Hi, Let's make one point clear here, in case no one has done it yet.
It is not necessary to use List mode Command-2. It depends entirely which view you are comfortable with. For example, I use Icon a lot, which is Command-1, but mostly Column view which is Command-3. There are of course benefits to either view, and even though you come from Windows which uses the equivalent of list view in Mac OS X, you might find you might like either of the other views better. Just something to consider and try out, though I understand, of course, that since you come from Windows using something familiar might be more comfortable for now. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Aug 14, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Ok let's make it simpler Just do vo shift d to get to he finder then hit cmd > shift h to get to your home directory. Forget entirely about the sidebar. > There are keystrokes for changing view in the finder andi usually go cmd 2 on > the numbers ro for list mode. > > to get to your computer from wiht in the finder us cmd shift C and you can > move up and down int eh list. > > S > On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Greetings all, >> >> I tend to learn better from poking around and RTFMing rather than podcasts. >> I'm into Chapter 3 of the VoiceOver getting started guide (URL: >> http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ ) and am sure I'm making things >> much more complecated and am not interpreting the text correctly, but right >> now it feels as though FireSign Theater best summed it up in their ancient >> lp: "you can't get there from here". >> >> Once I get past this the rest will hopefully start falling into place, but I >> finally reached the point where I need to seek advice here, so for those who >> want to follow me in the manual as I try and locate the Skype file I >> recently downloaded, here goes: >> >> I will qquote the manual and then delineate my comments with my initials >> (GLW). >> >> The text reads: >> quote >> Note:The instructions below assume that cursor tracking is on, and the >> VoiceOver cursor and keyboard focus are tracking each other. >> To open a Finder window: >> Move to the Dock by pressing VO-D or, if you're using VoiceOver gestures, >> double-tap near the bottom edge of the trackpad. Then navigate to the >> Finder, which is the first item in the Dock. >> Unquote >> GLW I verified the suggested settings. VO+D and selecting the first item >> works however the trackpad command does not. I closed all active Windows >> and took VO focus to the desktop. VO+F1 outputs: "finder. 1 running >> application". When I tap near the bottom of my trackpad, VO emits the sound >> associated with either boundry reached or "command not supported". >> >> Returning to text: >> Quote: >> Open the Application Chooser by pressing VO-F1-F1 or, if you're using >> VoiceOver gestures, double-tap near the left edge of the trackpad. Choose >> Finder in the Application Chooser. >> Unquote. >> GLW The Application chooser works but again from the desktop with no other >> apps open tapping the left edge of my trackpad only emits the out of bounds >> bonk. >> >> Quote: >> You can also use Mac OS X shortcuts by pressing Command-Tab and then using >> the arrow keys to navigate to the Finder. >> Unquote >> GLW Command+tab causes VO to announce: "finder", but I can not navigate with >> either the arrows or VO+arrow keys at this point. Command+w has no affect, >> but then the manual states that the Finder is always active. >> >> Quote >> If a Finder window was open, you go to that window. Otherwise, you go to the >> desktop. In that case, go to the menu bar by pressing VO-M or, if you're >> using VoiceOver gestures, double-tapping near the top edge of the trackpad. >> Then use the Right Arrow key to navigate to the Finder menu. >> Unquote >> GLW From that Window I cannot navigate with the arrows, VO+M places me in >> the finder menu, but the initial screen is nothing like what is presented >> when I press VO+d and select the first dock item. And again pressing near >> the top of my trackpad emits the "command not supported" tone. >> >> So far I have workarounds, but after I select list view from the toolbar's >> view radio group, the real fun begins. >> >> Quote >> When you have selected a view, stop interacting with the view radio group >> and the toolbar, and then press VO-Right Arrow to move through the window >> until you hear "sidebar." >> To move down the list of items in the sidebar, press VO-Down Arrow. When you >> hear the item you want, jump to it in the view browser; you can interact >> with it. >> To jump, press VO-J. If you're using VoiceOver gestures, keep a finger on >> the trackpad and press the Control key. >> Unquote >> GLW I quit interacting with the toolbar and press vo+right arrow. VO >> announces sidebar as a table, and since the arrow keys have no affect I >> interact with it. The first item (Macintosh hd) is clearly what I want. If >> I press vo+down arrow I immediately receive the "finder critical alert" >> dialog prompting me to set up a MobileMe account. If I try and explore with >> my trackpad and land there that dialog again pops up. VO+j does get me to >> the list view as does the control key while touching the trackpad (assuming >> I don't accidently flick to MobileMe). I can then expand my account name, >> interact with the resulting table, and interact with downloads to find my >> Skype file. >> >> But it seems that depending on what I do in my list view, I may have a >> different selection active in the sidebar, which means I again have to try >> and avoid the MobileMe setup while treversing the table. >> >> I realize that there are many former Windows users here, so this can't be >> nearly as cumbersome as I made it. Right now it seems that it takes about >> fifty steps to accomplish what I've been doing by pressing Windows+e and >> selecting a drive and folder. I am taking into account that anything new >> will seem harder and maybe I've got the navigation steps right and they just >> become second nature? >> >> If you got this far thanks for your patients and any comments you're willing >> to share. >> Geoff >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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