i don’t know about that as yet but i don’t think so some how.
something new in VLC with VO i found interesting, if VO speeks when you are 
listening to something the music turns down when speech is on and turns back up 
when VO is done talking.
On 23 Oct 2013, at 11:20 am, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Okay, now please do me a favor and give me a reason to go dancing in the 
> streets... Tell me they did something about the whole "1 row added" thing 
> that has driven so many of us insane... Please, tell me they did *something* 
> about that.
> On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> hey,
>> have just put the new OS on and all reddy i see a difference. hard to put my 
>> finger on but in some parts VO just seems more descriptive. some of the 
>> voices have got updates to install as well so i look forward to having a 
>> look at that.
>> On 23 Oct 2013, at 10:41 am, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Honestly, I am beginning to think it might be high time to have a list 
>>> discussion on what defines accessible and usable.  One user says it's not 
>>> at all accessible while another says it's doable.  Perhaps we might want to 
>>> do a litlte something about clearing this up?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Barry Hadder <bhad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Actually the unlabeled buttons not with standing, iBooks is quite usable 
>>>> with Voiceover.  Make sure that you have list selected.  I’ve also have 
>>>> been able to download a sample chapter of an iBooks version of a book I 
>>>> have in PDF, and it is much better.  The app  certainly needs a little 
>>>> work, but you shouldn’t give up on it too soon.
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I just downloaded OS X Mavericks on my 2012 Macbook Air. As far as 
>>>> accessibility goes, I’m going to put a damper on something right away.
>>>> iBooks isn’t ready for primetime, unfortunately. It’s an extremely quirky 
>>>> interface, that has lots of accessibility issues that need to be fixed 
>>>> before it can be used as a book reader. So for now, I’d stick to iBooks on 
>>>> iOS, or Kindle, if you use that.
>>>> Over all, though, I like the OS, and will keep writing to let people know 
>>>> my findings.
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