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> I am not running OS 10.9 yet, but it sounds like you have disabled Classic >>> View. I don't use that feature, but what you describe - the ability to >>> decide exactly what get spoken with each message - is Classic View >>> behavior. Open Mail Preferences, and see if you can find the Classic View >>> setting checkbox. That might work, I am not sure. >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>> Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks. Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping I’ve just missed a setting to make it stop. In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the sender, and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now it seems the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just slows me down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off. Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the old behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very beginning. And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to read by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it seems a first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing that once took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is a bug. I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the chatty behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM. Thanks for any thoughts. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> mehg...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe fr
finder very slow was:Re: Poor mail Experience. Any way to Tweak?
hey, mail isn’t the only thing acting up. finder is taking a very long time to get going. i hit cmd shift O for documents and it is saying bizzy for a long time. On 23 Oct 2013, at 1:49 pm, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > I can confirm this Michael, but it behaves itself if you want to use the > classic view. Would be worth reporting it as a bug though. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > On 23/10/2013, at 3:38 pm, Michael Marshall wrote: > >> hey all, >> i’m using mail and when i hit VO J to interact with a message first it will >> say “interact with enbedded” if i do it a second time i interact with text. >> to get back to the message table i have to VO J twice. still usible but >> strange. >> >> Michael >> On 23 Oct 2013, at 12:39 pm, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >> >>> Thanks very much for that Alex. >>> I have never used Classic View before today, but you’re right, enabling it >>> has allowed me to turn some of this stuff off. I do wish VO didn’t speak >>> the field before the contents of each field, but at least it’s a little >>> better than what I had. >>> Jonathan Mosen >>> Mosen Consulting >>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>> http://Mosen.org >>> >>> On 23/10/2013, at 2:30 pm, Alex Hall wrote: >>> I am not running OS 10.9 yet, but it sounds like you have disabled Classic View. I don't use that feature, but what you describe - the ability to decide exactly what get spoken with each message - is Classic View behavior. Open Mail Preferences, and see if you can find the Classic View setting checkbox. That might work, I am not sure. On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks. > Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping > I’ve just missed a setting to make it stop. > In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the > sender, and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. > Now it seems the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that > just slows me down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off. > Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the > end, after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer > the old behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very > beginning. > And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to > read by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now > it seems a first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same > thing that once took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter > one is a bug. > I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the > chatty behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM. > Thanks for any thoughts. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>
Re: First impressions of Mavericks
The update is very good, except for a few things. I haven’t looked in the whole VO utility but the annoying pitch changes for data detectors in Mail and search boxes are still present with the Nuance voices. On the other hand, I’m glad that Vocalizer Expressive is on this thing now, although I found out that you had to delete the old Nuance Vocalizer voices before you could use the Expressive voices. If there is a setting to turn off those pitch changes or to disable data detectors in Mail, I’d really like to hear it. The other thing is that they have that auto ducking or whatever it’s called but that interferes with Skype when I’m in a call. I don’t want to disable it altogether since that’s pretty cool. I also have a problem with Windows using VMWare Fusion but I’ll save that for the appropriate thread. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:06 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: safari, virtual windows and mavericks
