alternative vm software

[chad baker]

Hi is there any alternative virtual machine software besides fusion?
I'm finding it real sluggish.
I wish virtualbox was accessible.
I want to try bootcamp but i don't have anyone sighted around.
Is there a work around or no?
thanks

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Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people

[Esther]

Hi Simon,

You can purchase a DRM-free, ePub version of "Mac OS X Snow Leopard:  
The Missing Manual" by David Pogue from O'Reilly's eBooks.  They sell  
their eBooks in multi-format bundles that include PDF files that you  
can read in Preview and ePub versions that you can add to your iTunes  
Library and read in iBooks on your iPad (or iPhone or iPod Touch under  
iOS 4).   They also have "Switching to the Mac: The Missing Manual,  
Snow Leopard Edition" by the same author.  All the O'Reilly books are  
available through Bookshare.org, internationally, although the annual  
subscription for users outside of the U.S. is probably the cost of  
buying the book from O'Reilly in an eBook bundle that includes an ePub  
version.  Here's their web site:


http://oreilly.com/ebooks/

You'll need to create an account with log in for your purchases.  Once  
you buy the eBook bundle, you'll have access to multiple formats of  
the book from your log in account.  They'll also tell you if the book  
has been updated.  I'm not sure if this is still valid, but they ran a  
promotion for eBook purchases in connection with the iPhone (Stanza  
app) last year, and the coupon code "STANZACAT" on checkout gave a 40%  
discount.


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 11, 2010, Teresa Cochran wrote:


It's in pdf format.

Teresa

On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

Is this book available in an e book format, that I could read on my  
ipad?


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Subject: Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people

Snow Leopard, The Missing Manual from OReilly publishers is an  
extremely
good book. It describes in detail what the window controls look  
like and any

keystrokes, if applicable, etc. I highly recommend it.

Teresa
On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:


Hi:
Now this is a switch. LOL. I've learned Windows from sighted  
people, so
have been able to adapt from their POV; however I'm learning the  
Mac from a
blindness perspective. I'm trying to show a sighted person my Mac,  
and since
I don't really know what the screen looks like, we're having  
issues. I.E. He
cannot see the icons on the doc, and he cannot find the address bar  
in

Safari. Any advice?



Sarai Bucciarelli
Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia



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video problem

[clarence griffin]

I am having problems watching youtube and other videos on the web. Is there 
some trouble shooting I should do here? I am running the newest version of 
safari.
When I click on the links to watch, nothing happens. I go to the video element 
controls, and click play, and nothing happens. Thanks for any help.

GF


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Re: alternative vm software

[Sarah Alawami]

Yu can try vertual box but you use the command line. I'm not an export in the 
terminal at all so can't even give you 1 iota of helpful advice. lol!

Take care.

S
On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:10 AM, chad baker wrote:

> Hi is there any alternative virtual machine software besides fusion?
> I'm finding it real sluggish.
> I wish virtualbox was accessible.
> I want to try bootcamp but i don't have anyone sighted around.
> Is there a work around or no?
> thanks
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RE: a big big problem with a drive

[Simon Fogarty]

Windows machine is windows vista or windows 7. Then go into start menu, all
programs, accessories then scroll down till you find command prompt. Right
click on the command prompt option, and then from the menu, select run as
administrator.

Then try running the command  chkdsk /f on your problem drive.

If it's c drive,  you may have to say yes to It being done after the machine
re starts.

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: a big big problem with a drive

 

I tried that. but it scanned in read only mode when I just typed chkdsk in
the cmd prompt. That's the first step I did but I'll try it again. Oh and I
ran chkdsk throught the windows property dialogue as well. No issues I
think.

On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:54 AM, Erik Heil wrote:





Hi. 

First of all, I'm going to assume that you don't have a RAID setup. If you
did, you'd likely know about it. So, just ignore those errors. To fix this
error, reboot into Windows, enter cmd.exe and when you get to the prompt,
type "chkdsk /F" and the drive letter Windows assigns to it. Windows will
most likely complain about inconsistent entries in the MFT (similar to old
FAT filesystems on floppy disks or other media.) Go ahead and have Windows
fix those errors. When the process is complete, try mounting the filesystem
again. You shouldn't get any errors at this point. Note that Windows is a
bit conservative about displaying errors--in this case ntfs 3G did you a
favor. While not serious, there is a potential for these errors to become
much more serious over time. 

 

--Erik 

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

I'm replying with the error message. it is the following I managed to
reproduce when plugging in the drive. Now mind you this thing works very
well, flawlessly in fact under windows.

NTFS-3G could not mount /dev/disk1s5
at /Volumes/Untitled because the following problem occurred:

$MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).
Failed to mount '/dev/rdisk1s5': Input/output error
NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very
important! If the device is a SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first activate
it and mount a different device under the /dev/mapper/ directory, (e.g.
/dev/mapper/nvidia_eahaabcc1). Please see the 'dmraid' documentation
for more details.

Ok what does this mean? And how can I fix it?

On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:54 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> hello. I can access this drive on windows fine but nt on mac. I have
ntfs3g and macfuse installed A few days ago I received this odd message. i
have a recording of me troubleshooting but basically I ran chkdsk and
rebooted twice in to windows then I tried to repair permissions ont he drive
with no success. Here ya go. the error message happened to be caught on
tape. I cann ot transcribe it. Here's the clip. feel free to skim. it is
kind of long.
>
> http://twaud.io/874

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Re: Grade two input with the language pack?

[erik burggraaf]

Thanks anne,

I thought this was up and running already and it was something I had missed or 
done wrong.  It happens often enough.  :)

Well I and I'm sure many others have been bugging apple accessibility for grade 
two input and I'll find a use for this language pack one way or the other.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box.
Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and 
subscribe.

On 2010-08-14, at 2:48 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Erik,
> 
> CeciMac Braille provides only grade one Braille in a great many other 
> languages than English. You select your language in the Braille category of 
> the VoiceOver Utility.
> 
> My husband, Archie, provides this facility because Apple does not, and many 
> languages have symbols, such as accented letters, which are not present in 
> English, and are represented differently for the various languages.
> 
> Archie spent a lot of time trying to make grade two Braille work but was 
> unable to do so, and Apple was not prepared to offer any help with this.
> 
> CeciMac Braille is a free download from:
> www.cecimac.org
> 
> and we hope that people will understand that Archie tried very hard to 
> provide grade two Braille but didn't have the time to get it to work.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Re: alternative vm software

[joseph]

i tried parallel desktop.  it is not accessible but if you get sighted
help to set it up once, it should not give you any problem.

hth.

Sarah Alawami wrote:
> Yu can try vertual box but you use the command line. I'm not an export in the 
> terminal at all so can't even give you 1 iota of helpful advice. lol!
>
> Take care.
>
> S
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:10 AM, chad baker wrote:
>
> > Hi is there any alternative virtual machine software besides fusion?
> > I'm finding it real sluggish.
> > I wish virtualbox was accessible.
> > I want to try bootcamp but i don't have anyone sighted around.
> > Is there a work around or no?
> > thanks
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Re: a big big problem with a drive

[Sarah Alawami]

Ype I got it works. I run everything as admin anyway and it works now. thanks.
On Aug 14, 2010, at 3:33 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> Windows machine is windows vista or windows 7. Then go into start menu, all 
> programs, accessories then scroll down till you find command prompt. Right 
> click on the command prompt option, and then from the menu, select run as 
> administrator.
> Then try running the command  chkdsk /f on your problem drive.
> If it’s c drive,  you may have to say yes to It being done after the machine 
> re starts.
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
> Sent: Friday, 13 August 2010 4:56 a.m.
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: a big big problem with a drive
>  
> I tried that. but it scanned in read only mode when I just typed chkdsk in 
> the cmd prompt. That's the first step I did but I'll try it again. Oh and I 
> ran chkdsk throught the windows property dialogue as well. No issues I think.
> On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:54 AM, Erik Heil wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi.
> First of all, I'm going to assume that you don't have a RAID setup. If you 
> did, you'd likely know about it. So, just ignore those errors. To fix this 
> error, reboot into Windows, enter cmd.exe and when you get to the prompt, 
> type "chkdsk /F" and the drive letter Windows assigns to it. Windows will 
> most likely complain about inconsistent entries in the MFT (similar to old 
> FAT filesystems on floppy disks or other media.) Go ahead and have Windows 
> fix those errors. When the process is complete, try mounting the filesystem 
> again. You shouldn't get any errors at this point. Note that Windows is a bit 
> conservative about displaying errors--in this case ntfs 3G did you a favor. 
> While not serious, there is a potential for these errors to become much more 
> serious over time.
>  
> --Erik
> 
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> I'm replying with the error message. it is the following I managed to 
> reproduce when plugging in the drive. Now mind you this thing works very 
> well, flawlessly in fact under windows.
> 
> NTFS-3G could not mount /dev/disk1s5
> at /Volumes/Untitled because the following problem occurred:
> 
> $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).
> Failed to mount '/dev/rdisk1s5': Input/output error
> NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
> then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very
> important! If the device is a SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first activate
> it and mount a different device under the /dev/mapper/ directory, (e.g.
> /dev/mapper/nvidia_eahaabcc1). Please see the 'dmraid' documentation
> for more details.
> 
> Ok what does this mean? And how can I fix it?
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:54 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
> > hello. I can access this drive on windows fine but nt on mac. I have ntfs3g 
> > and macfuse installed A few days ago I received this odd message. i have a 
> > recording of me troubleshooting but basically I ran chkdsk and rebooted 
> > twice in to windows then I tried to repair permissions ont he drive with no 
> > success. Here ya go. the error message happened to be caught on tape. I 
> > cann ot transcribe it. Here's the clip. feel free to skim. it is kind of 
> > long.
> >
> > http://twaud.io/874
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Itunes question

[focus]

Hi all!
I'm trying to select more than one track from an album to move to a playlist!
The vo commands menu says vo+cmd+space for multi selection on or off!
But this does not seem to do that!
Also am I correct that you can not pick tracks 1,4,7,11,16.
But have to pick 4,5,6,7,8.
Any help welcome!!
Colin :-]
Skype focus_66

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Re: dropbox

[Scott E. Ford]

Hello everyone,
I get to drop box by opening the mac hd then going down to my user 
opening  the folder then going to drop box and opening that as well.  I then 
see my public, and any files and folders that I have created.  I am not sure 
this is what you all are trying to do, however I find this very painless.  I 
hope that this can help.
Scott

On Aug 13, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote:

> Here's how I get to the dropbox menu.  It's not ideal, but it does work.  I'm 
> using a macbook pro with a track pad.  If you're on a desktop, you'll 
> probably have to use mouse keys.
> Here are the steps.
> 1. If you're using trackpad commander, turn it off.
> 2. Go to the status menu by pressing VO-m twice.  
> 3.  Route your mouse pointer by pressing VO command f5.
> 4. Turn on control option lock with VO semicolon.
> 5. Place your finger in the upper right corner of the trackpad and slowly 
> drag it along the top edge.  Press f5 periodically to see where the mouse 
> pointer is sitting.  Eventually you will hear dropbox.  You can click the 
> mouse at that point.
> Note that you can't use VO space or return at all while in this menu.  You'll 
> have to use the clicker to confirm everything.
> HTH.
> Darcy
> 
> On 2010-08-13, at 3:27 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Is there no other way we can get to hthese status icons? I am unsure of how 
>> to write to apple regarding this oddness. Several apps require finder menues 
>> we can't access.
>> 
>> S
>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> OK, scratch that information then.  I have to say that my experience with 
>>> getting to the Dropbox icon on the status menu bar with the window chooser 
>>> menu from Finder was the first report I'd ever seen for VoiceOver, and it 
>>> was at least a year and a half ago  The "Just Notes" beta version that I 
>>> was using as a desktop counterpart for my Simplenote iPhone/iPod Touch app 
>>> also works this way.  I never bothered to update the setup after a certain 
>>> point, because it was working.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 09:54 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
 Thing is, I just went to my finder window, pressed VO+F2 twice quickly to 
 get in to the window chooser menu, and all there is is just one window.  
 That's the desk top window.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 On Aug 13, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Esther wrote:
 
> Hi Ray,
> 
> I was using window chooser menu (VO-F2 twice) from Finder.  And the entry 
> for Dropbox that I choose is "untitled" as described in my earlier post 
> -- not, as I typed here, "unknown".
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Aug 13, 2010, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> It must do because I am in my Apple Mail client and I can't find it 
>> either.  Another thing.  When I'm in the typing keybord program, (the 
>> one that makes your keyboard sound like a typewriter), there's supposed 
>> to be another menu item to the right of the help menu; but, I can never 
>> find it.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
>> 
>> E-Mail:
>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Esther wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Louie,
>>> 
>>> I set up my Dropbox account over a year and a half ago -- the "unknown" 
>>> in the Window chooser menu was a real surprise and the first time I'd 
>>> ever encountered this.  It's possible that the current installation 
>>> works differently.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 09:05 AM, louie wrote:
>>> 
 athanks I could nod find any thing call unkowned from the window 
 choser menu.
 I must have some other configuration set wrong.
 
