Re: VO reads things twice

[Nicholas Parsons]

HI Gigi,

Yes, this happens to me too, a lot.

I use column browser view in Finder. One time I notice it happening a lot is 
when , say, I have a folder called Downloads and inside that folder a file 
called Document A. I'll interact with the file browser and VoiceOver will 
announce I am on Downloads folder. I will move to the right with VO-Right Arrow 
so that the focus is on Document A but VoiceOver will read Downloads folder, 
Document A. I used to get confused by VoiceOver announcing Downloads folder, 
thinking it hadn't moved properly and so I would VO-Right Arrow again, which 
would have the unintended consequence of moving me into the information/details 
column instead of the file name column. 

I also notice what you describe happening to me in Mail. When I move to a new 
Mail message or conversation thread VoiceOver will often announce the previous 
message as well, which means I have to often double check what message I'm on 
because VoiceOver has told me two seemingly different things.
 
I'm just not sure whether this is a bug or feature of VoiceOver.

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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Brandon,

Thanks for posting this.  I've wondered about Dragon for Mac.  I have two 
questions:

1.  What do you like about using Dragon over the Mac's built-in dictation? 

2.  Is it possible to export a user profile in Dragon 3 so it can be used on 
multiple computers?
Thanks,
Donna
On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am loving 
> it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many bad reviews 
> online about this version. However, so far, it has been wonderful!
> 
> I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very well it 
> seems.
> 
> I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been very 
> accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
> 
> Brandon
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Re: XCode Disappeared From My Applications Folder

[Gavin Grundlingh]

Hi all,

Just wanted to let everyone know that I managed to solve my XCode problem from 
yesterday. It turns out AppDelete maintains an archive of previously deleted 
apps, and that was where XCode was hiding. The Mac app store detects apps on 
your system, even if they're not in your Applications folder or on your 
internal harr drive, so it kept listing XCode as installed
.
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On 05 Feb 2013, at 7:58 AM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Yesterday, the app store told me I had an update for XCode. I've just 
> downloaded it, but now the XCode app has disappeared from my applications 
> folder. I did a Spotlight search for it and got 0 results. When I went back 
> to the Purchases page of the app store, it says that XCode is already 
> installed. Is there any way to reinstall purchases from the app store?
> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: o. t.: Microsoft Office for Mac! Important: read and leave comments!

[Sean Murphy]

Sara,

I would suggest you visit the Apple web accessibility pages. this is a good 
starting point. There is documentation on the Mac itself for Voice-Over which 
will also give you help.

Shortcut of commands to help:

command f5 activates/deactivates Voice-over. Note, if you are using the default 
behaviour of the function keys. Then you will have to include the fn key 
assuming you are using a laptop or the newer bluetooth keyboards.

option control is regarded as the VO command.
vo left and right arrow moves between controls.
vo shift up and down arrow interact with objects. Like Edit, tables, etc. 
vo h open help menu.
vo k turns on keyboard help. Press keys with vo and you will hear their 
function.
vo ? opens help
vo down/up arrow moves up and down.
vo space activates an item.


That should be enough for you to start with.

Sean 
On 05/02/2013, at 4:39 AM, SaraFord  wrote:

> Hi Everyone!
>  
> Wow, thanks for all the responses! I appreciate the warm welcome. I’ve read 
> all the comments, even though I'm replying to the middle of the thread. And I 
> have taken notes. I’ve also learned that there are also other areas I need to 
> investigate that I wouldn’t have known about if it wasn’t for this thread.
>  
> For what it’s worth, my personal philosophy is that software is about people. 
> Sure, at the end of the day, the code must be written correctly, but it is 
> the experiences of the people who both use the code and write the code that 
> matter the most. So thanks again for sharing your experiences with me. It is 
> all about people.
>  
> One question I have for this forum is where might I find the best training 
> materials for learning Voice Over? As I mentioned previously, I’ve been 
> trained in the past on Window Eyes and JAWS. I’m hoping there are some online 
> courses or documentation out there so I can learn to use Voice Over 
> effectively. It doesn’t matter what application the training is for. I just 
> need to get used to the keyboard shortcuts and how Voice Over structures its 
> Text to Speech output.
>  
> Thanks,
> -sara
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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Chris H]

Nice can this be gotten from the Mac app store?


Christopher Hallsworth

On 06/02/2013 05:55, Brandon Olivares wrote:

Hello all,

I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am loving it. 
I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many bad reviews online 
about this version. However, so far, it has been wonderful!

I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very well it 
seems.

I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been very 
accurate. It is so fun to play with it!

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Re: o. t.: Microsoft Office for Mac! Important: read and leave comments!

[Sean Murphy]

Hi All.

Ms Office for windows is equal to the Mac version. Only reason why it is so 
accessible is by third party vendors, not by Microsoft. Microsoft provided the 
DOM environment to permit third parties to create scripts in any language to do 
custom actions. So JFW and Window-eyes, plus other window screen reader have 
taken advantage of this, resulting in a very accessible program. 

So the MS Office team under Windows is not even that committed to 
accessibility. Sure they have included the MSAA components for specific areas 
like menus and dialogs. But the edit area within Word for example is just 
equally inaccessible as the Mac. I haven't use the Windows provided screen 
reader for a long time. But I believe it doesn't even access the document area. 
If I am in error, then please correct in relation to this point.

So Sara, this is an opportunity for MS to fix it on both platforms. Specially 
with the improvements I understand are in the new version of Windows 8.


Also everyone, you must relies that MS Windows is industry standard and there 
are not many companies who don't use Office.

Just for the list, I will list some of the features that Office Word should 
make exposed:

Being able to navigate the document by character, word, line, sentence, 
paragraph.
Detecting different fonts, attributes of fonts, point sizes, colour of fonts, 
line heights, etc.
Styles being used.
tables and navigation of them.
Column detection and navigation of them.
Page detection 
Detection of graphics.
Detections of borders and their properties 
Bullets, list, indents and their properties.
detection of spelling and gramma errors.


Is there anything else I have missed everyone?

Sean 
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> On 05/02/2013, at 6:02 AM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> My input here is that what you are stating is that by the time Word and 
>> Excel become accessible most people either won't switch or like something 
>> better.
>> On 2013-02-04, at 5:31 AM, Max  wrote:
>> 
>>> A few notes on MS Office for Mac OS from my perspective:
>>> 
>>> -In my experience both Word and Excel are unusable. In Word I 
>>> cannot actually write and read back what I’ve written. In Excel, I can’t 
>>> navigate and manipulate cells. For these reasons I do not use either 
>>> programme on the Mac. Really, this is very basic and MS should be ashamed 
>>> of themselves for shipping such an unaccessible  product.
>>> 
>>> -The fact that Word is broken on Mac has forced me to explore 
>>> alternatives. I’ve leart to use both Pages and Scrivener. I am now a 
>>> Scrivener fan and would probably not go back to Word even if it became 
>>> accessible on Mac. I would probably never even have tried Scrivener had 
>>> Word been accessible.
>>> 
>>> -I am encouraged that MS is seemingly trying to take accessibility 
>>> more seriously. However, good intentions only go so far. Even their own 
>>> operating system is inaccessible without extremely expensive third party 
>>> software like JAWS. Apple has put them to shame with Voice Over. I will 
>>> only believe in change at MS once I see it. Until they start putting their 
>>> code where their mouth is, I will encourage other blind people to switch to 
>>> Mac.
>>> 
>>> Finally, my criticism above obviously does not apply to Sarah, but rather 
>>> to MS as a whole. Thank you Sarah for joining the list and taking the time 
>>> to read all the comments posted here. Hopefully you can be part of a new 
>>> more decent MS.
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Re: placing things on the doc

[Chris H]

Yes and to do this press command=shift=t on any Finder window to add to 
dock.



Christopher Hallsworth

On 06/02/2013 03:08, Jed Barton wrote:

Hey guys,

Say i have a program that i use a lot, can i put it on the doc so i can launch 
it quicker?  This would be really helpful.
Thanks guys for all your help, sincerely appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: VO reads things twice

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

why interact and start using VO navigation commands at all?  In column view, to 
browse and open files/folders, this is not necessary.  Just pressing the right 
arrow will open a folder, left arrow closes the folder.  Command O will open a 
file or application.

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wrote:

> HI Gigi,
> 
> Yes, this happens to me too, a lot.
> 
> I use column browser view in Finder. One time I notice it happening a lot is 
> when , say, I have a folder called Downloads and inside that folder a file 
> called Document A. I'll interact with the file browser and VoiceOver will 
> announce I am on Downloads folder. I will move to the right with VO-Right 
> Arrow so that the focus is on Document A but VoiceOver will read Downloads 
> folder, Document A. I used to get confused by VoiceOver announcing Downloads 
> folder, thinking it hadn't moved properly and so I would VO-Right Arrow 
> again, which would have the unintended consequence of moving me into the 
> information/details column instead of the file name column. 
> 
> I also notice what you describe happening to me in Mail. When I move to a new 
> Mail message or conversation thread VoiceOver will often announce the 
> previous message as well, which means I have to often double check what 
> message I'm on because VoiceOver has told me two seemingly different things.
> 
> I'm just not sure whether this is a bug or feature of VoiceOver.
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Re: o. t.: Microsoft Office for Mac! Important: read and leave comments!

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there
If you're going to run Pages to learn VoiceOver, I think there is one more 
command that you would want to know about. That is the Item Chooser which you 
get to with VO i. Then you use down arrow to get to the things on the list and 
VO space to make the choice. 

Regards, 
Gigi 


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:34 AM, Sean Murphy  wrote:

> Sara,
> 
> I would suggest you visit the Apple web accessibility pages. this is a good 
> starting point. There is documentation on the Mac itself for Voice-Over which 
> will also give you help.
> 
> Shortcut of commands to help:
> 
> command f5 activates/deactivates Voice-over. Note, if you are using the 
> default behaviour of the function keys. Then you will have to include the fn 
> key assuming you are using a laptop or the newer bluetooth keyboards.
> 
> option control is regarded as the VO command.
> vo left and right arrow moves between controls.
> vo shift up and down arrow interact with objects. Like Edit, tables, etc. 
> vo h open help menu.
> vo k turns on keyboard help. Press keys with vo and you will hear their 
> function.
> vo ? opens help
> vo down/up arrow moves up and down.
> vo space activates an item.
> 
> 
> That should be enough for you to start with.
> 
> Sean 
> On 05/02/2013, at 4:39 AM, SaraFord  wrote:
> 
>>> Hi Everyone!
>>>  
>>> Wow, thanks for all the responses! I appreciate the warm welcome. I’ve read 
>>> all the comments, even though I'm replying to the middle of the thread. And 
>>> I have taken notes. I’ve also learned that there are also other areas I 
>>> need to investigate that I wouldn’t have known about if it wasn’t for this 
>>> thread.
>>>  
>>> For what it’s worth, my personal philosophy is that software is about 
>>> people. Sure, at the end of the day, the code must be written correctly, 
>>> but it is the experiences of the people who both use the code and write the 
>>> code that matter the most. So thanks again for sharing your experiences 
>>> with me. It is all about people.
>>>  
>>> One question I have for this forum is where might I find the best training 
>>> materials for learning Voice Over? As I mentioned previously, I’ve been 
>>> trained in the past on Window Eyes and JAWS. I’m hoping there are some 
>>> online courses or documentation out there so I can learn to use Voice Over 
>>> effectively. It doesn’t matter what application the training is for. I just 
>>> need to get used to the keyboard shortcuts and how Voice Over structures 
>>> its Text to Speech output.
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>> -sara
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Re: what is Springboard

[Scott Berry]

Oh yes indeed.  Have to check that one out.



On 2/5/13 18:24, Michael Babcock wrote:

Not a problem, I'm going to record a podcast in a little while, explaining to 
individuals why I think jailbreaking has its advantages. There is a couple of 
things that I'm sure some of you have thought about, however I can think of a 
couple of other things that I know would be very creative and might get 
everyone's blood flowing. All of the minds thinking together, what a scary 
thought.

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On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:



Thanks Michael.

On 2/5/13 13:05, Michael Babcock wrote:

 From what I understand, springboard is kind of like viewfinder on the mat. 
Springboard is what allows the icons for the apps to be generated, and is what 
lays out our apps on the iPhone. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, however 
this is the way that I understand it.

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On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:


What actually is the pupose of springboard?

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Re: Jailbreaking?

[Scott Berry]

Cdia is like the Itunes store and this is where you find all the apps 
after you have jail broken.  I suggest just looking around I have just 
been adding thing randomly as I think they might be something I need or 
could use.



On 2/5/13 19:54, Jessica Moss wrote:
Ok, I've thought about doing this, but just out of curiosity, where 
would you find other 3rd-party apps, and aside from the ones you just 
mentioned, what others would some of you recommend?

On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Emilio wrote:


Hello Rich and others,


Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have benefits.

Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking offers 
the user customization capabilities such as installing programs that 
are not available through the App Store.


Personally, I find that “Poof,” gives me the option to hide 
unnecessary stock apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my 
springboard. While hiding selected apps, the functionality thereof is 
not lost. For instance, if I choose to hide the “contacts” app or the 
“notes” app, I can still access these apps via spotlight.


“Folder close,” is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what the 
title suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have created, 
the folder automatically closes and is not left open, which is 
opposite to what the standard practice is without jailbreaking.



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Re: Jailbreaking?

[Richard Ring]

I have one final question. If you jail break, does this mean you can no longer 
purchase apps from the app store?

