Ok let's make it simpler Just do vo shift d to get to he finder then hit cmd shift h to get to your home directory. Forget entirely about the sidebar. There are keystrokes for changing view in the finder andi usually go cmd 2 on the numbers ro for list mode.
to get to your computer from wiht in the finder us cmd shift C and you can move up and down int eh list. S On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings all, > > I tend to learn better from poking around and RTFMing rather than podcasts. > I'm into Chapter 3 of the VoiceOver getting started guide (URL: > http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ ) and am sure I'm making things > much more complecated and am not interpreting the text correctly, but right > now it feels as though FireSign Theater best summed it up in their ancient > lp: "you can't get there from here". > > Once I get past this the rest will hopefully start falling into place, but I > finally reached the point where I need to seek advice here, so for those who > want to follow me in the manual as I try and locate the Skype file I recently > downloaded, here goes: > > I will qquote the manual and then delineate my comments with my initials > (GLW). > > The text reads: > quote > Note:The instructions below assume that cursor tracking is on, and the > VoiceOver cursor and keyboard focus are tracking each other. > To open a Finder window: > Move to the Dock by pressing VO-D or, if you're using VoiceOver gestures, > double-tap near the bottom edge of the trackpad. Then navigate to the Finder, > which is the first item in the Dock. > Unquote > GLW I verified the suggested settings. VO+D and selecting the first item > works however the trackpad command does not. I closed all active Windows and > took VO focus to the desktop. VO+F1 outputs: "finder. 1 running application". > When I tap near the bottom of my trackpad, VO emits the sound associated > with either boundry reached or "command not supported". > > Returning to text: > Quote: > Open the Application Chooser by pressing VO-F1-F1 or, if you're using > VoiceOver gestures, double-tap near the left edge of the trackpad. Choose > Finder in the Application Chooser. > Unquote. > GLW The Application chooser works but again from the desktop with no other > apps open tapping the left edge of my trackpad only emits the out of bounds > bonk. > > Quote: > You can also use Mac OS X shortcuts by pressing Command-Tab and then using > the arrow keys to navigate to the Finder. > Unquote > GLW Command+tab causes VO to announce: "finder", but I can not navigate with > either the arrows or VO+arrow keys at this point. Command+w has no affect, > but then the manual states that the Finder is always active. > > Quote > If a Finder window was open, you go to that window. Otherwise, you go to the > desktop. In that case, go to the menu bar by pressing VO-M or, if you're > using VoiceOver gestures, double-tapping near the top edge of the trackpad. > Then use the Right Arrow key to navigate to the Finder menu. > Unquote > GLW From that Window I cannot navigate with the arrows, VO+M places me in the > finder menu, but the initial screen is nothing like what is presented when I > press VO+d and select the first dock item. And again pressing near the top > of my trackpad emits the "command not supported" tone. > > So far I have workarounds, but after I select list view from the toolbar's > view radio group, the real fun begins. > > Quote > When you have selected a view, stop interacting with the view radio group and > the toolbar, and then press VO-Right Arrow to move through the window until > you hear "sidebar." > To move down the list of items in the sidebar, press VO-Down Arrow. When you > hear the item you want, jump to it in the view browser; you can interact with > it. > To jump, press VO-J. If you're using VoiceOver gestures, keep a finger on the > trackpad and press the Control key. > Unquote > GLW I quit interacting with the toolbar and press vo+right arrow. VO > announces sidebar as a table, and since the arrow keys have no affect I > interact with it. The first item (Macintosh hd) is clearly what I want. If > I press vo+down arrow I immediately receive the "finder critical alert" > dialog prompting me to set up a MobileMe account. If I try and explore with > my trackpad and land there that dialog again pops up. VO+j does get me to > the list view as does the control key while touching the trackpad (assuming I > don't accidently flick to MobileMe). I can then expand my account name, > interact with the resulting table, and interact with downloads to find my > Skype file. > > But it seems that depending on what I do in my list view, I may have a > different selection active in the sidebar, which means I again have to try > and avoid the MobileMe setup while treversing the table. > > I realize that there are many former Windows users here, so this can't be > nearly as cumbersome as I made it. Right now it seems that it takes about > fifty steps to accomplish what I've been doing by pressing Windows+e and > selecting a drive and folder. I am taking into account that anything new > will seem harder and maybe I've got the navigation steps right and they just > become second nature? > > If you got this far thanks for your patients and any comments you're willing > to share. > Geoff > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