 On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Esther wrote:
 
> Hi Louie,
> 
> To get to the Dropbox icon on your status menu bar, use window 
> chooser menu (VO-F2 twice), and choose "untitled".  Then, route your 
> mouse cursor to that location, which will be the Dropbox icon on the 
> status menu bar.  There are a couple of apps I know of that work this 
> way, where you can get around the fact that the icon on the status 
> menu is not seen by VoiceOver by using VO-F2 twice. Unfortunately (if 
> you're using more than one of these), they all identify their icon as 
> "untitled", so you have to determine whether you want the first or 
> second "untitled" in the window chooser menu list.  
> 
> Mike, Dropbox is a cross-platform file sharing program that you can 
> use to share or sync files across machines, You can also use this 
> through an app on your iPhone or iPod Touch as 

Re: niki plus

[Chris Moore]

Hello there,

Nike+ works with any treadmill, in fact you don't even need a treadmill as you 
can use it outside too.  Nike+ software is on your iPhone or iPod Nano, you 
purchase some Nike+ ready trainers and a Nike+ sensor into the left trainer 
under the inner sole.  As an alternative (and much cheaper one) you could 
download iTreadmill for your iPhone.  Personally I like the Nike+ system better 
as I do not need to keep the phone in my pocket or even touch it once I have 
started my workout.  Depending on what workout you choose, the coach gives you 
regular feedback on your progress.

Out of interest, which treadmill did you get?  I have got the York T302 which 
enables me to use the built in speakers for the iPhone and the buttons are easy 
to feel and remember.  Each press of the speed + or - buttons increases or 
decreases by 0.2 km, so its easy to work out how many presses I will need to 
hit a good walking pace of 6 km per an hour.  Prior to the Nike+ I used the 
built in timer on the iPhone so I knew how long I had been walking for, well 
that was if I was not using the phone to play music or podcasts.

Chris 
  
On 13 Aug 2010, at 18:31, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Hi Chris.
> 
> As stated I have a treadmill which is not accessible, I  an't see the menus 
> so wish to know do you think all you have bought could work on mine?  I 
> bought this Treadmill from Argus so it's a main stream one.
> 
> Kawal.
> On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:14, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> Well my Nike+ sensor arrived today £14.99) and I got my Nike+ sneakers too 
>> (Air Max Tailwind 2010) and I was up and running in no time.
>> 
>> Very easy to use, I like the calorie target mode.  You get regular prompted 
>> updates to tell you how you are doing and if you are getting close to your 
>> target.  This saves you having to look/press the screen to find out what is 
>> going on.  You then get a summary of everything at the end of your workout.
>> 
>> So far I am very happy with my purchases.
>> 
>> Chris 
>> On 12 Aug 2010, at 22:53, Nancy Badger wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm so excited!  I can actually answer a question for once instead of 
>>> asking them!  I use Niki plus and I like it a lot.   The sensor was $19.99 
>>> or something like that.  I bought the shoes at an outlet mall and they were 
>>> around $44.00.  You just have to make sure it is a "niki plus" shoe.  There 
>>> are many different types of shoes that go from reasonable to very 
>>> expensive.  When I work out I use a treadmill.  I start the niki plus and 
>>> than start the treadmill.  I like it because it gives calories burned, 
>>> distance etc.  It also has a history.  You have to calibrate it just like 
>>> if you had a pedometer.  Let me know if you have further questions.
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Re: niki plus

[Chris Moore]

Hi Michael,

I am not sure how far away the iPhone can be from the sensor in the 
sneaker/trainer.  My iPhone sits in a docking area on my treadmill, I do not 
keep it in my pocket.  Nike+ ready footwear has a small pouch located under the 
inner sole of the left trainer/sneaker.  You lift the inner sole out, gently 
remove the foam in the pocket and then replace the foam with the sensor.  You 
might want to keep the foam filler in case you want to wear the trainers when 
you are not training.  Every time you walk you are using the battery inside the 
sensor, so best to remove the sensor when you are not training, but if you only 
wear the trainers for working out then it is fine to leave the sensor in.  You 
get over 1000 hours of use, so probably about 3 years or so.

I hope this answers your questions.

Chris 
On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:31, Michael Thurman wrote:

> can you please explain what you get with the nikee shoes? does the sensor fit 
> into the shoe in a special pouch or something do you have to put the i phone 
> in a pocket too, or can you leave it connected to your stereo or whatever 
> across the room? or via bluetooth. if I get an I phone I will get the bt 
> dongle for my home theater reciever as well and might the nikee sensor  
> sounds like fun!
> On Aug 13, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> Well my Nike+ sensor arrived today £14.99) and I got my Nike+ sneakers too 
>> (Air Max Tailwind 2010) and I was up and running in no time.
>> 
>> Very easy to use, I like the calorie target mode.  You get regular prompted 
>> updates to tell you how you are doing and if you are getting close to your 
>> target.  This saves you having to look/press the screen to find out what is 
>> going on.  You then get a summary of everything at the end of your workout.
>> 
>> So far I am very happy with my purchases.
>> 
>> Chris 
>> On 12 Aug 2010, at 22:53, Nancy Badger wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm so excited!  I can actually answer a question for once instead of 
>>> asking them!  I use Niki plus and I like it a lot.   The sensor was $19.99 
>>> or something like that.  I bought the shoes at an outlet mall and they were 
>>> around $44.00.  You just have to make sure it is a "niki plus" shoe.  There 
>>> are many different types of shoes that go from reasonable to very 
>>> expensive.  When I work out I use a treadmill.  I start the niki plus and 
>>> than start the treadmill.  I like it because it gives calories burned, 
>>> distance etc.  It also has a history.  You have to calibrate it just like 
>>> if you had a pedometer.  Let me know if you have further questions.
>>> Nancy
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Re: niki plus

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi Chris.

That's excellent.  I've got the Roger Black Gold medal and now all I have to do 
is order the Sensor and shoes.  If you can tell me where to get these items, if 
the shoes are one size as my feet are small.  I'm a 37 (sorry for he list to 
say this) but I need to know everything before I buy so that's why I'm telling 
you Chris.  So, do I have to connect the sensor to my I phone and do I just 
press the screen on the treadmill to get to know what is happening?

Thanks chris, that will be appreciated.

Kawal.

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> Hello there,
> 
> Nike+ works with any treadmill, in fact you don't even need a treadmill as 
> you can use it outside too.  Nike+ software is on your iPhone or iPod Nano, 
> you purchase some Nike+ ready trainers and a Nike+ sensor into the left 
> trainer under the inner sole.  As an alternative (and much cheaper one) you 
> could download iTreadmill for your iPhone.  Personally I like the Nike+ 
> system better as I do not need to keep the phone in my pocket or even touch 
> it once I have started my workout.  Depending on what workout you choose, the 
> coach gives you regular feedback on your progress.
> 
> Out of interest, which treadmill did you get?  I have got the York T302 which 
> enables me to use the built in speakers for the iPhone and the buttons are 
> easy to feel and remember.  Each press of the speed + or - buttons increases 
> or decreases by 0.2 km, so its easy to work out how many presses I will need 
> to hit a good walking pace of 6 km per an hour.  Prior to the Nike+ I used 
> the built in timer on the iPhone so I knew how long I had been walking for, 
> well that was if I was not using the phone to play music or podcasts.
> 
> Chris 
> 
> On 13 Aug 2010, at 18:31, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chris.
>> 
>> As stated I have a treadmill which is not accessible, I  an't see the menus 
>> so wish to know do you think all you have bought could work on mine?  I 
>> bought this Treadmill from Argus so it's a main stream one.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:14, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> Well my Nike+ sensor arrived today £14.99) and I got my Nike+ sneakers too 
>>> (Air Max Tailwind 2010) and I was up and running in no time.
>>> 
>>> Very easy to use, I like the calorie target mode.  You get regular prompted 
>>> updates to tell you how you are doing and if you are getting close to your 
>>> target.  This saves you having to look/press the screen to find out what is 
>>> going on.  You then get a summary of everything at the end of your workout.
>>> 
>>> So far I am very happy with my purchases.
>>> 
>>> Chris 
>>> On 12 Aug 2010, at 22:53, Nancy Badger wrote:
>>> 
 I'm so excited!  I can actually answer a question for once instead of 
 asking them!  I use Niki plus and I like it a lot.   The sensor was $19.99 
 or something like that.  I bought the shoes at an outlet mall and they 
 were around $44.00.  You just have to make sure it is a "niki plus" shoe.  
 There are many different types of shoes that go from reasonable to very 
 expensive.  When I work out I use a treadmill.  I start the niki plus and 
 than start the treadmill.  I like it because it gives calories burned, 
 distance etc.  It also has a history.  You have to calibrate it just like 
 if you had a pedometer.  Let me know if you have further questions.
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Re: Interesting problem with used Mac book

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Incase people are reading this from the archives, every macbook / mbp
contains an intel chip meaning that they should all work with sl.

On 14/08/2010, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> Isn't it awesome to be able to install the operating system without sighted
> help? Does this macbook have the multitouch track pad? If not, you could get
> the magic track pad.
> On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:28 AM, Rich Ring wrote:
>
>> I don't know why the lol, but that was the problem.  I have another Snow
>> Leopard CD and it will work.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Sarah Alawami" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 6:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: Interesting problem with used Mac book
>>
>>
>> lol. you read my mind! I was thinking the poster had an oem disk if that's
>>
>> the term I'm looking fore.
>>
>> Take care.
>>
>> S
>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 4:52 AM, Bob Hill wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It seems that there were two SL versions sold, one was a single
>>> installation version, and the other could be installed on more than one
>>> machine, but I don't remember how many.
>>>
>>> Sorry I don't have more details, but hopefully this will get you started.
>>>
>>> Take care.
>>>
>>> Bob Hill
>>>
>>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Rich Ring wrote:
>>>
 My fiance purchased a used Mac Book.  It is currently running Mac Os
 10.5..8.  Our idea was to install Snow Leopard, after erasing the hard
 drive.  When we boot from the Snow Leopard CDD,  we are informed that we
 can't install Snow Leopard on this machine and are offered the
 opportunity
 to restart.  This machine is almost two years old, but I can't
 understand
 why you couldn't install Snow Leopard on it.  Does anyone out there have

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renaming my macbook

[Allison Manzino]

Hi everyone,

Someone recently posted a question about erasing data on a used  macbook. Even 
though mine is new I got to thinking. Can I rename my Macbook? I read lots of 
forums and know I can easily create a new user account as an administrator 
under system prefs  under accounts. If I change the name of the computer under 
sharing will that affect the home folder? Also if  I create a new admin 
account, how do I copy all my stuff  from  my current account over? Can I use 
TIme Machine? I think I just need to copy the home user folder
 over to the new account. Is what I have stated correct? My Macbook has my 
first name, last name dashes and it's just so long. Thank you for any 
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Re: niki plus

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

hello;  any idea if there is something similar i could use on my  
recumbant bike?  it would have to work with my macbook as i don't have  
an iphone or ipod touch and don't see one in my near future. any  
suggestions would be appreciated.  thanks, max

On Aug 14, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Chris Moore wrote:


Hello there,

Nike+ works with any treadmill, in fact you don't even need a  
treadmill as you can use it outside too.  Nike+ software is on your  
iPhone or iPod Nano, you purchase some Nike+ ready trainers and a  
Nike+ sensor into the left trainer under the inner sole.  As an  
alternative (and much cheaper one) you could download iTreadmill for  
your iPhone.  Personally I like the Nike+ system better as I do not  
need to keep the phone in my pocket or even touch it once I have  
started my workout.  Depending on what workout you choose, the coach  
gives you regular feedback on your progress.