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On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:

> Cdia is like the Itunes store and this is where you find all the apps after 
> you have jail broken.  I suggest just looking around I have just been adding 
> thing randomly as I think they might be something I need or could use.
> 
> 
> On 2/5/13 19:54, Jessica Moss wrote:
>> Ok, I've thought about doing this, but just out of curiosity, where would 
>> you find other 3rd-party apps, and aside from the ones you just mentioned, 
>> what others would some of you recommend?
>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Emilio wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Rich and others,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have benefits.
>>> 
>>> Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking offers the 
>>> user customization capabilities such as installing programs that are not 
>>> available through the App Store.
>>> 
>>> Personally, I find that “Poof,” gives me the option to hide unnecessary 
>>> stock apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my springboard. While 
>>> hiding selected apps, the functionality thereof is not lost. For instance, 
>>> if I choose to hide the “contacts” app or the “notes” app, I can still 
>>> access these apps via spotlight.
>>> 
>>> “Folder close,” is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what the title 
>>> suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have created, the folder 
>>> automatically closes and is not left open, which is opposite to what the 
>>> standard practice is without jailbreaking.
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: Jailbreaking?

[Kliphton]

No, app store for apple is not effected.

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ring
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 6:30 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jailbreaking?

 

I have one final question. If you jail break, does this mean you can no
longer purchase apps from the app store?


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On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Scott Berry  wrote:





Cdia is like the Itunes store and this is where you find all the apps after
you have jail broken.  I suggest just looking around I have just been adding
thing randomly as I think they might be something I need or could use.


On 2/5/13 19:54, Jessica Moss wrote:



Ok, I've thought about doing this, but just out of curiosity, where would
you find other 3rd-party apps, and aside from the ones you just mentioned,
what others would some of you recommend?
On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Emilio wrote:




Hello Rich and others,


Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have benefits.

Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking offers the
user customization capabilities such as installing programs that are not
available through the App Store.

Personally, I find that "Poof," gives me the option to hide unnecessary
stock apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my springboard. While
hiding selected apps, the functionality thereof is not lost. For instance,
if I choose to hide the "contacts" app or the "notes" app, I can still
access these apps via spotlight.

"Folder close," is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what the title
suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have created, the folder
automatically closes and is not left open, which is opposite to what the
standard practice is without jailbreaking.


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Re: what is Springboard

[Krister Ekstrom]

I for my part would love to find a tweak to be able to send messages to groups 
and schedule messages for later sending etc. Do you know of such a thing?
/Krister

6 feb 2013 kl. 12:40 skrev Scott Berry :

> Oh yes indeed.  Have to check that one out.
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/5/13 18:24, Michael Babcock wrote:
>> Not a problem, I'm going to record a podcast in a little while, explaining 
>> to individuals why I think jailbreaking has its advantages. There is a 
>> couple of things that I'm sure some of you have thought about, however I can 
>> think of a couple of other things that I know would be very creative and 
>> might get everyone's blood flowing. All of the minds thinking together, what 
>> a scary thought.
>> 
>> http://empoweringtheblind.com
>> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks Michael.
>>> 
>>> On 2/5/13 13:05, Michael Babcock wrote:
 From what I understand, springboard is kind of like viewfinder on the mat. 
 Springboard is what allows the icons for the apps to be generated, and is 
 what lays out our apps on the iPhone. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, 
 however this is the way that I understand it.
 
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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Brandon Olivares]

Hi Donna,

There are a lot of things that I like about Dragon Dictate over the max 
dictation capabilities. Most of all, is that the dictation on the Mac is 
limited to only a minute or two, while with Dragon Dictate, you can dictate for 
as long as you need to, and there is no limit. With the Mac, you are pressed to 
think quickly of what you want to say, With Dragon Dictate, you can think for a 
minute or two about what you want to say first. There is no rush.

You can even do editing commands. You can complete parts of what user spoke, 
you can correct dictation errors, and you can even move around the document.

Also with Dragon Dictate, there are many more commands for opening applications 
opening new windows

On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Hi Brandon,
> 
> Thanks for posting this.  I've wondered about Dragon for Mac.  I have two 
> questions:
> 
> 1.  What do you like about using Dragon over the Mac's built-in dictation? 
> 
> 2.  Is it possible to export a user profile in Dragon 3 so it can be used on 
> multiple computers?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am loving 
>> it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many bad reviews 
>> online about this version. However, so far, it has been wonderful!
>> 
>> I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very well it 
>> seems.
>> 
>> I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been very 
>> accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
>> 
>> Brandon
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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Brandon Olivares]

Okay, my message sent before I wanted it to.

 what I'm trying to say, is that there are many more commands with Dragon 
Dictate to do things on your computer. There are even text macros to allow you 
to insert text when you speak commands. For instance I have a command where 
when I say “insert personal email address,”  it will insert my email address 
into the text

There is really no comparison between Dragon Dictate in dictation on the Mac. 
Dragon Dictate is much better for more complex dictation and much better 
control of your computer.

I'm not sure about exporting user profiles, though I think it is possible. But 
I think that it is against the license agreement to use it on multiple 
computers.

I hope this helps,
Brandon

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> Hi Brandon,
> 
> Thanks for posting this.  I've wondered about Dragon for Mac.  I have two 
> questions:
> 
> 1.  What do you like about using Dragon over the Mac's built-in dictation? 
> 
> 2.  Is it possible to export a user profile in Dragon 3 so it can be used on 
> multiple computers?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am loving 
>> it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many bad reviews 
>> online about this version. However, so far, it has been wonderful!
>> 
>> I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very well it 
>> seems.
>> 
>> I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been very 
>> accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
>> 
>> Brandon
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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Brandon Olivares]

I think that the version of the Mac App Store is only the express version. The 
version I have is Dragon Dictate three, which on Amazon is around $140, but 
full price is $199. The one of the Mac App Store is only around $45 or so.

Brandon

On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Chris H  wrote:

> Nice can this be gotten from the Mac app store?
> 
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> 
> On 06/02/2013 05:55, Brandon Olivares wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am loving 
>> it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many bad reviews 
>> online about this version. However, so far, it has been wonderful!
>> 
>> I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very well it 
>> seems.
>> 
>> I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been very 
>> accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
>> 
>> Brandon
>> 
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Re: VO reads things twice

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Nicholas,
could you please do me a favor and send this VO bug in Finder as a bug report 
to 
accessibil...@apple.com
I send them a bug report and they told me I'm the only one noticing and 
reporting this. So it might be good to tell them other users experience the 
same behaviour to make them fix it.
All the best
Jürgen

Am 06.02.2013 um 10:15 schrieb Nicholas Parsons :

> HI Gigi,
> 
> Yes, this happens to me too, a lot.
> 
> I use column browser view in Finder. One time I notice it happening a lot is 
> when , say, I have a folder called Downloads and inside that folder a file 
> called Document A. I'll interact with the file browser and VoiceOver will 
> announce I am on Downloads folder. I will move to the right with VO-Right 
> Arrow so that the focus is on Document A but VoiceOver will read Downloads 
> folder, Document A. I used to get confused by VoiceOver announcing Downloads 
> folder, thinking it hadn't moved properly and so I would VO-Right Arrow 
> again, which would have the unintended consequence of moving me into the 
> information/details column instead of the file name column. 
> 
> I also notice what you describe happening to me in Mail. When I move to a new 
> Mail message or conversation thread VoiceOver will often announce the 
> previous message as well, which means I have to often double check what 
> message I'm on because VoiceOver has told me two seemingly different things.
> 
> I'm just not sure whether this is a bug or feature of VoiceOver.
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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Brandon,

That makes a lot of sense.  I have it on my PC, so know it from the Windows 
side of things.  But it's usually easier for me to write than to dictate, so I 
only dictate short things, and for that, the dictation on the Mac has been 
sufficient.  But I've always liked the way you can use it to control the 
computer.  I tried to do that with speakable items on the Mac, but have had 
mixed success.  Maybe I'll check dragon out and see what I think.
Cheers,
Donna
On Feb 6, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
> There are a lot of things that I like about Dragon Dictate over the max 
> dictation capabilities. Most of all, is that the dictation on the Mac is 
> limited to only a minute or two, while with Dragon Dictate, you can dictate 
> for as long as you need to, and there is no limit. With the Mac, you are 
> pressed to think quickly of what you want to say, With Dragon Dictate, you 
> can think for a minute or two about what you want to say first. There is no 
> rush.
> 
> You can even do editing commands. You can complete parts of what user spoke, 
> you can correct dictation errors, and you can even move around the document.
> 
> Also with Dragon Dictate, there are many more commands for opening 
> applications opening new windows
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brandon,
>> 
>> Thanks for posting this.  I've wondered about Dragon for Mac.  I have two 
>> questions:
>> 
>> 1.  What do you like about using Dragon over the Mac's built-in dictation? 
>> 
>> 2.  Is it possible to export a user profile in Dragon 3 so it can be used on 
>> multiple computers?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am loving 
>>> it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many bad 
>>> reviews online about this version. However, so far, it has been wonderful!
>>> 
>>> I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very well it 
>>> seems.
>>> 
>>> I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been very 
>>> accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
>>> 
>>> Brandon
>>> 
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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Nektarios Mallas]

Hello there. How is the training process? Do you have to read a specific block 
of text? If yes, how did you do that? 
Also, if you happen to know, is this available in other languages? 
The built in dictation on the Mac is unfortunately only available in English. 

Regards.
Nektarios.

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> Hi Donna,
> 
> There are a lot of things that I like about Dragon Dictate over the max 
> dictation capabilities. Most of all, is that the dictation on the Mac is 
> limited to only a minute or two, while with Dragon Dictate, you can dictate 
> for as long as you need to, and there is no limit. With the Mac, you are 
> pressed to think quickly of what you want to say, With Dragon Dictate, you 
> can think for a minute or two about what you want to say first. There is no 
> rush.
> 
> You can even do editing commands. You can complete parts of what user spoke, 
> you can correct dictation errors, and you can even move around the document.
> 
> Also with Dragon Dictate, there are many more commands for opening 
> applications opening new windows
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brandon,
>> 
>> Thanks for posting this.  I've wondered about Dragon for Mac.  I have two 
>> questions:
>> 
>> 1.  What do you like about using Dragon over the Mac's built-in dictation? 
>> 
>> 2.  Is it possible to export a user profile in Dragon 3 so it can be used on 
>> multiple computers?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am loving 
>>> it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many bad 
>>> reviews online about this version. However, so far, it has been wonderful!
>>> 
>>> I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very well it 
>>> seems.
>>> 
>>> I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been very 
>>> accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
>>> 
>>> Brandon
>>> 
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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Donna Goodin]

It does help, Brandon, thanks.  You're inspiring me to spend more time with it 
on my PC, and also to take a look at the version for Mac.
Cheers,
Donna
On Feb 6, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> Okay, my message sent before I wanted it to.
> 
> what I'm trying to say, is that there are many more commands with Dragon 
> Dictate to do things on your computer. There are even text macros to allow 
> you to insert text when you speak commands. For instance I have a command 
> where when I say “insert personal email address,”  it will insert my email 
> address into the text
> 
> There is really no comparison between Dragon Dictate in dictation on the Mac. 
> Dragon Dictate is much better for more complex dictation and much better 
> control of your computer.
> 
> I'm not sure about exporting user profiles, though I think it is possible. 
> But I think that it is against the license agreement to use it on multiple 
> computers.
> 
> I hope this helps,
> Brandon
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brandon,
>> 
>> Thanks for posting this.  I've wondered about Dragon for Mac.  I have two 
>> questions:
>> 
>> 1.  What do you like about using Dragon over the Mac's built-in dictation? 
>> 
>> 2.  Is it possible to export a user profile in Dragon 3 so it can be used on 
>> multiple computers?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am loving 
>>> it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many bad 
>>> reviews online about this version. However, so far, it has been wonderful!
>>> 
>>> I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very well it 
>>> seems.
>>> 
>>> I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been very 
>>> accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
>>> 
>>> Brandon
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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Brandon Olivares]

Hi Donna,

You should definitely check it out. I only had to say, for instance, the words 
"reply to message" to reply to this message. It is so easy!

I'm also very good at typing, but I do make a lot of typos. I wanted to get 
Dragon Dictate to make things easier. I believe that over time, it will get 
much better at dictating what I'm saying, once it is trained enough. Already it 
is getting very good!

Brandon

P.S.: This message was written with Dragon Dictate.

On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:51 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Hi Brandon,
> 
> That makes a lot of sense.  I have it on my PC, so know it from the Windows 
> side of things.  But it's usually easier for me to write than to dictate, so 
> I only dictate short things, and for that, the dictation on the Mac has been 
> sufficient.  But I've always liked the way you can use it to control the 
> computer.  I tried to do that with speakable items on the Mac, but have had 
> mixed success.  Maybe I'll check dragon out and see what I think.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> There are a lot of things that I like about Dragon Dictate over the max 
>> dictation capabilities. Most of all, is that the dictation on the Mac is 
>> limited to only a minute or two, while with Dragon Dictate, you can dictate 
>> for as long as you need to, and there is no limit. With the Mac, you are 
>> pressed to think quickly of what you want to say, With Dragon Dictate, you 
>> can think for a minute or two about what you want to say first. There is no 
>> rush.
>> 
>> You can even do editing commands. You can complete parts of what user spoke, 
>> you can correct dictation errors, and you can even move around the document.
>> 
>> Also with Dragon Dictate, there are many more commands for opening 
>> applications opening new windows
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Brandon,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for posting this.  I've wondered about Dragon for Mac.  I have two 
>>> questions:
>>> 
>>> 1.  What do you like about using Dragon over the Mac's built-in dictation? 
>>> 
>>> 2.  Is it possible to export a user profile in Dragon 3 so it can be used 
>>> on multiple computers?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all,
 
 I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am loving 
 it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many bad 
 reviews online about this version. However, so far, it has been wonderful!
 
 I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very well 
 it seems.
 
