Hi Mary and Others, Oops, I goofed on the description of Cheryl's setup with KeyRemap4Macbook. I said she set up Right Command+Shift to be the Control key, but it was Right Command+Return. So you press Right Command+Right Option +Return (or "Enter", if you prefer the Windows term), and you get the VO-keys at the right side of the keyboard without interfering with other keystroke combinations.
HTH. Cheers, Esther On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:33:10 PM UTC-4, Esther wrote: > > Hi Mary and Others, > > As Phil and others have stated, you can use keyremap4macbook to get both > an embedded Numpad working, and you can modify your keyboard to so that you > have VO-keys on the right side of the keyboard. Mary, since you're on the > mac-access list, you can check their archives for my posting of a complete > description on using keyremap4macbook last August. I also posted a link > to that post on the AppleVis web site guides and podcasts that Eric Caron > submitted.That post describes not only how keyremap4macbook works, but the > fastest ways I found of navigating to set up a variety of different types > of key remappings using VoiceOver. > > Back in January, Cheryl Homiak described a slightly different way of > getting VO-keys on the right side of the keyboard than Traci uses. KR4MB > (to abbreviate) lets you configure keys that only act when they are used in > combination with other keys. Cheryl set up her keyboard so that the right > Command key acts as a Command key when pressed by itself, but acts as a > Control key when pressed together with the right Shift key. So, she > basically has VO-keys on the right side of the keyboard by pressing the two > keys next to the space bar, along with the right Shift key, reached by > stretching over with the pinky, I think, of her right hand. > > Like Anne, I'm used to typing on a Mac laptop keyboard and executing all > the VoiceOver keyboard shortcuts without assistance, but I do like the > default action of KR4MB, even without the hack to get the caps lock key > mapped to be the VO-keys. First, you can automatically get access to an > embedded numpad on the right side of the keyboard. You get the full numpad > extending below the "7 8 9" keys on the top row of number keys simply by > pressing the "Fn" key together with the corresponding embedded numpad key. > Even better, if you turn on NumPad Commander, you can use these keys in > combination with modifiers to get the complete range of your customized > NumPad Commander definitions. And if you don't want to have the embedded > NumPad, you can simply check a box in the KR4MB preferences setup to > disable this feature. Then you could use an additional external NumPad. > But you could still use KR4MB to let you press the Command+Option+Shift > keys on the right side of the keyboard to act as the Control+Option keys > for VoiceOver. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:50:11 AM UTC-4, Traci wrote: >> >> I use keyRemap, and now the right command key is a control key. So I >> have VO keys on the right. >> >> I also followed some instructions on AppleVis to set my caps lock key as >> voKeys, but funny enough, I don't use it much. I have a feeling that tweak >> was for Jaws users. >> >> TC, >> Traci >> On Jun 19, 2013, at 6:46 AM, "Phil Halton" <phil...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > I think I remember someone saying that they used a key remap app to set >> right shift key to act as the right control key. Then, right option+right >> shift acted as right VO keys. >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela J Francis" <ppowe...@aol.com> >> >> > To: <macvisi...@googlegroups.com> >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:32 AM >> > Subject: Re: making do with no vo keys to right of space bar >> > >> > >> > Hi Mary, >> > I dove in to the mac world with a laptop & never bought a full >> keyboard. There are times I have found the need to come to the left side of >> my keyboard with my right hand, however, It is tolerable. I would think you >> could set a hot key to do what your wanting to do minus your full keyboard. >> > On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Mary Otten <mott...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> This is directed at laptop users who elect to stick with the built in >> keyboard on your laptop, rather than connecting a full usb keyboard. I am >> very use to my full keyboard with its num pad, which gives me access to num >> pad commander and both sets of vo keys. I also have a magic track pad, but >> to be honest, I don't use it much, as it is separate from the keyboard, and >> I've just never found it all that efficient. >> >> >> >> That having been said, I'm strongly considering purchase of a Macbook >> Air, and that has no num pad and no vo keys to the right of the space bar. >> There are certain vo command combinations that I use a whole lot, like vo A >> and vo D, just to name a couple, and there is no way I can do those with my >> left hand alone. I'm guessing that having the track pad integral to the >> machine will make it a lot more natural feeling. I'd still like to kick >> Apple for getting rid of the control key on the right, but since that's not >> practical, I'd be curious how you MacBook owners who also have desktops >> with a full keyboard dealt with the transition. Do you miss the vo keys on >> the right and the num pad? >> >> >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> Mary Otten >> >> mott...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