Out of interest, which treadmill did you get?  I have got the York  
T302 which enables me to use the built in speakers for the iPhone  
and the buttons are easy to feel and remember.  Each press of the  
speed + or - buttons increases or decreases by 0.2 km, so its easy  
to work out how many presses I will need to hit a good walking pace  
of 6 km per an hour.  Prior to the Nike+ I used the built in timer  
on the iPhone so I knew how long I had been walking for, well that  
was if I was not using the phone to play music or podcasts.


Chris

On 13 Aug 2010, at 18:31, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:


Hi Chris.

As stated I have a treadmill which is not accessible, I  an't see  
the menus so wish to know do you think all you have bought could  
work on mine?  I bought this Treadmill from Argus so it's a main  
stream one.


Kawal.
On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:14, Chris Moore wrote:

Well my Nike+ sensor arrived today £14.99) and I got my Nike+  
sneakers too (Air Max Tailwind 2010) and I was up and running in  
no time.


Very easy to use, I like the calorie target mode.  You get regular  
prompted updates to tell you how you are doing and if you are  
getting close to your target.  This saves you having to look/press  
the screen to find out what is going on.  You then get a summary  
of everything at the end of your workout.


So far I am very happy with my purchases.

Chris
On 12 Aug 2010, at 22:53, Nancy Badger wrote:

I'm so excited!  I can actually answer a question for once  
instead of asking them!  I use Niki plus and I like it a lot.
The sensor was $19.99 or something like that.  I bought the shoes  
at an outlet mall and they were around $44.00.  You just have to  
make sure it is a "niki plus" shoe.  There are many different  
types of shoes that go from reasonable to very expensive.  When I  
work out I use a treadmill.  I start the niki plus and than start  
the treadmill.  I like it because it gives calories burned,  
distance etc.  It also has a history.  You have to calibrate it  
just like if you had a pedometer.  Let me know if you have  
further questions.

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Re: renaming my macbook

[Pete Nalda]

The Computer name is independent from the administrator User Name.  The 
computer name really only applies to what the machine will be known as on a 
network.  The home folder is usually named by default as the user name (If I'm 
wrong on this I stand corrected).  But yeah the computer name only has to do 
with networking or sharing.

On Aug 14, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Someone recently posted a question about erasing data on a used  macbook. 
> Even though mine is new I got to thinking. Can I rename my Macbook? I read 
> lots of forums and know I can easily create a new user account as an 
> administrator under system prefs  under accounts. If I change the name of the 
> computer under sharing will that affect the home folder? Also if  I create a 
> new admin account, how do I copy all my stuff  from  my current account over? 
> Can I use TIme Machine? I think I just need to copy the home user folder
> over to the new account. Is what I have stated correct? My Macbook has my 
> first name, last name dashes and it's just so long. Thank you for any 
> assistance you can provide.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Allison
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dropbox

[louie]

Hi all,
I have a way to get the information from dropbox. You can not get a menu from 
the dropbox application.
What you can do is go to your dropbox folder and do a VO + shift + m.
This will give you a menu. One of the choices is dropbox there is a submenu.
Check it out.

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Re: dropbox

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Yes, but can you get information such as current uploads and their rates? 
That's what I'm mostly interested in. That's what we're missing for the most 
part, I think. That's what shows on the status as well, which we currently 
cannot get to I believe.

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On Aug 14, 2010, at 8:34 PM, louie wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have a way to get the information from dropbox. You can not get a menu from 
> the dropbox application.
> What you can do is go to your dropbox folder and do a VO + shift + m.
> This will give you a menu. One of the choices is dropbox there is a submenu.
> Check it out.
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Re: dropbox

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You will have to check it out and let us know.

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> Hi,
> 
> Yes, but can you get information such as current uploads and their rates? 
> That's what I'm mostly interested in. That's what we're missing for the most 
> part, I think. That's what shows on the status as well, which we currently 
> cannot get to I believe.
> 
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> 
>> Hi all,
>> I have a way to get the information from dropbox. You can not get a menu 
>> from the dropbox application.
>> What you can do is go to your dropbox folder and do a VO + shift + m.
>> This will give you a menu. One of the choices is dropbox there is a submenu.
>> Check it out.
>> 
>> louie
>> louiem...@wavecable.com
>> 
>> 
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Getting started with the Finder.

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings all,

I tend to learn better from poking around and RTFMing rather than podcasts. 
I'm into Chapter 3 of the VoiceOver getting started guide (URL: 
http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ ) and am sure I'm making things 
much more complecated and am not interpreting the text correctly, but right 
now it feels as though FireSign Theater best summed it up in their ancient 
lp: "you can't get there from here".


Once I get past this the rest will hopefully start falling into place, but I 
finally reached the point where I need to seek advice here, so for those who 
want to follow me in the manual as I try and locate the Skype file I 
recently downloaded, here goes:


I will qquote the manual and then delineate my comments with my initials 
(GLW).


The text reads:
quote
Note:The instructions below assume that cursor tracking is on, and the 
VoiceOver cursor and keyboard focus are tracking each other.

To open a Finder window:
Move to the Dock by pressing VO-D or, if you're using VoiceOver gestures, 
double-tap near the bottom edge of the trackpad. Then navigate to the 
Finder, which is the first item in the Dock.

Unquote
GLW I verified the suggested settings.  VO+D and selecting the first item 
works however the trackpad command does not.  I closed all active Windows 
and took VO focus to the desktop. VO+F1 outputs: "finder. 1 running 
application".  When I tap near the bottom of my trackpad, VO emits the sound 
associated with either boundry reached or "command not supported".


Returning to text:
Quote:
Open the Application Chooser by pressing VO-F1-F1 or, if you're using 
VoiceOver gestures, double-tap near the left edge of the trackpad. Choose 
Finder in the Application Chooser.

Unquote.
GLW The Application chooser works but again from the desktop with no other 
apps open tapping the left edge of my trackpad only emits the out of bounds 
bonk.


Quote:
You can also use Mac OS X shortcuts by pressing Command-Tab and then using 
the arrow keys to navigate to the Finder.

Unquote
GLW Command+tab causes VO to announce: "finder", but I can not navigate with 
either the arrows or VO+arrow keys at this point.  Command+w has no affect, 
but then the manual states that the Finder is always active.


Quote
If a Finder window was open, you go to that window. Otherwise, you go to the 
desktop. In that case, go to the menu bar by pressing VO-M or, if you're 
using VoiceOver gestures, double-tapping near the top edge of the trackpad. 
Then use the Right Arrow key to navigate to the Finder menu.

Unquote
GLW From that Window I cannot navigate with the arrows, VO+M places me in 
the finder menu, but the initial screen is nothing like what is presented 
when I press VO+d and select the first dock item.  And again pressing near 
the top of my trackpad emits the "command not supported" tone.


So far I have workarounds, but after I select list view from the toolbar's 
view radio group, the real fun begins.


Quote
When you have selected a view, stop interacting with the view radio group 
and the toolbar, and then press VO-Right Arrow to move through the window 
until you hear "sidebar."
To move down the list of items in the sidebar, press VO-Down Arrow. When you 
hear the item you want, jump to it in the view browser; you can interact 
with it.
To jump, press VO-J. If you're using VoiceOver gestures, keep a finger on 
the trackpad and press the Control key.

Unquote
GLW I quit interacting with the toolbar and press vo+right arrow.  VO 
announces sidebar as a table, and since the arrow keys have no affect I 
interact with it.  The first item (Macintosh hd) is clearly what I want.  If 
I press vo+down arrow I immediately receive the "finder critical alert" 
dialog prompting me to set up a MobileMe account.  If I try and explore with 
my trackpad and land there that dialog again pops up.  VO+j does get me to 
the list view as does the control key while touching the trackpad (assuming 
I don't accidently flick to MobileMe).  I can then expand my account name, 
interact with the resulting table, and interact with downloads to find my 
Skype file.


But it seems that depending on what I do in my list view, I may have a 
different selection active in the sidebar, which means I again have to try 
and avoid the MobileMe setup while treversing the table.


I realize that there are many former Windows users here, so this can't be 
nearly as cumbersome as I made it.  Right now it seems that it takes about 
fifty steps to accomplish what I've been doing by pressing Windows+e and 
selecting a drive and folder.  I am taking into account that anything new 
will seem harder and maybe I've got the navigation steps right and they just 
become second nature?


If you got this far thanks for your patients and any comments you're willing 
to share.
Geoff 


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Re: Suggestion for making a great VO feature even better.

[Michael Busboom]

Hi. 

When I started this thread, I wasn't thinking of the key click feature.  
Actually, I would never use it.  However, in order to help the accessibility 
people at Apple, would it be fair to say that the key clicks you envisage would 
sound like the ones that the Mac gives us when we enter secure passwords?  I 
rather like the fact that these key clicks are issued.

Best to all,

Mike

On 13,Aug,2010, at 9:09 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> lol. tha'ts tprobably why I type very hard, eather that or it's my piano 
> playing that causes me to type hard. lol!
> 
> 
> On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> exactly! jut have them add it to the typing echo place in the verbosity 
>> settings. a really fast click would be nice as laptop keyboard are very 
>> quiet. those of us who learned to type on an IBM selectric or other electric 
>> typewriters before we had computers would appreciate it.. wnat t make it 
>> very fancy, record an ibm selectric   it isn't tactile feedback but it would 
>> be handy I sometimes miss letters if I type too softly and too quickly
>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> yeah true. Hmm I dunno. Maybe a click not a cherp, like a typing sound 
>>> maybe?
>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 well of course you could turn it on or off  I'm thinking of a slight click 
 nt abeep or chirp and anyone could turn the sound on or off at will :)
 On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> I agree. Although the chirp is a good one I too asan end user would feel 
> overwhelmed whenit comes to noises.
> 
> S
> On Aug 5, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> Hello Michael,
>> 
>> Although I do not know how this feature would help, who am I to say that 
>> it wouldn't.  There are a couple of things, however, that one must keep 
>> in mind.
>> 
>> 1.  There is already some feedback from keyboard entry in the form of 
>> tones.  For example when Caps Lock is activated, you get beeps to 
>> indicate this.
>> 
>> 2.  When attempting to enter information in an area information can't be 
>> entered, the keyboard "chirps."
>> 
>> My concern is that if every single key clicked, then beeped when the 
>> Caps Lock is on, etc., the user might be overwhelmed with too much 
>> feedback.  When I originally brought up the idea of having VO emit an 
>> error tone after a word had been written, I wasn't thinking about 
>> anything else than preserving a silent typing environment but still 
>> being notified right away when a word was mis-spelled.  To my way of 
>> thinking, this would speed up the editing process for everyone who 
>> wanted to use it and, for those of us who work in multilingual 
>> environments, it would be a great way for the Mac to say: "Hey, you may 
>> want to switch your keyboard to another language!"  I have accidentally 
>> written several paragraphs before discovering that I was writing German 
>> texts but hadn't switched my keyboard over to that keyboard layout.  Had 
>> this feature that I want been available, I would have saved myself tons 
>> of time and grief more than once.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> On 5,Aug,2010, at 2:53 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> this brings an idea  to mind. I used to have an atari st that had a 
>>> very soft click or chirp when keys were pressed I wonder if we could 
>>> get a very very light click sound that would sound on each keypress. to 
>>> be useful ti would have to be very quiet, preferably adjustable, or let 
>>> you select what sound you want it to use, for me a very soft tick like 
>>> you would hear from an old ibm tactile keyboard would be awesome
>>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
 Please file this as a request. I think this is a very good idea and 
 one that needs to be implemented. I for one would like it and I will 
 also make the request again. :)
 