 I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been very 
 accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
 
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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Brandon,

When I purchased my copy for Windows, they sent me a CD.  Were you able to 
purchase it from Amazon and download it directly to your Mac?
Cheers,
Donna
On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
> You should definitely check it out. I only had to say, for instance, the 
> words "reply to message" to reply to this message. It is so easy!
> 
> I'm also very good at typing, but I do make a lot of typos. I wanted to get 
> Dragon Dictate to make things easier. I believe that over time, it will get 
> much better at dictating what I'm saying, once it is trained enough. Already 
> it is getting very good!
> 
> Brandon
> 
> P.S.: This message was written with Dragon Dictate.
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:51 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brandon,
>> 
>> That makes a lot of sense.  I have it on my PC, so know it from the Windows 
>> side of things.  But it's usually easier for me to write than to dictate, so 
>> I only dictate short things, and for that, the dictation on the Mac has been 
>> sufficient.  But I've always liked the way you can use it to control the 
>> computer.  I tried to do that with speakable items on the Mac, but have had 
>> mixed success.  Maybe I'll check dragon out and see what I think.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> There are a lot of things that I like about Dragon Dictate over the max 
>>> dictation capabilities. Most of all, is that the dictation on the Mac is 
>>> limited to only a minute or two, while with Dragon Dictate, you can dictate 
>>> for as long as you need to, and there is no limit. With the Mac, you are 
>>> pressed to think quickly of what you want to say, With Dragon Dictate, you 
>>> can think for a minute or two about what you want to say first. There is no 
>>> rush.
>>> 
>>> You can even do editing commands. You can complete parts of what user 
>>> spoke, you can correct dictation errors, and you can even move around the 
>>> document.
>>> 
>>> Also with Dragon Dictate, there are many more commands for opening 
>>> applications opening new windows
>>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Brandon,
 
 Thanks for posting this.  I've wondered about Dragon for Mac.  I have two 
 questions:
 
 1.  What do you like about using Dragon over the Mac's built-in dictation? 
 
 2.  Is it possible to export a user profile in Dragon 3 so it can be used 
 on multiple computers?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Brandon Olivares  
 wrote:
 
> Hello all,
> 
> I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am 
> loving it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many 
> bad reviews online about this version. However, so far, it has been 
> wonderful!
> 
> I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very well 
> it seems.
> 
> I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been very 
> accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
> 
> Brandon
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Re: what is Springboard

[Michael Babcock]

Good morning;
I never turn my device off, so I don't know.
Secondly, it's not an application, if you double tap the sections section in 
studio, the second tab from the bottom left, then one of the options is ring 
tones, you download ring tones like you do apps, but they install in the 
settings.
Hope this helps
Michael

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On Feb 5, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Krysti  wrote:

> Michael I have two questions 
> 1 do you find it takes like half a hour to turn your device on after you 
> shout it off
> 
> 2 what's the name of the app to get free ringtones 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Krysti 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2013-02-05, at 9:24 PM, Michael Babcock  
> wrote:
> 
>> Not a problem, I'm going to record a podcast in a little while, explaining 
>> to individuals why I think jailbreaking has its advantages. There is a 
>> couple of things that I'm sure some of you have thought about, however I can 
>> think of a couple of other things that I know would be very creative and 
>> might get everyone's blood flowing. All of the minds thinking together, what 
>> a scary thought.
>> 
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>> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks Michael.
>>> 
>>> On 2/5/13 13:05, Michael Babcock wrote:
 From what I understand, springboard is kind of like viewfinder on the mat. 
 Springboard is what allows the icons for the apps to be generated, and is 
 what lays out our apps on the iPhone. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, 
 however this is the way that I understand it.
 
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Re: placing things on the doc

[Jed Barton]

Sweet deal, that's awesome.
How do you get to the area where you place files and folders on the doc?
On Feb 5, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Just to add to this, you can shuffle things around once they are on your 
> dock. On any item, press cmd-option-left to move it one slot left, or 
> cmd-option-right to move it right. The dock has an area for files and 
> folders, and another for applications, and you cannot mix these two types of 
> items together. Also, the Finder icon cannot be moved, at least not that I've 
> found. Aside from these small items, though, you can move anything anywhere. 
> I have my dock sorted alphabetically, but you could sort by usage, or 
> whatever you want.
> On Feb 5, 2013, at 10:14 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Jed,
>> 
>> To place a file or application in the dock, highlight it in Finder,
>> then press Command-Shift-T.  this is a standard Mac OS X keyboard
>> shortcut.
>> 
>> HTH. Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Feb 5, 5:08 pm, Jed Barton  wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>> 
>>> Say i have a program that i use a lot, can i put it on the doc so i can 
>>> launch it quicker?  This would be really helpful.
>>> Thanks guys for all your help, sincerely appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jed
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Re: what is Springboard

[Erik Heil]

Hello,
Sprinboard is simply the background daemon that is responsible for window
manageent on your IOS device. i.e. The same as metacity or Kwin on either
Gnome or KDE respectively. i.e. they are default window managers. A note
for potential jailbrakers. If and when you get complete access to the IOS
filesystem, do not delete the springboard binary, or you will literally
have a bricked device. This is because if the window manager is not
running, you will have no way to access the gui. If, on the other hand, you
have sshd running and configured, you then have another chance to make
things right. So, just a little advice to people on this list. My skype
name is eheil01 in case any of you have any questions, i"ll do whetever I
can to help anyone on this list. Everyone take care,
--Erik

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Michael Babcock  wrote:

> Good morning;
> I never turn my device off, so I don't know.
> Secondly, it's not an application, if you double tap the sections section
> in studio, the second tab from the bottom left, then one of the options is
> ring tones, you download ring tones like you do apps, but they install in
> the settings.
> Hope this helps
> Michael
>
> http://empoweringtheblind.com
> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Krysti  wrote:
>
> > Michael I have two questions
> > 1 do you find it takes like half a hour to turn your device on after you
> shout it off
> >
> > 2 what's the name of the app to get free ringtones
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Krysti
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 2013-02-05, at 9:24 PM, Michael Babcock 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Not a problem, I'm going to record a podcast in a little while,
> explaining to individuals why I think jailbreaking has its advantages.
> There is a couple of things that I'm sure some of you have thought about,
> however I can think of a couple of other things that I know would be very
> creative and might get everyone's blood flowing. All of the minds thinking
> together, what a scary thought.
> >>
> >> http://empoweringtheblind.com
> >> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Michael.
> >>>
> >>> On 2/5/13 13:05, Michael Babcock wrote:
>  From what I understand, springboard is kind of like viewfinder on the
> mat. Springboard is what allows the icons for the apps to be generated, and
> is what lays out our apps on the iPhone. Someone can correct me if I'm
> wrong, however this is the way that I understand it.
> 
>  http://empoweringtheblind.com
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> 
> 
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Question about Fusion

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

So, here is my question.  In Fusion, I plan to be using my vm in full screen 
mode as I do have some usable vision, so I want that ability.  So, how do I 
switch between running apps in my vm windows environment, vs. switching 
between apps along side in the mac?  If I do command+tab, won't Windows see 
that as me hitting Windows+tab?  I say windows+tab as the alt and windows 
are reversed.  I know that can be remapped, but I'd personally rather not. 
I kind of like the reversed mapping, honestly.  Bottom line is, how do I 
specify that I want to switch between Fusion, vs. say, YoruFukurou, or if I 
want to switch say between, Outlook Distress vs. Internet Exploder.  Sorry, 
couldn't resist the play on words.


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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Brandon Olivares]

Hi Donna,

They haven't on Amazon, but you must purchase the actual CD. You cannot 
download it. Unfortunately, the digital download goes for the full price of 
$199. I got around it by finding coupon for the UK version of their website for 
30% off, which puts it around $145. The coupon is DICTATE30%. to get to their 
UK site, you have to go to http://shop.nuance.co.uk. The coupon does not seem 
to work on the US site, so this is why I had to go this way. If you use PayPal 
to pay, it should support the foreign currency.

The coupon seems to go until March 30.

I hope this helps,
Brandon

On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Hi Brandon,
> 
> When I purchased my copy for Windows, they sent me a CD.  Were you able to 
> purchase it from Amazon and download it directly to your Mac?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> You should definitely check it out. I only had to say, for instance, the 
>> words "reply to message" to reply to this message. It is so easy!
>> 
>> I'm also very good at typing, but I do make a lot of typos. I wanted to get 
>> Dragon Dictate to make things easier. I believe that over time, it will get 
>> much better at dictating what I'm saying, once it is trained enough. Already 
>> it is getting very good!
>> 
>> Brandon
>> 
>> P.S.: This message was written with Dragon Dictate.
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:51 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Brandon,
>>> 
>>> That makes a lot of sense.  I have it on my PC, so know it from the Windows 
>>> side of things.  But it's usually easier for me to write than to dictate, 
>>> so I only dictate short things, and for that, the dictation on the Mac has 
>>> been sufficient.  But I've always liked the way you can use it to control 
>>> the computer.  I tried to do that with speakable items on the Mac, but have 
>>> had mixed success.  Maybe I'll check dragon out and see what I think.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Brandon Olivares  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Donna,
 
 There are a lot of things that I like about Dragon Dictate over the max 
 dictation capabilities. Most of all, is that the dictation on the Mac is 
 limited to only a minute or two, while with Dragon Dictate, you can 
 dictate for as long as you need to, and there is no limit. With the Mac, 
 you are pressed to think quickly of what you want to say, With Dragon 
 Dictate, you can think for a minute or two about what you want to say 
 first. There is no rush.
 
 You can even do editing commands. You can complete parts of what user 
 spoke, you can correct dictation errors, and you can even move around the 
 document.
 
 Also with Dragon Dictate, there are many more commands for opening 
 applications opening new windows
 
 On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
> Hi Brandon,
> 
> Thanks for posting this.  I've wondered about Dragon for Mac.  I have two 
> questions:
> 
> 1.  What do you like about using Dragon over the Mac's built-in 
> dictation? 
> 
> 2.  Is it possible to export a user profile in Dragon 3 so it can be used 
> on multiple computers?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am 
>> loving it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many 
>> bad reviews online about this version. However, so far, it has been 
>> wonderful!
>> 
>> I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very well 
>> it seems.
>> 
>> I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been 
>> very accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
>> 
>> Brandon
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Warning about I O S Jailbreak

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I don't know if something on my end just went screw, but I tried installing 
some of the Siri addons which you can find in Cidia under the sections tab. 
Man, my phone was working fine until I installed some of them.  After I did, 
my phone, even when not using Siri froze almost every 5 minutes literally 
speaking, I kid you not!  I finally had to restore the thing and unjailbreak 
it.  I still want to jailbreak, but I can't be with a phone that freezes 
every few seconds as I do use my device for more than just apps.  After all, 
it is a... gasp... phone... LOL!


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Re: placing things on the doc

[Esther]

Hi Jed,

I navigate through the various sections of the dock, after navigating
there with Control-F3 or VO-D, with Fn+Down arrow, which cycles me
through the apps, files and folders, and trash.  Fn+Up arrow cycles in
the opposite direction.  Fn+Right arrow takes me directly to the
trash, and Fn+left arrow takes me to Finder.

In order to be viewable by VoiceOver, folders in your dock have to be
set to view content as "List" and display as "Folder".  The default is
to display as "Stack" and view as either "Fan" or "Automatic".  In
this mode, VoiceOver doesn't display the contents in a format you can
browse when you try to view them.  Use your contextual menu (VO-Shift-
M) to set up these options one at a time.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther,


On Feb 6, 4:23 am, Jed Barton  wrote:
> Sweet deal, that's awesome.
> How do you get to the area where you place files and folders on the doc?
> On Feb 5, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Just to add to this, you can shuffle things around once they are on your 
> > dock. On any item, press cmd-option-left to move it one slot left, or 
> > cmd-option-right to move it right. The dock has an area for files and 
> > folders, and another for applications, and you cannot mix these two types 
> > of items together. Also, the Finder icon cannot be moved, at least not that 
> > I've found. Aside from these small items, though, you can move anything 
> > anywhere. I have my dock sorted alphabetically, but you could sort by 
> > usage, or whatever you want.
> > On Feb 5, 2013, at 10:14 PM, Esther  wrote:
>
> >> Hello Jed,
>
> >> To place a file or application in the dock, highlight it in Finder,
> >> then press Command-Shift-T.  this is a standard Mac OS X keyboard
> >> shortcut.
>
> >> HTH. Cheers,
>
> >> Esther
>
> >> On Feb 5, 5:08 pm, Jed Barton  wrote:
> >>> Hey guys,
>
> >>> Say i have a program that i use a lot, can i put it on the doc so i can 
> >>> launch it quicker?  This would be really helpful.
> >>> Thanks guys for all your help, sincerely appreciated.
>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Jed
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Re: Warning about I O S Jailbreak

[Michael Babcock]

Chris;
In my opinion this is what makes jailbreaking so fun, you can break something 
just by installing an application, that you didn't expect to break anything. 
For example, when you are working with android, you can install an application 
that may cause your device to be useless. Therefore, in my opinion it's a lot 
nicer to be able to take a risk, then to be locked down by Apple's requirements 
in there App Store.
Michael PS, great job being able to fix it, that's why we always suggest making 
backups before you perform the jailbreak. That way, you can restore to your 
last known good configuration, just something to keep in the back of your mind.

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wrote:

> I don't know if something on my end just went screw, but I tried installing 
> some of the Siri addons which you can find in Cidia under the sections tab. 
> Man, my phone was working fine until I installed some of them.  After I did, 
> my phone, even when not using Siri froze almost every 5 minutes literally 
> speaking, I kid you not!  I finally had to restore the thing and unjailbreak 
> it.  I still want to jailbreak, but I can't be with a phone that freezes 
> every few seconds as I do use my device for more than just apps.  After all, 
> it is a... gasp... phone... LOL!
> 
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Re: How do I reliably right-click links in Safari using VoiceOver?

[Esther]

Hello Jürgen, Darrell, and Others,

I'll just add the comment that if you ever have started playing an mp3
file in your browser, you can press command-L to highlight the
location in the browser followed by Option-enter to force this to
download to your default downloads location instead of continuing to
play..

This is the regular Mac shortcut known as Option-Click to force
downloads of highlighted items.  VoiceOver automatically highlights
the link when you navigate there, so holding down the Option key and
then pressing return (or "enter" as many like to say) automatically
forces the download.

When you navigate to the address bar with Command-L, the link address
is automatically highlighted.  So this is what Mike's sequence of
commands is doing: it's placing the highlighted link address in the
address bar so he can press Option-Enter to force the download.

