date:20130619

No, you're right, Mary. There were some changes to the accessibility menu 
(which, as Alex said, used to be universal access), including a new short cut 
key. The various settings were also grouped differently. The VoiceOver Utility, 
however, stayed the same, and that's all that most blind people need. I think 
the most differences would have been felt in the accessibility menus for 
hearing and motor disabilities. I'm pretty sure David Woodbridge did do a 
podcast on this in his Mountain Lion set.

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Re: PDFs, Tables of Contents and iBooks

Nisus Writer Pro opens PDFs? Wow, you're blowing my mind! I'll definitely give 
this a go.

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Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar

Hi,

This has been a huge pain in the neck for me. I'd also really like to kick 
Apple for removing the right control key. Especially as there's a little space 
in between the left and up arrows where a mini control key might fit.

Anyway, here's how I've dealt with it.

Like Ricardo, I too use the keybaord commander. Right option D is to move to 
the doc, right option q is to move to the desktop, etcetera. There's a few 
commands for which I need to move my right hand over to the VO keys on the left 
so my left hand can hit the other keys. This can be pretty annoying, but so 
long as you assign the most common ones to the keyboard commander you'll be 
right.

I do have some troubles with the keyboard commander overiding other system 
keystrokes sometimes though. For example, an e acute (é) is made by pressing 
option-e followed by an e. But whenever I press option-e I launch Mail instead. 
But the problem is not insurmountable.

So, in short, I can get by with my MacBook Air but I still much prefer using 
the full Apple USB keyboard on my iMac. I say we start kicking some Apple 
executives until they bring back the right control key.

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Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar

2013-06-19 Thread Pamela J Francis

Hi Mary,
I dove in to the mac world with a laptop & never bought a full keyboard. There 
are times I have found the need to come to the left side of my keyboard with my 
right hand, however, It is tolerable. I would think you could set a hot key to 
do what your wanting to do minus your full keyboard.
On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> This is directed at laptop users who elect to stick with the built in 
> keyboard on your laptop, rather than connecting a full usb keyboard. I am 
> very use to my full keyboard with its num pad, which gives me access to num 
> pad commander and both sets of vo keys. I also have a magic track pad, but to 
> be honest, I don't use it much, as it is separate from the keyboard, and I've 
> just never found it all that efficient. 
> 
> That having been said, I'm strongly considering purchase of a Macbook Air, 
> and that has no num pad and no vo keys to the right of the space bar. There 
> are certain vo command combinations that I use a whole lot, like vo A and vo 
> D, just to name a couple, and there is no way I can do those with my left 
> hand alone. I'm guessing that having the track pad integral to the machine 
> will make it a lot more natural feeling. I'd still like to kick Apple for 
> getting rid of the control key on the right, but since that's not practical, 
> I'd be curious how you MacBook owners who also have desktops with a full 
> keyboard dealt with the transition. Do you miss the vo keys on the right and 
> the num pad?
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: PDFs, Tables of Contents and iBooks

2013-06-19 Thread Pamela J Francis

Hi Nick,
This is only a suggestion. Contact Mike Calvo at the Seroteck corporation. He 
published a short book on Ibooks. If you are not familiar with him, he is the 
CEO of Serotek, a company primarily employed by blind people in both software & 
some  hardware development. His book is titled Cloudy with the Chance of 
Profit, both on Kindle & Ibooks. He would be able to tell you from an 
accessibility standpoint how to put it together.
Regards
On Jun 17, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> Dear listers,
> 
> Does anyone know whether it's possible, and if so how, to do any of the 
> following?
> 
> 1. Create an active table of contents for a PDF that works with iBooks? That 
> is, the PDF already has a table of contents, but it doesn't seem to work with 
> iBooks. Anyway to fix this?
> 
> 2. Create an eBook, either in ePub or PDF format, from several PDF files. I 
> have a number of PDF books which are broken into several parts – e.g. a file 
> for each chapter etcetera. If possible, I want to make these into one eBook 
> file with a working table of contents.
> 
> I wish there was something as simple as AudiobookBuilder but for eBooks.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nic
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Re: Really Annoying IOS Phone Announcement

2013-06-19 Thread Pamela J Francis

Hi 
Try going in to notifications on your iPhone settings.
Check to see how your alert setting is set & adjust it to your preference. 
Also, At the bottom of that screen, there is a toggle to turn badge off in the 
lock screen. 
I hope this helps.
On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> I can't seem to find a setting to get this to stop, as if I let a call go to 
> Voicemail on the locked screen my phone and voiceover will keep announcing 
> missed call and voicemail over and over again until I unlock the phone. Does 
> anyone know if there is a way to turn this off as it is quite annoying. 
> Thanks, I couldn't seem to find a setting for it
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Test!

2013-06-19 Thread Red.Falcon

OK just to see!

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

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test 2

2013-06-19 Thread Red.Falcon

OK lets see if this works!

I'm far too bad for Heaven!
The Devil is afraid I'll take his place!

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Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar

2013-06-19 Thread Anne Robertson

I've been using an Apple laptop for 9 years now and I can tell you that there 
never was a Control key on the right. There wasn't even an Option key on the 
right until 4 or 5 years ago. Where the Option key is now used to be an Enter 
key, not to be confused with a Return key.

When I have to use a full keyboard, it drives me insane. I can never remember 
where to find the Home and End keys, and I'm just not used to using the 
right-hand VO keys.

I really don't want Apple to change the laptop keyboard, and you can always 
connect an extended keyboard if you have to.

Cheers,

Anne


On 19 Jun 2013, at 10:32, Pamela J Francis  wrote:

> Hi Mary,
> I dove in to the mac world with a laptop & never bought a full keyboard. 
> There are times I have found the need to come to the left side of my keyboard 
> with my right hand, however, It is tolerable. I would think you could set a 
> hot key to do what your wanting to do minus your full keyboard.
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> This is directed at laptop users who elect to stick with the built in 
>> keyboard on your laptop, rather than connecting a full usb keyboard. I am 
>> very use to my full keyboard with its num pad, which gives me access to num 
>> pad commander and both sets of vo keys. I also have a magic track pad, but 
>> to be honest, I don't use it much, as it is separate from the keyboard, and 
>> I've just never found it all that efficient. 
>> 
>> That having been said, I'm strongly considering purchase of a Macbook Air, 
>> and that has no num pad and no vo keys to the right of the space bar. There 
>> are certain vo command combinations that I use a whole lot, like vo A and vo 
>> D, just to name a couple, and there is no way I can do those with my left 
>> hand alone. I'm guessing that having the track pad integral to the machine 
>> will make it a lot more natural feeling. I'd still like to kick Apple for 
>> getting rid of the control key on the right, but since that's not practical, 
>> I'd be curious how you MacBook owners who also have desktops with a full 
>> keyboard dealt with the transition. Do you miss the vo keys on the right and 
>> the num pad?
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Windows 7 Install Guide

OK, but this does not demonstrate which keystrokes to hit or how many times to
tab etc. So, it's really hit or miss.

I think a better guide would be found at:

http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-os-x/installing-and-configuring-bootcamp-without-sighted-assistance

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704-256-0067

Option 3 from the main menu.

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From: Phil Halton
To: Macvisionaries
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:09 AM
Subject: Windows 7 Install Guide

Here's a link to the webpage I spoke of earlier that outlines the screens
that appear when installing Windows7. Before I installed windows7 in bootcamp,
I read through this guide and familiarized myself with the steps involved,
which made me feel a lot more confident about the whole OS install process.
If you're going to bootcamp win7, this might be a very good site to bookmark.
And of course, the Mac's bootcamp assistant utility has a printable PDF help
file for the bootcamp process. The windows install guide takes over once the
bootcamp assistant partitions your HD, then asks for your windows7 DVD, and
reboots.

http://www.blackviper.com/os-install-guides/windows-7-install-guide/

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Re: logic pro 9

Keith,

It is my understanding at least, though I could be incorrect on this, so I 
encourage you to research things further, and I could, and will, be happy to do 
the same for you on your behalf if that would make it easier, but I don't think 
Logic is all that terribly Voiceover friendly from what I gather.  With this in 
mind, I doubt that there are any tutorials out there in the form of a podcast.  
I know there is somewhat of a guide which can be found at

http://www.icanworkthisthing.com

but I'm not sure how in depth it is.

If you'd like to discuss this further, shoot me back an e-mail, or give us a 
call on our business line.

704-256-0067 and choose the option for tech support.

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  Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:20 AM
  Subject: logic pro 9


  Does any one know if or where there's a audio podcast that goes over Logic 
pro 9 using Voiceover?


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Re: logic pro 9

No problem.  As I said, I am big into audio, and do professional audio 
design / production work for a living, so I know all about Garageband, 
ProTools, Amadeus, etc.  so if you need any further help, reach out to 
either my business's tech support department, or fire me off an e-mail 
either on or off list, and I'll try to help you out where I best can.


Chris.

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From: "keith weatherly" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9


ok thank you.

-Original Message- 
From: Ricardo Walker

Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:29 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

Hi,

I’m pretty sure there is no logic 10 at this point.  9 is the current
version of logic.  From everything I’ve read, its not very accessible with
Voiceover either.

hth

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Walter Harper  wrote:

I don’t think there is a podcast for logic 9 logic 10 is the current 
version.



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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: logic pro 9

Does any one know if or where there’s a audio podcast that goes over Logic 
pro 9 using Voiceover?

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Re: iPad questions


1.  > Can we connect a Bluetooth keyboard to an iPad

Absolutely!  That will be found under settings, Bluetooth.

2.  Ddoes it come with Textedit or similar?

Not per sé.  You do have the Notes app, which will sort of work as a text 
editer, but your best bet would probably be to get a copy of Pages for IOS. 
It isn't free, but it is very reasonably priced.


3.  I would like to take any photos from her iPad and store them on my Mac 
that is backed up to Carbonite. We don't use iCloud so how would I transfer 
the pictures to my computer? We have a wireless network if this can be used.


OK, this can be done one of 2 ways.  Your best option probably will be to 
use Image Capture which can be found in the Utilities folder of your Mac, by 
pressing command+shift+U from the finder.  The other way would be to set up 
an IPhoto library, and then sync them to IPhoto.  This could be done over 
either USB or over wifi.



Thanks for any advice.


You're more than welcome, Max.  Glad that I could help.

Chris. 


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VLC Bookmarks

2013-06-19 Thread Steve Holmes

Has anyone successfully used bookmarks in VLC? I found a way to add bookmarks 
to selected parts of a long file but can't seem to find a way to jump to them. 
You can open the bookmark window with Command+b and I can add, delete or clear 
all bookmarks but there is no jump available. The documentation claims there 
are hot keys to create and jump to bookmarks but I can't get that part to work 
at all. It seems like to me that much of the documentation does not match what 
I see in my version here. I'm using version 2.0.6 which is the latest you can 
download from the videolan site.

Any ideas? I would love to be able to use bookmarks in these four hour long 
files.

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Re: VLC Bookmarks

2013-06-19 Thread Maria & Joe Chapman

HI.  if you figure this out please let me know the answer.  I didn't even know 
it was possible to create bookmarks.


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On 19/06/2013, at 11:18 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> Has anyone successfully used bookmarks in VLC? I found a way to add bookmarks 
> to selected parts of a long file but can't seem to find a way to jump to 
> them. You can open the bookmark window with Command+b and I can add, delete 
> or clear all bookmarks but there is no jump available. The documentation 
> claims there are hot keys to create and jump to bookmarks but I can't get 
> that part to work at all. It seems like to me that much of the documentation 
> does not match what I see in my version here. I'm using version 2.0.6 which 
> is the latest you can download from the videolan site.
> 
> Any ideas? I would love to be able to use bookmarks in these four hour long 
> files.
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Re: Windows 7 Install Guide

yeah, it's written from a sighted persons perspective.I found it useful because 
it gives you a guide to what will appear and in what sequence, then a sighted 
assistant (use them when available) can help with the details.