 Thanks,
 On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
 
> Hello everyone,
> Before submitting this feature request to the accessibility team at 
> Apple, I was curious if (1) it is implemented already and (2) what 
> others thought.
> 
> I work in a multilingual context daily.  I am very satisfied with my 
> text-to-speech software, too.  However, I occasionally have this 
> annoying problem that wouldn't be a problem if one of VO's features 
> could be enhanced just a bit.
> 
> Whenever I type, I keep all keyboard echo features turned off.  This 
> means that I only hear text when I move the arrow keys or invoke a VO 
> function that causes something to be spoken.  I find that I make a 

Re: alternative vm software

[Mike Arrigo]

If you want the fastest windows experience, boot camp is the way to go, since 
all of the processor and memory resources are devoted to windows when using it. 
VMware fusion currently is the only accessible virtualization package for the 
mac, if you give us more details, we might be able to figure out why it's so 
slow for you. From what I've heard, parallels is actually faster than fusion, 
but since it's not accessible, and the company is unwilling to correct this, we 
can't do much with it.
On Aug 14, 2010, at 3:10 AM, chad baker wrote:

> Hi is there any alternative virtual machine software besides fusion?
> I'm finding it real sluggish.
> I wish virtualbox was accessible.
> I want to try bootcamp but i don't have anyone sighted around.
> Is there a work around or no?
> thanks
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Re: renaming my macbook

[Mike Arrigo]

You can rename the computer itself in the sharing part os system preferences. I 
think you can change the name that is displayed, but to actually change the 
name of the account, you would need to create a new one, which may be more 
trouble than it's worth.
On Aug 14, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Someone recently posted a question about erasing data on a used  macbook. 
> Even though mine is new I got to thinking. Can I rename my Macbook? I read 
> lots of forums and know I can easily create a new user account as an 
> administrator under system prefs  under accounts. If I change the name of the 
> computer under sharing will that affect the home folder? Also if  I create a 
> new admin account, how do I copy all my stuff  from  my current account over? 
> Can I use TIme Machine? I think I just need to copy the home user folder
> over to the new account. Is what I have stated correct? My Macbook has my 
> first name, last name dashes and it's just so long. Thank you for any 
> assistance you can provide.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Allison
> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
> 
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Re: Suggestion for making a great VO feature even better.

[Sarah Alawami]

No! no! no! that might confused the heck out of me. I would not want it 
sounding like I'm entering in a password all the time. Maybe a quiet ping or 
something.

S
On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Michael Busboom wrote:

> Hi. 
> 
> When I started this thread, I wasn't thinking of the key click feature.  
> Actually, I would never use it.  However, in order to help the accessibility 
> people at Apple, would it be fair to say that the key clicks you envisage 
> would sound like the ones that the Mac gives us when we enter secure 
> passwords?  I rather like the fact that these key clicks are issued.
> 
> Best to all,
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 13,Aug,2010, at 9:09 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> lol. tha'ts tprobably why I type very hard, eather that or it's my piano 
>> playing that causes me to type hard. lol!
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> exactly! jut have them add it to the typing echo place in the verbosity 
>>> settings. a really fast click would be nice as laptop keyboard are very 
>>> quiet. those of us who learned to type on an IBM selectric or other 
>>> electric typewriters before we had computers would appreciate it.. wnat t 
>>> make it very fancy, record an ibm selectric   it isn't tactile feedback but 
>>> it would be handy I sometimes miss letters if I type too softly and too 
>>> quickly
>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 yeah true. Hmm I dunno. Maybe a click not a cherp, like a typing sound 
 maybe?
 On Aug 5, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
> well of course you could turn it on or off  I'm thinking of a slight 
> click nt abeep or chirp and anyone could turn the sound on or off at will 
> :)
> On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> I agree. Although the chirp is a good one I too asan end user would feel 
>> overwhelmed whenit comes to noises.
>> 
>> S
>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Michael,
>>> 
>>> Although I do not know how this feature would help, who am I to say 
>>> that it wouldn't.  There are a couple of things, however, that one must 
>>> keep in mind.
>>> 
>>> 1.  There is already some feedback from keyboard entry in the form of 
>>> tones.  For example when Caps Lock is activated, you get beeps to 
>>> indicate this.
>>> 
>>> 2.  When attempting to enter information in an area information can't 
>>> be entered, the keyboard "chirps."
>>> 
>>> My concern is that if every single key clicked, then beeped when the 
>>> Caps Lock is on, etc., the user might be overwhelmed with too much 
>>> feedback.  When I originally brought up the idea of having VO emit an 
>>> error tone after a word had been written, I wasn't thinking about 
>>> anything else than preserving a silent typing environment but still 
>>> being notified right away when a word was mis-spelled.  To my way of 
>>> thinking, this would speed up the editing process for everyone who 
>>> wanted to use it and, for those of us who work in multilingual 
>>> environments, it would be a great way for the Mac to say: "Hey, you may 
>>> want to switch your keyboard to another language!"  I have accidentally 
>>> written several paragraphs before discovering that I was writing German 
>>> texts but hadn't switched my keyboard over to that keyboard layout.  
>>> Had this feature that I want been available, I would have saved myself 
>>> tons of time and grief more than once.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 5,Aug,2010, at 2:53 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 this brings an idea  to mind. I used to have an atari st that had a 
 very soft click or chirp when keys were pressed I wonder if we could 
 get a very very light click sound that would sound on each keypress. 
 to be useful ti would have to be very quiet, preferably adjustable, or 
 let you select what sound you want it to use, for me a very soft tick 
 like you would hear from an old ibm tactile keyboard would be awesome
 
 On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
> Please file this as a request. I think this is a very good idea and 
> one that needs to be implemented. I for one would like it and I will 
> also make the request again. :)
> 
> Thanks,
> On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> Before submitting this feature request to the accessibility team at 
>> Apple, I was curious if (1) it is implemented already and (2) what 
>> others thought.
>> 
>> I work in a multilingual context daily.  I am very satisfied with my 
>> text-to-speech software, too.  However, I occasionally have this 
>> annoying problem that w

Re: Getting started with the Finder.

[Sarah Alawami]

Ok let's make it simpler Just do vo shift d to get to he finder then hit cmd 
shift h to get to your home directory. Forget entirely about the sidebar. There 
are keystrokes for changing view in the finder andi usually go cmd 2 on the 
numbers ro for list mode.

to get to your computer from wiht in the finder us cmd shift C and you can move 
up and down int eh list.

S
On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Greetings all,
> 
> I tend to learn better from poking around and RTFMing rather than podcasts. 
> I'm into Chapter 3 of the VoiceOver getting started guide (URL: 
> http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ ) and am sure I'm making things 
> much more complecated and am not interpreting the text correctly, but right 
> now it feels as though FireSign Theater best summed it up in their ancient 
> lp: "you can't get there from here".
> 
> Once I get past this the rest will hopefully start falling into place, but I 
> finally reached the point where I need to seek advice here, so for those who 
> want to follow me in the manual as I try and locate the Skype file I recently 
> downloaded, here goes:
> 
> I will qquote the manual and then delineate my comments with my initials 
> (GLW).
> 
> The text reads:
> quote
> Note:The instructions below assume that cursor tracking is on, and the 
> VoiceOver cursor and keyboard focus are tracking each other.
> To open a Finder window:
> Move to the Dock by pressing VO-D or, if you're using VoiceOver gestures, 
> double-tap near the bottom edge of the trackpad. Then navigate to the Finder, 
> which is the first item in the Dock.
> Unquote
> GLW I verified the suggested settings.  VO+D and selecting the first item 
> works however the trackpad command does not.  I closed all active Windows and 
> took VO focus to the desktop. VO+F1 outputs: "finder. 1 running application". 
>  When I tap near the bottom of my trackpad, VO emits the sound associated 
> with either boundry reached or "command not supported".
> 
> Returning to text:
> Quote:
> Open the Application Chooser by pressing VO-F1-F1 or, if you're using 
> VoiceOver gestures, double-tap near the left edge of the trackpad. Choose 
> Finder in the Application Chooser.
> Unquote.
> GLW The Application chooser works but again from the desktop with no other 
> apps open tapping the left edge of my trackpad only emits the out of bounds 
> bonk.
> 
> Quote:
> You can also use Mac OS X shortcuts by pressing Command-Tab and then using 
> the arrow keys to navigate to the Finder.
> Unquote
> GLW Command+tab causes VO to announce: "finder", but I can not navigate with 
> either the arrows or VO+arrow keys at this point.  Command+w has no affect, 
> but then the manual states that the Finder is always active.
> 
> Quote
> If a Finder window was open, you go to that window. Otherwise, you go to the 
> desktop. In that case, go to the menu bar by pressing VO-M or, if you're 
> using VoiceOver gestures, double-tapping near the top edge of the trackpad. 
> Then use the Right Arrow key to navigate to the Finder menu.
> Unquote
> GLW From that Window I cannot navigate with the arrows, VO+M places me in the 
> finder menu, but the initial screen is nothing like what is presented when I 
> press VO+d and select the first dock item.  And again pressing near the top 
> of my trackpad emits the "command not supported" tone.
> 
> So far I have workarounds, but after I select list view from the toolbar's 
> view radio group, the real fun begins.
> 
> Quote
> When you have selected a view, stop interacting with the view radio group and 
> the toolbar, and then press VO-Right Arrow to move through the window until 
> you hear "sidebar."
> To move down the list of items in the sidebar, press VO-Down Arrow. When you 
> hear the item you want, jump to it in the view browser; you can interact with 
> it.
> To jump, press VO-J. If you're using VoiceOver gestures, keep a finger on the 
> trackpad and press the Control key.
> Unquote
> GLW I quit interacting with the toolbar and press vo+right arrow.  VO 
> announces sidebar as a table, and since the arrow keys have no affect I 
> interact with it.  The first item (Macintosh hd) is clearly what I want.  If 
> I press vo+down arrow I immediately receive the "finder critical alert" 
> dialog prompting me to set up a MobileMe account.  If I try and explore with 
> my trackpad and land there that dialog again pops up.  VO+j does get me to 
> the list view as does the control key while touching the trackpad (assuming I 
> don't accidently flick to MobileMe).  I can then expand my account name, 
> interact with the resulting table, and interact with downloads to find my 
> Skype file.
> 
> But it seems that depending on what I do in my list view, I may have a 
> different selection active in the sidebar, which means I again have to try 
> and avoid the MobileMe setup while treversing the table.
> 
> I realize that there are many former Windows users here, so this can't be 
> nearly as cu

Re: dropbox

[Sarah Alawami]

but you cannot see the files modified, the files status and such.

Take care.

S
On Aug 14, 2010, at 11:34 AM, louie wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have a way to get the information from dropbox. You can not get a menu from 
> the dropbox application.
> What you can do is go to your dropbox folder and do a VO + shift + m.
> This will give you a menu. One of the choices is dropbox there is a submenu.
> Check it out.
> 
> louie
> louiem...@wavecable.com
> 
> 
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RE: anything to switch bluetooth connections?

[Simon Fogarty]

How useable is SL server? I thought it was next to not accessible.

 

Is this not  correct.

 

simon

 

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Subject: Re: anything to switch bluetooth connections?

 

Sounds like a good solution. Going to experiment a bit on these as this is
my second day with the kb and waiting on the mac mini to arrive.

 

Sl server is SL with more functions for networking thats about it. But when
you got loads of media and a dedicated ip there's some fun stuff that can be
done 

 

 

Thanks for the suggestion 

 

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Re: alternative vm software

[Thuy Mallalieu]

I have compared Parallels and Fusion and have found the latter to be way 
faster. I think there must be an issue with his config because mine was very 
fast even with its default Ram allocation of 512.

Sent from my iPhone

On 14/08/2010, at 21:11, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

> If you want the fastest windows experience, boot camp is the way to go, since 
> all of the processor and memory resources are devoted to windows when using 
> it. VMware fusion currently is the only accessible virtualization package for 
> the mac, if you give us more details, we might be able to figure out why it's 
> so slow for you. From what I've heard, parallels is actually faster than 
> fusion, but since it's not accessible, and the company is unwilling to 
> correct this, we can't do much with it.
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 3:10 AM, chad baker wrote:
> 
>> Hi is there any alternative virtual machine software besides fusion?
>> I'm finding it real sluggish.
>> I wish virtualbox was accessible.
>> I want to try bootcamp but i don't have anyone sighted around.
>> Is there a work around or no?
>> thanks
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Re: Getting started with the Finder.

