actually list mode should be named table mode as you can view and sort like a table. Ok that didn't make sence. I've used all 3 and for me to righ taway do something wiht out interactin is nice.
S On Aug 14, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Let's make one point clear here, in case no one has done it yet. > > It is not necessary to use List mode Command-2. It depends entirely which > view you are comfortable with. For example, I use Icon a lot, which is > Command-1, but mostly Column view which is Command-3. There are of course > benefits to either view, and even though you come from Windows which uses the > equivalent of list view in Mac OS X, you might find you might like either of > the other views better. Just something to consider and try out, though I > understand, of course, that since you come from Windows using something > familiar might be more comfortable for now. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Aug 14, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Ok let's make it simpler Just do vo shift d to get to he finder then hit cmd >> shift h to get to your home directory. Forget entirely about the sidebar. >> There are keystrokes for changing view in the finder andi usually go cmd 2 >> on the numbers ro for list mode. >> >> to get to your computer from wiht in the finder us cmd shift C and you can >> move up and down int eh list. >> >> S >> On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >>> Greetings all, >>> >>> I tend to learn better from poking around and RTFMing rather than podcasts. >>> I'm into Chapter 3 of the VoiceOver getting started guide (URL: >>> http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/ ) and am sure I'm making things >>> much more complecated and am not interpreting the text correctly, but right >>> now it feels as though FireSign Theater best summed it up in their ancient >>> lp: "you can't get there from here". >>> >>> Once I get past this the rest will hopefully start falling into place, but >>> I finally reached the point where I need to seek advice here, so for those >>> who want to follow me in the manual as I try and locate the Skype file I >>> recently downloaded, here goes: >>> >>> I will qquote the manual and then delineate my comments with my initials >>> (GLW). >>> >>> The text reads: >>> quote >>> Note:The instructions below assume that cursor tracking is on, and the >>> VoiceOver cursor and keyboard focus are tracking each other. >>> To open a Finder window: >>> Move to the Dock by pressing VO-D or, if you're using VoiceOver gestures, >>> double-tap near the bottom edge of the trackpad. Then navigate to the >>> Finder, which is the first item in the Dock. >>> Unquote >>> GLW I verified the suggested settings. VO+D and selecting the first item >>> works however the trackpad command does not. I closed all active Windows >>> and took VO focus to the desktop. VO+F1 outputs: "finder. 1 running >>> application". When I tap near the bottom of my trackpad, VO emits the >>> sound associated with either boundry reached or "command not supported". >>> >>> Returning to text: >>> Quote: >>> Open the Application Chooser by pressing VO-F1-F1 or, if you're using >>> VoiceOver gestures, double-tap near the left edge of the trackpad. Choose >>> Finder in the Application Chooser. >>> Unquote. >>> GLW The Application chooser works but again from the desktop with no other >>> apps open tapping the left edge of my trackpad only emits the out of bounds >>> bonk. >>> >>> Quote: >>> You can also use Mac OS X shortcuts by pressing Command-Tab and then using >>> the arrow keys to navigate to the Finder. >>> Unquote >>> GLW Command+tab causes VO to announce: "finder", but I can not navigate >>> with either the arrows or VO+arrow keys at this point. Command+w has no >>> affect, but then the manual states that the Finder is always active. >>> >>> Quote >>> If a Finder window was open, you go to that window. Otherwise, you go to >>> the desktop. In that case, go to the menu bar by pressing VO-M or, if >>> you're using VoiceOver gestures, double-tapping near the top edge of the >>> trackpad. Then use the Right Arrow key to navigate to the Finder menu. >>> Unquote >>> GLW From that Window I cannot navigate with the arrows, VO+M places me in >>> the finder menu, but the initial screen is nothing like what is presented >>> when I press VO+d and select the first dock item. And again pressing near >>> the top of my trackpad emits the "command not supported" tone. >>> >>> So far I have workarounds, but after I select list view from the toolbar's >>> view radio group, the real fun begins. >>> >>> Quote >>> When you have selected a view, stop interacting with the view radio group >>> and the toolbar, and then press VO-Right Arrow to move through the window >>> until you hear "sidebar." >>> To move down the list of items in the sidebar, press VO-Down Arrow. When >>> you hear the item you want, jump to it in the view browser; you can >>> interact with it. >>> To jump, press VO-J. If you're using VoiceOver gestures, keep a finger on >>> the trackpad and press the Control key. >>> Unquote >>> GLW I quit interacting with the toolbar and press vo+right arrow. VO >>> announces sidebar as a table, and since the arrow keys have no affect I >>> interact with it. The first item (Macintosh hd) is clearly what I want. >>> If I press vo+down arrow I immediately receive the "finder critical alert" >>> dialog prompting me to set up a MobileMe account. If I try and explore >>> with my trackpad and land there that dialog again pops up. VO+j does get >>> me to the list view as does the control key while touching the trackpad >>> (assuming I don't accidently flick to MobileMe). I can then expand my >>> account name, interact with the resulting table, and interact with >>> downloads to find my Skype file. >>> >>> But it seems that depending on what I do in my list view, I may have a >>> different selection active in the sidebar, which means I again have to try >>> and avoid the MobileMe setup while treversing the table. >>> >>> I realize that there are many former Windows users here, so this can't be >>> nearly as cumbersome as I made it. Right now it seems that it takes about >>> fifty steps to accomplish what I've been doing by pressing Windows+e and >>> selecting a drive and folder. I am taking into account that anything new >>> will seem harder and maybe I've got the navigation steps right and they >>> just become second nature? >>> >>> If you got this far thanks for your patients and any comments you're >>> willing to share. >>> Geoff >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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