One thing to keep in mind is that you can press enter on a message to open it 
and, 99% of the time, VO will start reading it. The other advantage is that, if 
you get rid of the preview pane, you are not seeing messages marked as "read" 
just because you arrowed over them. I realize it is different and not as 
convenient, but I've been doing it this way for about a year and I find I much 
prefer it. I rely on the read status of messages to tell me what I still need 
to take care of in my inbox, so having previewed messages marked as read was 
not good at all. Again, I'm not downplaying the problem that you guys are 
experiencing, just offering an alternative if dealing with that gets to be too 
annoying.
On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:12 AM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jonathan,
> 
> I’m not experiencing the problem, a you described, with VO-J.  I, still, 
> press it & away we go…reading the email.  So, it must be an individual thing?
> 
> CJ
> 
> 
> On Oct 22, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks.
>> Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping I’ve 
>> just missed a setting to make it stop.
>> In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the 
>> sender, and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now 
>> it seems the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just 
>> slows me down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off.
>> Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, 
>> after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the old 
>> behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very beginning.
>> And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to 
>> read by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it 
>> seems a first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing 
>> that once took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is a 
>> bug.
>> I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the 
>> chatty behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM.
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org
>> 
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