[erik burggraaf]

Uh, well that's a bit verbose.  Here's my version.  It's a bit wordy too, but 
contains more actual information.

Two ways to get to finder, which as you have observed is always open.
One, hold down the commend key and press tab until you hear finder,
or two, Press control Option D to get to the dock.
Press f for finder and then press enter.

I tend to ignore the sidebar and stick to the file browser.

When you enter a finder window you should land directly on the file browser.
Press command shift H to go to the home folder.
Type dow to get  to the downloads folder. then type sky to go to your skype 
file.

How you navigate the file browser depends slightly on your personal 
preferences.  You can change the view of the file browser from icon to list to 
column by pressing command 1, command two, and command 3 respectively.  The 
browser behaves differently in all three modes, and you will want to choose the 
one that makes you most comfortable.

Personally, I like column mode, command 3.  In this mode, up and down arrows 
take you through the list of contents of the currently open folder, while left 
and right arrows collapse and expand folders.

Backing up completely and taking another totally different direction, you can 
easily get to your skype file by pressing command space to bring up the 
spotlight, typing skype, and then arrowing down to the file and pressing enter.

Hope this helps,

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On 2010-08-14, at 4:02 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Greetings all,
> 
> I tend to learn better from poking around and RTFMing rather than podcasts. 
> I'm into Chapter 3 of the VoiceOver getting started guide (URL: 
> http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ ) and am sure I'm making things 
> much more complecated and am not interpreting the text correctly, but right 
> now it feels as though FireSign Theater best summed it up in their ancient 
> lp: "you can't get there from here".
> 
> Once I get past this the rest will hopefully start falling into place, but I 
> finally reached the point where I need to seek advice here, so for those who 
> want to follow me in the manual as I try and locate the Skype file I recently 
> downloaded, here goes:
> 
> I will qquote the manual and then delineate my comments with my initials 
> (GLW).
> 
> The text reads:
> quote
> Note:The instructions below assume that cursor tracking is on, and the 
> VoiceOver cursor and keyboard focus are tracking each other.
> To open a Finder window:
> Move to the Dock by pressing VO-D or, if you're using VoiceOver gestures, 
> double-tap near the bottom edge of the trackpad. Then navigate to the Finder, 
> which is the first item in the Dock.
> Unquote
> GLW I verified the suggested settings.  VO+D and selecting the first item 
> works however the trackpad command does not.  I closed all active Windows and 
> took VO focus to the desktop. VO+F1 outputs: "finder. 1 running application". 
>  When I tap near the bottom of my trackpad, VO emits the sound associated 
> with either boundry reached or "command not supported".
> 
> Returning to text:
> Quote:
> Open the Application Chooser by pressing VO-F1-F1 or, if you're using 
> VoiceOver gestures, double-tap near the left edge of the trackpad. Choose 
> Finder in the Application Chooser.
> Unquote.
> GLW The Application chooser works but again from the desktop with no other 
> apps open tapping the left edge of my trackpad only emits the out of bounds 
> bonk.
> 
> Quote:
> You can also use Mac OS X shortcuts by pressing Command-Tab and then using 
> the arrow keys to navigate to the Finder.
> Unquote
> GLW Command+tab causes VO to announce: "finder", but I can not navigate with 
> either the arrows or VO+arrow keys at this point.  Command+w has no affect, 
> but then the manual states that the Finder is always active.
> 
> Quote
> If a Finder window was open, you go to that window. Otherwise, you go to the 
> desktop. In that case, go to the menu bar by pressing VO-M or, if you're 
> using VoiceOver gestures, double-tapping near the top edge of the trackpad. 
> Then use the Right Arrow key to navigate to the Finder menu.
> Unquote
> GLW From that Window I cannot navigate with the arrows, VO+M places me in the 
> finder menu, but the initial screen is nothing like what is presented when I 
> press VO+d and select the first dock item.  And again pressing near the top 
> of my trackpad emits the "command not supported" tone.
> 
> So far I have workarounds, but after I select list view from the toolbar's 
> view radio group, the real fun begins.
> 
> Quote
> When you have selected a view, stop interacting with the view radio group and 
> the toolbar, and then press VO-Right Arrow to move through the window until 
> you hear "sidebar."
> To move down the list of items in the sidebar, press VO-Down Arrow. When you 
> hear the i

Problems getting my Focus 40 BLue working with VO

[Kevin Fjelsted]

I can successfully connect my FOcus 40 BLue via USB however I do not
get any mirroring. It happened once and then never again so the
problem is very duplicatable. I can enter Braille from the keyboard
and use the various buttons, wheels, and rocker bars on the Focus. Has
anyone experienced this problem? COnversely if anyone is successfully
using the FOcus what firmware version are you using?
-Kevin

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Re: Suggestion for making a great VO feature even better.

[Scott Howell]

How about no sound at all. Surely you will know when your pressing the keys. 
THe sound would become distracting and the entire point is silence not noise.
On Aug 14, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> No! no! no! that might confused the heck out of me. I would not want it 
> sounding like I'm entering in a password all the time. Maybe a quiet ping or 
> something.
> 
> S
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> Hi. 
>> 
>> When I started this thread, I wasn't thinking of the key click feature.  
>> Actually, I would never use it.  However, in order to help the accessibility 
>> people at Apple, would it be fair to say that the key clicks you envisage 
>> would sound like the ones that the Mac gives us when we enter secure 
>> passwords?  I rather like the fact that these key clicks are issued.
>> 
>> Best to all,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> On 13,Aug,2010, at 9:09 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> lol. tha'ts tprobably why I type very hard, eather that or it's my piano 
>>> playing that causes me to type hard. lol!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 exactly! jut have them add it to the typing echo place in the verbosity 
 settings. a really fast click would be nice as laptop keyboard are very 
 quiet. those of us who learned to type on an IBM selectric or other 
 electric typewriters before we had computers would appreciate it.. wnat t 
 make it very fancy, record an ibm selectric   it isn't tactile feedback 
 but it would be handy I sometimes miss letters if I type too softly and 
 too quickly
 On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> yeah true. Hmm I dunno. Maybe a click not a cherp, like a typing sound 
> maybe?
> On Aug 5, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> well of course you could turn it on or off  I'm thinking of a slight 
>> click nt abeep or chirp and anyone could turn the sound on or off at 
>> will :)
>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree. Although the chirp is a good one I too asan end user would 
>>> feel overwhelmed whenit comes to noises.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Michael,
 
 Although I do not know how this feature would help, who am I to say 
 that it wouldn't.  There are a couple of things, however, that one 
 must keep in mind.
 
 1.  There is already some feedback from keyboard entry in the form of 
 tones.  For example when Caps Lock is activated, you get beeps to 
 indicate this.
 
 2.  When attempting to enter information in an area information can't 
 be entered, the keyboard "chirps."
 
 My concern is that if every single key clicked, then beeped when the 
 Caps Lock is on, etc., the user might be overwhelmed with too much 
 feedback.  When I originally brought up the idea of having VO emit an 
 error tone after a word had been written, I wasn't thinking about 
 anything else than preserving a silent typing environment but still 
 being notified right away when a word was mis-spelled.  To my way of 
 thinking, this would speed up the editing process for everyone who 
 wanted to use it and, for those of us who work in multilingual 
 environments, it would be a great way for the Mac to say: "Hey, you 
 may want to switch your keyboard to another language!"  I have 
 accidentally written several paragraphs before discovering that I was 
 writing German texts but hadn't switched my keyboard over to that 
 keyboard layout.  Had this feature that I want been available, I would 
 have saved myself tons of time and grief more than once.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Mike
 
 On 5,Aug,2010, at 2:53 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
> this brings an idea  to mind. I used to have an atari st that had a 
> very soft click or chirp when keys were pressed I wonder if we could 
> get a very very light click sound that would sound on each keypress. 
> to be useful ti would have to be very quiet, preferably adjustable, 
> or let you select what sound you want it to use, for me a very soft 
> tick like you would hear from an old ibm tactile keyboard would be 
> awesome
> 
> On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Please file this as a request. I think this is a very good idea and 
>> one that needs to be implemented. I for one would like it and I will 
>> also make the request again. :)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> Before submitting this feature request to the acces

dmg files.

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings,

Thanks to Sarah and Erik I'm more comfortable with the finder so I copied 
the SKYPE disk image file from downloads to applications and can now open it 
from there.  I gather these dmg files are executable and there's no 
installation process necessary after downloading?


Why was "cut" dimmed?  Since I copied it to applications do I now have two 
45 meg files?  I see that command+delete under the file menu is also dimmed 
so deleting from downloads does not appear to be an option.


TIA for any info about these files and best regards.
Geoff 


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Re: dmg files.

[Sarah Alawami]

Wo! no no no! don't do that!

1. open the dmg from the downloads folder. another finder window will open.

2. press cmd 2 to get to list mode.

3. copy the skype.app.

4. press cmd shift a to get to applications and paste. Now eject the dmg from 
the computer place by 

1. going to the computer list with cmd shift C.

2. find the skype.dmg

3. pressing cmd E.

Take care.
On Aug 14, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> Thanks to Sarah and Erik I'm more comfortable with the finder so I copied the 
> SKYPE disk image file from downloads to applications and can now open it from 
> there.  I gather these dmg files are executable and there's no installation 
> process necessary after downloading?
> 
> Why was "cut" dimmed?  Since I copied it to applications do I now have two 45 
> meg files?  I see that command+delete under the file menu is also dimmed so 
> deleting from downloads does not appear to be an option.
> 
> TIA for any info about these files and best regards.
> Geoff 
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Re: Suggestion for making a great VO feature even better.

[Sarah Alawami]

Actually in my case some letters don't press if I don't' press hard enough so 
in my case I leave keyboard echo on so I know if I mistyped something cause I 
though the letter pressed.

S
On Aug 14, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> How about no sound at all. Surely you will know when your pressing the keys. 
> THe sound would become distracting and the entire point is silence not noise.
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> No! no! no! that might confused the heck out of me. I would not want it 
>> sounding like I'm entering in a password all the time. Maybe a quiet ping or 
>> something.
>> 
>> S
>> On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi. 
>>> 
>>> When I started this thread, I wasn't thinking of the key click feature.  
>>> Actually, I would never use it.  However, in order to help the 
>>> accessibility people at Apple, would it be fair to say that the key clicks 
>>> you envisage would sound like the ones that the Mac gives us when we enter 
>>> secure passwords?  I rather like the fact that these key clicks are issued.
>>> 
>>> Best to all,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 13,Aug,2010, at 9:09 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 lol. tha'ts tprobably why I type very hard, eather that or it's my piano 
 playing that causes me to type hard. lol!
 
 
 On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
> exactly! jut have them add it to the typing echo place in the verbosity 
> settings. a really fast click would be nice as laptop keyboard are very 
> quiet. those of us who learned to type on an IBM selectric or other 
> electric typewriters before we had computers would appreciate it.. wnat t 
> make it very fancy, record an ibm selectric   it isn't tactile feedback 
> but it would be handy I sometimes miss letters if I type too softly and 
> too quickly
> On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> yeah true. Hmm I dunno. Maybe a click not a cherp, like a typing sound 
>> maybe?
>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> well of course you could turn it on or off  I'm thinking of a slight 
>>> click nt abeep or chirp and anyone could turn the sound on or off at 
>>> will :)
>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 I agree. Although the chirp is a good one I too asan end user would 
 feel overwhelmed whenit comes to noises.
 