Can you describe the problem with Safari in more detail? Is it on all pages? On every page element? On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:46 PM, May and Noah wrote: > Oh yes, I do have the latest fusion and thanks for the suggestions, it’s all > fixed now. > > Now to figure out the safari thing. > > May and Prince Noah > www.canadianlynx.ca > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> As I understand it, yes. As to the virtual Windows problem, I assume you're >> using fusion? If so, have you updated to the latest version, which has >> support for OS 10.9? >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> Would I be right in guessing that this audio ducking has to do with Voice >>> Over causing the primary audio to be ducked under like on the Iphone? >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>> >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Matt Dierckens >>> wrote: >>> Hi May. I can only answer the second question. The reason its lowering the volume is because there is a new setting in the sound category of VO utility called audio ducking. I would uncheck that box. Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com Assistive Technology Trainer IOS and Macintosh User support Windsor area On 2013-10-22, at 8:30 PM, May and Noah wrote: > Hi there everyone. I’m not sure if this is a safari issue or if it’s new > with mavericks, but any help would be appreciated if someone knows how to > fix it. > > First with Safari now whenever I’m moving around a page on the web it > says clickable, for example May clickable. It did not do this before and > I’m wondering how do you turn this off? It’s going to drive me nuts? > > Second regarding virtual windows. If I’m on the mac side of things it has > now greatly reduced the volume of speech on windows, but the volume is > fine when I switch to the windows window. Any idea on how to fix this as > well? This is another issue I did not have before upgrading to Mavericks. > > May and Prince Noah > www.canadianlynx.ca > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
Re: First impressions of Mavericks
As to the auto ducking, take a look in the commands available to a commander keystroke or gesture. It might be hiding in one of those menus, so you could just toggle it with a commander. I don't know since I don't yet have the update, but that is my first reaction. On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:58 PM, BBS wrote: > The update is very good, except for a few things. I haven’t looked in the > whole VO utility but the annoying pitch changes for data detectors in Mail > and search boxes are still present with the Nuance voices. On the other hand, > I’m glad that Vocalizer Expressive is on this thing now, although I found out > that you had to delete the old Nuance Vocalizer voices before you could use > the Expressive voices. If there is a setting to turn off those pitch changes > or to disable data detectors in Mail, I’d really like to hear it. The other > thing is that they have that auto ducking or whatever it’s called but that > interferes with Skype when I’m in a call. I don’t want to disable it > altogether since that’s pretty cool. I also have a problem with Windows using > VMWare Fusion but I’ll save that for the appropriate thread. > > Shawn > Sent From My White Mac Book > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:06 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: safari, virtual windows and mavericks
Staying with Windows in VMWare Fusion, I’ve noticed that after installing Mavericks, I can’t connect to the internet. It’s saying that it’s connected, but I get a message saying that Internet Explorer can’t display the page which is google, my homepage. How do I fix this? I’m using XP with Fusion 5. I don’t want to upgrade because a friend of mine says that Fusion 6 needs more ram to run Windows properly. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:06 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Accessible Bible Apps For The Macintosh That Are VoiceOver Compatible
Hello, everybody: Mike did podcasts several years ago back on BlindCoolTech (wich is now a site with loads of 404 links), so since I can longer get his podcasts on the Mac, I thought I would write out here to see if anybody could reply back to this message, and tel me something: What applications exist that are out their (paid) or fre, that allow the bible to be browsed etc with VoiceOver? If nothing exists that can be used with VoiceOver, please let me know. But if you folks know of any good Voiceover applications that would allow me to read bible verses etc, please let me know. The other question I have deals with apps that allow one to play sounds such as nature relaxing sounds and such. Any ideas on those types of things? Suppose the category might be meditation apps, perhaps, that are also accessible if any on the Mac? Thanks! -- Sincerely, Keith Home Phone: 928-554-3936 Mobile Phone: 928-713-6370 Primary email: keithint1...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: First impressions of Mavericks