I usually move items from my downloads folder.  If I want to download
a number of items to another folder, I may bring up the Safari
preferences menu with Command-comma, and temporarily change the
default download location.

HTH. Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 5, 11:24 am, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> thanks so much. That's a way to download an mp3 file I looked so long for.
> Thanks again.
> Jürgen
> Am 05.02.2013 um 21:01 schrieb Michael Babcock :
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Here are the steps Iteri, and it may be the long, drawnout way.
> > I find the link, press control, option, shift, you, immediately after that, 
> > I listen to voiceover states "http://"; and I press control, option, shift, 
> > see.
> > I then press command L, and command, V. Holding the option key down, I 
> > press return, this then causes the MP3 file to download. This is the most 
> > reliable way I have found to download MP3 files.
> > Hope this helps
>
> >http://empoweringtheblind.com
> > Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>
> > On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Darrell Shandrow  
> > wrote:
>
> >> Hello Everyone,
>
> >> Can anyone tell me how I can reliably right-click links in Safari to take 
> >> actions on them, such as download the associated MP3 file?
>
> >> Here's what I am trying to do:
>
> >> 1. Visithttp://htb2.com/tutorials/mac/
> >> 2. Find a MP3 file link on that page.
> >> 3. Press VO+Shift+M.
> >> 4. Sometimes it works and I see 12 items on that menu. Other times it 
> >> doesn't and I only see five items.
>
> >> Any recommendations for doing this reliably?
>
> >> Thanks,
>
> >> Darrell

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Re: Warning about I O S Jailbreak

[Alex Hall]

I did some searching and found no problems like yours online, so you may have 
just gotten a bad download or something (I don't know what sort of verification 
Cydia does to downloaded files to check integrity). What tweak(s) did you try 
though? I'm liking the look of My Assistant, but if it caused all those 
problems...
On Feb 6, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:

> I don't know if something on my end just went screw, but I tried installing 
> some of the Siri addons which you can find in Cidia under the sections tab. 
> Man, my phone was working fine until I installed some of them.  After I did, 
> my phone, even when not using Siri froze almost every 5 minutes literally 
> speaking, I kid you not!  I finally had to restore the thing and unjailbreak 
> it.  I still want to jailbreak, but I can't be with a phone that freezes 
> every few seconds as I do use my device for more than just apps.  After all, 
> it is a... gasp... phone... LOL!
> 
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Re: Jailbreaking?

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, The app Springtomize is very good. It allowed me to get rid of about 
15 separate jailbreak apps and tweaks because of how much it does. The 
app is $3.00, but is well worth it. It allows me to customize how many 
rows of icons and how many icons per row to have on the home screen. It 
allows me to customize how many icons on the dock and the app switcher. 
It allows me to have more than 12 or 16 apps in folders. It allows me to 
customize the slide to unlock text on the lock screen. I have it saying, 
Hello Raul. It allows me to show seconds on the clock if I want. That's 
just a few of the things it does. That tweak, along with several others 
from the following web site are highly recommended.


http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/02/best-jailbreak-apps-tweaks-iphone-2013.html


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On 2/5/2013 10:59 AM, Emilio wrote:

Hello Rich and others,


Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have benefits.

Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking offers
the user customization capabilities such as installing programs that are
not available through the App Store.

Personally, I find that “Poof,” gives me the option to hide unnecessary
stock apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my springboard. While
hiding selected apps, the functionality thereof is not lost. For
instance, if I choose to hide the “contacts” app or the “notes” app, I
can still access these apps via spotlight.

“Folder close,” is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what the
title suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have created, the
folder automatically closes and is not left open, which is opposite to
what the standard practice is without jailbreaking.


Hope this has been helpful.

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Re: Warning about I O S Jailbreak

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, that happened to one of the 3 iPhones I jailbroke. The reason is 
because not all Cydia apps and tweaks are iOS 6 compatible yet. You have 
to be very careful in reading the app description to see which ones. 
Once I found that all I had to do was RTFM a little, things went fine. 
So, you can jailbreak, just don't go adding everything under the sun 
just because you can. I think that SMS GV Extension is one such app 
which is not yet iOS 6 ready and can cause issues.


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On 2/6/2013 9:15 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I don't know if something on my end just went screw, but I tried
installing some of the Siri addons which you can find in Cidia under the
sections tab. Man, my phone was working fine until I installed some of
them.  After I did, my phone, even when not using Siri froze almost
every 5 minutes literally speaking, I kid you not!  I finally had to
restore the thing and unjailbreak it.  I still want to jailbreak, but I
can't be with a phone that freezes every few seconds as I do use my
device for more than just apps.  After all, it is a... gasp... phone...
LOL!

Chris.


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Re: Warning about I O S Jailbreak

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, the problem is that some Cydia apps are not iOS 6 ready.

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On 2/6/2013 9:52 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

I did some searching and found no problems like yours online, so you may have 
just gotten a bad download or something (I don't know what sort of verification 
Cydia does to downloaded files to check integrity). What tweak(s) did you try 
though? I'm liking the look of My Assistant, but if it caused all those 
problems...
On Feb 6, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


I don't know if something on my end just went screw, but I tried installing 
some of the Siri addons which you can find in Cidia under the sections tab. 
Man, my phone was working fine until I installed some of them.  After I did, my 
phone, even when not using Siri froze almost every 5 minutes literally 
speaking, I kid you not!  I finally had to restore the thing and unjailbreak 
it.  I still want to jailbreak, but I can't be with a phone that freezes every 
few seconds as I do use my device for more than just apps.  After all, it is 
a... gasp... phone... LOL!

Chris.
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Re: Warning about I O S Jailbreak

[Krister Ekstrom]

There was one tweak i wanted but it wouldn't work on my system, according to 
the description, it was called Folder enhancer and allowed you to make sub 
folders and have many icons in a folder, not only 12. I hope this one soon 
becomes 6.1 compatible.
/Krister

6 feb 2013 kl. 17:07 skrev "Raul A. Gallegos" :

> Hi, that happened to one of the 3 iPhones I jailbroke. The reason is because 
> not all Cydia apps and tweaks are iOS 6 compatible yet. You have to be very 
> careful in reading the app description to see which ones. Once I found that 
> all I had to do was RTFM a little, things went fine. So, you can jailbreak, 
> just don't go adding everything under the sun just because you can. I think 
> that SMS GV Extension is one such app which is not yet iOS 6 ready and can 
> cause issues.
> 
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> On 2/6/2013 9:15 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> I don't know if something on my end just went screw, but I tried
>> installing some of the Siri addons which you can find in Cidia under the
>> sections tab. Man, my phone was working fine until I installed some of
>> them.  After I did, my phone, even when not using Siri froze almost
>> every 5 minutes literally speaking, I kid you not!  I finally had to
>> restore the thing and unjailbreak it.  I still want to jailbreak, but I
>> can't be with a phone that freezes every few seconds as I do use my
>> device for more than just apps.  After all, it is a... gasp... phone...
>> LOL!
>> 
>> Chris.
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has anyone used Blackboard with Voiceover

[Scott Berry]

just curious has nayone use Voiceover with Blackboard and if so how well 
does it work.


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Re: has anyone used Blackboard with Voiceover

[Michael Babcock]

Two years ago, blackboard work just fine on iOS. Now that I am in University of 
Phoenix student, they don't use blackboard, but their own proprietary system 
which works a little bit okay. However, blackboard works just fine last I knew.

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Re: has anyone used Blackboard with Voiceover

[Scott Berry]

Actually I was going to do the University of Phoenix but I found a 
smaller university I like much better and their disability group is 
right on top of Blackboard if it doesn't work and any of ther other 
apps.  The University is called Walden and it's out of the twin cities.




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Two years ago, blackboard work just fine on iOS. Now that I am in University of 
Phoenix student, they don't use blackboard, but their own proprietary system 
which works a little bit okay. However, blackboard works just fine last I knew.

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just curious has nayone use Voiceover with Blackboard and if so how well does 
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Re: Jailbreaking?

[Scott Berry]

Does anyone know where I could look at a nice app list for Ipads?  I 
really want to put Siri on but like Spire hasn't been updated to IOS 6.1 
yet.




On 2/6/13 9:05, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hi, The app Springtomize is very good. It allowed me to get rid of 
about 15 separate jailbreak apps and tweaks because of how much it 
does. The app is $3.00, but is well worth it. It allows me to 
customize how many rows of icons and how many icons per row to have on 
the home screen. It allows me to customize how many icons on the dock 
and the app switcher. It allows me to have more than 12 or 16 apps in 
folders. It allows me to customize the slide to unlock text on the 
lock screen. I have it saying, Hello Raul. It allows me to show 
seconds on the clock if I want. That's just a few of the things it 
does. That tweak, along with several others from the following web 
site are highly recommended.


http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/02/best-jailbreak-apps-tweaks-iphone-2013.html 




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On 2/5/2013 10:59 AM, Emilio wrote:

Hello Rich and others,


Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have 
benefits.


Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking offers
the user customization capabilities such as installing programs that are
not available through the App Store.

Personally, I find that “Poof,” gives me the option to hide unnecessary
stock apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my springboard. While
hiding selected apps, the functionality thereof is not lost. For
instance, if I choose to hide the “contacts” app or the “notes” app, I
can still access these apps via spotlight.

“Folder close,” is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what the
title suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have created, the
folder automatically closes and is not left open, which is opposite to
what the standard practice is without jailbreaking.


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Re: what is Springboard

[Scott Berry]

Okay got ya Erik.  Thanks much.



On 2/6/13 8:05, Erik Heil wrote:

Hello,
Sprinboard is simply the background daemon that is responsible for 
window manageent on your IOS device. i.e. The same as metacity or Kwin 
on either Gnome or KDE respectively. i.e. they are default window 
managers. A note for potential jailbrakers. If and when you get 
complete access to the IOS filesystem, do not delete the springboard 
binary, or you will literally have a bricked device. This is because 
if the window manager is not running, you will have no way to 
access the gui. If, on the other hand, you have sshd running and 
configured, you then have another chance to make things right. So, 
just a little advice to people on this list. My skype name is eheil01 
in case any of you have any questions, i"ll do whetever I can to help 
anyone on this list. Everyone take care,

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On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Michael Babcock 
mailto:michael.babcoc...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Good morning;
I never turn my device off, so I don't know.
Secondly, it's not an application, if you double tap the sections
section in studio, the second tab from the bottom left, then one
of the options is ring tones, you download ring tones like you do
apps, but they install in the settings.
Hope this helps
Michael

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On Feb 5, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Krysti mailto:happypuppy...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> Michael I have two questions
> 1 do you find it takes like half a hour to turn your device on
after you shout it off
>
> 2 what's the name of the app to get free ringtones
>
> Thanks,
>
> Krysti
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2013-02-05, at 9:24 PM, Michael Babcock
mailto:michael.babcoc...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
>
>> Not a problem, I'm going to record a podcast in a little while,
explaining to individuals why I think jailbreaking has its
advantages. There is a couple of things that I'm sure some of you
have thought about, however I can think of a couple of other
things that I know would be very creative and might get everyone's
blood flowing. All of the minds thinking together, what a scary
thought.
>>
>> http://empoweringtheblind.com
>> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:18 PM, Scott Berry mailto:sb356...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Michael.
>>>
>>> On 2/5/13 13:05, Michael Babcock wrote:
 From what I understand, springboard is kind of like
viewfinder on the mat. Springboard is what allows the icons for
the apps to be generated, and is what lays out our apps on the
iPhone. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, however this is the
way that I understand it.

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ventral on themac

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

Has anyone been successful at running ventriloon the mac?
It looks completely unaccessible.  Any ideas?

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mail cutting off messages

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

A bit of a concern, and not sure what it is.  When i go tony mail window, it'll 
say something like mail, 4 new items,but yet there only seems to be 3.  In 
other words, it looks like it's not showing an item.  Any ideas?
I just wanna be sure i'm not missing messages.

Thanks,
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User account settings & security

[Traci]

Morning all,

I have some questions about the above subject.

Is there a way for 2 users to share some settings?  For example, I'd like my 
voiceover settings to be the same for 2 different users, or my key remap 
settings to be the same.

Also, what are your thoughts & recommendations on using a second account for 
traveling?  For extra security?  Has anyone created another account for when 
they are on the road or in hotels?  I'm just curious.

I've been playing around more with accounts, keychains, and the like.

Any input is appreciated.

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Re: mail cutting off messages

[Chris Bruinenberg]

Thee is a conversation I bet. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> A bit of a concern, and not sure what it is.  When i go tony mail window, 
> it'll say something like mail, 4 new items,but yet there only seems to be 3.  
> In other words, it looks like it's not showing an item.  Any ideas?
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switching voice on voiceover

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,
I opened up the VoiceOver Utility, how do i change the voice I just wanna play 
with the different options.

Thanks,
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Re: User account settings & security

[Chris Blouch]

Security is a spectrum. What kinds of bad things are you trying to 
avoid? For example, any Mac can easily be broken into by booting off an 
OSX CD and resetting the root password. Not so easy if you do the drive 
encryption. How would multiple accounts help? I'd just set it up so you 
have to put in a password when the machine wakes up and after a certain 
amount of idle time if you don't want others to get in when you leave 
your laptop unattended, not that you should really do that either.


CB

On 2/6/13 12:01 PM, Traci wrote:

Morning all,

I have some questions about the above subject.

Is there a way for 2 users to share some settings?  For example, I'd 
like my voiceover settings to be the same for 2 different users, or my 
key remap settings to be the same.


Also, what are your thoughts & recommendations on using a second 
account for traveling?  For extra security?  Has anyone created 
another account for when they are on the road or in hotels?  I'm just 
curious.


I've been playing around more with accounts, keychains, and the like.

Any input is appreciated.

Traci
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Re: ventral on themac

[John Panarese]

It is actually quite accessible.  I use it all of the time a couple of 
nights a week.


