Fair enough, everyone uses apps in different ways. I just wanted to make people aware of the alternative. On Oct 23, 2013, at 1:11 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
> I don’t like to hear read or unread status, because it just slows things > down. Similarly, opening the message with Return speaks a whole bunch of > window title information that slows me down too. This is why I prefer VO+J. > It’s the quickest way to get right at the text, when it works. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > > On 23/10/2013, at 5:25 pm, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> One thing to keep in mind is that you can press enter on a message to open >> it and, 99% of the time, VO will start reading it. The other advantage is >> that, if you get rid of the preview pane, you are not seeing messages marked >> as "read" just because you arrowed over them. I realize it is different and >> not as convenient, but I've been doing it this way for about a year and I >> find I much prefer it. I rely on the read status of messages to tell me what >> I still need to take care of in my inbox, so having previewed messages >> marked as read was not good at all. Again, I'm not downplaying the problem >> that you guys are experiencing, just offering an alternative if dealing with >> that gets to be too annoying. >> On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:12 AM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Jonathan, >>> >>> I’m not experiencing the problem, a you described, with VO-J. I, still, >>> press it & away we go…reading the email. So, it must be an individual >>> thing? >>> >>> CJ >>> >>> >>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks. >>>> Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping >>>> I’ve just missed a setting to make it stop. >>>> In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the >>>> sender, and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now >>>> it seems the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just >>>> slows me down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off. >>>> Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, >>>> after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the >>>> old behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very >>>> beginning. >>>> And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to >>>> read by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it >>>> seems a first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing >>>> that once took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is >>>> a bug. >>>> I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the >>>> chatty behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM. >>>> Thanks for any thoughts. >>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>> Mosen Consulting >>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>> http://Mosen.org >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. 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