hey, the one thing this update has done is make VO fantastic with safari. you can now click on text elements and even better if you hit the back button it seems to remember where i was when i clicked the link. anyone who has used screenreaders on windows will fined that using safari is abit like using IE in turms of little things that i talked about above. Michael On 23 Oct 2013, at 1:58 pm, BBS wrote: > The update is very good, except for a few things. I haven’t looked in the > whole VO utility but the annoying pitch changes for data detectors in Mail > and search boxes are still present with the Nuance voices. On the other hand, > I’m glad that Vocalizer Expressive is on this thing now, although I found out > that you had to delete the old Nuance Vocalizer voices before you could use > the Expressive voices. If there is a setting to turn off those pitch changes > or to disable data detectors in Mail, I’d really like to hear it. The other > thing is that they have that auto ducking or whatever it’s called but that > interferes with Skype when I’m in a call. I don’t want to disable it > altogether since that’s pretty cool. I also have a problem with Windows using > VMWare Fusion but I’ll save that for the appropriate thread. > > Shawn > Sent From My White Mac Book > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:06 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: First impressions of Mavericks
How do you delete the old vocalizer voices? Do you just uncheck them or what? I assume, of course, that you have to do this after the update? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:58 PM, BBS wrote: > The update is very good, except for a few things. I haven’t looked in the > whole VO utility but the annoying pitch changes for data detectors in Mail > and search boxes are still present with the Nuance voices. On the other hand, > I’m glad that Vocalizer Expressive is on this thing now, although I found out > that you had to delete the old Nuance Vocalizer voices before you could use > the Expressive voices. If there is a setting to turn off those pitch changes > or to disable data detectors in Mail, I’d really like to hear it. The other > thing is that they have that auto ducking or whatever it’s called but that > interferes with Skype when I’m in a call. I don’t want to disable it > altogether since that’s pretty cool. I also have a problem with Windows using > VMWare Fusion but I’ll save that for the appropriate thread. > > Shawn > Sent From My White Mac Book > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:06 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Regarding clean installs…
Hi A clean install is OSX with nothing. Only Maverick for example. All the settings have to be done again. Like VO settings. Then you probably can do a restore from backup of different apps. Not sure if it works on a clean install. Music, photos, documents should not be a problem to restore from a backup on a clean install. Take care 23. okt. 2013 kl. 03:09 skrev Alex Hall : > Hi all, > What is this about a clean install? I have a 320gb external drive doing > nothing and have never used Time Machine. Should I do a backup onto that > first, given that I also have Crashplan? Ho, exactly, does one do a clean > install without losing all installed apps (and more importantly, non-App > Store activations, app preferences, system settings, and so on)? Id did not > do a clean install going from 10.7 to 10.8, so should I worry about doing so > now? Any information would be great. Thank you. > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: safari, virtual windows and mavericks
No, in checking around more on other sites it looks like just this one place. www.godvillegames.com and it’s like that for the whole thing. Since it’s not on every site I go to that I can tell now I can live with it, but would still be nice if I can turn that off. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > Can you describe the problem with Safari in more detail? Is it on all pages? > On every page element? > On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:46 PM, May and Noah wrote: > >> Oh yes, I do have the latest fusion and thanks for the suggestions, it’s all >> fixed now. >> >> Now to figure out the safari thing. >> >> May and Prince Noah >> www.canadianlynx.ca >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> As I understand it, yes. As to the virtual Windows problem, I assume you're >>> using fusion? If so, have you updated to the latest version, which has >>> support for OS 10.9? >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> Would I be right in guessing that this audio ducking has to do with Voice Over causing the primary audio to be ducked under like on the Iphone? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote: > Hi May. > I can only answer the second question. > The reason its lowering the volume is because there is a new setting in > the sound category of VO utility called audio ducking. I would uncheck > that box. > > Matt Dierckens > matt.dierck...@gmail.com > Assistive Technology Trainer > IOS and Macintosh User support > Windsor area > > > On 2013-10-22, at 8:30 PM, May and Noah wrote: > >> Hi there everyone. I’m not sure if this is a safari issue or if it’s new >> with mavericks, but any help would be appreciated if someone knows how >> to fix it. >> >> First with Safari now whenever I’m moving around a page on the web it >> says clickable, for example May clickable. It did not do this before and >> I’m wondering how do you turn this off? It’s going to drive me nuts? >> >> Second regarding virtual windows. If I’m on the mac side of things it >> has now greatly reduced the volume of speech on windows, but the volume >> is fine when I switch to the windows window. Any idea on how to fix this >> as well? This is another issue I did not have before upgrading to >> Mavericks. >> >> May and Prince Noah >> www.canadianlynx.ca >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> mehg...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr..