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  From: Chris Gilland 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:03 AM
  Subject: Re: Windows 7 Install Guide

  OK, but this does not demonstrate which keystrokes to hit or how many times 
to tab etc.  So, it's really hit or miss.

  I think a better guide would be found at:

http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-os-x/installing-and-configuring-bootcamp-without-sighted-assistance

  Best of luck to you.

  If you need any further help, give us a call Mon-Fri 8AM to 5PM Eastern time 
and our tech support department will be happy to assist you in any way.

  704-256-0067

  Option 3 from the main menu.

  Chris.

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From: Phil Halton 
To: Macvisionaries 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:09 AM
Subject: Windows 7 Install Guide

Here's a link to the webpage I spoke of earlier that outlines the screens 
that appear when installing Windows7. Before I installed windows7 in bootcamp, 
I read through this guide and familiarized myself with the steps involved, 
which made me feel a lot more confident about the whole OS install process.
If you're going to bootcamp win7, this might be a very good site to 
bookmark. And of course, the Mac's bootcamp assistant utility has a printable 
PDF help file for the bootcamp process. The windows install guide takes over 
once the bootcamp assistant partitions your HD, then asks for your windows7 
DVD, and reboots.

http://www.blackviper.com/os-install-guides/windows-7-install-guide/

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Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar

I think I remember someone saying that they used a key remap app to set 
right shift key to act as the right control key. Then, right option+right 
shift acted as right VO keys.

- Original Message - 
From: "Pamela J Francis" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar

Hi Mary,
I dove in to the mac world with a laptop & never bought a full keyboard. 
There are times I have found the need to come to the left side of my 
keyboard with my right hand, however, It is tolerable. I would think you 
could set a hot key to do what your wanting to do minus your full keyboard.

On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

This is directed at laptop users who elect to stick with the built in 
keyboard on your laptop, rather than connecting a full usb keyboard. I am 
very use to my full keyboard with its num pad, which gives me access to 
num pad commander and both sets of vo keys. I also have a magic track pad, 
but to be honest, I don't use it much, as it is separate from the 
keyboard, and I've just never found it all that efficient.

That having been said, I'm strongly considering purchase of a Macbook Air, 
and that has no num pad and no vo keys to the right of the space bar. 
There are certain vo command combinations that I use a whole lot, like vo 
A and vo D, just to name a couple, and there is no way I can do those with 
my left hand alone. I'm guessing that having the track pad integral to the 
machine will make it a lot more natural feeling. I'd still like to kick 
Apple for getting rid of the control key on the right, but since that's 
not practical, I'd be curious how you MacBook owners who also have 
desktops with a full keyboard dealt with the transition. Do you miss the 
vo keys on the right and the num pad?

Mary

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Questions About Numbers

2013-06-19 Thread Christopher Edwards


Hello,

I have just started using Numbers  on my Macbook Pro running Mountain Lion 
and, so far, have two questions.


1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple Store says 
you have to click on the row number or column letter. I cannot find a 
keyboard shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of navigating to these 
points with the touch pad or keyboard. I am sure there must be a solution so 
please can someone tell me what it is?


2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep getting 
"busy" messages and often have to force quit the program and on one occasion 
even this solution did not work. I seem to remember someone saying that 
increasing RAM makes a big difference. I have 4GB so would it be worth 
doubling this, or maybe adding even more RAM than that?


Many thanks,

Chris Edwards

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Re: VLC Bookmarks

2013-06-19 Thread Steve Holmes

One thing more concerning these, after you add a bookmark through the
bookmarks window (Press Command-B to open), you need to create a
playlist and save it. The bookmarks get saved in the "extended m3u"
file. I'm asking these questions on the list because I can't figure
anything more out. I was hoping someone else on the list might have
tried using bookmarks with VLC. I from time to time encounter large
sound files over 2 hours in length and bookmarking would be essential
in saving one's place and resumption of listening at a later time.

The documented hotkeys for saving and jumping to bookmarks doesn't
work at all here. But this method of saving in the bookmarks window
works for saving but no way to jump to that location in the media
file.

On 6/19/13, Maria & Joe Chapman  wrote:
> HI.  if you figure this out please let me know the answer.  I didn't even
> know it was possible to create bookmarks.
>
>
> Maria Chapman
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>
> "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." -
> Mahatma Gandhi
>
> On 19/06/2013, at 11:18 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>
>> Has anyone successfully used bookmarks in VLC? I found a way to add
>> bookmarks to selected parts of a long file but can't seem to find a way to
>> jump to them. You can open the bookmark window with Command+b and I can
>> add, delete or clear all bookmarks but there is no jump available. The
>> documentation claims there are hot keys to create and jump to bookmarks
>> but I can't get that part to work at all. It seems like to me that much of
>> the documentation does not match what I see in my version here. I'm using
>> version 2.0.6 which is the latest you can download from the videolan
>> site.
>>
>> Any ideas? I would love to be able to use bookmarks in these four hour
>> long files.
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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-19 Thread Harry Hogue

Hello Phil and Others,

I have a group of DVD-R's, and also CD-R;s.  I burned the Windows ISO file onto 
a DVD-R and then realized the DVD was in Mac Extended format.  However, it 
doesn't show up in the Disk Utility when it is just blank, so I can't seem to 
format it to FAT32 or whatever format I need.  I have Dropboxed the Windows ISO 
file to have a person using Windows put it on the DVD, but is there anything 
special I need to do in either case to make it a bootable DVD so I can install 
Windows?  The Windows drivers and support files it wanted me to install on a 
USB flash drive formatted as FAT32, which I have done, and they are on there 
with no problem.

I really appreciate any help.  It is very kind and really useful.  Once this is 
done, I understand that Windows will run at native speed without the delay of a 
virtual machine?  But also if I understand correctly, I will still need to 
reconfigure my capslock key to work as an insert key, or a similar key to do 
the same?

Thanks so much,

Hary

On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:28 AM, zoe  wrote:

> Hi Phill, all of you have been so helpful and I appreciate it so much, and I 
> think you guys have saved me some money as well.  When I'm ready I would 
> really appreciate that website so I don't make any mistakes.  I will save 
> this message and refer back to it when I'm ready and if you can send me that 
> link that will be great.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Phil Halton" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
> 
> 
> 1) no, they won't help you with bootcamp
> 2) Hold down the option key for around 10 seconds more or less after the
> boot sound
> 3) Yes, burn the windows7 iso so you can insert the disk when asked by
> bootcamp utility.
> 4) I have a website address that has the steps (screens) involved in
> installing windows7, and I'll shoot it over to you when you're ready to get
> into the details of installing windows. They're pretty much right on the
> money as far as what order what screens appear and what you need to enter on
> them. When I did my bootcamp install, I had a sighted friend sit here and
> read the screens and do some of the typing and mouse clicking to make the
> process go faster and easier.
> 
> After windows7 is installed and rebooted, then you install the bootcamp
> drivers that you burn previously from the bootcamp utility. Then you can
> install your screen reader and take over from there. I had three disks ready
> at hand, windows7 ISO, Bootcamp drivers, and Jaws setup.exe
> The whole process went smooth as warm milk through a puppy.
> 
> the only tricky part in the windows install was selecting the bootcamp
> partition, and telling windows to format the partition before installing, If
> you don't do that step, windows will be installed on an unformatted
> partition and obviously won't work.
> 
> Before I did any of this, I got the bootcamp installation instructions from
> the bootcamp utility and read it thoroughly, then I read thoroughly the
> website that I mentioned to understand what was essentially involved in the
> windows install part. I think the reading is important - you don't want to
> make any mistakes because you didn't know what you were doing.
> 
> BTW: I agree with you about the superb accessibility of MS Office and Jaws,
> That combo can't be beat for productivity work.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Harry Hogue" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
> 
> 
> Hello Guys,
> 
> As regards VMWare Fusion vs. Bookcamp, here are my thoughts:
> 
> I am running 4gb of ram with VMWare Fusion (Windows 7 and JAWS 13), and
> despite the fact that it works okay, not counting the problems I wrote about
> most recently on this list, I am going to switch to Bootcamp for the
> following reasons:
> 
> 1.  Productivity and stability.  I need Windows to run as if it were the
> only operating system, and I need to be ale to take full advantage of MS
> Word, Excel, and the accessibility of JAWS with these programs, as well as
> running Kurzweil 1000 v. 11 with a scanner.  My work will soon be requiring
> me to have the ability to do track changes, leave comments on files I edit,
> and all without the need t oworry about mistakes with formatting due to
> converting from pages back to Word.
> 
> All-in-all, I think it is all very individual.  It sounds like if I want to
> use Bootcamp that I should get a blank CD to burn my Windows ISO file for my
> copy of Windows that I still have availabe through the Microsoft Store.
> Then basically it sounds like I should get someone with a little more
> computer knowledge than I have to get things up and running for me.  I also
> like the idea of using Boocamp so I don't have to worry about JAWS
> authorization problems -- authorize it once and I should be good to go,
> regardless if I create different user accounts on the Windows partition.
> 
> The process gets con

Re: highlighting text for study purposes

2013-06-19 Thread Steve Holmes

I asked several times in the past on this list about bookmarks in
iText on this list and got no replies. I guess nobody bookmarks
anything or it can't be done in iText. I downloaded this app some time
back and really have not used it since. Bookle is a much better way to
read epub books on the mac presently. Sure can't wait till iBooks
comes out with Mavericks. that was the most exciting news I heard at
the WWDC keynote last week.

On 6/18/13, Traci  wrote:
> Hello, thank you for the ideas.
>
> Not sure on your second question.  How do I know if the book has DRM or not?
>  There is also a way to have bookmarks in iText but I'm still learning about
> it.  ;)
>
> Traci
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Nicholas Parsons
>  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've never found that highlighting text like this is an effective aid for
>> blind people. At least it isn't much good to me. What I tend to do is copy
>> and paste the relevant text into a separate document I'll call notes on
>> whatever subject or book it is I'm researching/reading. As well as the
>> quoted text, I'll make sure to right down the page number, if I can access
>> it, or any other information that will help me identify the spot again.
>> And I will include the citation of the book/article (author's name, title
>> etcetera). This way, when I want to review what I've studied I can look
>> through my notes and I'll have the correct references there so I don't
>> need to go back to the book unless there's some other information I need
>> to get, and then I've got the reference right there anyway. As well as
>> simply copying and pasting text, it can be good to write your own notes or
>> summary of the book/article (again including the appropriate citation), as
>> this also helps you to think about what it actually is you're reading.
>>
>> I hope this makes sense and is of some use.
>>
>> P.S. Can iText open DRM protected Kindle books? If it can, that's amazing!
>> Or is it just Kindle books which have had their DRM removed?
>>
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Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar

2013-06-19 Thread Traci

I use keyRemap, and now the right command key is a control key.  So I have VO 
keys on the right.

I also followed some instructions on AppleVis to set my caps lock key as 
voKeys, but funny enough, I don't use it much.  I have a feeling that tweak was 
for Jaws users.