 S
 On Aug 5, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
 
> Hello Michael,
> 
> Although I do not know how this feature would help, who am I to say 
> that it wouldn't.  There are a couple of things, however, that one 
> must keep in mind.
> 
> 1.  There is already some feedback from keyboard entry in the form of 
> tones.  For example when Caps Lock is activated, you get beeps to 
> indicate this.
> 
> 2.  When attempting to enter information in an area information can't 
> be entered, the keyboard "chirps."
> 
> My concern is that if every single key clicked, then beeped when the 
> Caps Lock is on, etc., the user might be overwhelmed with too much 
> feedback.  When I originally brought up the idea of having VO emit an 
> error tone after a word had been written, I wasn't thinking about 
> anything else than preserving a silent typing environment but still 
> being notified right away when a word was mis-spelled.  To my way of 
> thinking, this would speed up the editing process for everyone who 
> wanted to use it and, for those of us who work in multilingual 
> environments, it would be a great way for the Mac to say: "Hey, you 
> may want to switch your keyboard to another language!"  I have 
> accidentally written several paragraphs before discovering that I was 
> writing German texts but hadn't switched my keyboard over to that 
> keyboard layout.  Had this feature that I want been available, I 
> would have saved myself tons of time and grief more than once.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 5,Aug,2010, at 2:53 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> this brings an idea  to mind. I used to have an atari st that had a 
>> very soft click or chirp when keys were pressed I wonder if we could 
>> get a very very light click sound that would sound on each keypress. 
>> to be useful ti would have to be very quiet, preferably adjustable, 
>> or let you select what sound you want it to use, for me a very soft 
>> tick like you would hear from an old ibm tactile keyboard would be 
>> awesome
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Please file this as a request. I think this is a

Re: dropbox

[louie]

OK What I can get the % space left in my dropbox and the % space in each file 
in my dropbox.
Thats good for me.

On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> but you cannot see the files modified, the files status and such.
> 
> Take care.
> 
> S
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 11:34 AM, louie wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I have a way to get the information from dropbox. You can not get a menu 
>> from the dropbox application.
>> What you can do is go to your dropbox folder and do a VO + shift + m.
>> This will give you a menu. One of the choices is dropbox there is a submenu.
>> Check it out.
>> 
>> louie
>> louiem...@wavecable.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: dmg files.

[erik burggraaf]

Hi Geoff,

DMG viles are disk image files.  As Sarah said, you copy the appropriate .app 
file out of the .dmg file and paste into your applications folder.

Cut is considered destructive and mac OS won't let you do it to files.  This is 
one of the few irritating things about the mac operating system.  In any 
event,you need to delete the original if you don't want two copies.
Command delete will probably become available once you eject the disk image as 
Sarah Suggested.

Hope this helps,


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On 2010-08-14, at 5:55 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> Thanks to Sarah and Erik I'm more comfortable with the finder so I copied the 
> SKYPE disk image file from downloads to applications and can now open it from 
> there.  I gather these dmg files are executable and there's no installation 
> process necessary after downloading?
> 
> Why was "cut" dimmed?  Since I copied it to applications do I now have two 45 
> meg files?  I see that command+delete under the file menu is also dimmed so 
> deleting from downloads does not appear to be an option.
> 
> TIA for any info about these files and best regards.
> Geoff 
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Re: VmWare Fusion 3.1.1

[Scott Howell]

Mike are the volume levels the same? I have reverted back to 3.0.0 because the 
audio level when even installing from scratch is 30 to 40% lower than the 
volume under 3.0.0. In fact under Fusion 3.0.0, the audio levels were equal. I 
am now in discussions with VmWare Support and hopefully they will have some 
ideas. They did have me remove VMWare completely and install from scratch. This 
did not resolve the issue and I really cannot loose audio to this degree.
So, if I find a solution, I will share with the group.
On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> H, on one of my mac minis, I upgraded, and the audio is working fine with 
> windows XP.
> On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:36 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>> I cannot recommend upgrading to the most recent version of VmWare's Fusion. 
>> Not only have they not corrected the volume issue, there is now a more 
>> significant problem. The audio is so choppy as to be useless. I do not know 
>> what the hell VmWare is doing, but they have really screwed things up in my 
>> opinion. It seems contacting them is no easy task either, so if anyone has a 
>> simple way to reach support, please let me know. I am just really 
>> disappointed in the last two versions.
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Re: Suggestion for making a great VO feature even better.

[Scott Howell]

Perhaps so, but I would certainly hope if this were a feature, it also included 
a silent option. 
On Aug 14, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Actually in my case some letters don't press if I don't' press hard enough so 
> in my case I leave keyboard echo on so I know if I mistyped something cause I 
> though the letter pressed.
> 
> S
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> How about no sound at all. Surely you will know when your pressing the keys. 
>> THe sound would become distracting and the entire point is silence not noise.
>> On Aug 14, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> No! no! no! that might confused the heck out of me. I would not want it 
>>> sounding like I'm entering in a password all the time. Maybe a quiet ping 
>>> or something.
>>> 
>>> S
>>> On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>>> 
 Hi. 
 
 When I started this thread, I wasn't thinking of the key click feature.  
 Actually, I would never use it.  However, in order to help the 
 accessibility people at Apple, would it be fair to say that the key clicks 
 you envisage would sound like the ones that the Mac gives us when we enter 
 secure passwords?  I rather like the fact that these key clicks are issued.
 
 Best to all,
 
 Mike
 
 On 13,Aug,2010, at 9:09 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> lol. tha'ts tprobably why I type very hard, eather that or it's my piano 
> playing that causes me to type hard. lol!
> 
> 
> On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
> 
>> exactly! jut have them add it to the typing echo place in the verbosity 
>> settings. a really fast click would be nice as laptop keyboard are very 
>> quiet. those of us who learned to type on an IBM selectric or other 
>> electric typewriters before we had computers would appreciate it.. wnat 
>> t make it very fancy, record an ibm selectric   it isn't tactile 
>> feedback but it would be handy I sometimes miss letters if I type too 
>> softly and too quickly
>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> yeah true. Hmm I dunno. Maybe a click not a cherp, like a typing sound 
>>> maybe?
>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 well of course you could turn it on or off  I'm thinking of a slight 
 click nt abeep or chirp and anyone could turn the sound on or off at 
 will :)
 On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
> I agree. Although the chirp is a good one I too asan end user would 
> feel overwhelmed whenit comes to noises.
> 
> S
> On Aug 5, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
>> Hello Michael,
>> 
>> Although I do not know how this feature would help, who am I to say 
>> that it wouldn't.  There are a couple of things, however, that one 
>> must keep in mind.
>> 
>> 1.  There is already some feedback from keyboard entry in the form 
>> of tones.  For example when Caps Lock is activated, you get beeps to 
>> indicate this.
>> 
>> 2.  When attempting to enter information in an area information 
>> can't be entered, the keyboard "chirps."
>> 
>> My concern is that if every single key clicked, then beeped when the 
>> Caps Lock is on, etc., the user might be overwhelmed with too much 
>> feedback.  When I originally brought up the idea of having VO emit 
>> an error tone after a word had been written, I wasn't thinking about 
>> anything else than preserving a silent typing environment but still 
>> being notified right away when a word was mis-spelled.  To my way of 
>> thinking, this would speed up the editing process for everyone who 
>> wanted to use it and, for those of us who work in multilingual 
>> environments, it would be a great way for the Mac to say: "Hey, you 
>> may want to switch your keyboard to another language!"  I have 
>> accidentally written several paragraphs before discovering that I 
>> was writing German texts but hadn't switched my keyboard over to 
>> that keyboard layout.  Had this feature that I want been available, 
>> I would have saved myself tons of time and grief more than once.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> On 5,Aug,2010, at 2:53 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> this brings an idea  to mind. I used to have an atari st that had a 
>>> very soft click or chirp when keys were pressed I wonder if we 
>>> could get a very very light click sound that would sound on each 
>>> keypress. to be useful ti would have to be very quiet, preferably 
>>> adjustable, or let you select what sound you want it to use, for 

Re: Magic Jack/Force Quiting An Application

[Thomas]

Another way depending on where you dock is is to go into dock, find  
the running application.  Arrow right, then VO arrow down to force  
quit sometimes that works when the apple menu one doesn't.


On Aug 7, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:


Hi Linda,

Try force quitting the app.  You can find this in the Apple menu in  
the menu bar or, press command option escape.


hth
On Aug 7, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Linda Adams wrote:


Hi everyone,

I've been trying everything I could think of to access the log out  
screen for Magic Jack.  After pressing command Q, it comes up with  
a dialog and I have to select "yes" to completely close it.  I  
checked the menu but that only did the same as command Q.  I tried  
turning tracking off and that didn't help.  I tried the window  
chooser but there is only one window and I can't get to the yes  
button.


All suggestions welcomed.
Linda

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Re: Getting started with the Finder.

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Let's make one point clear here, in case no one has done it yet.

It is not necessary to use List mode Command-2. It depends entirely which view 
you are comfortable with. For example, I use Icon a lot, which is Command-1, 
but mostly Column view which is Command-3. There are of course benefits to 
either view, and even though you come from Windows which uses the equivalent of 
list view in Mac OS X, you might find you might like either of the other views 
better. Just something to consider and try out, though I understand, of course, 
that since you come from Windows using something familiar might be more 
comfortable for now.

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On Aug 14, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Ok let's make it simpler Just do vo shift d to get to he finder then hit cmd 
> shift h to get to your home directory. Forget entirely about the sidebar. 
> There are keystrokes for changing view in the finder andi usually go cmd 2 on 
> the numbers ro for list mode.
> 
> to get to your computer from wiht in the finder us cmd shift C and you can 
> move up and down int eh list.
> 
> S
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> Greetings all,
>> 
>> I tend to learn better from poking around and RTFMing rather than podcasts. 
>> I'm into Chapter 3 of the VoiceOver getting started guide (URL: 
>> http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ ) and am sure I'm making things 
>> much more complecated and am not interpreting the text correctly, but right 
>> now it feels as though FireSign Theater best summed it up in their ancient 
>> lp: "you can't get there from here".
>> 
>> Once I get past this the rest will hopefully start falling into place, but I 
>> finally reached the point where I need to seek advice here, so for those who 
>> want to follow me in the manual as I try and locate the Skype file I 
>> recently downloaded, here goes:
>> 
>> I will qquote the manual and then delineate my comments with my initials 
>> (GLW).
>> 
>> The text reads:
>> quote
>> Note:The instructions below assume that cursor tracking is on, and the 
>> VoiceOver cursor and keyboard focus are tracking each other.
>> To open a Finder window:
>> Move to the Dock by pressing VO-D or, if you're using VoiceOver gestures, 
>> double-tap near the bottom edge of the trackpad. Then navigate to the 
>> Finder, which is the first item in the Dock.
>> Unquote
>> GLW I verified the suggested settings.  VO+D and selecting the first item 
>> works however the trackpad command does not.  I closed all active Windows 
>> and took VO focus to the desktop. VO+F1 outputs: "finder. 1 running 
>> application".  When I tap near the bottom of my trackpad, VO emits the sound 
>> associated with either boundry reached or "command not supported".
>> 
>> Returning to text:
>> Quote:
>> Open the Application Chooser by pressing VO-F1-F1 or, if you're using 
>> VoiceOver gestures, double-tap near the left edge of the trackpad. Choose 
>> Finder in the Application Chooser.
>> Unquote.
>> GLW The Application chooser works but again from the desktop with no other 
>> apps open tapping the left edge of my trackpad only emits the out of bounds 
>> bonk.
>> 
>> Quote:
>> You can also use Mac OS X shortcuts by pressing Command-Tab and then using 
>> the arrow keys to navigate to the Finder.
>> Unquote
>> GLW Command+tab causes VO to announce: "finder", but I can not navigate with 
>> either the arrows or VO+arrow keys at this point.  Command+w has no affect, 
>> but then the manual states that the Finder is always active.
>> 
>> Quote
>> If a Finder window was open, you go to that window. Otherwise, you go to the 
>> desktop. In that case, go to the menu bar by pressing VO-M or, if you're 
>> using VoiceOver gestures, double-tapping near the top edge of the trackpad. 
>> Then use the Right Arrow key to navigate to the Finder menu.
>> Unquote
>> GLW From that Window I cannot navigate with the arrows, VO+M places me in 
>> the finder menu, but the initial screen is nothing like what is presented 
>> when I press VO+d and select the first dock item.  And again pressing near 
>> the top of my trackpad emits the "command not supported" tone.
>> 
>> So far I have workarounds, but after I select list view from the toolbar's 
>> view radio group, the real fun begins.
>> 
>> Quote
>> When you have selected a view, stop interacting with the view radio group 
>> and the toolbar, and then press VO-Right Arrow to move through the window 
>> until you hear "sidebar."
>> To move down the list of items in the sidebar, press VO-Down Arrow. When you 
>> hear the item you want, jump to it in the view browser; you can interact 
>> with it.
>> To jump, press VO-J. If you're using VoiceOver gestures, keep a finger on 
>> the trackpad and press the Control key.
>> Unquote
>> GLW I quit interacting with the toolbar

Re: dmg files.