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> 
> Has anyone been successful at running ventriloon the mac?
> It looks completely unaccessible.  Any ideas?
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Re: ventral on themac

[Buddy Brannan]

Yeah, Ventrilo on the Mac works really well. The only possible gotcha would be 
setting your push to talk (or release to listen, in some cases, I guess) hot 
key. For this you need a physical mouse, you have to route your mouse cursor to 
the OK button, turn off tracking, move back to the field for the PTT hot key, 
press something, then click the mouse. FN works pretty well for a PTT key, IMO. 
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>It is actually quite accessible.  I use it all of the time a couple of 
> nights a week.
> 
> 
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> On Feb 6, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> Has anyone been successful at running ventriloon the mac?
>> It looks completely unaccessible.  Any ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jed
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Re: switching voice on voiceover

[Alex Hall]

Go to the vo utility and select speech from the table, then the voices tab. 
Move to the default voice popup button and hit space on it to open up the mnu 
of options. To get more voices, press space on the last item, "customize", then 
use the checkboxes in the table that appears to select the voices you want to 
download. Once they are installed, which may take a while depending on how many 
you wanted, go back to the vo utility and choose the voice you want. You can 
also quickly move through the available voices anywhere in OS10 by holding down 
the vo and command keys, then hitting left/right arrows to get to "voice", then 
up/down to choose one. There are other speech attributes in there that you can 
quickly change. Simply release the modifier keys when you are done, no need to 
press enter or anything since no dialog ever came up.
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> I opened up the VoiceOver Utility, how do i change the voice I just wanna 
> play with the different options.
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> Thanks,
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iTunes issue.

[Jessica Moss]

I've been having this weird issue that started I'm not sure when, with Itunes 
stripping my files out of their original folders on my harddrive when I load 
them, then either putting them into a separate folder of their own somewhere 
else on the drive, or, if the album is by various artists, it breaks it all up 
according to artist name, and puts them all in a ton of folders all over my 
drive, so that I have a ton of folders with only 1 or 2 songs in it that I have 
to attempt to put back in order, if I even have the energy to do that anymore 
depending on how big the complation is.
  Does anyone know how to fix all this, or if it's even fixable?  I have no 
idea how this happened, and it's driving me nuts, especially considering the 
fact that at times I've had to rerip several albums for Hannah to listen to, 
sense they don't ever stay where I put them, and I eventually delete them out 
of my library, sense I don't want to listen to Sesame STreet on a daily basis, 
and don't want to constantly leave it in my library and clutter it up.  So at 
this point, any help someone could give me would really be appreciated.

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Re: Question about Fusion

[Chris Bruinenberg]

Hi Chris
To interact with the vm you press control+command f.
This is a command built in to vmware fusion.
THen when you press option tab, it will be the equivalent  of alt tab.
You can change this but by default, the option key is your alt key, the command 
key is your windows key.
If you want to interact with the mac, press control+command, then give it a few 
seconds and you can turn voiceover back on.
I personally think you have a better experience with vmware and windows if you 
turn vo off.
GOod luck and feel free to add me on Skype if you need assistance.

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> So, here is my question.  In Fusion, I plan to be using my vm in full screen 
> mode as I do have some usable vision, so I want that ability.  So, how do I 
> switch between running apps in my vm windows environment, vs. switching 
> between apps along side in the mac?  If I do command+tab, won't Windows see 
> that as me hitting Windows+tab?  I say windows+tab as the alt and windows are 
> reversed.  I know that can be remapped, but I'd personally rather not. I kind 
> of like the reversed mapping, honestly.  Bottom line is, how do I specify 
> that I want to switch between Fusion, vs. say, YoruFukurou, or if I want to 
> switch say between, Outlook Distress vs. Internet Exploder.  Sorry, couldn't 
> resist the play on words.
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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Brandon,

thanks for all this info.  Happily, I qualify for the educational package, 
which goes for $111.  It means I'll have to buy the CD, but for that price, 
I'll deal. :)
Cheers,
Donna
On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
> They haven't on Amazon, but you must purchase the actual CD. You cannot 
> download it. Unfortunately, the digital download goes for the full price of 
> $199. I got around it by finding coupon for the UK version of their website 
> for 30% off, which puts it around $145. The coupon is DICTATE30%. to get to 
> their UK site, you have to go to http://shop.nuance.co.uk. The coupon does 
> not seem to work on the US site, so this is why I had to go this way. If you 
> use PayPal to pay, it should support the foreign currency.
> 
> The coupon seems to go until March 30.
> 
> I hope this helps,
> Brandon
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brandon,
>> 
>> When I purchased my copy for Windows, they sent me a CD.  Were you able to 
>> purchase it from Amazon and download it directly to your Mac?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> You should definitely check it out. I only had to say, for instance, the 
>>> words "reply to message" to reply to this message. It is so easy!
>>> 
>>> I'm also very good at typing, but I do make a lot of typos. I wanted to get 
>>> Dragon Dictate to make things easier. I believe that over time, it will get 
>>> much better at dictating what I'm saying, once it is trained enough. 
>>> Already it is getting very good!
>>> 
>>> Brandon
>>> 
>>> P.S.: This message was written with Dragon Dictate.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:51 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Brandon,
 
 That makes a lot of sense.  I have it on my PC, so know it from the 
 Windows side of things.  But it's usually easier for me to write than to 
 dictate, so I only dictate short things, and for that, the dictation on 
 the Mac has been sufficient.  But I've always liked the way you can use it 
 to control the computer.  I tried to do that with speakable items on the 
 Mac, but have had mixed success.  Maybe I'll check dragon out and see what 
 I think.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Feb 6, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Brandon Olivares  
 wrote:
 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> There are a lot of things that I like about Dragon Dictate over the max 
> dictation capabilities. Most of all, is that the dictation on the Mac is 
> limited to only a minute or two, while with Dragon Dictate, you can 
> dictate for as long as you need to, and there is no limit. With the Mac, 
> you are pressed to think quickly of what you want to say, With Dragon 
> Dictate, you can think for a minute or two about what you want to say 
> first. There is no rush.
> 
> You can even do editing commands. You can complete parts of what user 
> spoke, you can correct dictation errors, and you can even move around the 
> document.
> 
> Also with Dragon Dictate, there are many more commands for opening 
> applications opening new windows
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brandon,
>> 
>> Thanks for posting this.  I've wondered about Dragon for Mac.  I have 
>> two questions:
>> 
>> 1.  What do you like about using Dragon over the Mac's built-in 
>> dictation? 
>> 
>> 2.  Is it possible to export a user profile in Dragon 3 so it can be 
>> used on multiple computers?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am 
>>> loving it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many 
>>> bad reviews online about this version. However, so far, it has been 
>>> wonderful!
>>> 
>>> I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very 
>>> well it seems.
>>> 
>>> I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been 
>>> very accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
>>> 
>>> Brandon
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Re: How do I reliably right-click links in Safari using VoiceOver?

[Jessica Moss]

Cool, thanx for that bit of info.  I was actually wondering how to do that 
myself, considering the fact that I listen to podcasts myself from time to time 
but unfortunately don't have time to sit for long periods of time to listen to 
them and it would be nice to be able to save them to my phone/computer to 
listen to whenever.
  I managed to do that one time with a couple of the cooking in the dark shows, 
but couldn't remember how I used to do it, then after that couldn't get the 
files themselves to save without wanting to save the whole webpage, so 
appreciate this.
On Feb 6, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hello Jürgen, Darrell, and Others,
> 
> I'll just add the comment that if you ever have started playing an mp3
> file in your browser, you can press command-L to highlight the
> location in the browser followed by Option-enter to force this to
> download to your default downloads location instead of continuing to
> play..
> 
> This is the regular Mac shortcut known as Option-Click to force
> downloads of highlighted items.  VoiceOver automatically highlights
> the link when you navigate there, so holding down the Option key and
> then pressing return (or "enter" as many like to say) automatically
> forces the download.
> 
> When you navigate to the address bar with Command-L, the link address
> is automatically highlighted.  So this is what Mike's sequence of
> commands is doing: it's placing the highlighted link address in the
> address bar so he can press Option-Enter to force the download.
> 
> I usually move items from my downloads folder.  If I want to download
> a number of items to another folder, I may bring up the Safari
> preferences menu with Command-comma, and temporarily change the
> default download location.
> 
> HTH. Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Feb 5, 11:24 am, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>> thanks so much. That's a way to download an mp3 file I looked so long for.
>> Thanks again.
>> Jürgen
>> Am 05.02.2013 um 21:01 schrieb Michael Babcock :
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Here are the steps Iteri, and it may be the long, drawnout way.
>>> I find the link, press control, option, shift, you, immediately after that, 
>>> I listen to voiceover states "http://"; and I press control, option, shift, 
>>> see.
>>> I then press command L, and command, V. Holding the option key down, I 
>>> press return, this then causes the MP3 file to download. This is the most 
>>> reliable way I have found to download MP3 files.
>>> Hope this helps
>> 
>>> http://empoweringtheblind.com
>>> Empowering the blind, one step at a time.
>> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Darrell Shandrow  
>>> wrote:
>> 
 Hello Everyone,
>> 
 Can anyone tell me how I can reliably right-click links in Safari to take 
 actions on them, such as download the associated MP3 file?
>> 
 Here's what I am trying to do:
>> 
 1. Visithttp://htb2.com/tutorials/mac/
 2. Find a MP3 file link on that page.
 3. Press VO+Shift+M.
 4. Sometimes it works and I see 12 items on that menu. Other times it 
 doesn't and I only see five items.
>> 
 Any recommendations for doing this reliably?
>> 
 Thanks,
>> 
 Darrell
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contactsand gmail

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

Any idea how to import my contacts fromgmail?  I thought this was going to 
happen when i setthingsup onmymac, but i don't see them in contacts. Any ideas 
how to fix this?

Thanks,
Jed

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Re: User account settings & security

[Traci]

Yeah, not so much worried, more curious about the options.

I had read about creating a separate account for only checking emails and 
surfing, so if someone got the laptop, they'd be less likely to get sensitive 
data.

A more complicated idea was creating separate keychains.  One for everyday 
tasks, and one for financial passwords and such.

I've created an admin password now, and require it when the mac turns on & 
wakes up.

Thanks,
Traci
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On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Security is a spectrum. What kinds of bad things are you trying to avoid? For 
> example, any Mac can easily be broken into by booting off an OSX CD and 
> resetting the root password. Not so easy if you do the drive encryption. How 
> would multiple accounts help? I'd just set it up so you have to put in a 
> password when the machine wakes up and after a certain amount of idle time if 
> you don't want others to get in when you leave your laptop unattended, not 
> that you should really do that either.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/6/13 12:01 PM, Traci wrote:
>> Morning all,
>> 
>> I have some questions about the above subject.
>> 
>> Is there a way for 2 users to share some settings?  For example, I'd like my 
>> voiceover settings to be the same for 2 different users, or my key remap 
>> settings to be the same.
>> 
>> Also, what are your thoughts & recommendations on using a second account for 
>> traveling?  For extra security?  Has anyone created another account for when 
>> they are on the road or in hotels?  I'm just curious.
>> 
>> I've been playing around more with accounts, keychains, and the like.
>> 
>> Any input is appreciated.
>> 
>> Traci
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>> Society with a donation. Our efforts  will help make a big difference in the 
>> fight against blood cancers. Learn more & donate here. Thank you.
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Re: iTunes issue.

[Ray Foret Jr]

That is what I fricken hate about ITunes.  Its library  thinks it knows better 
than you where to put thinkgs and it puts them where it feels like it and you 
cannot control it.  I love the .m4a format for files, and, as a player, ITunes 
is actually easy:  but, the library sucks.  ITunes is very library dependent.  
When you synch your Iphone using it, you cannot manually select what songs go 
on yoru phone and which don't.  Until Apple makes ITunes a library independent 
player, I will never use it.  Sure, you can check and uncheck individual songs: 
 But, that doesn't always stick and I hate that ITunes seems to rely on a 
library which puts stuff where you cannot find it and thinks it knows better 
than you where stuff should go.


Sent from my mac
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

> I've been having this weird issue that started I'm not sure when, with Itunes 
> stripping my files out of their original folders on my harddrive when I load 
> them, then either putting them into a separate folder of their own somewhere 
> else on the drive, or, if the album is by various artists, it breaks it all 
> up according to artist name, and puts them all in a ton of folders all over 
> my drive, so that I have a ton of folders with only 1 or 2 songs in it that I 
> have to attempt to put back in order, if I even have the energy to do that 
> anymore depending on how big the complation is.
>  Does anyone know how to fix all this, or if it's even fixable?  I have no 
> idea how this happened, and it's driving me nuts, especially considering the 
> fact that at times I've had to rerip several albums for Hannah to listen to, 
> sense they don't ever stay where I put them, and I eventually delete them out 
> of my library, sense I don't want to listen to Sesame STreet on a daily 
> basis, and don't want to constantly leave it in my library and clutter it up. 
>  So at this point, any help someone could give me would really be appreciated.
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Re: contactsand gmail

[David Philip Martin Babula Hole]

Yes.

Under settings, set it up under accounts.
Choose carddav, server is google.com, use full Mail adress under username.

Mvh David Hole
Sendt fra min iPhone

Den 6. feb. 2013 kl. 19:20 skrev Jed Barton :

Hey guys,

Any idea how to import my contacts fromgmail?  I thought this was
going to happen when i setthingsup onmymac, but i don't see them in
contacts. Any ideas how to fix this?

Thanks,
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Re: Warning about I O S Jailbreak

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Mike, though I agree with you on not being locked down, I totally! totally! 
disagree with you on taking a risk.  Mike, I need this phone for work, so 
can't be without a cell smart phone as I do a fair amount of local travel 
from client to client.


Second of all, with my medical condition which we won't under any conditions 
discuss on list, it could mean the difference in myself or others getting 
hurt as if I get in a jam, I can call my doctor before things get really 
really bad and out of control.  So, yeah, though I love jail breaking, don't 
get me wrong, 'm not sure how much I am of a risk factor type person.  LOL!