TC,
Traci
On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:46 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote:

> I think I remember someone saying that they used a key remap app to set right 
> shift key to act as the right control key. Then, right option+right shift 
> acted as right VO keys.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Pamela J Francis" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:32 AM
> Subject: Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar
> 
> 
> Hi Mary,
> I dove in to the mac world with a laptop & never bought a full keyboard. 
> There are times I have found the need to come to the left side of my keyboard 
> with my right hand, however, It is tolerable. I would think you could set a 
> hot key to do what your wanting to do minus your full keyboard.
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> This is directed at laptop users who elect to stick with the built in 
>> keyboard on your laptop, rather than connecting a full usb keyboard. I am 
>> very use to my full keyboard with its num pad, which gives me access to num 
>> pad commander and both sets of vo keys. I also have a magic track pad, but 
>> to be honest, I don't use it much, as it is separate from the keyboard, and 
>> I've just never found it all that efficient.
>> 
>> That having been said, I'm strongly considering purchase of a Macbook Air, 
>> and that has no num pad and no vo keys to the right of the space bar. There 
>> are certain vo command combinations that I use a whole lot, like vo A and vo 
>> D, just to name a couple, and there is no way I can do those with my left 
>> hand alone. I'm guessing that having the track pad integral to the machine 
>> will make it a lot more natural feeling. I'd still like to kick Apple for 
>> getting rid of the control key on the right, but since that's not practical, 
>> I'd be curious how you MacBook owners who also have desktops with a full 
>> keyboard dealt with the transition. Do you miss the vo keys on the right and 
>> the num pad?
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Questions About Numbers

2013-06-19 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Chris,

You can select a column or row in Numbers by going to the first cell in that 
row or column and holding down the Shift key, use either the right arrow key 
for a row, or the down arrow key for a column.

As for your Busy problem, are you by any chance running Windows as a virtual 
machine? If so, you'll need more memory.

Cheers,

Anne




On 19 Jun 2013, at 17:09, Christopher Edwards  
wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have just started using Numbers  on my Macbook Pro running Mountain Lion 
> and, so far, have two questions.
> 
> 1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple Store says 
> you have to click on the row number or column letter. I cannot find a 
> keyboard shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of navigating to these 
> points with the touch pad or keyboard. I am sure there must be a solution so 
> please can someone tell me what it is?
> 
> 2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep getting 
> "busy" messages and often have to force quit the program and on one occasion 
> even this solution did not work. I seem to remember someone saying that 
> increasing RAM makes a big difference. I have 4GB so would it be worth 
> doubling this, or maybe adding even more RAM than that?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Chris Edwards
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Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar

2013-06-19 Thread Mary Otten

I'm sure Apple is not going to change the keyboard after all this time. I do 
recall that when I got snow leopard, one of the reasons was that they had 
introduced num pad commander, and it was also at that time that they stopped 
the full keyboard, i.e. dropped the num pad and the right control key as well 
as home and end keys, page up and down etc. Having used full keyboards in 
Windows for ages, including getting use to a full complement of controls and 
alts on both sides of the keyboard and a num pad, it was a no brainer to opt 
for the full keyboard when I got my Mac Mini. And I still have a Windows laptop 
with the full keyboard. Life will certainly go on.  

Mary Otten
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Re: Questions About Numbers

Hi there
I had good training at the Apple store, so you want to tell the person there 
that there is no clicking ever. Tell them to please look up the keyboard 
commands that Apple sent me. Secondly, I upgraded my memory to 8 GB, and 
numbers has worked better for me ever since. If you need these keyboard 
commands, which is called Macintosh keyboard commands, please let me know and I 
will send them to you as an email attachment. Apple sent them to me.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Christopher Edwards  
wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have just started using Numbers  on my Macbook Pro running Mountain Lion 
> and, so far, have two questions.
> 
> 1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple Store says 
> you have to click on the row number or column letter. I cannot find a 
> keyboard shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of navigating to these 
> points with the touch pad or keyboard. I am sure there must be a solution so 
> please can someone tell me what it is?
> 
> 2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep getting 
> "busy" messages and often have to force quit the program and on one occasion 
> even this solution did not work. I seem to remember someone saying that 
> increasing RAM makes a big difference. I have 4GB so would it be worth 
> doubling this, or maybe adding even more RAM than that?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Chris Edwards
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Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar

2013-06-19 Thread Esther

Hi Mary and Others,

As Phil and others have stated, you can use keyremap4macbook to get both an 
embedded Numpad working, and you can modify your keyboard to so that you 
have VO-keys on the right side of the keyboard.  Mary, since you're on the 
mac-access list, you can check their archives for my posting of a complete 
description on using keyremap4macbook  last August.  I also posted a link 
to that post on the AppleVis web site guides and podcasts that Eric Caron 
submitted.That post describes not only how keyremap4macbook works, but the 
fastest ways I found of navigating to set up a variety of different types 
of key remappings using VoiceOver. 

Back in January, Cheryl Homiak described a slightly different way of 
getting VO-keys on the right side of the keyboard than Traci uses. KR4MB 
(to abbreviate) lets you configure keys that only act when they are used in 
combination with other keys.  Cheryl set up her keyboard so that the right 
Command key acts as a Command key when pressed by itself, but acts as a 
Control key when pressed together with the right Shift key. So, she 
basically has VO-keys on the right side of the keyboard by pressing the two 
keys next to the space bar, along with the right Shift key, reached by 
stretching over with the pinky, I think, of her right hand.

Like Anne, I'm used to typing on a Mac laptop keyboard and executing all 
the VoiceOver keyboard shortcuts without assistance, but I do like the 
default action of KR4MB, even without the hack to get the caps lock key 
mapped to be the VO-keys.  First, you can automatically get access to an 
embedded numpad on the right side of the keyboard.  You get the full numpad 
extending below the "7 8 9" keys on the top row of number keys simply by 
pressing the "Fn" key together with the corresponding embedded numpad key. 
 Even better, if you turn on NumPad Commander, you can use these keys in 
combination with modifiers to get the complete range of your customized 
NumPad Commander definitions.  And if you don't want to have the embedded 
NumPad, you can simply check a box in the KR4MB preferences setup to 
disable this feature.  Then you could use an additional external NumPad. 
 But you could still use KR4MB to let you press the Command+Option+Shift 
keys on the right side of the keyboard to act as the Control+Option keys 
for VoiceOver.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther   

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:50:11 AM UTC-4, Traci wrote:
>
> I use keyRemap, and now the right command key is a control key.  So I have 
> VO keys on the right. 
>
> I also followed some instructions on AppleVis to set my caps lock key as 
> voKeys, but funny enough, I don't use it much.  I have a feeling that tweak 
> was for Jaws users. 
>
> TC, 
> Traci 
> On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:46 AM, "Phil Halton" > 
> wrote: 
>
> > I think I remember someone saying that they used a key remap app to set 
> right shift key to act as the right control key. Then, right option+right 
> shift acted as right VO keys. 
> > 
> > - Original Message - From: "Pamela J Francis" 
> > > 
>
> > To: > 
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:32 AM 
> > Subject: Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Mary, 
> > I dove in to the mac world with a laptop & never bought a full keyboard. 
> There are times I have found the need to come to the left side of my 
> keyboard with my right hand, however, It is tolerable. I would think you 
> could set a hot key to do what your wanting to do minus your full keyboard. 
> > On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Mary Otten > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> >> This is directed at laptop users who elect to stick with the built in 
> keyboard on your laptop, rather than connecting a full usb keyboard. I am 
> very use to my full keyboard with its num pad, which gives me access to num 
> pad commander and both sets of vo keys. I also have a magic track pad, but 
> to be honest, I don't use it much, as it is separate from the keyboard, and 
> I've just never found it all that efficient. 
> >> 
> >> That having been said, I'm strongly considering purchase of a Macbook 
> Air, and that has no num pad and no vo keys to the right of the space bar. 
> There are certain vo command combinations that I use a whole lot, like vo A 
> and vo D, just to name a couple, and there is no way I can do those with my 
> left hand alone. I'm guessing that having the track pad integral to the 
> machine will make it a lot more natural feeling. I'd still like to kick 
> Apple for getting rid of the control key on the right, but since that's not 
> practical, I'd be curious how you MacBook owners who also have desktops 
> with a full keyboard dealt with the transition. Do you miss the vo keys on 
> the right and the num pad? 
> >> 
> >> Mary 
> >> 
> >> Mary Otten 
> >> mott...@gmail.com  
> >> 
>
>

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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

As far as I can remember, Just burning the windows file  as an ISO image 
will make it bootable. That means you have to specify ISO as the type of 
disk to be burned in the burner software. I use "ExpressBurn" in windows to 
burn all my files and in that program is an option to burn an ISO image. 
Most burner programs have some such option.




- Original Message - 
From: "Harry Hogue" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Hello Phil and Others,

I have a group of DVD-R's, and also CD-R;s.  I burned the Windows ISO file 
onto a DVD-R and then realized the DVD was in Mac Extended format.  However, 
it doesn't show up in the Disk Utility when it is just blank, so I can't 
seem to format it to FAT32 or whatever format I need.  I have Dropboxed the 
Windows ISO file to have a person using Windows put it on the DVD, but is 
there anything special I need to do in either case to make it a bootable DVD 
so I can install Windows?  The Windows drivers and support files it wanted 
me to install on a USB flash drive formatted as FAT32, which I have done, 
and they are on there with no problem.


I really appreciate any help.  It is very kind and really useful.  Once this 
is done, I understand that Windows will run at native speed without the 
delay of a virtual machine?  But also if I understand correctly, I will 
still need to reconfigure my capslock key to work as an insert key, or a 
similar key to do the same?


Thanks so much,

Hary

On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:28 AM, zoe  wrote:

Hi Phill, all of you have been so helpful and I appreciate it so much, and 
I

think you guys have saved me some money as well.  When I'm ready I would
really appreciate that website so I don't make any mistakes.  I will save
this message and refer back to it when I'm ready and if you can send me 
that

link that will be great.

- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Halton" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


1) no, they won't help you with bootcamp
2) Hold down the option key for around 10 seconds more or less after the
boot sound
3) Yes, burn the windows7 iso so you can insert the disk when asked by
bootcamp utility.
4) I have a website address that has the steps (screens) involved in
installing windows7, and I'll shoot it over to you when you're ready to 
get

into the details of installing windows. They're pretty much right on the
money as far as what order what screens appear and what you need to enter 
on

them. When I did my bootcamp install, I had a sighted friend sit here and
read the screens and do some of the typing and mouse clicking to make the
process go faster and easier.

After windows7 is installed and rebooted, then you install the bootcamp
drivers that you burn previously from the bootcamp utility. Then you can
install your screen reader and take over from there. I had three disks 
ready

at hand, windows7 ISO, Bootcamp drivers, and Jaws setup.exe
The whole process went smooth as warm milk through a puppy.

the only tricky part in the windows install was selecting the bootcamp
partition, and telling windows to format the partition before installing, 
If

you don't do that step, windows will be installed on an unformatted
partition and obviously won't work.

Before I did any of this, I got the bootcamp installation instructions 
from

the bootcamp utility and read it thoroughly, then I read thoroughly the
website that I mentioned to understand what was essentially involved in 
the

windows install part. I think the reading is important - you don't want to
make any mistakes because you didn't know what you were doing.

BTW: I agree with you about the superb accessibility of MS Office and 
Jaws,

That combo can't be beat for productivity work.

- Original Message - 
From: "Harry Hogue" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Hello Guys,

As regards VMWare Fusion vs. Bookcamp, here are my thoughts:

I am running 4gb of ram with VMWare Fusion (Windows 7 and JAWS 13), and
despite the fact that it works okay, not counting the problems I wrote 
about

most recently on this list, I am going to switch to Bootcamp for the
following reasons:

1.  Productivity and stability.  I need Windows to run as if it were the
only operating system, and I need to be ale to take full advantage of MS
Word, Excel, and the accessibility of JAWS with these programs, as well as
running Kurzweil 1000 v. 11 with a scanner.  My work will soon be 
requiring
me to have the ability to do track changes, leave comments on files I 
edit,

and all without the need t oworry about mistakes with formatting due to
converting from pages back to Word.

All-in-all, I think it is all very individual.  It sounds like if I want 
to
use Bootcamp that I should get a blank CD to burn my Windows ISO file for 
my

copy of Windows that I still have availabe through the Microsoft Store.
Then basically it sounds

Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

It will run at nearly native speed. It still must go through some emulation. 
That is, BIOS (Basic Input Output system) which is what supports PC's at the 
machine level has to be simulated - windows can't run on the underlying 
software that runs MAC (I can't remember what its called). As I understand 
it, Bootcamp makes that simulation possible. But, there's no appreciable or 
noticeable lag at all.


