I don’t like to hear read or unread status, because it just slows things down. Similarly, opening the message with Return speaks a whole bunch of window title information that slows me down too. This is why I prefer VO+J. It’s the quickest way to get right at the text, when it works. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org
On 23/10/2013, at 5:25 pm, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > One thing to keep in mind is that you can press enter on a message to open it > and, 99% of the time, VO will start reading it. The other advantage is that, > if you get rid of the preview pane, you are not seeing messages marked as > "read" just because you arrowed over them. I realize it is different and not > as convenient, but I've been doing it this way for about a year and I find I > much prefer it. I rely on the read status of messages to tell me what I still > need to take care of in my inbox, so having previewed messages marked as read > was not good at all. Again, I'm not downplaying the problem that you guys are > experiencing, just offering an alternative if dealing with that gets to be > too annoying. > On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:12 AM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Jonathan, >> >> I’m not experiencing the problem, a you described, with VO-J. I, still, >> press it & away we go…reading the email. So, it must be an individual thing? >> >> CJ >> >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks. >>> Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping >>> I’ve just missed a setting to make it stop. >>> In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the >>> sender, and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now >>> it seems the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just >>> slows me down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off. >>> Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, >>> after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the >>> old behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very >>> beginning. >>> And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to >>> read by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it >>> seems a first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing >>> that once took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is >>> a bug. >>> I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the >>> chatty behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM. >>> Thanks for any thoughts. >>> Jonathan Mosen >>> Mosen Consulting >>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>> http://Mosen.org >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.