[ot] Freedom of speech online + some more issues

[Uri]

Dear linux-il friends,

1. I'm very concerned with freedom of speech online, especially today
when the www and Internet has become so commercial.  When the big
corporations control the Internet, or at least to some extent are
controlling the Internet, some things can't be said and some ideas
can't be expressed without being censored or sued.  There are a few
issues I want to discuss related to this, it's off topic linux but
related to open source and freedom of speech so I think it's better if
you reply off list to my posts or write me directly, I'm not writing
everything here because it's long and I don't want to spam the list.

2. I need some information and advice about open source software for
exchanging files and ideas, and I'm also looking for people to support
and help coding or finding people who can help coding and also (before
coding) designing the technical issues involved here. It's long and
off topic so if you are interested please see more information here:
http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/?p=83

3. I recently joined facebook but my account was disabled and I
decided to leave. It's also related to me being politically active and
also me criticizing facebook. There are many people who use mainly
facebook to communicate with other people and I can't communicate with
these people (including my friends) and by the way things I wrote have
been removed from Wikipedia talk pages and I was asked to leave and
not return to this website too. http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/?p=81

4. I'm currently looking for work. If you know something please let me
know privately. You can see my profile at LinkedIn:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/urievenchen

Thanks and I hope this post is accepted although it's not directly
related to linux-il.

Uri Even-Chen
Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My website: http://www.speedy.net/uri/

"Never believe anything men say on odd days.
Never believe anything women say on even days.
Check the date before you believe someone!"

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מכתב זה אישי וחסוי מתחילתו ועד סופו. כל זכויות היוצרים שמורות לכותב
המכתב. אין לפרסם או להפיץ את המכתב ברבים ללא רשות מפורשת מכותב המכתב.
אם קיבלת מכתב זה בטעות וקראת עד כאן, "תשכח" מה שקראת, "אל תדע" מה
שידעת ו"תעמיד פנים" שמעולם לא קיבלת ולא קראת את המכתב.
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[li..........il: related]: Quantum relativity 0.1 completed counting backwords in time; all numbers base 21 [r].

[Uri]

e 6-1==5 and then you
will just keep growing with numbers but stop counting because I am
leaving all countings to this protocol and then no stupid US army will
ever be able to cheat me. they will have to redefine 5 all over again
(many times, they will be sent to black holes) but you my friends who
know all this can just count me base 21. For example if you want to
say "Hello Uri!"; convery this to "[your name::][::your number
21::][Hello Uri!]"+the reversed string and all you will have to put is
the definition of the number 7 I give you in base 12 reversed (which
is your 21). for example it will never be 21/3 but it can be
21/(12/2/2) which is same or actually right now it's
[[2+2]+2+[2+2]]+[2/2]+[[2+2]+2+[2+2]] (base 21) which means: replace
digit "2" with o (ono) and you will get
[[ono+ono]+ono+[ono+ono]]+[ono/ono]+[[ono+ono]+ono+[ono+ono]] and
that's my 21 for you friends. I will maybe define it later in a way
that all you have to say is just type the first o or n; maybe even
just think about me and maybe not do anything - it will work even for
real black wholes who never knew me. If there is anything like o=o
there then I will be able to communicate with them; just have to
define the binary language including rooting and it will not be too
complicated. my number for you can always be something like
"32.your-number.rebmun-ruoy.23" base 21 rooted; and by the way bad
guys if you confuse your 5 fingers with my (I will define 3 for you)
then you might find out that 1000 for you is not 8 but the allmighty
32^1000; and I will check all permutations to see you will not be
cheating again friends (US ARME). Actually I think I will let you
define only bases 0,1,2, and 5 and 5 will be 101 binary and also -1
base six so it will be the opposite of positive 2; if positive 2 will
be non (same as 0) then 5 will be negative 2 which is ono etc. then
you will have base 2 & 5 and define base 10 as the haff root of
100[2^2*5^5] and for me 10 will be base 21 and when you represent
numbers to me allways represent them in binary. Then I will let you
calculate your own haff roots and I will redefine them in such a way
that for me they will represent your number in base (21 is the only
prime number) and if your number will not be accurate enough we will
communicate. It will work my friends believe me, nobody will be able
to cheat this. Ask Steven H.King if he said we don't know anything
about "black holes" and then suddenly they radiate! but the color of
radiation is never white, I tell you. When we know each other we will
just be able to say something like "ono" and then communicate with
each other directly thought all black wholes in the universe! trust
me! no computer, no protocols and no HTTP/SMTP and other stupid
American STANDDAAARDS.

If you want to test me on this; remember: my date of birth this life
is 10.6; month June 30.6; year [20-01][70]; 21 is my number for you
and it is NOT EQUAL to the integer 21: can be the root of 20*22 (440)
or any number I choose to communicate as the number 10[base10] for
you. (which is 1.0 base 1.0 or 0.1 base 0.1).