- Original Message - 
From: "Harry Hogue" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Hello Phil and Others,

I have a group of DVD-R's, and also CD-R;s.  I burned the Windows ISO file 
onto a DVD-R and then realized the DVD was in Mac Extended format.  However, 
it doesn't show up in the Disk Utility when it is just blank, so I can't 
seem to format it to FAT32 or whatever format I need.  I have Dropboxed the 
Windows ISO file to have a person using Windows put it on the DVD, but is 
there anything special I need to do in either case to make it a bootable DVD 
so I can install Windows?  The Windows drivers and support files it wanted 
me to install on a USB flash drive formatted as FAT32, which I have done, 
and they are on there with no problem.


I really appreciate any help.  It is very kind and really useful.  Once this 
is done, I understand that Windows will run at native speed without the 
delay of a virtual machine?  But also if I understand correctly, I will 
still need to reconfigure my capslock key to work as an insert key, or a 
similar key to do the same?


Thanks so much,

Hary

On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:28 AM, zoe  wrote:

Hi Phill, all of you have been so helpful and I appreciate it so much, and 
I

think you guys have saved me some money as well.  When I'm ready I would
really appreciate that website so I don't make any mistakes.  I will save
this message and refer back to it when I'm ready and if you can send me 
that

link that will be great.

- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Halton" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


1) no, they won't help you with bootcamp
2) Hold down the option key for around 10 seconds more or less after the
boot sound
3) Yes, burn the windows7 iso so you can insert the disk when asked by
bootcamp utility.
4) I have a website address that has the steps (screens) involved in
installing windows7, and I'll shoot it over to you when you're ready to 
get

into the details of installing windows. They're pretty much right on the
money as far as what order what screens appear and what you need to enter 
on

them. When I did my bootcamp install, I had a sighted friend sit here and
read the screens and do some of the typing and mouse clicking to make the
process go faster and easier.

After windows7 is installed and rebooted, then you install the bootcamp
drivers that you burn previously from the bootcamp utility. Then you can
install your screen reader and take over from there. I had three disks 
ready

at hand, windows7 ISO, Bootcamp drivers, and Jaws setup.exe
The whole process went smooth as warm milk through a puppy.

the only tricky part in the windows install was selecting the bootcamp
partition, and telling windows to format the partition before installing, 
If

you don't do that step, windows will be installed on an unformatted
partition and obviously won't work.

Before I did any of this, I got the bootcamp installation instructions 
from

the bootcamp utility and read it thoroughly, then I read thoroughly the
website that I mentioned to understand what was essentially involved in 
the

windows install part. I think the reading is important - you don't want to
make any mistakes because you didn't know what you were doing.

BTW: I agree with you about the superb accessibility of MS Office and 
Jaws,

That combo can't be beat for productivity work.

- Original Message - 
From: "Harry Hogue" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Hello Guys,

As regards VMWare Fusion vs. Bookcamp, here are my thoughts:

I am running 4gb of ram with VMWare Fusion (Windows 7 and JAWS 13), and
despite the fact that it works okay, not counting the problems I wrote 
about

most recently on this list, I am going to switch to Bootcamp for the
following reasons:

1.  Productivity and stability.  I need Windows to run as if it were the
only operating system, and I need to be ale to take full advantage of MS
Word, Excel, and the accessibility of JAWS with these programs, as well as
running Kurzweil 1000 v. 11 with a scanner.  My work will soon be 
requiring
me to have the ability to do track changes, leave comments on files I 
edit,

and all without the need t oworry about mistakes with formatting due to
converting from pages back to Word.

All-in-all, I think it is all very individual.  It sounds like if I want 
to
use Bootcamp that I should get a blank CD to burn my Windows ISO file for 
my

copy of Windows that I still have ava

HarperCollins Publishers 99 cent sale on the Amazon Kindle

2013-06-19 Thread Esther

Just thought I'd post that Harper Collins has a number of Kindle books on 
sale for 99 cents. I know that some of you like cookbooks, which don't come 
up on BookShare.  Here are a few listings:

Pizza, Focaccia, Flat and Filled Breads For Your Bread Machine: Perfect 
Every Time by 
Lora Brody
Chef Paul Prudhomme's Seasoned 
Americaby Paul 
Prudhomme
Chef Paul Prudhomme's Louisiana Tastes: Exciting Flavors from the State 
that Cooks by 
Paul Prudhomme
Fiery Foods That I 
Loveby Paul 
Prudhomme
Celebrate with Chocolate: Totally Over-the-Top 
Recipes
The Shun Lee 
Cookbook by 
Michael Tong

Here's a link to some more sale items (but you'll have to wade through):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?node=154606011&p_8=50-&p_36=99-99&field-publisher=HarperCollins

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

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battery packs

2013-06-19 Thread jean parker

All:
I need to purchase a battery pack for my i phone.  Which one's do people on 
this use?
Jean

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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

2013-06-19 Thread Harry Hogue

Thanks, Phil.  This is good to know.

I just want something that will be stable that I can boot into and work in a 
Windows environment eight hours a day if I need to and it be as if I were on a 
PC, and it sounds like this is what I am looking for.

Thanks, again,

Harry

On Jun 19, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> It will run at nearly native speed. It still must go through some emulation. 
> That is, BIOS (Basic Input Output system) which is what supports PC's at the 
> machine level has to be simulated - windows can't run on the underlying 
> software that runs MAC (I can't remember what its called). As I understand 
> it, Bootcamp makes that simulation possible. But, there's no appreciable or 
> noticeable lag at all.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Harry Hogue" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:22 AM
> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
> 
> 
> Hello Phil and Others,
> 
> I have a group of DVD-R's, and also CD-R;s.  I burned the Windows ISO file 
> onto a DVD-R and then realized the DVD was in Mac Extended format.  However, 
> it doesn't show up in the Disk Utility when it is just blank, so I can't seem 
> to format it to FAT32 or whatever format I need.  I have Dropboxed the 
> Windows ISO file to have a person using Windows put it on the DVD, but is 
> there anything special I need to do in either case to make it a bootable DVD 
> so I can install Windows?  The Windows drivers and support files it wanted me 
> to install on a USB flash drive formatted as FAT32, which I have done, and 
> they are on there with no problem.
> 
> I really appreciate any help.  It is very kind and really useful.  Once this 
> is done, I understand that Windows will run at native speed without the delay 
> of a virtual machine?  But also if I understand correctly, I will still need 
> to reconfigure my capslock key to work as an insert key, or a similar key to 
> do the same?
> 
> Thanks so much,
> 
> Hary
> 
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:28 AM, zoe  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Phill, all of you have been so helpful and I appreciate it so much, and I
>> think you guys have saved me some money as well.  When I'm ready I would
>> really appreciate that website so I don't make any mistakes.  I will save
>> this message and refer back to it when I'm ready and if you can send me that
>> link that will be great.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
>> 
>> 
>> 1) no, they won't help you with bootcamp
>> 2) Hold down the option key for around 10 seconds more or less after the
>> boot sound
>> 3) Yes, burn the windows7 iso so you can insert the disk when asked by
>> bootcamp utility.
>> 4) I have a website address that has the steps (screens) involved in
>> installing windows7, and I'll shoot it over to you when you're ready to get
>> into the details of installing windows. They're pretty much right on the
>> money as far as what order what screens appear and what you need to enter on
>> them. When I did my bootcamp install, I had a sighted friend sit here and
>> read the screens and do some of the typing and mouse clicking to make the
>> process go faster and easier.
>> 
>> After windows7 is installed and rebooted, then you install the bootcamp
>> drivers that you burn previously from the bootcamp utility. Then you can
>> install your screen reader and take over from there. I had three disks ready
>> at hand, windows7 ISO, Bootcamp drivers, and Jaws setup.exe
>> The whole process went smooth as warm milk through a puppy.
>> 
>> the only tricky part in the windows install was selecting the bootcamp
>> partition, and telling windows to format the partition before installing, If
>> you don't do that step, windows will be installed on an unformatted
>> partition and obviously won't work.
>> 
>> Before I did any of this, I got the bootcamp installation instructions from
>> the bootcamp utility and read it thoroughly, then I read thoroughly the
>> website that I mentioned to understand what was essentially involved in the
>> windows install part. I think the reading is important - you don't want to
>> make any mistakes because you didn't know what you were doing.
>> 
>> BTW: I agree with you about the superb accessibility of MS Office and Jaws,
>> That combo can't be beat for productivity work.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Harry Hogue" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Guys,
>> 
>> As regards VMWare Fusion vs. Bookcamp, here are my thoughts:
>> 
>> I am running 4gb of ram with VMWare Fusion (Windows 7 and JAWS 13), and
>> despite the fact that it works okay, not counting the problems I wrote about
>> most recently on this list, I am going to switch to Bootcamp for the
>> following reasons:
>> 
>> 1.  Productivity and stability.  I need Windows to run as if it were the
>> only operating system, and I need to be ale to ta

Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

I can verify that at least version 7 of Parallels (they are now up to 8) 
is not usable with voiceover. I can reach the drop-down menus and other 
standard UI but all the controls for Parallels itself just comes up as 
'unknown' and I can't do anything with it. Maybe they fixed it in 
Parallels 8.


CB

On 6/16/13 10:51 AM, Nicholas Parsons wrote:

Yes, you can install JAWS or any other screen reader on the Windows part of 
your Mac. It doesn't matter whether it's running as a duel installation (i.e. 
bootcamp) or as a virtual machine (e.g. VM Fusion).

I am curious if any of these people who keep saying parallels is inaccessible 
have actually tried using it lately, or whether they are just passing along old 
hearsay that might now be obselete. I think Alex at least mentioned that he 
hadn't used it lately and things might have changed. I was told fairly recently 
that Parallels was accessible with JAWS, but that there was some problem with 
the JAWS key which is typically the insert key by default. I've never tried 
installing Windows on my Mac in any form though so I don't know. I'm just 
worried though that this might be one of those accessibility rumours that gets 
propogated longer than it should because of course no one tests the thing 
anymore because they are told it's not accessible.



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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

As others have mentioned, for bootcamp you have to partition your drive 
into two pieces, a Mac chunk and a Windows chunk, which means both sides 
will have less space and you have to plan ahead since you can't easily 
change this down the road. That means you might have to allocate a bunch 
of space to Windows 'just in case' which gets taken away from the mac 
side. Fusion is just an app except the documents it creates are virtual 
machines. You can give a Fusion virtual machine a large partition but 
the 'document' will only use as much as needed. Just like you can make a 
Pages doc that is 100 blank pages and it will be pretty tiny because 
there is nothing in it. So this is a big advantage. You don't have to 
know ahead of time how much space to give to Fusion. Just give it 40GB 
or so and then it will only use the 9-10GB it actually needs and will 
grow that space as needed. You launch Fusion when you need to do some 
Windows stuff and quit it when you're done. Other than the disk space it 
uses up for the virtual machine document it has no impact on the 
performance of your Mac once you quit it. While it's running it will 
suck up whatever CPU and memory you've allocated to the virtual windows 
machine but then you quit and that all comes back to the Mac side.


I haven't used boot camp but disk utility is fully accessible so you 
should be able to do the disk partitioning yourself if you want to go 
that way. I'm sure others here can give the blow by blow instructions.


CB

On 6/16/13 6:21 PM, zoe wrote:

Oh ok got it now.  One more question that I thought of and please accept my
appologies for asking what may seem stupid questions and for asking them
scattered, my mind is all over the place and I seem to be asking questions
as they come.  Am I to understand that with bootcamp the drive would be
partitioned but with fusion it would not?  Apple said for the partitioning
of the drive they would charge me two hundred and fifty dollars, if I half
to pay it oh well, then I will, but have I gotten confused somewhere down
the line?  I'm sure the drive is partitioned for bootcamp but fusion?
Thanks again and again I'm so sorry for my confusion.