Re: Mavericks available now
Mike, Normally, I follow the same practice. However, this time, I just went for it in the first hour. And, while it is early-days still, I’m not having any problems. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that this continues. CJ On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:00 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > That's why I prefer to wait until at least the first major update. > On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Michael Marshall > wrote: > >> thanks for that. >> i just don't want to update the OS to find it so buggy that i can't use it. >> On 23/10/2013, at 7:23 AM, Edward Green wrote: >> >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>> It's still downloading and I haven't found any early podcasts yet, so I'm >>> still waiting to see - I'll let you know what I find. >>> >>> Ed >>> On 22 Oct 2013, at 21:15, Michael Marshall >>> wrote: >>> hey, any changes or improvements to VO with the new OS? On 23/10/2013, at 6:07 AM, Edward Green wrote: > Subject line says it all. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: safari, virtual windows and mavericks
That's a relief. Someone in a different thread said that clicking text that the web author intended to be clickable now works, so it is likely that VO is just picking up more than it used to. On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:05 AM, May and Noah wrote: > No, in checking around more on other sites it looks like just this one place. > www.godvillegames.com and it’s like that for the whole thing. > > Since it’s not on every site I go to that I can tell now I can live with it, > but would still be nice if I can turn that off. > > May and Prince Noah > www.canadianlynx.ca > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> Can you describe the problem with Safari in more detail? Is it on all pages? >> On every page element? >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:46 PM, May and Noah wrote: >> >>> Oh yes, I do have the latest fusion and thanks for the suggestions, it’s >>> all fixed now. >>> >>> Now to figure out the safari thing. >>> >>> May and Prince Noah >>> www.canadianlynx.ca >>> >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> As I understand it, yes. As to the virtual Windows problem, I assume you're using fusion? If so, have you updated to the latest version, which has support for OS 10.9? On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Would I be right in guessing that this audio ducking has to do with Voice > Over causing the primary audio to be ducked under like on the Iphone? > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Matt Dierckens > wrote: > >> Hi May. >> I can only answer the second question. >> The reason its lowering the volume is because there is a new setting in >> the sound category of VO utility called audio ducking. I would uncheck >> that box. >> >> Matt Dierckens >> matt.dierck...@gmail.com >> Assistive Technology Trainer >> IOS and Macintosh User support >> Windsor area >> >> >> On 2013-10-22, at 8:30 PM, May and Noah wrote: >> >>> Hi there everyone. I’m not sure if this is a safari issue or if it’s >>> new with mavericks, but any help would be appreciated if someone knows >>> how to fix it. >>> >>> First with Safari now whenever I’m moving around a page on the web it >>> says clickable, for example May clickable. It did not do this before >>> and I’m wondering how do you turn this off? It’s going to drive me nuts? >>> >>> Second regarding virtual windows. If I’m on the mac side of things it >>> has now greatly reduced the volume of speech on windows, but the volume >>> is fine when I switch to the windows window. Any idea on how to fix >>> this as well? This is another issue I did not have before upgrading to >>> Mavericks. >>> >>> May and Prince Noah >>> www.canadianlynx.ca >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com.
Re: Poor mail Experience. Any way to Tweak?