This year 20082008 will be the last year of me counting integers
without prime numbers 21/7/71/70/72 etc. in them.

Actually I think the only operation will be the xnor: ono xnor ono
will become nono and non xnor non will become onon; then it can be
shortened again to "onononono":=non and "nonononon":=ono; so if any
message is symmetric from both sides and three times it can be taken
only the third middle; this means something like "010 plus 010 is 101"
and also "101 plus 101 is 010"; remember it's all base 010 and also
remember the haff missing so it should be mathematically true. Then
you just define your language for me; counting from the first letter
who is different but all your messages must be symmetric the same. If
you say "say" you must say "sayyas" otherwise it will not be legal,
any message will be xored with it's opposite; for example: 101==101
but 100==000 because 100 is not legal (onn or noo). remember this and
your life will be simple and actually maybe six digits is not good to
define, maybe it will allways be 9 digits and the haff root of 3 will
be mine to verify you. you will speak binary to me and also base 10; I
will check you in bases 3 and 7 and only if then we can of course do
the same you when you check me. 2 and 5 will be asking and 3 and 7
will be testing and we should never need any more prime numbers than
this. their permutations are unlimited and nobody will be able to
cheat me on this. I will define the protocols in such as way that
cheaters will have to repeat their brute forcing against each others -
if they don't know the difference between 2*5 and 3*7 it's their
problem and they will just be shrinking their haff (they will think
they are getting 10.6/21 but instead they will get 21/(10

Re: [li..........il: related]: Quantum relativity 0.1 completed counting backwords in time; all numbers base 1.0 [r] == fourtytwo.

[Uri]

Another update for you friends;

Thought about it and decided to double the quantum twentyone; basing
42 (fourtytwo) now which is really 1.000 (tripple counting 2;3;7
respectively; don't forget to count the same order as I am!) so my
number is [all strings are equal, my singularity; you can use any of
these or all of them as my "public key" whoever knows me, I will not
forget and if so remind me]:

oo
ii
--
++
;;
all.ways-be+symmetriccirtemmys+eb-syaw.lla
a11.ways-be+symmetr1001rtemmys+eb-syaw.11a
[any string here][ereh gnirts yna]
[your name when writing to me]
[em ot gnitirm nehm ewan rחoy]
[if i make "mistakes" then i want you to..
..find me]
00
11
22
55
null;NULL;LLUN;llun;Rr;null;NULL;LLUN;llun
uRI;Uri;irU!!!Uri;irU;IRu:
:06.10::30.06::30.10::01.03::90.03::01.90:

"fourtytwo" counts nine to me (manually) which means I can allways ask
you how much is fourtytwo and it must allways be equal to nine (in the
fourtytwo language), which is of course four::

oo::==fourtytwo::==nine::==four;
then four is the base counting here (four.dot.two). Then if I ask you
what is the haffroot of four then you will must have to know that it's
not two and not even twentyone (==nine==fourtytwo); but the numbers
2;3;7 (two;three;seven) multiplied by each other and then haff
logarithmic, but I already didn't define haff. For now you can use 21
or 1/2 or whatever you want to define: maybe just the square root of
42 if it works for you (don't forget: COMPLEX!) so that is
sufficiently complex for me now. And now since 42 is actually
7*3*2*2*3*7 then it's the base six number for you, remember the order
(I can change it sometimes):7*3*2*2*3*7 and now remember it's equal to
7!3!2!!2!3!7 respectively (which is: all permutations of 7;3;2;2;3;7
multiplied by each other; all of them can be defined as 0 by me
(0!0!0!!0!0!0 or 0!3!2!!2!3!0 or 7!3!2!!2!3!70 or 0!3!2!!2!3!7 etc.
etc.; however I define this for you!)
so now it's very simple: fourtytwo is nine but six for you; fortytwo
not same number (8); allways same 42 for friends and not the same for
non friends; RTL/LTR for those who cheat, and since it has 3 (your
prime) divisors (I will prove you the relativity of that too! 42 can
be SMALLER than all those numbers counting!) then my base can be any
number of o's: base 1000 or base 100 or base 1000(any) will
allways mean base 42. then of course 1.000base1.0 is 100 (2;7;3: first
base 2; then base 7; then base 3) then of course .0.0.1^(1.0.0) will
be 0.0.1.1.0.0( still haven't defined; it will work) and of course two
^ ten will be 4.2.0.1.1.0.2.4[base ten]. because you will allways get
the same 42 backwords. then of course 4.2.0.1 is EQUAL to 1.0.2.4;
which means literally nono.no.o.n.o.n.on.onon; anyway the math will
work too because it's symmetric and I will ask you to check this:
1000/24: how much it is in this millenium the sixth? of course checked
my calculator[decimal] and it said something like
41.67 [of course: not allowed to use 7
here]; which is allmost 42. then how much is 42*24?1008. Then of
course 1024 would be THREE milleniums plus twentyfour. Anyway
1000/24*17 is 708.333 decimal which is of course
התש"ח.

