hey all,
i’m using mail and when i hit VO J to interact with a message first it will say 
“interact with enbedded” if i do it a second time i interact with text. to get 
back to the message table i have to VO J twice. still usible but strange.

Michael 
On 23 Oct 2013, at 12:39 pm, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:

> Thanks very much for that Alex.
> I have never used Classic View before today, but you’re right, enabling it 
> has allowed me to turn some of this stuff off. I do wish VO didn’t speak the 
> field before the contents of each field, but at least it’s a little better 
> than what I had.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
> On 23/10/2013, at 2:30 pm, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am not running OS 10.9 yet, but it sounds like you have disabled Classic 
>> View. I don't use that feature, but what you describe - the ability to 
>> decide exactly what get spoken with each message - is Classic View behavior. 
>> Open Mail Preferences, and see if you can find the Classic View setting 
>> checkbox. That might work, I am not sure.
>> On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone, so far I must say I’m disappointed with Mail in Mavericks.
>>> Mail in Mavericks has become way to chatty for my tastes and I’m hoping 
>>> I’ve just missed a setting to make it stop.
>>> In Mountain Lion, I had my message list set up so all I heard was the 
>>> sender, and the subject. If there was an attachment, I heard that too. Now 
>>> it seems the time that the message was sent and some other stuff that just 
>>> slows me down is included and I haven’t found a way to turn it off.
>>> Second, the number of messages in a conversation is now spoken at the end, 
>>> after the message header details and the message preview. I’d prefer the 
>>> old behaviour, where I heard how big the conversation was at the very 
>>> beginning.
>>> And finally, I used to get from my message list to the email i wanted to 
>>> read by pressing VO+J. The message would immediately start to read. Now it 
>>> seems a first press of VO+J does nothing at all, and to do the same thing 
>>> that once took 1 press of VO+J now takes three. I think this latter one is 
>>> a bug.
>>> I’ve really enjoyed using Mail in Mountain Lion but if I can’t get the 
>>> chatty behaviour under control, will run Outlook in a VM.
>>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org
>>> 
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>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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