- Original Message -
From: "Alex Hall" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine. Jaws
can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When a
computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why no
screen reader can possibly be loaded.
On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe  wrote:


h refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple add
it
on for me?  Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws, and
jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick?

- Original Message -
From: "Alex Hall" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Voiceover cannot speak on the boot screen since it is not loaded yet.
Apple
would have to add some form of speech into BIOS, which would be difficult
to
impossible. You can do what I did, though: install the Refit Boot Manager,
letting you press m for mac or w for windows when you boot the machine.
On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, zoe  wrote:


Oh thanks so much, good to know I won't have problems with jaws.  As I
said
the man at the apple store actually suggested parallel but if fusion does
the trick and most people seem to like it I guess maybe that's the way to
go
especially if I'm going to be asking for advice on the use of the
program.
The man at the store thought parallel was a better choice but didn't
state
the reasons why. Don't mean to be repetative but can apple configure
voiceover for me when shipping the imac to me to start up automatically?
Also if using fusion will voiceover speak on the log screen to help me
navigate weather I want to boot mac or windows?

- Original Message -
From: "Nicholas Parsons" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Yes, you can install JAWS or any other screen reader on the Windows part
of
your Mac. It doesn't matter whether it's running as a duel installation
(i.e. bootcamp) or as a virtual machine (e.g. VM Fusion).

I am curious if any of these people who keep saying parallels is
inaccessible have actually tried using it lately, or whether they are
just
passing along old hearsay that might now be obselete. I think Alex at
least
mentioned that he hadn't used it lately and things might have changed. I
was
told fairly recently that Parallels was accessible with JAWS, but that
there
was some problem with the JAWS key which is typically the insert key by
default. I've never tried installing Windows on my Mac in any form though
so
I don't know. I'm just worried though that this might be one of those
accessibility rumours that gets propogated longer than it should because
of
course no one tests the thing

Re: logic pro 9

2013-06-19 Thread keith weatherly

That I will do, I've been listening to your pro tools podcasts and really 
liking them.

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Gilland

Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

No problem.  As I said, I am big into audio, and do professional audio
design / production work for a living, so I know all about Garageband,
ProTools, Amadeus, etc.  so if you need any further help, reach out to
either my business's tech support department, or fire me off an e-mail
either on or off list, and I'll try to help you out where I best can.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "keith weatherly" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

ok thank you.

-Original Message- 
From: Ricardo Walker

Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:29 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

Hi,

I’m pretty sure there is no logic 10 at this point.  9 is the current
version of logic.  From everything I’ve read, its not very accessible with
Voiceover either.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Walter Harper  wrote:

I don’t think there is a podcast for logic 9 logic 10 is the current 
version.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of keith weatherly

Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: logic pro 9

Does any one know if or where there’s a audio podcast that goes over Logic 
pro 9 using Voiceover?

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Re: logic pro 9

2013-06-19 Thread keith weatherly

I don’t have pro tools yet, but I do have Amadeus. Do you have any podcasts 
on that program?

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Gilland

Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

No problem.  As I said, I am big into audio, and do professional audio
design / production work for a living, so I know all about Garageband,
ProTools, Amadeus, etc.  so if you need any further help, reach out to
either my business's tech support department, or fire me off an e-mail
either on or off list, and I'll try to help you out where I best can.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "keith weatherly" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

ok thank you.

-Original Message- 
From: Ricardo Walker

Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:29 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

Hi,

I’m pretty sure there is no logic 10 at this point.  9 is the current
version of logic.  From everything I’ve read, its not very accessible with
Voiceover either.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Walter Harper  wrote:

I don’t think there is a podcast for logic 9 logic 10 is the current 
version.

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Subject: logic pro 9

Does any one know if or where there’s a audio podcast that goes over Logic 
pro 9 using Voiceover?

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Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

the only thing that'll mess you up sometimes when working in bootcamp is 
failing to remember that the command key (windows key) and the option key 
(Alt key) are in reverse order from what you're used to using on a regular 
windows pc keyboard. Still, a small matter for having access to Windows on 
the MAC.



- Original Message - 
From: "Harry Hogue" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Thanks, Phil.  This is good to know.

I just want something that will be stable that I can boot into and work in a 
Windows environment eight hours a day if I need to and it be as if I were on 
a PC, and it sounds like this is what I am looking for.


Thanks, again,

Harry

On Jun 19, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

It will run at nearly native speed. It still must go through some 
emulation. That is, BIOS (Basic Input Output system) which is what 
supports PC's at the machine level has to be simulated - windows can't run 
on the underlying software that runs MAC (I can't remember what its 
called). As I understand it, Bootcamp makes that simulation possible. But, 
there's no appreciable or noticeable lag at all.


- Original Message - From: "Harry Hogue" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Hello Phil and Others,

I have a group of DVD-R's, and also CD-R;s.  I burned the Windows ISO file 
onto a DVD-R and then realized the DVD was in Mac Extended format. 
However, it doesn't show up in the Disk Utility when it is just blank, so 
I can't seem to format it to FAT32 or whatever format I need.  I have 
Dropboxed the Windows ISO file to have a person using Windows put it on 
the DVD, but is there anything special I need to do in either case to make 
it a bootable DVD so I can install Windows?  The Windows drivers and 
support files it wanted me to install on a USB flash drive formatted as 
FAT32, which I have done, and they are on there with no problem.


I really appreciate any help.  It is very kind and really useful.  Once 
this is done, I understand that Windows will run at native speed without 
the delay of a virtual machine?  But also if I understand correctly, I 
will still need to reconfigure my capslock key to work as an insert key, 
or a similar key to do the same?


Thanks so much,

Hary

On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:28 AM, zoe  wrote:

Hi Phill, all of you have been so helpful and I appreciate it so much, 
and I

think you guys have saved me some money as well.  When I'm ready I would
really appreciate that website so I don't make any mistakes.  I will save
this message and refer back to it when I'm ready and if you can send me 
that

link that will be great.

- Original Message - From: "Phil Halton" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


1) no, they won't help you with bootcamp
2) Hold down the option key for around 10 seconds more or less after the
boot sound
3) Yes, burn the windows7 iso so you can insert the disk when asked by
bootcamp utility.
4) I have a website address that has the steps (screens) involved in
installing windows7, and I'll shoot it over to you when you're ready to 
get

into the details of installing windows. They're pretty much right on the
money as far as what order what screens appear and what you need to enter 
on

them. When I did my bootcamp install, I had a sighted friend sit here and
read the screens and do some of the typing and mouse clicking to make the
process go faster and easier.

After windows7 is installed and rebooted, then you install the bootcamp
drivers that you burn previously from the bootcamp utility. Then you can
install your screen reader and take over from there. I had three disks 
ready

at hand, windows7 ISO, Bootcamp drivers, and Jaws setup.exe
The whole process went smooth as warm milk through a puppy.

the only tricky part in the windows install was selecting the bootcamp
partition, and telling windows to format the partition before installing, 
If

you don't do that step, windows will be installed on an unformatted
partition and obviously won't work.

Before I did any of this, I got the bootcamp installation instructions 
from

the bootcamp utility and read it thoroughly, then I read thoroughly the
website that I mentioned to understand what was essentially involved in 
the
windows install part. I think the reading is important - you don't want 
to

make any mistakes because you didn't know what you were doing.

BTW: I agree with you about the superb accessibility of MS Office and 
Jaws,

That combo can't be beat for productivity work.

- Original Message - From: "Harry Hogue" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Hello Guys,

As regards VMWare Fusion vs. Bookcamp, here are my thoughts:

I am running 4gb of ram with VMWare Fusion (Windows 7 and JAWS 13), and
despite the fact that it works okay, not counting the problems I wrote 
a

Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

Actually, you need to let the MAC's Bootcamp assistant Utility do the 
partitioning for you I think. Better safe than sorry at any rate. For space, 
I have a 500GB HD on my 2011 iMac. I just split it down the middle 256GB for 
MAC and Windows each. I've never even come close to using anything like that 
on any machine I've ever owned, so a MAC with 256GB and a windowsPC with 
256GB is no limitation. If needed though, I have a 2 TB firewire800 external 
drive that I also split up into various sized partitions (drives) and that 
covers any space needs. For instance, I have my 33 GB Dropbox account on the 
external, as well as all my SuperDuper backup images.



- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Blouch" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


As others have mentioned, for bootcamp you have to partition your drive
into two pieces, a Mac chunk and a Windows chunk, which means both sides
will have less space and you have to plan ahead since you can't easily
change this down the road. That means you might have to allocate a bunch
of space to Windows 'just in case' which gets taken away from the mac
side. Fusion is just an app except the documents it creates are virtual
machines. You can give a Fusion virtual machine a large partition but
the 'document' will only use as much as needed. Just like you can make a
Pages doc that is 100 blank pages and it will be pretty tiny because
there is nothing in it. So this is a big advantage. You don't have to
know ahead of time how much space to give to Fusion. Just give it 40GB
or so and then it will only use the 9-10GB it actually needs and will
grow that space as needed. You launch Fusion when you need to do some
Windows stuff and quit it when you're done. Other than the disk space it
uses up for the virtual machine document it has no impact on the
performance of your Mac once you quit it. While it's running it will
suck up whatever CPU and memory you've allocated to the virtual windows
machine but then you quit and that all comes back to the Mac side.

I haven't used boot camp but disk utility is fully accessible so you
should be able to do the disk partitioning yourself if you want to go
that way. I'm sure others here can give the blow by blow instructions.

CB

On 6/16/13 6:21 PM, zoe wrote:
Oh ok got it now.  One more question that I thought of and please accept 
my

appologies for asking what may seem stupid questions and for asking them
scattered, my mind is all over the place and I seem to be asking questions
as they come.  Am I to understand that with bootcamp the drive would be
partitioned but with fusion it would not?  Apple said for the partitioning
of the drive they would charge me two hundred and fifty dollars, if I half
to pay it oh well, then I will, but have I gotten confused somewhere down
the line?  I'm sure the drive is partitioned for bootcamp but fusion?
Thanks again and again I'm so sorry for my confusion.

- Original Message -
From: "Alex Hall" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


No, Refit is free and something you will add once you get your machine. 
Jaws

can only read the Windows logon/lock screens, not the boot screen. When a
computer first boots, no operating system has started yet, which is why no
screen reader can possibly be loaded.
On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:21 PM, zoe  wrote:


h refit manager is that something extra I half to by or can apple add
it
on for me?  Also since I'm going to be installing windows with jaws, and
jaws can be configured to the log screen would that do the trick?

- Original Message -
From: "Alex Hall" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Voiceover cannot speak on the boot screen since it is not loaded yet.
Apple
would have to add some form of speech into BIOS, which would be difficult
to
impossible. You can do what I did, though: install the Refit Boot 
Manager,

letting you press m for mac or w for windows when you boot the machine.
On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, zoe  wrote:


Oh thanks so much, good to know I won't have problems with jaws.  As I
said
the man at the apple store actually suggested parallel but if fusion 
does
the trick and most people seem to like it I guess maybe that's the way 
to

go
especially if I'm going to be asking for advice on the use of the
program.
The man at the store thought parallel was a better choice but didn't
state
the reasons why. Don't mean to be repetative but can apple configure
voiceover for me when shipping the imac to me to start up automatically?
Also if using fusion will voiceover speak on the log screen to help me
navigate weather I want to boot mac or windows?

- Original Message -
From: "Nicholas Parsons" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel


Yes, you can install JAWS or any other screen reader on the Windows part
of
your Mac. It doesn't matter w

Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel

I suspect the iMac is built off the same motherboard as the laptop so 
they might not have things engineered to handle the heat or power from a 
faster drive. Or Apple is just being cheap :) The iMac takes a 2.5" SATA 
drive and a 1TB 7200 RPM drive is about $120 from Other World Computing. 
Downside is that to upgrade your internal drive after the factory is a 
non-trivial bit of work:


http://www.macworld.com/article/1167510/ins_and_outs_of_upgrading_your_imac.html

so you might be better off just adding an external fast Thunderbolt 
drive down the road, migrating everything over there and ignore the 
internal drive (or use it for achive/backup). Interesting that Apple 
does offer the 7200 RPM drives on the bigger (more expensive) 27" model.