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From: "Michael Babcock" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Warning about I O S Jailbreak


Chris;
In my opinion this is what makes jailbreaking so fun, you can break 
something just by installing an application, that you didn't expect to break 
anything. For example, when you are working with android, you can install an 
application that may cause your device to be useless. Therefore, in my 
opinion it's a lot nicer to be able to take a risk, then to be locked down 
by Apple's requirements in there App Store.
Michael PS, great job being able to fix it, that's why we always suggest 
making backups before you perform the jailbreak. That way, you can restore 
to your last known good configuration, just something to keep in the back of 
your mind.


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On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:15 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


I don't know if something on my end just went screw, but I tried 
installing some of the Siri addons which you can find in Cidia under the 
sections tab. Man, my phone was working fine until I installed some of 
them.  After I did, my phone, even when not using Siri froze almost every 
5 minutes literally speaking, I kid you not!  I finally had to restore the 
thing and unjailbreak it.  I still want to jailbreak, but I can't be with 
a phone that freezes every few seconds as I do use my device for more than 
just apps.  After all, it is a... gasp... phone... LOL!


Chris.
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Re: Jailbreaking?

[Raul A. Gallegos]

You can still purchase paid or get free apps from the app store. This is 
not affected at all.


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On 2/6/2013 6:30 AM, Richard Ring wrote:

I have one final question. If you jail break, does this mean you can no
longer purchase apps from the app store?

You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of
Fielding
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On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:43 AM, Scott Berry mailto:sb356...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Cdia is like the Itunes store and this is where you find all the apps
after you have jail broken.  I suggest just looking around I have just
been adding thing randomly as I think they might be something I need
or could use.


On 2/5/13 19:54, Jessica Moss wrote:

Ok, I've thought about doing this, but just out of curiosity, where
would you find other 3rd-party apps, and aside from the ones you just
mentioned, what others would some of you recommend?
On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Emilio wrote:


Hello Rich and others,


Jailbreaking while not a welcomed option for everyone does have
benefits.

Like many users on this list have already shared, jailbreaking
offers the user customization capabilities such as installing
programs that are not available through the App Store.

Personally, I find that “Poof,” gives me the option to hide
unnecessary stock apps, or apps that otherwise I feel clutter my
springboard. While hiding selected apps, the functionality thereof
is not lost. For instance, if I choose to hide the “contacts” app or
the “notes” app, I can still access these apps via spotlight.

“Folder close,” is another jailbreak tweak that does exactly what
the title suggests. Upon launching an app from a folder I have
created, the folder automatically closes and is not left open, which
is opposite to what the standard practice is without jailbreaking.


Hope this has been helpful.


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Re: Warning about I O S Jailbreak

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, Springtomize will enhance folder capabilities as well as do around 
50 or 60 more things. It's around $3 US Dollars.


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On 2/6/2013 10:11 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

There was one tweak i wanted but it wouldn't work on my system, according to 
the description, it was called Folder enhancer and allowed you to make sub 
folders and have many icons in a folder, not only 12. I hope this one soon 
becomes 6.1 compatible.
/Krister

6 feb 2013 kl. 17:07 skrev "Raul A. Gallegos" :


Hi, that happened to one of the 3 iPhones I jailbroke. The reason is because 
not all Cydia apps and tweaks are iOS 6 compatible yet. You have to be very 
careful in reading the app description to see which ones. Once I found that all 
I had to do was RTFM a little, things went fine. So, you can jailbreak, just 
don't go adding everything under the sun just because you can. I think that SMS 
GV Extension is one such app which is not yet iOS 6 ready and can cause issues.

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On 2/6/2013 9:15 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I don't know if something on my end just went screw, but I tried
installing some of the Siri addons which you can find in Cidia under the
sections tab. Man, my phone was working fine until I installed some of
them.  After I did, my phone, even when not using Siri froze almost
every 5 minutes literally speaking, I kid you not!  I finally had to
restore the thing and unjailbreak it.  I still want to jailbreak, but I
can't be with a phone that freezes every few seconds as I do use my
device for more than just apps.  After all, it is a... gasp... phone...
LOL!

Chris.


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ZoomText Mac Released

[dhacker]

Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that Ai Squared released 
ZoomText Mac last week at ATIA in Orlando, Florida. *Our first release is a 
magnification only release* - nope, we're not going to build a screen 
reader in a world where VoiceOver exists. That said, we're prototyping some 
great reading tools that we think will add real value for our users. The 
FAQ's address many of your obvious questions.

Take a look and let us know what you think, we've got a 30 day trial and 
lots more information available at the link below. 

ZoomText Mac Info : http://www.aisquared.com/zoomtextmac
Download A Free 30 Day Trial : 
http://www.aisquared.com/zoomtextmac/more/download_zoomtextmac_trial/
Frequently Asked Questions : http://www.aisquared.com/zoomtextmac/more/faq/

Best,

Doug

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Re: switching voice on voiceover

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Can you be more specific?  What exactly do you wanna do with the voice.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Jed Barton" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:12 PM
Subject: switching voice on voiceover



Hey guys,
I opened up the VoiceOver Utility, how do i change the voice I just wanna 
play with the different options.


Thanks,
Jed

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Re: ventral on themac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Is it easy enough also to set up a Ventrillo server?  Thought about doing 
it, if the server is accessible either on Windows, or the Mac.


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- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: ventral on themac


   It is actually quite accessible.  I use it all of the time a couple of 
nights a week.



Take Care

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On Feb 6, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:


Hey guys,

Has anyone been successful at running ventriloon the mac?
It looks completely unaccessible.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jed

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Re: ventral on themac

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

oh, nice, you can use the fn key as your PTT?  that's awesome!

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Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: ventral on themac


Yeah, Ventrilo on the Mac works really well. The only possible gotcha would 
be setting your push to talk (or release to listen, in some cases, I guess) 
hot key. For this you need a physical mouse, you have to route your mouse 
cursor to the OK button, turn off tracking, move back to the field for the 
PTT hot key, press something, then click the mouse. FN works pretty well for 
a PTT key, IMO.

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On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:54 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

   It is actually quite accessible.  I use it all of the time a couple of 
nights a week.



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Hey guys,

Has anyone been successful at running ventriloon the mac?
It looks completely unaccessible.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jed

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Re: Question about Fusion

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Thank you!  That is excellent!  I'll give it a try.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Bruinenberg" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: Question about Fusion


Hi Chris
To interact with the vm you press control+command f.
This is a command built in to vmware fusion.
THen when you press option tab, it will be the equivalent  of alt tab.
You can change this but by default, the option key is your alt key, the 
command key is your windows key.
If you want to interact with the mac, press control+command, then give it a 
few seconds and you can turn voiceover back on.
I personally think you have a better experience with vmware and windows if 
you turn vo off.

GOod luck and feel free to add me on Skype if you need assistance.

On Feb 6, 2013, at 7:11 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


So, here is my question.  In Fusion, I plan to be using my vm in full 
screen mode as I do have some usable vision, so I want that ability.  So, 
how do I switch between running apps in my vm windows environment, vs. 
switching between apps along side in the mac?  If I do command+tab, won't 
Windows see that as me hitting Windows+tab?  I say windows+tab as the alt 
and windows are reversed.  I know that can be remapped, but I'd personally 
rather not. I kind of like the reversed mapping, honestly.  Bottom line 
is, how do I specify that I want to switch between Fusion, vs. say, 
YoruFukurou, or if I want to switch say between, Outlook Distress vs. 
Internet Exploder.  Sorry, couldn't resist the play on words.


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"More Info," Item Option

[Emilio Hernandez]

Hello everyone,

When pressing CMD-I to activate the "more info," feature I run into an odd 
issue.
When navigating to the "more info" disclosure option, I expand this element 
because I want to get more information about the item.
Sometimes the elements are read with voiceover, but in most cases the relevant 
elements are skipped-over and voiceover moves to the next item, which is the 
"name and extension" component of a particular file.
Has anyone encountered this problem? If so, what are some alternative solutions 
others have used to access the "more info" component of a file?
I am wanting this information because I want the source information about the 
file, so I can create a Hazel rule.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Re: iTunes issue.

[Chris Blouch]

While I don't mind iTunes keeping my stuff organized, I thought turning 
off "Keep iTunes Media folder organized" and "Copy files to iTunes Media 
folder when adding to library" would address the issue for those who 
like to do it themselves. Checkboxes can be found in the Advanced 
section of Preferences.


CB

On 2/6/13 1:27 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
That is what I fricken hate about ITunes.  Its library  thinks it 
knows better than you where to put thinkgs and it puts them where it 
feels like it and you cannot control it.  I love the .m4a format for 
files, and, as a player, ITunes is actually easy:  but, the library 
sucks.  ITunes is very library dependent.  When you synch your Iphone 
using it, you cannot manually select what songs go on yoru phone and 
which don't.  Until Apple makes ITunes a library independent player, I 
will never use it.  Sure, you can check and uncheck individual songs: 
 But, that doesn't always stick and I hate that ITunes seems to rely 
on a library which puts stuff where you cannot find it and thinks it 
knows better than you where stuff should go.



Sent from my mac
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Jessica Moss > wrote:


I've been having this weird issue that started I'm not sure when, 
with Itunes stripping my files out of their original folders on my 
harddrive when I load them, then either putting them into a separate 
folder of their own somewhere else on the drive, or, if the album is 
by various artists, it breaks it all up according to artist name, and 
puts them all in a ton of folders all over my drive, so that I have a 
ton of folders with only 1 or 2 songs in it that I have to attempt to 
put back in order, if I even have the energy to do that anymore 
depending on how big the complation is.
 Does anyone know how to fix all this, or if it's even fixable?  I 
have no idea how this happened, and it's driving me nuts, especially 
considering the fact that at times I've had to rerip several albums 
for Hannah to listen to, sense they don't ever stay where I put them, 
and I eventually delete them out of my library, sense I don't want to 
listen to Sesame STreet on a daily basis, and don't want to 
constantly leave it in my library and clutter it up.  So at this 
point, any help someone could give me would really be appreciated.


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Re: contactsand gmail

[Jed Barton]

where do i put this google.com
On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:37 PM, David Philip Martin Babula Hole 
 wrote:

> Yes.
> 
> Under settings, set it up under accounts.
> Choose carddav, server is google.com, use full Mail adress under username.
> 
> Mvh David Hole
> Sendt fra min iPhone
> 
> Den 6. feb. 2013 kl. 19:20 skrev Jed Barton :
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> Any idea how to import my contacts fromgmail?  I thought this was
> going to happen when i setthingsup onmymac, but i don't see them in
> contacts. Any ideas how to fix this?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jed
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Re: iTunes issue.

[Ray Foret Jr]

Tried that:  but, that ain't no good.  ITunes still does the same thing;  and, 
you can't rename stuff either.


Sent from my mac
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Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> While I don't mind iTunes keeping my stuff organized, I thought turning off 
> "Keep iTunes Media folder organized" and "Copy files to iTunes Media folder 
> when adding to library" would address the issue for those who like to do it 
> themselves. Checkboxes can be found in the Advanced section of Preferences.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/6/13 1:27 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> That is what I fricken hate about ITunes.  Its library  thinks it knows 
>> better than you where to put thinkgs and it puts them where it feels like it 
>> and you cannot control it.  I love the .m4a format for files, and, as a 
>> player, ITunes is actually easy:  but, the library sucks.  ITunes is very 
>> library dependent.  When you synch your Iphone using it, you cannot manually 
>> select what songs go on yoru phone and which don't.  Until Apple makes 
>> ITunes a library independent player, I will never use it.  Sure, you can 
>> check and uncheck individual songs:  But, that doesn't always stick and I 
>> hate that ITunes seems to rely on a library which puts stuff where you 
>> cannot find it and thinks it knows better than you where stuff should go.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been having this weird issue that started I'm not sure when, with 
>>> Itunes stripping my files out of their original folders on my harddrive 
>>> when I load them, then either putting them into a separate folder of their 
>>> own somewhere else on the drive, or, if the album is by various artists, it 
>>> breaks it all up according to artist name, and puts them all in a ton of 
>>> folders all over my drive, so that I have a ton of folders with only 1 or 2 
>>> songs in it that I have to attempt to put back in order, if I even have the 
>>> energy to do that anymore depending on how big the complation is.
>>>  Does anyone know how to fix all this, or if it's even fixable?  I have no 
>>> idea how this happened, and it's driving me nuts, especially considering 
>>> the fact that at times I've had to rerip several albums for Hannah to 
>>> listen to, sense they don't ever stay where I put them, and I eventually 
>>> delete them out of my library, sense I don't want to listen to Sesame 
>>> STreet on a daily basis, and don't want to constantly leave it in my 
>>> library and clutter it up.  So at this point, any help someone could give 
>>> me would really be appreciated.
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Re: iTunes issue.

[Esther]

Hi Ray,

Unchecking the boxes for "Keep iTunes Media Folder Organized" and
"Copy files to iTunes Media folder when adding to library" in the
advanced pane of your iTunes preferences doesn't work after the fact
once you've added the folders to your iTunes library with these
unchecked, but it should work if you have these set before you add to
library, as Chris stated. Files and folders are never renamed if they
reside outside the current iTunes Media folder location when they are
added.  Only copies that placed in your iTunes Media folder location
are renamed to match the label tags.  You can always find the other
versions out side of your iTunes library location if that's where they
were located originally, change your preference settings, delete the
versions copied to iTunes, and add these again.

And I though you could manually manage your music if you sync your
iPhone to your computer.  Probably the easiest way to control this,
though, is to create a playlist that contains music you want on your
device, and check that you only want checked library tracks and
playlists to sync.