[Sarah Alawami]

Actually I can cut files no problems but 'm not telling how! Mew Hahahahah! I'm 
kidding. there is a workflow at http://icanworkthisthing.com that aloows 
cutting of files and it works great.

S
On Aug 14, 2010, at 3:26 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi Geoff,
> 
> DMG viles are disk image files.  As Sarah said, you copy the appropriate .app 
> file out of the .dmg file and paste into your applications folder.
> 
> Cut is considered destructive and mac OS won't let you do it to files.  This 
> is one of the few irritating things about the mac operating system.  In any 
> event,you need to delete the original if you don't want two copies.
> Command delete will probably become available once you eject the disk image 
> as Sarah Suggested.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and 
> subscribe.
> 
> On 2010-08-14, at 5:55 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> Thanks to Sarah and Erik I'm more comfortable with the finder so I copied 
>> the SKYPE disk image file from downloads to applications and can now open it 
>> from there.  I gather these dmg files are executable and there's no 
>> installation process necessary after downloading?
>> 
>> Why was "cut" dimmed?  Since I copied it to applications do I now have two 
>> 45 meg files?  I see that command+delete under the file menu is also dimmed 
>> so deleting from downloads does not appear to be an option.
>> 
>> TIA for any info about these files and best regards.
>> Geoff 
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Re: Getting started with the Finder.

[Sarah Alawami]

actually list mode should be named table mode as you can view and sort like a 
table. Ok that didn't make sence. I've used all 3 and for me to righ taway do 
something wiht out interactin is nice.

S
On Aug 14, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Let's make one point clear here, in case no one has done it yet.
> 
> It is not necessary to use List mode Command-2. It depends entirely which 
> view you are comfortable with. For example, I use Icon a lot, which is 
> Command-1, but mostly Column view which is Command-3. There are of course 
> benefits to either view, and even though you come from Windows which uses the 
> equivalent of list view in Mac OS X, you might find you might like either of 
> the other views better. Just something to consider and try out, though I 
> understand, of course, that since you come from Windows using something 
> familiar might be more comfortable for now.
> 
> Regards,
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> On Aug 14, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Ok let's make it simpler Just do vo shift d to get to he finder then hit cmd 
>> shift h to get to your home directory. Forget entirely about the sidebar. 
>> There are keystrokes for changing view in the finder andi usually go cmd 2 
>> on the numbers ro for list mode.
>> 
>> to get to your computer from wiht in the finder us cmd shift C and you can 
>> move up and down int eh list.
>> 
>> S
>> On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings all,
>>> 
>>> I tend to learn better from poking around and RTFMing rather than podcasts. 
>>> I'm into Chapter 3 of the VoiceOver getting started guide (URL: 
>>> http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ ) and am sure I'm making things 
>>> much more complecated and am not interpreting the text correctly, but right 
>>> now it feels as though FireSign Theater best summed it up in their ancient 
>>> lp: "you can't get there from here".
>>> 
>>> Once I get past this the rest will hopefully start falling into place, but 
>>> I finally reached the point where I need to seek advice here, so for those 
>>> who want to follow me in the manual as I try and locate the Skype file I 
>>> recently downloaded, here goes:
>>> 
>>> I will qquote the manual and then delineate my comments with my initials 
>>> (GLW).
>>> 
>>> The text reads:
>>> quote
>>> Note:The instructions below assume that cursor tracking is on, and the 
>>> VoiceOver cursor and keyboard focus are tracking each other.
>>> To open a Finder window:
>>> Move to the Dock by pressing VO-D or, if you're using VoiceOver gestures, 
>>> double-tap near the bottom edge of the trackpad. Then navigate to the 
>>> Finder, which is the first item in the Dock.
>>> Unquote
>>> GLW I verified the suggested settings.  VO+D and selecting the first item 
>>> works however the trackpad command does not.  I closed all active Windows 
>>> and took VO focus to the desktop. VO+F1 outputs: "finder. 1 running 
>>> application".  When I tap near the bottom of my trackpad, VO emits the 
>>> sound associated with either boundry reached or "command not supported".
>>> 
>>> Returning to text:
>>> Quote:
>>> Open the Application Chooser by pressing VO-F1-F1 or, if you're using 
>>> VoiceOver gestures, double-tap near the left edge of the trackpad. Choose 
>>> Finder in the Application Chooser.
>>> Unquote.
>>> GLW The Application chooser works but again from the desktop with no other 
>>> apps open tapping the left edge of my trackpad only emits the out of bounds 
>>> bonk.
>>> 
>>> Quote:
>>> You can also use Mac OS X shortcuts by pressing Command-Tab and then using 
>>> the arrow keys to navigate to the Finder.
>>> Unquote
>>> GLW Command+tab causes VO to announce: "finder", but I can not navigate 
>>> with either the arrows or VO+arrow keys at this point.  Command+w has no 
>>> affect, but then the manual states that the Finder is always active.
>>> 
>>> Quote
>>> If a Finder window was open, you go to that window. Otherwise, you go to 
>>> the desktop. In that case, go to the menu bar by pressing VO-M or, if 
>>> you're using VoiceOver gestures, double-tapping near the top edge of the 
>>> trackpad. Then use the Right Arrow key to navigate to the Finder menu.
>>> Unquote
>>> GLW From that Window I cannot navigate with the arrows, VO+M places me in 
>>> the finder menu, but the initial screen is nothing like what is presented 
>>> when I press VO+d and select the first dock item.  And again pressing near 
>>> the top of my trackpad emits the "command not supported" tone.
>>> 
>>> So far I have workarounds, but after I select list view from the toolbar's 
>>> view radio group, the real fun begins.
>>> 
>>> Quote
>>> When you have selected a view, stop interacting with the view radio group 
>>> and the toolbar, and then press VO-Right Arrow to move through t

Re: Suggestion for making a great VO feature even better.

[Sarah Alawami]

Oh yeah I'm sure it would. Make it a toggle and we can have the best of both 
worlds.

Take care all.

S
On Aug 14, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Perhaps so, but I would certainly hope if this were a feature, it also 
> included a silent option. 
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Actually in my case some letters don't press if I don't' press hard enough 
>> so in my case I leave keyboard echo on so I know if I mistyped something 
>> cause I though the letter pressed.
>> 
>> S
>> On Aug 14, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> How about no sound at all. Surely you will know when your pressing the 
>>> keys. THe sound would become distracting and the entire point is silence 
>>> not noise.
>>> On Aug 14, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 No! no! no! that might confused the heck out of me. I would not want it 
 sounding like I'm entering in a password all the time. Maybe a quiet ping 
 or something.
 
 S
 On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Michael Busboom wrote:
 
> Hi. 
> 
> When I started this thread, I wasn't thinking of the key click feature.  
> Actually, I would never use it.  However, in order to help the 
> accessibility people at Apple, would it be fair to say that the key 
> clicks you envisage would sound like the ones that the Mac gives us when 
> we enter secure passwords?  I rather like the fact that these key clicks 
> are issued.
> 
> Best to all,
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 13,Aug,2010, at 9:09 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> lol. tha'ts tprobably why I type very hard, eather that or it's my piano 
>> playing that causes me to type hard. lol!
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> exactly! jut have them add it to the typing echo place in the verbosity 
>>> settings. a really fast click would be nice as laptop keyboard are very 
>>> quiet. those of us who learned to type on an IBM selectric or other 
>>> electric typewriters before we had computers would appreciate it.. wnat 
>>> t make it very fancy, record an ibm selectric   it isn't tactile 
>>> feedback but it would be handy I sometimes miss letters if I type too 
>>> softly and too quickly
>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 yeah true. Hmm I dunno. Maybe a click not a cherp, like a typing sound 
 maybe?
 On Aug 5, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
 
> well of course you could turn it on or off  I'm thinking of a slight 
> click nt abeep or chirp and anyone could turn the sound on or off at 
> will :)
> On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> I agree. Although the chirp is a good one I too asan end user would 
>> feel overwhelmed whenit comes to noises.
>> 
>> S
>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Michael,
>>> 
>>> Although I do not know how this feature would help, who am I to say 
>>> that it wouldn't.  There are a couple of things, however, that one 
>>> must keep in mind.
>>> 
>>> 1.  There is already some feedback from keyboard entry in the form 
>>> of tones.  For example when Caps Lock is activated, you get beeps 
>>> to indicate this.
>>> 
>>> 2.  When attempting to enter information in an area information 
>>> can't be entered, the keyboard "chirps."
>>> 
>>> My concern is that if every single key clicked, then beeped when 
>>> the Caps Lock is on, etc., the user might be overwhelmed with too 
>>> much feedback.  When I originally brought up the idea of having VO 
>>> emit an error tone after a word had been written, I wasn't thinking 
>>> about anything else than preserving a silent typing environment but 
>>> still being notified right away when a word was mis-spelled.  To my 
>>> way of thinking, this would speed up the editing process for 
>>> everyone who wanted to use it and, for those of us who work in 
>>> multilingual environments, it would be a great way for the Mac to 
>>> say: "Hey, you may want to switch your keyboard to another 
>>> language!"  I have accidentally written several paragraphs before 
>>> discovering that I was writing German texts but hadn't switched my 
>>> keyboard over to that keyboard layout.  Had this feature that I 
>>> want been available, I would have saved myself tons of time and 
>>> grief more than once.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On 5,Aug,2010, at 2:53 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>> 
 this brings an idea  to mind. I used to have an atari st that had 
 a very soft cl

Re: dmg files.

[erik burggraaf]

Hum,  I have this script installed.  Had forgotten about it actually, mostly 
because it doesn't work here.  When I press the keyboard command I set up to 
move, it asks whether I want to move a folder or a file.
I Choose folder and it asks which folder I want to move.
I navigate to that folder and press enter and it asks where I want to move to.
I navigate to the folder I want to use as my destination and press enter.
Then the scrip fizzles.
When I look my folder is still in the source location.

Big hum...

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On 2010-08-14, at 7:24 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Actually I can cut files no problems but 'm not telling how! Mew Hahahahah! 
> I'm kidding. there is a workflow at http://icanworkthisthing.com that aloows 
> cutting of files and it works great.
> 
> S
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 3:26 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Hi Geoff,
>> 
>> DMG viles are disk image files.  As Sarah said, you copy the appropriate 
>> .app file out of the .dmg file and paste into your applications folder.
>> 
>> Cut is considered destructive and mac OS won't let you do it to files.  This 
>> is one of the few irritating things about the mac operating system.  In any 
>> event,you need to delete the original if you don't want two copies.
>> Command delete will probably become available once you eject the disk image 
>> as Sarah Suggested.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille 
>> box.
>> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and 
>> subscribe.
>> 
>> On 2010-08-14, at 5:55 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> Thanks to Sarah and Erik I'm more comfortable with the finder so I copied 
>>> the SKYPE disk image file from downloads to applications and can now open 
>>> it from there.  I gather these dmg files are executable and there's no 
>>> installation process necessary after downloading?
>>> 
>>> Why was "cut" dimmed?  Since I copied it to applications do I now have two 
>>> 45 meg files?  I see that command+delete under the file menu is also dimmed 
>>> so deleting from downloads does not appear to be an option.
>>> 
>>> TIA for any info about these files and best regards.
>>> Geoff 
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Re: dmg files.

[Sarah Alawami]

Not me works just fine here with no issues. for now anyways. lol!