CB

On 6/16/13 11:00 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Imacs do come with hard drives, or you can get the fusion drive or all flash 
storage, for a price, of course. What surprised me was that the iMac hard drive 
option is a 5400 rpm drive. †hat blew me away. I'd think they'd offer 7200 rpm. 
But the Apple store site clearly has it as a 5400 rpm, like laptops and the Mac 
mini.

Mary

Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com




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Re: 2 extremely frustrating problems - please help

2013-06-19 Thread Rahul Bajaj

Hi all,

Thanks a million for the quick responses.
I guess the problem is with the option key because this gets fixed as
soon as  I press the option key after those weird symbols start
appearing.
But nothing seems to be physically  wrong with the  option key. I
mean, it's not like it's stuck or anything. It's  working  perfectly
otherwise.
So, what should I do?
This problem is occurring more frequently now  than ever before.
Furthermore, the web inspector thingy also gets automatically enabled
from time to time. I have to hide the web inspector in order to
restore things back to normal.


On 16/06/2013, Alex Hall  wrote:
> Me too. Option-cmd-l opens downloads; option-m, if you enabled the keyboard
> commander, opens mail; option with most characters types an alternate
> character, like option-8 for a bullet. So, check the physical key on your
> keyboard and be sure it is working correctly. If it is not a Macbook, you
> might want to replace the keyboard.
> On Jun 15, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Maria & Joe Chapman 
> wrote:
>
>> HI.  yep i thought that too.
>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
>> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> twitter: bubbygirl
>> skype: bubbygirl1972
>>
>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16/06/2013, at 6:57 AM, Maxwell Ivey  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello; i think your option key may be sticking.  because command option l
>>> is the key sequence for opening the downloads manager.  hope that helps,
>>> max
>>> On Jun 15, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 I'm facing 2 weird and frustrating  challenges while using  Safari on my
 Mac.
 1. Sometimes, when I press command-l, instead of being directed to   the
 address bar, I am directed to the downloads folder in Safari. Similarly,
 when I press M in Safari, it opens Apple Mail even when I am in Safari.
 This gets automatically fixed when I restart my Mac a couple of times.
 2. Sometimes, when I use the keyboard to type something, instead of
 showing the letters that I  type, it shows weird symbols like  "Ó´".
 Have I inadvertently enabled or disabled something?
 I'm completely baffled. Please help.

 Best,
 Rahul

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Re: battery packs

Hi there
I have actually used three different ones so far. The first one I got from 
AT&T, and it costed about $50. I found it unsatisfactory because it did not 
charge up my iPhone all the way. The second one was a battery pack, and I'm 
sorry to say I can't remember it's name. The third one I just bought from the 
Apple store, and it so far seems to be the best one. It is called the juice 
pack, but it is not the one that is the case for the iPhone. The juice pack 
people make one that is the case for the iPhone, and they also make another one 
that is a battery pack. When I went to the Apple Store, They checked and 
estimated the amount of charge I would get from this thing. He estimated that 
it would charge the iPhone twice before it ran down. It has two ports on it to 
plug a device in to itself.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:58 PM, jean parker  wrote:

> All:
> I need to purchase a battery pack for my i phone.  Which one's do people on 
> this use?
> Jean
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Re: Questions About Numbers

2013-06-19 Thread Christopher Edwards


Anne,

Thank you for the answer about higselecting. I did think of this but thought 
there might be something simpler.


As for the busy messages I am not running a virtual machine. I do not even 
have Fusion. I might consider using it in the future but then I would 
upgrade the RAM as well.


Thanks for your help.

Chris


-Original Message- 
From: Anne Robertson

Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions About Numbers

Hello Chris,

You can select a column or row in Numbers by going to the first cell in that 
row or column and holding down the Shift key, use either the right arrow key 
for a row, or the down arrow key for a column.


As for your Busy problem, are you by any chance running Windows as a virtual 
machine? If so, you'll need more memory.


Cheers,

Anne




On 19 Jun 2013, at 17:09, Christopher Edwards  
wrote:



Hello,

I have just started using Numbers  on my Macbook Pro running Mountain Lion 
and, so far, have two questions.


1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple Store 
says you have to click on the row number or column letter. I cannot find a 
keyboard shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of navigating to these 
points with the touch pad or keyboard. I am sure there must be a solution 
so please can someone tell me what it is?


2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep getting 
"busy" messages and often have to force quit the program and on one 
occasion even this solution did not work. I seem to remember someone 
saying that increasing RAM makes a big difference. I have 4GB so would it 
be worth doubling this, or maybe adding even more RAM than that?


Many thanks,

Chris Edwards

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Re: battery packs

2013-06-19 Thread Jessica Moss

Is one of the ones you mentioned the Newtrent one?  I have one of those and it 
has the ports on it you mentioned, and I love it.
  I have the heavy-duty one, and find it absolutely amazing.  I don't use it 
for long periods of time, at least not usually, so usually don't have to plug 
it into to the wall to charge again until maybe the middle of the week, but 
it's been a real life saver for me, sense I really don't like having to look 
for a plug whenever I have to stay overnight somewhere.
  I've recommended this one to everyone I know who has a smartphone of any sort.
On Jun 19, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> Hi there
> I have actually used three different ones so far. The first one I got from 
> AT&T, and it costed about $50. I found it unsatisfactory because it did not 
> charge up my iPhone all the way. The second one was a battery pack, and I'm 
> sorry to say I can't remember it's name. The third one I just bought from the 
> Apple store, and it so far seems to be the best one. It is called the juice 
> pack, but it is not the one that is the case for the iPhone. The juice pack 
> people make one that is the case for the iPhone, and they also make another 
> one that is a battery pack. When I went to the Apple Store, They checked and 
> estimated the amount of charge I would get from this thing. He estimated that 
> it would charge the iPhone twice before it ran down. It has two ports on it 
> to plug a device in to itself.
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:58 PM, jean parker  wrote:
> 
>> All:
>> I need to purchase a battery pack for my i phone.  Which one's do people on 
>> this use?
>> Jean
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Re: Questions About Numbers

2013-06-19 Thread Patrick Neazer

Hello Christopher and all:

I do not know what computer you are running numbers upon. I am not the worlds 
most awesome user … that would be Anne. however, I am able to comment upon the 
ram issue. If you can afford the luxury of more ram, I would do so. now, of 
course, there may be some blow back from others stating that they can run 
safari and numbers and mail and the US space program on 2 gigs of ram. Yes, you 
can do that … just like I can run up hill pulling my groceries with a rope and 
ox cart :). I can do so though why would I want to if the issue is being 
productive and comfortable?

The ram will never go to waste. It is a fantastic investment in the life of 
your computer. I cannot tell you how to spend your money … you would not listen 
to me anyway :). To reiterate however, if you can swing it swing it :).

Hopefully this information was useful to you. Please let us know.

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick 
On Jun 19, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Christopher Edwards  
wrote:

> Anne,
> 
> Thank you for the answer about higselecting. I did think of this but thought 
> there might be something simpler.
> 
> As for the busy messages I am not running a virtual machine. I do not even 
> have Fusion. I might consider using it in the future but then I would upgrade 
> the RAM as well.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Anne Robertson
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:55 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Questions About Numbers
> 
> Hello Chris,
> 
> You can select a column or row in Numbers by going to the first cell in that 
> row or column and holding down the Shift key, use either the right arrow key 
> for a row, or the down arrow key for a column.
> 
> As for your Busy problem, are you by any chance running Windows as a virtual 
> machine? If so, you'll need more memory.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 Jun 2013, at 17:09, Christopher Edwards  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I have just started using Numbers  on my Macbook Pro running Mountain Lion 
>> and, so far, have two questions.
>> 
>> 1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple Store says 
>> you have to click on the row number or column letter. I cannot find a 
>> keyboard shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of navigating to these 
>> points with the touch pad or keyboard. I am sure there must be a solution so 
>> please can someone tell me what it is?
>> 
>> 2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep getting 
>> "busy" messages and often have to force quit the program and on one occasion 
>> even this solution did not work. I seem to remember someone saying that 
>> increasing RAM makes a big difference. I have 4GB so would it be worth 
>> doubling this, or maybe adding even more RAM than that?
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> 
>> Chris Edwards
>> 
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Re: Questions About Numbers

Hi there
I realize any amount of money is too much if you don't have it, but I paid 
about $81 to get my extra RAM put it.
Regards,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 19, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Patrick Neazer  wrote:

> Hello Christopher and all:
> 
> I do not know what computer you are running numbers upon. I am not the worlds 
> most awesome user … that would be Anne. however, I am able to comment upon 
> the ram issue. If you can afford the luxury of more ram, I would do so. now, 
> of course, there may be some blow back from others stating that they can run 
> safari and numbers and mail and the US space program on 2 gigs of ram. Yes, 
> you can do that … just like I can run up hill pulling my groceries with a 
> rope and ox cart :). I can do so though why would I want to if the issue is 
> being productive and comfortable?
> 
> The ram will never go to waste. It is a fantastic investment in the life of 
> your computer. I cannot tell you how to spend your money … you would not 
> listen to me anyway :). To reiterate however, if you can swing it swing it :).
> 
> Hopefully this information was useful to you. Please let us know.
> 
> Take good care and I wish you enough.
> 
> Patrick 
> On Jun 19, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Christopher Edwards 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Anne,
>> 
>> Thank you for the answer about higselecting. I did think of this but thought 
>> there might be something simpler.
>> 
>> As for the busy messages I am not running a virtual machine. I do not even 
>> have Fusion. I might consider using it in the future but then I would 
>> upgrade the RAM as well.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Anne Robertson
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:55 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Questions About Numbers
>> 
>> Hello Chris,
>> 
>> You can select a column or row in Numbers by going to the first cell in that 
>> row or column and holding down the Shift key, use either the right arrow key 
>> for a row, or the down arrow key for a column.
>> 
>> As for your Busy problem, are you by any chance running Windows as a virtual 
>> machine? If so, you'll need more memory.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 Jun 2013, at 17:09, Christopher Edwards  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I have just started using Numbers  on my Macbook Pro running Mountain Lion 
>>> and, so far, have two questions.
>>> 
>>> 1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple Store 
>>> says you have to click on the row number or column letter. I cannot find a 
>>> keyboard shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of navigating to these 
>>> points with the touch pad or keyboard. I am sure there must be a solution 
>>> so please can someone tell me what it is?
>>> 
>>> 2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep getting 
>>> "busy" messages and often have to force quit the program and on one 
>>> occasion even this solution did not work. I seem to remember someone saying 
>>> that increasing RAM makes a big difference. I have 4GB so would it be worth 
>>> doubling this, or maybe adding even more RAM than that?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks,
>>> 
>>> Chris Edwards
>>> 
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Re: Questions About Numbers

2013-06-19 Thread Christopher Edwards


Hello Patrick,

I am using a Macbook Pro. At present I have 4GB of RAM and am thinking of 
doubling this although I understand from the Apple store I could go up to 
16GB on this model.


Yes, extra RAM can certainly bring a significant increase in performance.

Thank you for your response.

Chris


-Original Message- 
From: Patrick Neazer

Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:57 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions About Numbers

Hello Christopher and all:

I do not know what computer you are running numbers upon. I am not the 
worlds most awesome user … that would be Anne. however, I am able to comment 
upon the ram issue. If you can afford the luxury of more ram, I would do so. 
now, of course, there may be some blow back from others stating that they 
can run safari and numbers and mail and the US space program on 2 gigs of 
ram. Yes, you can do that … just like I can run up hill pulling my groceries 
with a rope and ox cart :). I can do so though why would I want to if the 
issue is being productive and comfortable?