Cheers,

Esther


On Feb 6, 9:16 am, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> Tried that:  but, that ain't no good.  ITunes still does the same thing;  
> and, you can't rename stuff either.
>
> Sent from my mac
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > While I don't mind iTunes keeping my stuff organized, I thought turning off 
> > "Keep iTunes Media folder organized" and "Copy files to iTunes Media folder 
> > when adding to library" would address the issue for those who like to do it 
> > themselves. Checkboxes can be found in the Advanced section of Preferences.
>
> > CB
>
> > On 2/6/13 1:27 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> >> That is what I fricken hate about ITunes.  Its library  thinks it knows 
> >> better than you where to put thinkgs and it puts them where it feels like 
> >> it and you cannot control it.  I love the .m4a format for files, and, as a 
> >> player, ITunes is actually easy:  but, the library sucks.  ITunes is very 
> >> library dependent.  When you synch your Iphone using it, you cannot 
> >> manually select what songs go on yoru phone and which don't.  Until Apple 
> >> makes ITunes a library independent player, I will never use it.  Sure, you 
> >> can check and uncheck individual songs:  But, that doesn't always stick 
> >> and I hate that ITunes seems to rely on a library which puts stuff where 
> >> you cannot find it and thinks it knows better than you where stuff should 
> >> go.
>
> >> Sent from my mac
> >> Sincerely,
> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> >> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>
> >> On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Jessica Moss  
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> I've been having this weird issue that started I'm not sure when, with 
> >>> Itunes stripping my files out of their original folders on my harddrive 
> >>> when I load them, then either putting them into a separate folder of 
> >>> their own somewhere else on the drive, or, if the album is by various 
> >>> artists, it breaks it all up according to artist name, and puts them all 
> >>> in a ton of folders all over my drive, so that I have a ton of folders 
> >>> with only 1 or 2 songs in it that I have to attempt to put back in order, 
> >>> if I even have the energy to do that anymore depending on how big the 
> >>> complation is.
> >>>  Does anyone know how to fix all this, or if it's even fixable?  I have 
> >>> no idea how this happened, and it's driving me nuts, especially 
> >>> considering the fact that at times I've had to rerip several albums for 
> >>> Hannah to listen to, sense they don't ever stay where I put them, and I 
> >>> eventually delete them out of my library, sense I don't want to listen to 
> >>> Sesame STreet on a daily basis, and don't want to constantly leave it in 
> >>> my library and clutter it up.  So at this point, any help someone could 
> >>> give me would really be appreciated.
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Re: User account settings & security

[Kayaker]

Hi,

Here are some general notes on security:
1.  Physical security trumps any electronic security.  Bottom line, if someone 
has access to your computer, your data can be compromised.  It makes no 
difference if your in a home or hotel, if someone has your computer in hand, 
you are in trouble.

As far as electronic security, I suggest the following simple suggestions.  
First, when you first set up your computer, and it asks you for your initial 
account, create an account for administrator access only.  For example, it 
might be called admin.  Give this account admin rights to your computer.  Then, 
in accounts or users and groups system preferences, create your every day 
working account and do not allow this account to have administrator access to 
this computer.  Set it up as a standard user.  Then, if you ever need to 
install an update or application, use the admin accounts credentials.  I 
suggest this simple step to prevent any unknown web exploits as demonstrated by 
the recent java security hole in java 7 so urgently patched by oracle.

My final suggestion is to disable auto launching of trusted files from safari.  
There simply is no such thing as a trusted file type.  

These three things will make your Mac extremely secure, more so than using the 
walled garden of Mountain Lion's gatekeeper, imho.

As for sharing voiceover settings, I'd suggest exporting the settings from one 
account and importing it into the other.  Alternatively, consider using a small 
flash drive with mobile settings, then you can use this on any Mac, not just 
your own, and get your perfect set of VO settings no matter what Mac you are on.


Cheers.
--k
  

On Feb 6, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Traci  wrote:

> Morning all,
> 
> I have some questions about the above subject.
> 
> Is there a way for 2 users to share some settings?  For example, I'd like my 
> voiceover settings to be the same for 2 different users, or my key remap 
> settings to be the same.
> 
> Also, what are your thoughts & recommendations on using a second account for 
> traveling?  For extra security?  Has anyone created another account for when 
> they are on the road or in hotels?  I'm just curious.
> 
> I've been playing around more with accounts, keychains, and the like.
> 
> Any input is appreciated.
> 
> Traci
> Come climb with me (in spirit) and please support The Leukemia & Lymphoma 
> Society with a donation. Our efforts  will help make a big difference in the 
> fight against blood cancers. Learn more & donate here. Thank you.
> http://www.llswa.org/site/TR/Events/BigClimb?px=1570735&pg=personal&fr_id=1250
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adjust volume in smaller increments

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I just saw this tweet and thought it might be useful. I'll paste it below.
CultOfMac: Here's A Volume Trick For Mac That Will Change Your Life 
http://cultm.ac/XVXjuC


Have a great day,
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Please help with sendspace wiard

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Greetings,

I am having trouble with accessing the shortcut menu for sendspace files. In 
remote file view I cannot for example access the copy lynk option to re-send it 
to someone.

Any hints?
I guess I will also write them directly. They have a VO compatibility mode but 
no keyboard shortcuts for many functions I found not available otherwise.

Best,

Ioana

Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
stores.

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Re: adjust volume in smaller increments

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I saw this a while back, but thanks for reminding me again how to do it.

Chris Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Hall" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 3:00 PM
Subject: adjust volume in smaller increments



Hi all,
I just saw this tweet and thought it might be useful. I'll paste it below.
CultOfMac: Here's A Volume Trick For Mac That Will Change Your Life 
http://cultm.ac/XVXjuC



Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: contactsand gmail

[David Hole]

You will see it when you go to Settings (Command-,) in Contacts, and
choose Accounts.
Press Add new account, and choose CardDav. Then you shall enter the
stuff I gave you :-)

-David

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> where do i put this google.com
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:37 PM, David Philip Martin Babula Hole 
>  wrote:
>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Under settings, set it up under accounts.
>> Choose carddav, server is google.com, use full Mail adress under username.
>>
>> Mvh David Hole
>> Sendt fra min iPhone
>>
>> Den 6. feb. 2013 kl. 19:20 skrev Jed Barton :
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> Any idea how to import my contacts fromgmail?  I thought this was
>> going to happen when i setthingsup onmymac, but i don't see them in
>> contacts. Any ideas how to fix this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jed
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Please help with sendspace wizard

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Greetings,

I am having trouble with accessing the shortcut menu for sendspace files. In 
remote file view I cannot for example access the copy lynk option to re-send it 
to someone.

Any hints?
I guess I will also write them directly. They have a VO compatibility mode but 
no keyboard shortcuts for many functions I found not available otherwise.

Best,

Ioana

Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
stores.

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Re: Please help with sendspace wizard

[matthew Dyer]

I've given up on the send space wisard on the mac as I am unable to sign in to 
my account to do anything with it.


On Feb 6, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> I am having trouble with accessing the shortcut menu for sendspace files. In 
> remote file view I cannot for example access the copy lynk option to re-send 
> it to someone.
> 
> Any hints?
> I guess I will also write them directly. They have a VO compatibility mode 
> but no keyboard shortcuts for many functions I found not available otherwise.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Ioana
> 
> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
> stores.
> 
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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Brandon Olivares]

Hi Donna,

That's awesome. I definitely recommend it then.

And hopefully the info will help anyone else who is thinking about getting 
Dragon Dictate. :)

Brandon

On Feb 6, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Hi Brandon,
> 
> thanks for all this info.  Happily, I qualify for the educational package, 
> which goes for $111.  It means I'll have to buy the CD, but for that price, 
> I'll deal. :)
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> They haven't on Amazon, but you must purchase the actual CD. You cannot 
>> download it. Unfortunately, the digital download goes for the full price of 
>> $199. I got around it by finding coupon for the UK version of their website 
>> for 30% off, which puts it around $145. The coupon is DICTATE30%. to get to 
>> their UK site, you have to go to http://shop.nuance.co.uk. The coupon does 
>> not seem to work on the US site, so this is why I had to go this way. If you 
>> use PayPal to pay, it should support the foreign currency.
>> 
>> The coupon seems to go until March 30.
>> 
>> I hope this helps,
>> Brandon
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Brandon,
>>> 
>>> When I purchased my copy for Windows, they sent me a CD.  Were you able to 
>>> purchase it from Amazon and download it directly to your Mac?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Brandon Olivares  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Donna,
 
 You should definitely check it out. I only had to say, for instance, the 
 words "reply to message" to reply to this message. It is so easy!
 
 I'm also very good at typing, but I do make a lot of typos. I wanted to 
 get Dragon Dictate to make things easier. I believe that over time, it 
 will get much better at dictating what I'm saying, once it is trained 
 enough. Already it is getting very good!
 
 Brandon
 
 P.S.: This message was written with Dragon Dictate.
 
 On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:51 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
> Hi Brandon,
> 
> That makes a lot of sense.  I have it on my PC, so know it from the 
> Windows side of things.  But it's usually easier for me to write than to 
> dictate, so I only dictate short things, and for that, the dictation on 
> the Mac has been sufficient.  But I've always liked the way you can use 
> it to control the computer.  I tried to do that with speakable items on 
> the Mac, but have had mixed success.  Maybe I'll check dragon out and see 
> what I think.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 7:24 AM, Brandon Olivares  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> There are a lot of things that I like about Dragon Dictate over the max 
>> dictation capabilities. Most of all, is that the dictation on the Mac is 
>> limited to only a minute or two, while with Dragon Dictate, you can 
>> dictate for as long as you need to, and there is no limit. With the Mac, 
>> you are pressed to think quickly of what you want to say, With Dragon 
>> Dictate, you can think for a minute or two about what you want to say 
>> first. There is no rush.
>> 
>> You can even do editing commands. You can complete parts of what user 
>> spoke, you can correct dictation errors, and you can even move around 
>> the document.
>> 
>> Also with Dragon Dictate, there are many more commands for opening 
>> applications opening new windows
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Brandon,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for posting this.  I've wondered about Dragon for Mac.  I have 
>>> two questions:
>>> 
>>> 1.  What do you like about using Dragon over the Mac's built-in 
>>> dictation? 
>>> 
>>> 2.  Is it possible to export a user profile in Dragon 3 so it can be 
>>> used on multiple computers?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Brandon Olivares 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all,
 
 I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am 
 loving it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very 
 many bad reviews online about this version. However, so far, it has 
 been wonderful!
 
 I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very 
 well it seems.
 
 I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been 
 very accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
 
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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Maurice Mines]

See you when you go to the training process, you have to read a story. And if 
you only use voiceover, it will go fairly slowly. Because you have to read the 
text a.k.a. listen to it. And then try to remember it, long enough to dictate 
it back into Dragon. And so this does lengthen the amount of time it takes to 
produce the text in the training story. I hope this helps people out where on 
the list? For some reason my voice doesn't exactly work well with Siri on my 
iPhone. So if you were not able to understand this feel free to write me a 
message.

Sent from Morris's iPhone

On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:52 AM, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:

> Hello there. How is the training process? Do you have to read a specific 
> block of text? If yes, how did you do that? 
> Also, if you happen to know, is this available in other languages? 
> The built in dictation on the Mac is unfortunately only available in English. 
> 
> Regards.
> Nektarios.
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> There are a lot of things that I like about Dragon Dictate over the max 
>> dictation capabilities. Most of all, is that the dictation on the Mac is 
>> limited to only a minute or two, while with Dragon Dictate, you can dictate 
>> for as long as you need to, and there is no limit. With the Mac, you are 
>> pressed to think quickly of what you want to say, With Dragon Dictate, you 
>> can think for a minute or two about what you want to say first. There is no 
>> rush.
>> 
>> You can even do editing commands. You can complete parts of what user spoke, 
>> you can correct dictation errors, and you can even move around the document.
>> 
>> Also with Dragon Dictate, there are many more commands for opening 
>> applications opening new windows
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Brandon,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for posting this.  I've wondered about Dragon for Mac.  I have two 
>>> questions:
>>> 
>>> 1.  What do you like about using Dragon over the Mac's built-in dictation? 
>>> 
>>> 2.  Is it possible to export a user profile in Dragon 3 so it can be used 
>>> on multiple computers?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all,
 
 I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am loving 
 it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many bad 
 reviews online about this version. However, so far, it has been wonderful!
 
 I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very well 
 it seems.
 
 I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been very 
 accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
 
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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Donna Goodin]

It's definitely a lot easier to do if you either have a braille display, or can 
emboss a braille copy to read the text from.
Best,
Donna
On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Maurice Mines  wrote:

> See you when you go to the training process, you have to read a story. And if 
> you only use voiceover, it will go fairly slowly. Because you have to read 
> the text a.k.a. listen to it. And then try to remember it, long enough to 
> dictate it back into Dragon. And so this does lengthen the amount of time it 
> takes to produce the text in the training story. I hope this helps people out 
> where on the list? For some reason my voice doesn't exactly work well with 
> Siri on my iPhone. So if you were not able to understand this feel free to 
> write me a message.
> 
> Sent from Morris's iPhone
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:52 AM, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
> 
>> Hello there. How is the training process? Do you have to read a specific 
>> block of text? If yes, how did you do that? 
>> Also, if you happen to know, is this available in other languages? 
>> The built in dictation on the Mac is unfortunately only available in 
>> English. 
>> 
>> Regards.
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> There are a lot of things that I like about Dragon Dictate over the max 
>>> dictation capabilities. Most of all, is that the dictation on the Mac is 
>>> limited to only a minute or two, while with Dragon Dictate, you can dictate 
>>> for as long as you need to, and there is no limit. With the Mac, you are 
>>> pressed to think quickly of what you want to say, With Dragon Dictate, you 
>>> can think for a minute or two about what you want to say first. There is no 
>>> rush.
>>> 
>>> You can even do editing commands. You can complete parts of what user 
>>> spoke, you can correct dictation errors, and you can even move around the 
>>> document.
>>> 
>>> Also with Dragon Dictate, there are many more commands for opening 
>>> applications opening new windows
>>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Brandon,
 
 Thanks for posting this.  I've wondered about Dragon for Mac.  I have two 
 questions:
 
 1.  What do you like about using Dragon over the Mac's built-in dictation? 
 
 2.  Is it possible to export a user profile in Dragon 3 so it can be used 
 on multiple computers?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Feb 5, 2013, at 11:55 PM, Brandon Olivares  
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> Hello all,
> 
> I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am 
> loving it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many 
> bad reviews online about this version. However, so far, it has been 
> wonderful!
> 
> I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very well 
> it seems.
> 
> I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been very 
> accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
> 
> Brandon
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Can SuperDuper be used to backup bootcamp partition

[Phil Halton]

It seems like SuperDuper should be able to backup a bootcamp partition, but I 
have a feeling it isn't that simple. anybody know if this can be done? Would it 
run into trouble making the backup a bootable image - just guessing?

