Uh, well that's a bit verbose. Here's my version. It's a bit wordy too, but contains more actual information.
Two ways to get to finder, which as you have observed is always open. One, hold down the commend key and press tab until you hear finder, or two, Press control Option D to get to the dock. Press f for finder and then press enter. I tend to ignore the sidebar and stick to the file browser. When you enter a finder window you should land directly on the file browser. Press command shift H to go to the home folder. Type dow to get to the downloads folder. then type sky to go to your skype file. How you navigate the file browser depends slightly on your personal preferences. You can change the view of the file browser from icon to list to column by pressing command 1, command two, and command 3 respectively. The browser behaves differently in all three modes, and you will want to choose the one that makes you most comfortable. Personally, I like column mode, command 3. In this mode, up and down arrows take you through the list of contents of the currently open folder, while left and right arrows collapse and expand folders. Backing up completely and taking another totally different direction, you can easily get to your skype file by pressing command space to bring up the spotlight, typing skype, and then arrowing down to the file and pressing enter. Hope this helps, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-14, at 4:02 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings all, > > I tend to learn better from poking around and RTFMing rather than podcasts. > I'm into Chapter 3 of the VoiceOver getting started guide (URL: > http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ ) and am sure I'm making things > much more complecated and am not interpreting the text correctly, but right > now it feels as though FireSign Theater best summed it up in their ancient > lp: "you can't get there from here". > > Once I get past this the rest will hopefully start falling into place, but I > finally reached the point where I need to seek advice here, so for those who > want to follow me in the manual as I try and locate the Skype file I recently > downloaded, here goes: > > I will qquote the manual and then delineate my comments with my initials > (GLW). > > The text reads: > quote > Note:The instructions below assume that cursor tracking is on, and the > VoiceOver cursor and keyboard focus are tracking each other. > To open a Finder window: > Move to the Dock by pressing VO-D or, if you're using VoiceOver gestures, > double-tap near the bottom edge of the trackpad. Then navigate to the Finder, > which is the first item in the Dock. > Unquote > GLW I verified the suggested settings. VO+D and selecting the first item > works however the trackpad command does not. I closed all active Windows and > took VO focus to the desktop. VO+F1 outputs: "finder. 1 running application". > When I tap near the bottom of my trackpad, VO emits the sound associated > with either boundry reached or "command not supported". > > Returning to text: > Quote: > Open the Application Chooser by pressing VO-F1-F1 or, if you're using > VoiceOver gestures, double-tap near the left edge of the trackpad. Choose > Finder in the Application Chooser. > Unquote. > GLW The Application chooser works but again from the desktop with no other > apps open tapping the left edge of my trackpad only emits the out of bounds > bonk. > > Quote: > You can also use Mac OS X shortcuts by pressing Command-Tab and then using > the arrow keys to navigate to the Finder. > Unquote > GLW Command+tab causes VO to announce: "finder", but I can not navigate with > either the arrows or VO+arrow keys at this point. Command+w has no affect, > but then the manual states that the Finder is always active. > > Quote > If a Finder window was open, you go to that window. Otherwise, you go to the > desktop. In that case, go to the menu bar by pressing VO-M or, if you're > using VoiceOver gestures, double-tapping near the top edge of the trackpad. > Then use the Right Arrow key to navigate to the Finder menu. > Unquote > GLW From that Window I cannot navigate with the arrows, VO+M places me in the > finder menu, but the initial screen is nothing like what is presented when I > press VO+d and select the first dock item. And again pressing near the top > of my trackpad emits the "command not supported" tone. > > So far I have workarounds, but after I select list view from the toolbar's > view radio group, the real fun begins. > > Quote > When you have selected a view, stop interacting with the view radio group and > the toolbar, and then press VO-Right Arrow to move through the window until > you hear "sidebar." > To move down the list of items in the sidebar, press VO-Down Arrow. When you > hear the item you want, jump to it in the view browser; you can interact with > it. > To jump, press VO-J. If you're using VoiceOver gestures, keep a finger on the > trackpad and press the Control key. > Unquote > GLW I quit interacting with the toolbar and press vo+right arrow. VO > announces sidebar as a table, and since the arrow keys have no affect I > interact with it. The first item (Macintosh hd) is clearly what I want. If > I press vo+down arrow I immediately receive the "finder critical alert" > dialog prompting me to set up a MobileMe account. If I try and explore with > my trackpad and land there that dialog again pops up. VO+j does get me to > the list view as does the control key while touching the trackpad (assuming I > don't accidently flick to MobileMe). I can then expand my account name, > interact with the resulting table, and interact with downloads to find my > Skype file. > > But it seems that depending on what I do in my list view, I may have a > different selection active in the sidebar, which means I again have to try > and avoid the MobileMe setup while treversing the table. > > I realize that there are many former Windows users here, so this can't be > nearly as cumbersome as I made it. Right now it seems that it takes about > fifty steps to accomplish what I've been doing by pressing Windows+e and > selecting a drive and folder. I am taking into account that anything new > will seem harder and maybe I've got the navigation steps right and they just > become second nature? > > If you got this far thanks for your patients and any comments you're willing > to share. > Geoff > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