The ram will never go to waste. It is a fantastic investment in the life of 
your computer. I cannot tell you how to spend your money … you would not 
listen to me anyway :). To reiterate however, if you can swing it swing it 
:).


Hopefully this information was useful to you. Please let us know.

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick
On Jun 19, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Christopher Edwards 
 wrote:



Anne,

Thank you for the answer about higselecting. I did think of this but 
thought there might be something simpler.


As for the busy messages I am not running a virtual machine. I do not even 
have Fusion. I might consider using it in the future but then I would 
upgrade the RAM as well.


Thanks for your help.

Chris


-Original Message- From: Anne Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:55 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions About Numbers

Hello Chris,

You can select a column or row in Numbers by going to the first cell in 
that row or column and holding down the Shift key, use either the right 
arrow key for a row, or the down arrow key for a column.


As for your Busy problem, are you by any chance running Windows as a 
virtual machine? If so, you'll need more memory.


Cheers,

Anne




On 19 Jun 2013, at 17:09, Christopher Edwards 
 wrote:



Hello,

I have just started using Numbers  on my Macbook Pro running Mountain 
Lion and, so far, have two questions.


1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple Store 
says you have to click on the row number or column letter. I cannot find 
a keyboard shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of navigating to 
these points with the touch pad or keyboard. I am sure there must be a 
solution so please can someone tell me what it is?


2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep getting 
"busy" messages and often have to force quit the program and on one 
occasion even this solution did not work. I seem to remember someone 
saying that increasing RAM makes a big difference. I have 4GB so would it 
be worth doubling this, or maybe adding even more RAM than that?


Many thanks,

Chris Edwards

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Re: battery packs

Hi there 
I can't remember what the brand is; maybe I should. However, I do remember that 
the instructions on it say that the battery life of the device can be extended 
by not waiting until the charge is all gone before plugging it back in. This is 
the because the number of charges in my battery pack is listed at 500 full 
charges, and topping up the battery (the instructions say) does not count 
against the 500 times. I am so used to the ones that you had to run down or it 
ruined the battery that it has taken me some convincing to realize I don't need 
to do that any more. 

I have not run out of power while talking on my iPhone since I got it, partly 
because of having the battery pack but also because of the ability to find out 
how much power I have from the iPhone. 

Regards,
Gigi 
On Jun 19, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

> Is one of the ones you mentioned the Newtrent one?  I have one of those and 
> it has the ports on it you mentioned, and I love it.
>  I have the heavy-duty one, and find it absolutely amazing.  I don't use it 
> for long periods of time, at least not usually, so usually don't have to plug 
> it into to the wall to charge again until maybe the middle of the week, but 
> it's been a real life saver for me, sense I really don't like having to look 
> for a plug whenever I have to stay overnight somewhere.
>  I've recommended this one to everyone I know who has a smartphone of any 
> sort.
> On Jun 19, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> 
>> Hi there
>> I have actually used three different ones so far. The first one I got from 
>> AT&T, and it costed about $50. I found it unsatisfactory because it did not 
>> charge up my iPhone all the way. The second one was a battery pack, and I'm 
>> sorry to say I can't remember it's name. The third one I just bought from 
>> the Apple store, and it so far seems to be the best one. It is called the 
>> juice pack, but it is not the one that is the case for the iPhone. The juice 
>> pack people make one that is the case for the iPhone, and they also make 
>> another one that is a battery pack. When I went to the Apple Store, They 
>> checked and estimated the amount of charge I would get from this thing. He 
>> estimated that it would charge the iPhone twice before it ran down. It has 
>> two ports on it to plug a device in to itself.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 19, 2013, at 1:58 PM, jean parker  wrote:
>> 
>>> All:
>>> I need to purchase a battery pack for my i phone.  Which one's do people on 
>>> this use?
>>> Jean
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Re: Questions About Numbers

2013-06-19 Thread Patrick Neazer

Hello Christopher and all:

I still cannot tell you how to spend your money … you still will not listen to 
me anyway :). 

I have a Mac Book Pro and I bumped it up to 8 gig of ram and it made a 
tremendous difference all around. You can bump it up to 16 and I did though it 
is not necessary unless you just want to make your mac book pro last a long 
time :). 

8 is wonderful to start with and if you find you require some more, you can get 
it later. this pro still hums and I got her in 2011. 

Hopefully this email proves useful. Please let us know and good luck.

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick 
On Jun 19, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Christopher Edwards  
wrote:

> Hello Patrick,
> 
> I am using a Macbook Pro. At present I have 4GB of RAM and am thinking of 
> doubling this although I understand from the Apple store I could go up to 
> 16GB on this model.
> 
> Yes, extra RAM can certainly bring a significant increase in performance.
> 
> Thank you for your response.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Patrick Neazer
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:57 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Questions About Numbers
> 
> Hello Christopher and all:
> 
> I do not know what computer you are running numbers upon. I am not the worlds 
> most awesome user … that would be Anne. however, I am able to comment upon 
> the ram issue. If you can afford the luxury of more ram, I would do so. now, 
> of course, there may be some blow back from others stating that they can run 
> safari and numbers and mail and the US space program on 2 gigs of ram. Yes, 
> you can do that … just like I can run up hill pulling my groceries with a 
> rope and ox cart :). I can do so though why would I want to if the issue is 
> being productive and comfortable?
> 
> The ram will never go to waste. It is a fantastic investment in the life of 
> your computer. I cannot tell you how to spend your money … you would not 
> listen to me anyway :). To reiterate however, if you can swing it swing it :).
> 
> Hopefully this information was useful to you. Please let us know.
> 
> Take good care and I wish you enough.
> 
> Patrick
> On Jun 19, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Christopher Edwards 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Anne,
>> 
>> Thank you for the answer about higselecting. I did think of this but thought 
>> there might be something simpler.
>> 
>> As for the busy messages I am not running a virtual machine. I do not even 
>> have Fusion. I might consider using it in the future but then I would 
>> upgrade the RAM as well.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Anne Robertson
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:55 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Questions About Numbers
>> 
>> Hello Chris,
>> 
>> You can select a column or row in Numbers by going to the first cell in that 
>> row or column and holding down the Shift key, use either the right arrow key 
>> for a row, or the down arrow key for a column.
>> 
>> As for your Busy problem, are you by any chance running Windows as a virtual 
>> machine? If so, you'll need more memory.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 Jun 2013, at 17:09, Christopher Edwards  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I have just started using Numbers  on my Macbook Pro running Mountain Lion 
>>> and, so far, have two questions.
>>> 
>>> 1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple Store 
>>> says you have to click on the row number or column letter. I cannot find a 
>>> keyboard shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of navigating to these 
>>> points with the touch pad or keyboard. I am sure there must be a solution 
>>> so please can someone tell me what it is?
>>> 
>>> 2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep getting 
>>> "busy" messages and often have to force quit the program and on one 
>>> occasion even this solution did not work. I seem to remember someone saying 
>>> that increasing RAM makes a big difference. I have 4GB so would it be worth 
>>> doubling this, or maybe adding even more RAM than that?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks,
>>> 
>>> Chris Edwards
>>> 
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Re: Questions About Numbers

Hi Chris 
If I had the choice of adding memory to my computer up to 16 gigabytes, I would 
do it. In the last keynote that Apple did, they said that they were going to 
make changes so that applications would make beter use of memory. I mean, if 
they are going to take your old memory out and put more in, they might as well 
do it once. 

Regards,
Gigi


On Jun 19, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Christopher Edwards  
wrote:

> Hello Patrick,
> 
> I am using a Macbook Pro. At present I have 4GB of RAM and am thinking of 
> doubling this although I understand from the Apple store I could go up to 
> 16GB on this model.
> 
> Yes, extra RAM can certainly bring a significant increase in performance.
> 
> Thank you for your response.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Patrick Neazer
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:57 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Questions About Numbers
> 
> Hello Christopher and all:
> 
> I do not know what computer you are running numbers upon. I am not the worlds 
> most awesome user … that would be Anne. however, I am able to comment upon 
> the ram issue. If you can afford the luxury of more ram, I would do so. now, 
> of course, there may be some blow back from others stating that they can run 
> safari and numbers and mail and the US space program on 2 gigs of ram. Yes, 
> you can do that … just like I can run up hill pulling my groceries with a 
> rope and ox cart :). I can do so though why would I want to if the issue is 
> being productive and comfortable?
> 
> The ram will never go to waste. It is a fantastic investment in the life of 
> your computer. I cannot tell you how to spend your money … you would not 
> listen to me anyway :). To reiterate however, if you can swing it swing it :).
> 
> Hopefully this information was useful to you. Please let us know.
> 
> Take good care and I wish you enough.
> 
> Patrick
> On Jun 19, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Christopher Edwards 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Anne,
>> 
>> Thank you for the answer about higselecting. I did think of this but thought 
>> there might be something simpler.
>> 
>> As for the busy messages I am not running a virtual machine. I do not even 
>> have Fusion. I might consider using it in the future but then I would 
>> upgrade the RAM as well.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Anne Robertson
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:55 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Questions About Numbers
>> 
>> Hello Chris,
>> 
>> You can select a column or row in Numbers by going to the first cell in that 
>> row or column and holding down the Shift key, use either the right arrow key 
>> for a row, or the down arrow key for a column.
>> 
>> As for your Busy problem, are you by any chance running Windows as a virtual 
>> machine? If so, you'll need more memory.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 Jun 2013, at 17:09, Christopher Edwards  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I have just started using Numbers  on my Macbook Pro running Mountain Lion 
>>> and, so far, have two questions.
>>> 
>>> 1. How can I select a whole row or column? A trainer at the Apple Store 
>>> says you have to click on the row number or column letter. I cannot find a 
>>> keyboard shortcut to do this nor can I find a way of navigating to these 
>>> points with the touch pad or keyboard. I am sure there must be a solution 
>>> so please can someone tell me what it is?
>>> 
>>> 2. Even though my spreadsheets have been very small so far I keep getting 
>>> "busy" messages and often have to force quit the program and on one 
>>> occasion even this solution did not work. I seem to remember someone saying 
>>> that increasing RAM makes a big difference. I have 4GB so would it be worth 
>>> doubling this, or maybe adding even more RAM than that?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks,
>>> 
>>> Chris Edwards
>>> 
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Skype Issue

2013-06-19 Thread Scott Rumery

Hello,

I am having an issue with Skype lately in which the keyboard command for 
hanging up a call does not work unless I go into the menu bar and arrow over to 
Conversation. Once I do this I can dismiss the menu bar by pressing the escape 
key and then my keyboard will work properly. This has been going on for several 
weeks now. Is anyone else our there having a similar issue with Skype on their 
Mac? If so, have you found any way to make the command work the way that it is 
suppose to?

Thank you for any help that you can give me.
Scott Rumery

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Screen Curtain and Screen Brightness

Hi all, but particularly Ricardo,

Can I preserve battery life on my MacBook Air by lowering screen brightness and 
turning the screen curtain on? Or, to get the advantage of low screen 
brightness, do I need to leave the screen curtain off?

Cheers,
Nic

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Re: Screen Curtain and Screen Brightness

2013-06-19 Thread Dave

Screen curtain blacks your screen. It does not turn it off. It's painting 
the screen black, so the screen is active. The same goes for IOS devices. It 
does not save battery.


Dimming your screen brightness does save you some battery life.

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Re: logic pro 9

Great!  Glad to here it.  I'm going to be working on the next part probably 
firt thing tomorrow morning.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "keith weatherly" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

That I will do, I've been listening to your pro tools podcasts and really
liking them.

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Gilland

Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

No problem.  As I said, I am big into audio, and do professional audio
design / production work for a living, so I know all about Garageband,
ProTools, Amadeus, etc.  so if you need any further help, reach out to
either my business's tech support department, or fire me off an e-mail
either on or off list, and I'll try to help you out where I best can.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "keith weatherly" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

ok thank you.