Jonathan, I’m not experiencing the problem, a you described, with VO-J. I, still, press it & away we go…reading the email. So, it must be an individual thing? CJ On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks. > Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping I’ve > just missed a setting to make it stop. > In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the sender, > and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now it seems > the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just slows me > down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off. > Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, > after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the old > behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very beginning. > And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to read > by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it seems a > first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing that once > took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is a bug. > I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the chatty > behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM. > Thanks for any thoughts. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Accessible Bible Apps For The Macintosh That Are VoiceOver Compatible
Keith, There’s always Eloquent, formerly Mac Sword. But, be aware, I just tried to launch it under the new OSX, Mavericks, & it didn’t launch properly. But, they’ll probably have a new version, that is compatible, soon. CJ On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Keith Hinton wrote: > Hello, everybody: > Mike did podcasts several years ago back on BlindCoolTech (wich is now > a site with loads of 404 links), so since I can longer get his > podcasts on the Mac, I thought I would write out here to see if > anybody could reply back to this message, and tel me something: > What applications exist that are out their (paid) or fre, that allow > the bible to be browsed etc with VoiceOver? > If nothing exists that can be used with VoiceOver, please let me know. > But if you folks know of any good Voiceover applications that would > allow me to read bible verses etc, please let me know. > The other question I have deals with apps that allow one to play > sounds such as nature relaxing sounds and such. > Any ideas on those types of things? > Suppose the category might be meditation apps, perhaps, that are also > accessible if any on the Mac? > Thanks! > > -- > Sincerely, > > Keith > Home Phone: > 928-554-3936 > Mobile Phone: > 928-713-6370 > Primary email: > keithint1...@gmail.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: safari, virtual windows and mavericks
Ah, ok, that is most likely it then. Thanks everyone for your help. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:07 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > That's a relief. Someone in a different thread said that clicking text that > the web author intended to be clickable now works, so it is likely that VO is > just picking up more than it used to. > On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:05 AM, May and Noah wrote: > >> No, in checking around more on other sites it looks like just this one >> place. www.godvillegames.com and it’s like that for the whole thing. >> >> Since it’s not on every site I go to that I can tell now I can live with it, >> but would still be nice if I can turn that off. >> >> May and Prince Noah >> www.canadianlynx.ca >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:59 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> Can you describe the problem with Safari in more detail? Is it on all >>> pages? On every page element? >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 10:46 PM, May and Noah wrote: >>> Oh yes, I do have the latest fusion and thanks for the suggestions, it’s all fixed now. Now to figure out the safari thing. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > As I understand it, yes. As to the virtual Windows problem, I assume > you're using fusion? If so, have you updated to the latest version, which > has support for OS 10.9? > On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Would I be right in guessing that this audio ducking has to do with >> Voice Over causing the primary audio to be ducked under like on the >> Iphone? >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the >> blind built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Matt Dierckens >> wrote: >> >>> Hi May. >>> I can only answer the second question. >>> The reason its lowering the volume is because there is a new setting in >>> the sound category of VO utility called audio ducking. I would uncheck >>> that box. >>> >>> Matt Dierckens >>> matt.dierck...@gmail.com >>> Assistive Technology Trainer >>> IOS and Macintosh User support >>> Windsor area >>> >>> >>> On 2013-10-22, at 8:30 PM, May and Noah wrote: >>> Hi there everyone. I’m not sure if this is a safari issue or if it’s new with mavericks, but any help would be appreciated if someone knows how to fix it. First with Safari now whenever I’m moving around a page on the web it says clickable, for example May clickable. It did not do this before and I’m wondering how do you turn this off? It’s going to drive me nuts? Second regarding virtual windows. If I’m on the mac side of things it has now greatly reduced the volume of speech on windows, but the volume is fine when I switch to the windows window. Any idea on how to fix this as well? This is another issue I did not have before upgrading to Mavericks. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this
Re: Poor mail Experience. Any way to Tweak?
One thing to keep in mind is that you can press enter on a message to open it and, 99% of the time, VO will start reading it. The other advantage is that, if you get rid of the preview pane, you are not seeing messages marked as "read" just because you arrowed over them. I realize it is different and not as convenient, but I've been doing it this way for about a year and I find I much prefer it. I rely on the read status of messages to tell me what I still need to take care of in my inbox, so having previewed messages marked as read was not good at all. Again, I'm not downplaying the problem that you guys are experiencing, just offering an alternative if dealing with that gets to be too annoying. On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:12 AM, CJ Daniel wrote: > Jonathan, > > I’m not experiencing the problem, a you described, with VO-J. I, still, > press it & away we go…reading the email. So, it must be an individual thing? > > CJ > > > On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > >> Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks. >> Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping I’ve >> just missed a setting to make it stop. >> In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the >> sender, and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now >> it seems the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just >> slows me down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off. >> Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, >> after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the old >> behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very beginning. >> And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to >> read by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it >> seems a first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing >> that once took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is a >> bug. >> I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the >> chatty behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM. >> Thanks for any thoughts. >> Jonathan Mosen >> Mosen Consulting >> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >> http://Mosen.org >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
mavericks and voices
Last thing for tonight hopefully. Someone mentioned about new voices and I thought I remembered where to go to get the mac to install other voices. Could someone please direct me again. I’ll make suer to save it in case I forget again in the future. May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Maverix and Terminal?