S
On Aug 14, 2010, at 4:38 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hum,  I have this script installed.  Had forgotten about it actually, mostly 
> because it doesn't work here.  When I press the keyboard command I set up to 
> move, it asks whether I want to move a folder or a file.
> I Choose folder and it asks which folder I want to move.
> I navigate to that folder and press enter and it asks where I want to move to.
> I navigate to the folder I want to use as my destination and press enter.
> Then the scrip fizzles.
> When I look my folder is still in the source location.
> 
> Big hum...
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box.
> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and 
> subscribe.
> 
> On 2010-08-14, at 7:24 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Actually I can cut files no problems but 'm not telling how! Mew Hahahahah! 
>> I'm kidding. there is a workflow at http://icanworkthisthing.com that aloows 
>> cutting of files and it works great.
>> 
>> S
>> On Aug 14, 2010, at 3:26 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>> 
>>> DMG viles are disk image files.  As Sarah said, you copy the appropriate 
>>> .app file out of the .dmg file and paste into your applications folder.
>>> 
>>> Cut is considered destructive and mac OS won't let you do it to files.  
>>> This is one of the few irritating things about the mac operating system.  
>>> In any event,you need to delete the original if you don't want two copies.
>>> Command delete will probably become available once you eject the disk image 
>>> as Sarah Suggested.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille 
>>> box.
>>> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and 
>>> subscribe.
>>> 
>>> On 2010-08-14, at 5:55 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>> 
 Greetings,
 
 Thanks to Sarah and Erik I'm more comfortable with the finder so I copied 
 the SKYPE disk image file from downloads to applications and can now open 
 it from there.  I gather these dmg files are executable and there's no 
 installation process necessary after downloading?
 
 Why was "cut" dimmed?  Since I copied it to applications do I now have two 
 45 meg files?  I see that command+delete under the file menu is also 
 dimmed so deleting from downloads does not appear to be an option.
 
 TIA for any info about these files and best regards.
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re-alternative vm software

[chad baker]

Hi Mike i'm running a trial of vm fusion using xp pro.
I have 2 gb of ram and using 512 mb in the vm.
I would love to use boot  camp but i'm in a hard position no sighted help 
around.
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Re: dmg files.

[Geoff Waaler]

Hi Sarah,

Thanks for the instructions.  I moved skype.app to the applications folder. 
I then went into the computer list and located skype.dmg in my downloads 
folder.  In the file menu eject (command+e) is dimmed, though move to trash 
is available.  Is that what I want?

Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah Alawami" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: dmg files.


Wo! no no no! don't do that!

1. open the dmg from the downloads folder. another finder window will open.

2. press cmd 2 to get to list mode.

3. copy the skype.app.

4. press cmd shift a to get to applications and paste. Now eject the dmg 
from the computer place by


1. going to the computer list with cmd shift C.

2. find the skype.dmg

3. pressing cmd E.

Take care.
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Greetings,

Thanks to Sarah and Erik I'm more comfortable with the finder so I copied 
the SKYPE disk image file from downloads to applications and can now open 
it from there.  I gather these dmg files are executable and there's no 
installation process necessary after downloading?


Why was "cut" dimmed?  Since I copied it to applications do I now have two 
45 meg files?  I see that command+delete under the file menu is also 
dimmed so deleting from downloads does not appear to be an option.


TIA for any info about these files and best regards.
Geoff
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How do I mive the customize header menu back to the right of the subject.

[Sarah Alawami]

Ok when i tab I get to, subject, customize header but when I vo right I get to, 
customize header subject. Huh? How do I make these both  the same. is it 
something i did with out knowing it?

S and this is the mail client btw.

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Re: dmg files.

[Sarah Alawami]

You can move it to trash but you skipped a step after you move the skype.app to 
the apps folder hit cmd shift c and hit command e on the skype icon there.
On Aug 14, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Hi Sarah,
> 
> Thanks for the instructions.  I moved skype.app to the applications folder. I 
> then went into the computer list and located skype.dmg in my downloads 
> folder.  In the file menu eject (command+e) is dimmed, though move to trash 
> is available.  Is that what I want?
> Geoff
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah Alawami" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 6:14 PM
> Subject: Re: dmg files.
> 
> 
> Wo! no no no! don't do that!
> 
> 1. open the dmg from the downloads folder. another finder window will open.
> 
> 2. press cmd 2 to get to list mode.
> 
> 3. copy the skype.app.
> 
> 4. press cmd shift a to get to applications and paste. Now eject the dmg from 
> the computer place by
> 
> 1. going to the computer list with cmd shift C.
> 
> 2. find the skype.dmg
> 
> 3. pressing cmd E.
> 
> Take care.
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> Thanks to Sarah and Erik I'm more comfortable with the finder so I copied 
>> the SKYPE disk image file from downloads to applications and can now open it 
>> from there.  I gather these dmg files are executable and there's no 
>> installation process necessary after downloading?
>> 
>> Why was "cut" dimmed?  Since I copied it to applications do I now have two 
>> 45 meg files?  I see that command+delete under the file menu is also dimmed 
>> so deleting from downloads does not appear to be an option.
>> 
>> TIA for any info about these files and best regards.
>> Geoff
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Re: How do I mive the customize header menu back to the right of the subject.

[Carolyn]

Hi Sarah:

I believe you can determine which headings appear in your mail fields by the 
view menu.  If not there, check in preferences while in Mail.
HTH
Carolyn

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> Ok when i tab I get to, subject, customize header but when I vo right I get 
> to, customize header subject. Huh? How do I make these both  the same. is it 
> something i did with out knowing it?
> 
> S and this is the mail client btw.
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Video player for Mac

[Selena Sang]

Hi, I'm looking for a video player that will let me creat playlists or
add multiple video files to play at once. When I had a PC, I used
Wimamp and I was wondering if there is something out there that's like
that and can play multiple video files and is accessable. Thank you
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Re: Video player for Mac

[erik burggraaf]

Hi, what about vlc from http://www.videolan.org.

Best,

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> Hi, I'm looking for a video player that will let me creat playlists or
> add multiple video files to play at once. When I had a PC, I used
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Re: Video player for Mac

[Pete Nalda]

I thought of that one too, but don't know if it's accessible with VoiceOver.

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> 
> Best,
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> On 2010-08-14, at 8:35 PM, Selena Sang wrote:
> 
>> Hi, I'm looking for a video player that will let me creat playlists or
>> add multiple video files to play at once. When I had a PC, I used
>> Wimamp and I was wondering if there is something out there that's like
>> that and can play multiple video files and is accessable. Thank you
>> for the help.
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Re: How do I move the customize header menu back to the right of the subject.

[Sarah Alawami]

Oh no I want to  move the customize headers thing to the right of subject not 
the left where it is now. it moved on me when I was composing a message. When i 
tab the order is right but when I use vo left and right the order is messed up. 
I did not change anything.

Here are the steps I took to  reproduce this and htis is a recording of the 
very reply you are getting now. lol!

http://db.tt/4SZG7O

S
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> Hi Sarah:
> 
> I believe you can determine which headings appear in your mail fields by the 
> view menu.  If not there, check in preferences while in Mail.
> HTH
> Carolyn
> 
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Ok when i tab I get to, subject, customize header but when I vo right I get 
>> to, customize header subject. Huh? How do I make these both  the same. is it 
>> something i did with out knowing it?
>> 
>> S and this is the mail client btw.
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Re: Video player for Mac

[Sarah Alawami]

Oh it is, except for a few quirks it is fully usable.

S
On Aug 14, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:

> I thought of that one too, but don't know if it's accessible with VoiceOver.
> 
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 7:59 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Hi, what about vlc from http://www.videolan.org.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille 
>> box.
>> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and 
>> subscribe.
>> 
>> On 2010-08-14, at 8:35 PM, Selena Sang wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, I'm looking for a video player that will let me creat playlists or
>>> add multiple video files to play at once. When I had a PC, I used
>>> Wimamp and I was wondering if there is something out there that's like
>>> that and can play multiple video files and is accessable. Thank you
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macbook pro with bellkin router

[Josh Kennedy]

Hi
I am at a friend's house and he has a bellkin router. My macbook pro refuses to 
connect to the bellkin router. It is connected to someone else's linksys router 
which is an open network. Can anyone tell me what settings I have to change in 
the router to make my macbook pro like it and connect? its set to wpa2 personal 
with a password. 

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Re: macbook pro with bellkin router

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Perhaps the router only support 802.11n devices and your 11g mac is
not able to connect to it?
Just a hunch; I haven't really kept ontop of the apple product lines
as of late, so i'm not sure if there shipping with 11n now.

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> I am at a friend's house and he has a bellkin router. My macbook pro refuses
> to connect to the bellkin router. It is connected to someone else's linksys
> router which is an open network. Can anyone tell me what settings I have to
> change in the router to make my macbook pro like it and connect? its set to
> wpa2 personal with a password.
>
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Re: macbook pro with bellkin router

[Sarah Alawami]

Is his ssid set to broadcast cause if it is not you might have to type it in 
manually

S
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> Hi
> I am at a friend's house and he has a bellkin router. My macbook pro refuses 
> to connect to the bellkin router. It is connected to someone else's linksys 
> router which is an open network. Can anyone tell me what settings I have to 
> change in the router to make my macbook pro like it and connect? its set to 
> wpa2 personal with a password. 
> 
> Josh Kennedy
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Re: dmg files.

[Carolyn]

Hi Geoff:
Look instead for move to trash in the menu.

You're doing great!!

Carolyn
On Aug 14, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> Thanks to Sarah and Erik I'm more comfortable with the finder so I copied the 
> SKYPE disk image file from downloads to applications and can now open it from 
> there.  I gather these dmg files are executable and there's no installation 
> process necessary after downloading?
> 
> Why was "cut" dimmed?  Since I copied it to applications do I now have two 45 
> meg files?  I see that command+delete under the file menu is also dimmed so 
> deleting from downloads does not appear to be an option.
> 
> TIA for any info about these files and best regards.
> Geoff 
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Re: macbook pro with bellkin router

[Sarah Alawami]

Mine does g as I have a linksys that only does g. Our router is about 5 years 
old. lol!
On Aug 14, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> Perhaps the router only support 802.11n devices and your 11g mac is
> not able to connect to it?
> Just a hunch; I haven't really kept ontop of the apple product lines
> as of late, so i'm not sure if there shipping with 11n now.
> 
> On 15/08/2010, Josh Kennedy  wrote:
>> Hi
>> I am at a friend's house and he has a bellkin router. My macbook pro refuses
>> to connect to the bellkin router. It is connected to someone else's linksys
>> router which is an open network. Can anyone tell me what settings I have to
>> change in the router to make my macbook pro like it and connect? its set to
>> wpa2 personal with a password.
>> 
>> Josh Kennedy
>> jkenn...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Video player for Mac

[clarence griffin]

VLC is pretty good. Not everything is labeled but most of the unlabeled stuff 
has tags so you can hear the help tags and label them.

GF


On Aug 14, 2010, at 8:35 PM, Selena Sang wrote:

> Hi, I'm looking for a video player that will let me creat playlists or
> add multiple video files to play at once. When I had a PC, I used
> Wimamp and I was wondering if there is something out there that's like
> that and can play multiple video files and is accessable. Thank you
> for the help.
> 
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Re: macbook pro with bellkin router

[Geoff Waaler]

Ben,

One question I can answer.  The specs for the current MBP line do indicate 
that the Airport card supports N.


Best regards.
Geoff

- Original Message - 
From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: macbook pro with bellkin router



Perhaps the router only support 802.11n devices and your 11g mac is
not able to connect to it?
Just a hunch; I haven't really kept ontop of the apple product lines
as of late, so i'm not sure if there shipping with 11n now.

On 15/08/2010, Josh Kennedy  wrote:

Hi
I am at a friend's house and he has a bellkin router. My macbook pro 
refuses
to connect to the bellkin router. It is connected to someone else's 
linksys
router which is an open network. Can anyone tell me what settings I have 
to
change in the router to make my macbook pro like it and connect? its set 
to

wpa2 personal with a password.

Josh Kennedy
jkenn...@gmail.com


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