-Original Message- 
From: Ricardo Walker

Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:29 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

Hi,

I’m pretty sure there is no logic 10 at this point.  9 is the current
version of logic.  From everything I’ve read, its not very accessible with
Voiceover either.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Walter Harper  wrote:

I don’t think there is a podcast for logic 9 logic 10 is the current 
version.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of keith weatherly

Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: logic pro 9

Does any one know if or where there’s a audio podcast that goes over Logic 
pro 9 using Voiceover?

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Re: logic pro 9

I myself have not done any on Amadeus, but there is a very very! good 
podcast done on


http://www.blindcooltech.com

once there just do a search for the word Amadeus.  the guy is taking an old 
lp record and converting it to mp3, but in the process, he does show you how 
to edit, and move around, etc.  It's quite in depth, and frankly, it's the 
exact recording I used to learn the app myself.  He did a bangup! job!


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "keith weatherly" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9


I don’t have pro tools yet, but I do have Amadeus. Do you have any podcasts
on that program?

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Gilland

Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:10 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

No problem.  As I said, I am big into audio, and do professional audio
design / production work for a living, so I know all about Garageband,
ProTools, Amadeus, etc.  so if you need any further help, reach out to
either my business's tech support department, or fire me off an e-mail
either on or off list, and I'll try to help you out where I best can.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "keith weatherly" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: logic pro 9


ok thank you.

-Original Message- 
From: Ricardo Walker

Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:29 PM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: logic pro 9

Hi,

I’m pretty sure there is no logic 10 at this point.  9 is the current
version of logic.  From everything I’ve read, its not very accessible with
Voiceover either.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Walter Harper  wrote:

I don’t think there is a podcast for logic 9 logic 10 is the current 
version.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of keith weatherly

Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: logic pro 9

Does any one know if or where there’s a audio podcast that goes over Logic 
pro 9 using Voiceover?

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Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar

Hi,

Okay, Anne, you make a strong argument. I'll refrain from kicking Apple 
executives for your benefit.

I played around with key remapping, but just using the options in system 
preferences. Nothing worked for me though. From the sounds of things, neither 
would the more advanced options. Having capslock as VO keys does nothing to fix 
the problem that I have as capslock is also on the left side of the keybord. 
I'm looking for VO keys on the right side of the keybord. Using the right shift 
key as control wouldn't work as then I couldn't type capital letters on the 
left side of the keybord. Similarly, using command and shift together to be 
control wouldn't work as then I couldn't perform short cuts like 
command-shift-d to send or add to reading list, command-shift-a to add 
attachments etcetera. Also, that still wouldn't allow me to perform keystrokes 
like command-control-a to archive in Mail without moving my right hand over to 
the left side of the keybord. Well, actually, maybe I could hit command-a with 
my left hand and command-shift with my right hand. Basically I haven't found 
any way that makes my MacBook keybord as easy to use as the full USB keybord. 
But to paraphrase Mary, life still goes on… Just a little less efficiently.

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Re: Screen Curtain and Screen Brightness

You could do both, but frankly, I'd just lower the brightness as that will 
take it down to literally the screen being turned off completely.  Just know 
that if you reboot, it'll go bafck to the default value.  Turning on the 
curtain does not get it totally off.  It's extremely darn near close, but 
there is an ever ever ever! so slightly dim gray glow to the screen still 
when you do this.


I think personally, doing both is a little bit overkill but that's just me.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Nicholas Parsons" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:40 PM
Subject: Screen Curtain and Screen Brightness



Hi all, but particularly Ricardo,

Can I preserve battery life on my MacBook Air by lowering screen 
brightness and turning the screen curtain on? Or, to get the advantage of 
low screen brightness, do I need to leave the screen curtain off?


Cheers,
Nic

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Re: Screen Curtain and Screen Brightness

HI,

Thanks for the comments and info.

I'm not really fussed about overkill. What I particularly want to know is, if I 
turn the screen curtain on, will this undermine any benefit of having the 
screen brightness at 0? I understand screen curtain does not turn the screen 
off, but is it therefore the same as having it on with low brightness? I kinda 
got mixed messages from you both but what I think you're both saying is that 
screen curtain makes no difference so I can have it on and brightness set to 0 
and this will conserve some battery life. Is that right?

Thanks again for your help.

Nic

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Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar

2013-06-19 Thread Esther

Hi Mary and Others,

Oops, I goofed on the description of Cheryl's setup with KeyRemap4Macbook. 
 I said she set up Right Command+Shift to be the Control key, but it was 
Right Command+Return.  So you press Right Command+Right Option +Return (or 
"Enter", if you prefer the Windows term), and you get the VO-keys at the 
right side of the keyboard without interfering with other keystroke 
combinations.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:33:10 PM UTC-4, Esther wrote:
>
> Hi Mary and Others,
>
> As Phil and others have stated, you can use keyremap4macbook to get both 
> an embedded Numpad working, and you can modify your keyboard to so that you 
> have VO-keys on the right side of the keyboard.  Mary, since you're on the 
> mac-access list, you can check their archives for my posting of a complete 
> description on using keyremap4macbook  last August.  I also posted a link 
> to that post on the AppleVis web site guides and podcasts that Eric Caron 
> submitted.That post describes not only how keyremap4macbook works, but the 
> fastest ways I found of navigating to set up a variety of different types 
> of key remappings using VoiceOver. 
>
> Back in January, Cheryl Homiak described a slightly different way of 
> getting VO-keys on the right side of the keyboard than Traci uses. KR4MB 
> (to abbreviate) lets you configure keys that only act when they are used in 
> combination with other keys.  Cheryl set up her keyboard so that the right 
> Command key acts as a Command key when pressed by itself, but acts as a 
> Control key when pressed together with the right Shift key. So, she 
> basically has VO-keys on the right side of the keyboard by pressing the two 
> keys next to the space bar, along with the right Shift key, reached by 
> stretching over with the pinky, I think, of her right hand.
>
> Like Anne, I'm used to typing on a Mac laptop keyboard and executing all 
> the VoiceOver keyboard shortcuts without assistance, but I do like the 
> default action of KR4MB, even without the hack to get the caps lock key 
> mapped to be the VO-keys.  First, you can automatically get access to an 
> embedded numpad on the right side of the keyboard.  You get the full numpad 
> extending below the "7 8 9" keys on the top row of number keys simply by 
> pressing the "Fn" key together with the corresponding embedded numpad key. 
>  Even better, if you turn on NumPad Commander, you can use these keys in 
> combination with modifiers to get the complete range of your customized 
> NumPad Commander definitions.  And if you don't want to have the embedded 
> NumPad, you can simply check a box in the KR4MB preferences setup to 
> disable this feature.  Then you could use an additional external NumPad. 
>  But you could still use KR4MB to let you press the Command+Option+Shift 
> keys on the right side of the keyboard to act as the Control+Option keys 
> for VoiceOver.
>
> HTH.  Cheers,
>
> Esther   
>
> On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:50:11 AM UTC-4, Traci wrote:
>>
>> I use keyRemap, and now the right command key is a control key.  So I 
>> have VO keys on the right. 
>>
>> I also followed some instructions on AppleVis to set my caps lock key as 
>> voKeys, but funny enough, I don't use it much.  I have a feeling that tweak 
>> was for Jaws users. 
>>
>> TC, 
>> Traci 
>> On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:46 AM, "Phil Halton"  wrote: 
>>
>> > I think I remember someone saying that they used a key remap app to set 
>> right shift key to act as the right control key. Then, right option+right 
>> shift acted as right VO keys. 
>> > 
>> > - Original Message - From: "Pamela J Francis"  
>>
>> > To:  
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:32 AM 
>> > Subject: Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Hi Mary, 
>> > I dove in to the mac world with a laptop & never bought a full 
>> keyboard. There are times I have found the need to come to the left side of 
>> my keyboard with my right hand, however, It is tolerable. I would think you 
>> could set a hot key to do what your wanting to do minus your full keyboard. 
>> > On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote: 
>> > 
>> >> This is directed at laptop users who elect to stick with the built in 
>> keyboard on your laptop, rather than connecting a full usb keyboard. I am 
>> very use to my full keyboard with its num pad, which gives me access to num 
>> pad commander and both sets of vo keys. I also have a magic track pad, but 
>> to be honest, I don't use it much, as it is separate from the keyboard, and 
>> I've just never found it all that efficient. 
>> >> 
>> >> That having been said, I'm strongly considering purchase of a Macbook 
>> Air, and that has no num pad and no vo keys to the right of the space bar. 
>> There are certain vo command combinations that I use a whole lot, like vo A 
>> and vo D, just to name a couple, and there is no way I can do those with my 
>> left hand alone. I'm guessing that having the track pad inte

Really frustrating issue downloading movie with new iTunes update

2013-06-19 Thread Christine Grassman

I purchased a movie via iTunes and am attempting to download it. It asks for my 
Apple ID, the download button dims, and after a few minutes, I em tossed into 
the movie grid, and the movie is not downloaded. I start the entire process al 
over again: go to the iTunes store, go to purchased, select the movie I want to 
download, sign in, and . . . this has happened about four times already. Any 
thoughts on what the heck is going on and what I can do about it? Already left 
iTunes and went back in; already tried a restart. 

Christine

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Re: 2 extremely frustrating problems - please help

2013-06-19 Thread Tim Kilburn

Hi,

Maybe try a reset of your PRAM.

1.  Restart or Shutdown your Mac.
2.  As soon as the Startup chime sounds, hold down the Command, the Option, the 
"r" key and the "p" key.
3.  Keep the key combination down for two more Startup Chimes past the first 
one then release everything.

See if that makes a difference.  The key combination is awkward but totally 
doable.  Normally, I put my left thumb across the left cmd and option keys, and 
my left index on the "r" and right pinky on the "p".  If that doesn't really do 
anything, then it may be an actual electronic issue with the keyboard.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-06-19, at 1:57 PM, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks a million for the quick responses.
> I guess the problem is with the option key because this gets fixed as
> soon as  I press the option key after those weird symbols start
> appearing.
> But nothing seems to be physically  wrong with the  option key. I
> mean, it's not like it's stuck or anything. It's  working  perfectly
> otherwise.
> So, what should I do?
> This problem is occurring more frequently now  than ever before.
> Furthermore, the web inspector thingy also gets automatically enabled
> from time to time. I have to hide the web inspector in order to
> restore things back to normal.
> 
> 
> On 16/06/2013, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> Me too. Option-cmd-l opens downloads; option-m, if you enabled the keyboard
>> commander, opens mail; option with most characters types an alternate
>> character, like option-8 for a bullet. So, check the physical key on your
>> keyboard and be sure it is working correctly. If it is not a Macbook, you
>> might want to replace the keyboard.
>> On Jun 15, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Maria & Joe Chapman 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> HI.  yep i thought that too.
>>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
>>> Email/ I Message: &fb  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> twitter: bubbygirl
>>> skype: bubbygirl1972
>>> 
>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 16/06/2013, at 6:57 AM, Maxwell Ivey  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello; i think your option key may be sticking.  because command option l
 is the key sequence for opening the downloads manager.  hope that helps,
 max
 On Jun 15, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm facing 2 weird and frustrating  challenges while using  Safari on my
> Mac.
> 1. Sometimes, when I press command-l, instead of being directed to   the
> address bar, I am directed to the downloads folder in Safari. Similarly,
> when I press M in Safari, it opens Apple Mail even when I am in Safari.
> This gets automatically fixed when I restart my Mac a couple of times.
> 2. Sometimes, when I use the keyboard to type something, instead of
> showing the letters that I  type, it shows weird symbols like  "Ó´".
> Have I inadvertently enabled or disabled something?
> I'm completely baffled. Please help.
> 
> Best,
> Rahul
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