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Re: Can SuperDuper be used to backup bootcamp partition

[Daniel C]

Hi,
SuperDuper!, is designed from what I see, at least, to backup 1 partition at a 
time.
When I had multi partitions, SuperDuper asked me what partition to backup, out 
of the 2 it saw.

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A request to contact apple about pages.

[Chris Bruinenberg]

Hi all.
To some this isn't  important to you at all but please I'm asking for your 
assistance to contact apple about pages and the following issue.
I have already contacted them about the issue and i hope somebody on this list 
will as well.
The issue i have currently with pages is voiceover doesn't announce the text 
alignment.
It however will announce this within text edit and nidus writer express.
Would anybody be so kind to help  me and also contact apple's support team?
I have sent an email to apples pages team as well as apple accessibility.
This is an issue for me currently that is a very annoyance because papers at my 
university have to be aligned in many ways.
If anybody has any suggestions for me, please let me know.
Thank you for your time.
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Re: Dragon Dictate

[Brandon Olivares]

Yes, the training was difficult. But I was able to get through it pretty 
easily. The first couple of pages is the most difficult, but after that it's a 
lot easier.

I only wish that they were more navigation commands. Apparently, with Dragon 
NaturallySpeaking, there are many more navigation commands, so that you can 
always use your voice to navigate even the web. However, Dragon Dictate is 
still catching up in this regard.

However, I am still loving it! It's been a lot of fun to dictate all of my 
messages!
Regards,
Brandon Olivares
Azavia Technologies
ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader

On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Maurice Mines  wrote:

> See you when you go to the training process, you have to read a story. And if 
> you only use voiceover, it will go fairly slowly. Because you have to read 
> the text a.k.a. listen to it. And then try to remember it, long enough to 
> dictate it back into Dragon. And so this does lengthen the amount of time it 
> takes to produce the text in the training story. I hope this helps people out 
> where on the list? For some reason my voice doesn't exactly work well with 
> Siri on my iPhone. So if you were not able to understand this feel free to 
> write me a message.
> 
> Sent from Morris's iPhone
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 5:52 AM, Nektarios Mallas  wrote:
> 
>> Hello there. How is the training process? Do you have to read a specific 
>> block of text? If yes, how did you do that? 
>> Also, if you happen to know, is this available in other languages? 
>> The built in dictation on the Mac is unfortunately only available in 
>> English. 
>> 
>> Regards.
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Brandon Olivares  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> There are a lot of things that I like about Dragon Dictate over the max 
>>> dictation capabilities. Most of all, is that the dictation on the Mac is 
>>> limited to only a minute or two, while with Dragon Dictate, you can dictate 
>>> for as long as you need to, and there is no limit. With the Mac, you are 
>>> pressed to think quickly of what you want to say, With Dragon Dictate, you 
>>> can think for a minute or two about what you want to say first. There is no 
>>> rush.
>>> 
>>> You can even do editing commands. You can complete parts of what user 
>>> spoke, you can correct dictation errors, and you can even move around the 
>>> document.
>>> 
>>> Also with Dragon Dictate, there are many more commands for opening 
>>> applications opening new windows
>>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Brandon,
 
 Thanks for posting this.  I've wondered about Dragon for Mac.  I have two 
 questions:
 
 1.  What do you like about using Dragon over the Mac's built-in dictation? 
 
 2.  Is it possible to export a user profile in Dragon 3 so it can be used 
 on multiple computers?
 Thanks,
 Donna
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> Hello all,
> 
> I just got Dragon Dictate version 3 for the Mac today! So far, I am 
> loving it. I was very nervous, because I have heard there are very many 
> bad reviews online about this version. However, so far, it has been 
> wonderful!
> 
> I am dictating this email with Dragon dictate, and it is going very well 
> it seems.
> 
> I just got it today, so it is still training, but so far it has been very 
> accurate. It is so fun to play with it!
> 
> Brandon
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copying entire albums or movies

[Kerri]

hello, all. I recently import a cd but don't want it in the library. how do I 
copy the entire cd? When I went to it and did command c, individual tracks were 
copied, not the whole cd. Thanks and have a great day.

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Blood Pressure Monitor

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I'mkooking for the App for this product has nyone used it? Is it accessi# with 
Voice Over? 

Check out this product from the Apple Store:

http://store.apple.com/xc/product/H6012ZM/A

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Re: copying entire albums or movies

[Ray Foret Jr]

IS it a store bought CD?  Max would be the way I would go about doing this.  
It's free and accessible and easy to set up.


Sent from my mac
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> hello, all. I recently import a cd but don't want it in the library. how do I 
> copy the entire cd? When I went to it and did command c, individual tracks 
> were copied, not the whole cd. Thanks and have a great day.
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Looking for a few tutorials I'm missing

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I have all of Mike Arrigo's tutorials he put up on BCT about Voiceover, but 
I'm missing mac demo 1, 10, 11, and 12.  I think there should be 14 all 
total.


If mike or anyone else has the ones I'm missing and could give me a 
sendspace or Dropbox link, I'd really! appreciate it!


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Re: copying entire albums or movies

[Kerri]

hi, ray, yes it is a store bought c and is max an app or a regular program? So 
do I perform a google search or fetch it from the app store?
On 2013-02-06, at 4:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> IS it a store bought CD?  Max would be the way I would go about doing this.  
> It's free and accessible and easy to set up.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> hello, all. I recently import a cd but don't want it in the library. how do 
>> I copy the entire cd? When I went to it and did command c, individual tracks 
>> were copied, not the whole cd. Thanks and have a great day.
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Re: A request to contact apple about pages.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Hey Chris.  There are a lot of accessibility issues with Pages which 
frankly, Apple has been saying they'd fix, but haven't.  I wrote them, so 
we'll hope for the best, but I'm going to be very very frank with you.  I'm 
not very optimistic, admittedly.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Bruinenberg" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 6:44 PM
Subject: A request to contact apple about pages.



Hi all.
To some this isn't  important to you at all but please I'm asking for your 
assistance to contact apple about pages and the following issue.
I have already contacted them about the issue and i hope somebody on this 
list will as well.
The issue i have currently with pages is voiceover doesn't announce the 
text alignment.

It however will announce this within text edit and nidus writer express.
Would anybody be so kind to help  me and also contact apple's support 
team?

I have sent an email to apples pages team as well as apple accessibility.
This is an issue for me currently that is a very annoyance because papers 
at my university have to be aligned in many ways.

If anybody has any suggestions for me, please let me know.
Thank you for your time.
Christopher Bruinenberg

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Re: copying entire albums or movies

[Ray Foret Jr]

Google it and you'll come up with it right near the top.  Max CD ripper or some 
such search should hield the rresults you want.


Sent from my mac
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:28 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> hi, ray, yes it is a store bought c and is max an app or a regular program? 
> So do I perform a google search or fetch it from the app store?
> On 2013-02-06, at 4:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> IS it a store bought CD?  Max would be the way I would go about doing this.  
>> It's free and accessible and easy to set up.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
>>> hello, all. I recently import a cd but don't want it in the library. how do 
>>> I copy the entire cd? When I went to it and did command c, individual 
>>> tracks were copied, not the whole cd. Thanks and have a great day.
>>> 
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Re: copying entire albums or movies

[Esther]

Hello Kerri,

I'm not sure what you want to do here, but if you want to make copies
of all your imported CD tracks from iTunes, select one of the tracks,
then press Command-Shift-R, which should show the location of that
track in a Finder window under the folder for its album. Press Command-
A to select all, the Command-C to copy.  Then navigate to the folder
you want to put your tracks into and paste with Command-V. For
example, if I want to put these into a folder on my Desktop named "My
Great Music", I could move to the Desktop with Command-Shift-D. Create
a new folder there with Command-Shift-N and type in the name "My Great
Music".  Then I could move into the folder with Command-Down arrow and
paste in the tracks I had copied with Command-V.

You would still need to move aback into iTunes with Command-Tab and
delete the tracks there, because iTunes keeps its own database, and
simply deleting the tracks using Finder only leaves behind broken
links.

Ray is correct that if you don't want to organize your music in
iTunes, and don't care about being able to sync it to an iPhone or
other Apple device, you should probably use third party software like
Mac by sbooth to rip your CDs.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 6, 2:28 pm, Kerri  wrote:
> hi, ray, yes it is a store bought c and is max an app or a regular program? 
> So do I perform a google search or fetch it from the app store?
> On 2013-02-06, at 4:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > IS it a store bought CD?  Max would be the way I would go about doing this. 
> >  It's free and accessible and easy to set up.
>
> > Sent from my mac
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> > Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>
> > On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>
> >> hello, all. I recently import a cd but don't want it in the library. how 
> >> do I copy the entire cd? When I went to it and did command c, individual 
> >> tracks were copied, not the whole cd. Thanks and have a great day.
>
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Re: Looking for a few tutorials I'm missing

[Esther]

Hi Chris,

You asked on this list and not the Mac-Access list, but I'll point you to an 
old Mail Archive posting of mine from the Mac-Access list that gives the 
summary of the dates, titles, description, and sizes of all 14 of Mike's Mac 
podcasts at BCT.  With the exact date information you should just be able to 
find them from the Blind Cool Tech web site:
• Re: Podcast on Lion OS
http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg03072.html

HTH. Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 6, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

> I have all of Mike Arrigo's tutorials he put up on BCT about Voiceover, but 
> I'm missing mac demo 1, 10, 11, and 12.  I think there should be 14 all total.
> 
> If mike or anyone else has the ones I'm missing and could give me a sendspace 
> or Dropbox link, I'd really! appreciate it!
> 
> Chris Gilland.

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Re: copying entire albums or movies

[Kerri]

Hi, Esther:

I want to copy the entire cd, not have individual tracks. When I pasted the cd 
into drop box, I saw individual tracks, not an album.
On 2013-02-06, at 4:50 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hello Kerri,
> 
> I'm not sure what you want to do here, but if you want to make copies
> of all your imported CD tracks from iTunes, select one of the tracks,
> then press Command-Shift-R, which should show the location of that
> track in a Finder window under the folder for its album. Press Command-
> A to select all, the Command-C to copy.  Then navigate to the folder
> you want to put your tracks into and paste with Command-V. For
> example, if I want to put these into a folder on my Desktop named "My
> Great Music", I could move to the Desktop with Command-Shift-D. Create
> a new folder there with Command-Shift-N and type in the name "My Great
> Music".  Then I could move into the folder with Command-Down arrow and
> paste in the tracks I had copied with Command-V.
> 
> You would still need to move aback into iTunes with Command-Tab and
> delete the tracks there, because iTunes keeps its own database, and
> simply deleting the tracks using Finder only leaves behind broken
> links.
> 
> Ray is correct that if you don't want to organize your music in
> iTunes, and don't care about being able to sync it to an iPhone or
> other Apple device, you should probably use third party software like
> Mac by sbooth to rip your CDs.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Feb 6, 2:28 pm, Kerri  wrote:
>> hi, ray, yes it is a store bought c and is max an app or a regular program? 
>> So do I perform a google search or fetch it from the app store?
>> On 2013-02-06, at 4:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> IS it a store bought CD?  Max would be the way I would go about doing this. 
>>>  It's free and accessible and easy to set up.
>> 
>>> Sent from my mac
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:01 PM, Kerri  wrote:
>> 
 hello, all. I recently import a cd but don't want it in the library. how 
 do I copy the entire cd? When I went to it and did command c, individual 
 tracks were copied, not the whole cd. Thanks and have a great day.
>> 
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Re: VO reads things twice

[Nicholas Parsons]

Okay. Sure thing, Gigi. I'll do that. Has it got anything to do with verbosity 
settings I wonder?
Nic

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Re: Looking for a few tutorials I'm missing

[Chris Gilland]

Ester,

The problem is that BCT is missing some of the files.  This is why I asked.
On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> 
> You asked on this list and not the Mac-Access list, but I'll point you to an 
> old Mail Archive posting of mine from the Mac-Access list that gives the 
> summary of the dates, titles, description, and sizes of all 14 of Mike's Mac 
> podcasts at BCT.  With the exact date information you should just be able to 
> find them from the Blind Cool Tech web site:
> • Re: Podcast on Lion OS
> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg03072.html
> 
> HTH. Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Feb 6, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> 
>> I have all of Mike Arrigo's tutorials he put up on BCT about Voiceover, but 
>> I'm missing mac demo 1, 10, 11, and 12.  I think there should be 14 all 
>> total.
>> 
>> If mike or anyone else has the ones I'm missing and could give me a 
>> sendspace or Dropbox link, I'd really! appreciate it!
>> 
>> Chris Gilland.
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Re: VO reads things twice

[Nicholas Parsons]

HI Ricardo,

Thanks for that. I thought without interacting you could only go up and down, 
but couldn't open new folders. I'm sure I tried it before without success. NOt 
sure what I did wrong.

Anyway, that's a great tip and will save me some time. Thank you!

Nic

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Fwd: iBP Support

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Kawal Gucukoglu 
> Date: 7 February 2013 01:28:52 AM GMT
> To: "i...@leadingedgeapps.com" 
> Subject: iBP Support
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I'd like to know if your Apps are Voice Over compatible as Voice Over is 
> built in to the Apple Products for blind people to use. Based on your answer, 
> I'd like to buy the Blood Pressure Monitor from the Apple Store.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Kawal.

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