Hi all, Someone reported on Twitter that they can't review the screen in Terminal under Maverix. Can someone try that and confirm or refute the claim? I'm doing my first-ever Time Machine backup and it's taking forever, so I can't install until tomorrow sometime at the earliest. thanks. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Poor mail Experience. Any way to Tweak?
I don’t like to hear read or unread status, because it just slows things down. Similarly, opening the message with Return speaks a whole bunch of window title information that slows me down too. This is why I prefer VO+J. It’s the quickest way to get right at the text, when it works. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 23/10/2013, at 5:25 pm, Alex Hall wrote: > One thing to keep in mind is that you can press enter on a message to open it > and, 99% of the time, VO will start reading it. The other advantage is that, > if you get rid of the preview pane, you are not seeing messages marked as > "read" just because you arrowed over them. I realize it is different and not > as convenient, but I've been doing it this way for about a year and I find I > much prefer it. I rely on the read status of messages to tell me what I still > need to take care of in my inbox, so having previewed messages marked as read > was not good at all. Again, I'm not downplaying the problem that you guys are > experiencing, just offering an alternative if dealing with that gets to be > too annoying. > On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:12 AM, CJ Daniel wrote: > >> Jonathan, >> >> I’m not experiencing the problem, a you described, with VO-J. I, still, >> press it & away we go…reading the email. So, it must be an individual thing? >> >> CJ >> >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks. >>> Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping >>> I’ve just missed a setting to make it stop. >>> In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the >>> sender, and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now >>> it seems the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just >>> slows me down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off. >>> Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, >>> after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the >>> old behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very >>> beginning. >>> And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to >>> read by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it >>> seems a first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing >>> that once took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is >>> a bug. >>> I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the >>> chatty behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM. >>> Thanks for any thoughts. >>> Jonathan Mosen >>> Mosen Consulting >>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>> http://Mosen.org >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Poor mail Experience. Any way to Tweak?
Fair enough, everyone uses apps in different ways. I just wanted to make people aware of the alternative. On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:11 AM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > I don’t like to hear read or unread status, because it just slows things > down. Similarly, opening the message with Return speaks a whole bunch of > window title information that slows me down too. This is why I prefer VO+J. > It’s the quickest way to get right at the text, when it works. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > On 23/10/2013, at 5:25 pm, Alex Hall wrote: > >> One thing to keep in mind is that you can press enter on a message to open >> it and, 99% of the time, VO will start reading it. The other advantage is >> that, if you get rid of the preview pane, you are not seeing messages marked >> as "read" just because you arrowed over them. I realize it is different and >> not as convenient, but I've been doing it this way for about a year and I >> find I much prefer it. I rely on the read status of messages to tell me what >> I still need to take care of in my inbox, so having previewed messages >> marked as read was not good at all. Again, I'm not downplaying the problem >> that you guys are experiencing, just offering an alternative if dealing with >> that gets to be too annoying. >> On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:12 AM, CJ Daniel wrote: >> >>> Jonathan, >>> >>> I’m not experiencing the problem, a you described, with VO-J. I, still, >>> press it & away we go…reading the email. So, it must be an individual >>> thing? >>> >>> CJ >>> >>> >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen wrote: >>> Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks. Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping I’ve just missed a setting to make it stop. In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the sender, and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now it seems the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just slows me down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off. Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the old behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very beginning. And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to read by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it seems a first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing that once took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is a bug. I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the chatty behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM. Thanks for any thoughts. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For mo