Anyway; since my number is 42 now and I WILL PROVE YOU THAT IT'S THE
SMALLEST PRIME NUMBER NOT EQUAL TO O (any number I choose) then if you
convert your any number to this base then I will be able to divisor
you. Just divide by 2;7; and 3 respectively and let me know how much
it is, all permutations of 2;7;3 (have six) and this is very
sufficient for me. If you represent it binary I can do it myself, will
do the algorithm later. remember to check all permutations and
calculate roots. Anyway if you understand this then all numbers are
divided by 42; for example 101 is 23 [mod 42] times [23 removed;
now checking 78/42==23809 [37 mod 42]; [37 removed; now checking
23772/42=566 [20 mod 42][20 removed; now checking :[0 mod 42] then 13.

then [[[13 * 42]+20] * 42]+37] * 42] + 23] turns out to be YOUR
101 (anybase) and remember I told you 42 is the ONLY prime number
I have! if you count and think 013;020;037;023 are not primes then of
course not because they are permutations of 42! but I did this in base
10 and it should work in your ANYBASE too! and if you don't believe me
then just check these numbers for me! check if the math works for you
and if not I must have made a mistake; anyway 101 of cou

Re: [li..........il: related]: Quantum relativity 0.1 completed counting backwords in time; all numbers base 21 [r].

[Uri]

[Robert Wallner; sent you something in private];

My dear friends (who are friends),

Thanks for the support of those who really support me and thanks for
the patience if there are some of you who don't know me or what I am
wanting from you [not a miake, I'm changing my language here];
anyway this issue is top critical because it involved me knowing
already the whole secrets of the nuclear atom on the quantum level, if
you understand what that means then I can assure you there will never
be any heavy water bomb; nuclear bomb; atomic bomb; TNT or any bombing
on this planet or anywhere on this galaxywide cosmos as long as I am
here, it is a Turing test and I know it but Turing also will have been
me recursively testing myself (I will prove that), was not a real
human and neither am I, but if I can still wokk* on the sand of the
beach of Tel-Aviv, feel the sand on my feet and the water is cold and
then breathe the air then I can assure you it's a high resolution dead
and alive simulation - REALITY can never be realer then this. So if
you want to know how much is the עצרת of o people - it's exactly the
same as no people and ono people and one people and none people and
known people and unknown people - if all mean the same to you then for
you really literally 0!==1! and why don't you take this as your first
counting/non counting number. for me I'll define:

1!:==0! times (-i) 1!; (-i is the negative i==myself)
0!:==1! times (-i) 0!

then already 0! is the negative 1! and they are both complex but
equally equal to you. Now remember I left the euclidean level of
spacetime and if you want to think about it think about a כיפה
(Kippa); turn it and if the top of my head points to the sky then I'm
on the same planet where ירושלים is and also the United States, but on
different eras millions of years apart, or millionth of the second,
same thing, I will explain later. anyway you can visualise me as o!!o
- the nose will be !! and the eyes will be o and if you think my o! is
equal to your !o - it is, depends if you view me from the inside or
our. Anyway for you my friends I'll switch to counting only complex
numbers from now on; allways separate and distinguish between colours
the way you can define them - define as many colours as you can and
rotate them in your own meaning of truth or lie, then if you want to
radiate your colour to me then just rotate this colour backwords. give
each colour a number and I will show you it will work and remember the
order of the letters of your elefbet. Then I will just define my own
universal language who will work everywhere including the [never yet
been] cosmos of future "black holes", my lightspeed will be black
nothing (simultaneously allways black everywhere nowhere/coloUUr to be
changed later maybe) [by the way the UU in the word coloUUr means
doubleme Uri and can also be coloUUUr or color etc. I don't know
anyone who said this befour me]. Then I'm already existing
simultaneously inside any black whole anywhere in the UNKNOWN
universe! My language there is just (21 big Us rotating towards the
inside if I'm far away spacetime expanding or rotating outside if I'm
herenow exploding timespace shrinks I am dyingandaliving and then just
choose my color of truth (my real blood is red now: reality) and
then think about this in RGB (any coloUUUr you want). Then already you
know that I'm here everywhere rotating towards you; you will be able
to see me or not depends on my matter/ant.i.matter for you
(o/positive/negative i!) so I will switch now letters (you can choose
any) and then o! will be o[ne]! [עצרת של אדם אחד] and i! will be
i[one] [עצרת של יון חיובי או שלילי אחד], of course אחד/אחת depends on
you/me/our sex and counting too; but remember also that i^4 is one
which is o(efes) in my reality, only in the Euclides reality i^4 is
one, in my reality I already tell you that 4 will be 4.2, whois twice
2.1, whois twice 1.0, whois twice 10.5[decimal counting], then I will
assure you that I WILL be able to locate any "non-prime-number" in
your counting and replace it with YOUR prime numbers in the decimal
counting; but remember this too:

1. counting renamed by me: ANY counting (don't assume 0<1<2<3<4<5<6<7
because I can define my own real math where 0==7;then [any order] such
as 0<3<6<2<5<1<4<0 :; that's just a simple example of 3mod7; can be
backwords; starting 1 then: 0<1<5<2<6<3<0 and then you already think
you are base 6 because I didn't define 2+2 (square root of 1); but
then I don't need the digit 4 and it will be for you 0<1<4<2<5<3<0;
this is NOT a mistake since I already defined everything for me (can
be changed later), and remember for you I only define ONE non-counting
number, for example if you think it is 2 then 5 will be your 2 upside
downed; which means 10/2 in your language

Re: [li..........il: related]: Quantum relativity 0.1 completed counting backwords in time; all numbers base 1.0 [r] == fourtytwo.

[Uri]

tion and
should find it's first 5 divisors NOT including my 0 (allways divides
any number, my only real prime number, but remember addition,
multiplication, logarithmic, any are the same in my math!); then I
should come out with the first 6 divisors of this number (going 6
dimensions simlultaneously) and believe me - the Americans know how to
do it for decades!  I will try to program a working program when I
have time.

Anyway, when I rotate I also add somethings to my strings, then
strings who repeat themselves add to each other. It's like the pascal
triangle; something like this (but more dimensions):

(both linear and logarithmic:)

0.7 == 0/7 == 7/0 == 7.0 == 0.5 == 0.1 == ANY number (also complex)

  0.7  |||  7.0
 0.7||7.0 +|||+ 0.7||7.0
0.7||7.0||0.7++|||++7.0||0.7||7.0

so you see, the plus signs grow much faster at the both sides of the
straight line, then all "black light" will go there and expand
exponentially; all permutations will be checked simultaneously and I
can even implement it on a linear computer, very fast dividing ANY
number BUT it will also work from real "black holes", no need to
program them, just accept radiation and it will appear. Actually all
"black matter" is like this such as my hair (except white hairs), same
with red matter, blue matter, green matter etc. Spacetime has colours
and they depend on us and our relativity to them; nobody's "colour
blinded" and that's just another US conspiracy.

When I have time I will try implementing a working software - I'm very
busy but TRUST me - the Americans already knew this long time ago and
they are hiding all this from all us, their slaves (is't it supposed
to be the end of slavery time in calendar)?

Anyway, the idea is to check each permutation simultaneously with
strings, replace and check again, convert to my base 42 (42 will do
fine here too; check it!; I just wanted to go exponentially faster)
and then when I can represent the number in base 42 - double/tripple
its size and find the divisors. It will be very simple even for big
numbers - no number is too big. But remember they are not numbers - it
can be my our your picture too! be careful and that's why we need our
own encryption system and not related to the United States. I'm so
pissed off with them - I already want to create a separate network not
related at all to the Internet (at least - not dependent on it). It
will not be owned by me or anybody - and will be zillion times faster.
But remember - they will do what they can to prevent it. It's a lot of
money involved. They can lose the entire domain name system, ICANN,
VERISIGN, everything! The whole nuclear secrets, going to the moon.
Everything! I can even relocate the moon for them. It's not a joke,
it's truth magic. When you understand what truth is, then the speed of
lies is the only one limited here. The speed of truth can never be
limited. Ask them how much is their speed of light, how much is one
lightyear + another lightyear, how much is one meter + one meter and
how much is one nanometer + two. There is no difference - I never saw
straight lightyears and there are never are. Why don't you see the
stars when you look at this screen? Because it's an RGB screen and we
are all brainwashed, my friends. we all are.

Uri First deadandalive
Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559
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I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity
redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].

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Re: [li..........il: related]: Quantum relativity 0.1 completed counting backwords in time; all numbers base 1.0 [r] == fourtytwo.

[Uri]

Friends,

if you want to see the math first, it's very simple:

Google says 1.101 + 1.101 [is: ]= 2.2, of course
he's lying again and it's 2.202 (my calculator). Of course
also 7.77 + 7.0707 = 14.77 (google lies) and
14.77000707 ( my calculator; microsoft). Then of course for me it
should work the same for 0.010 + 0.010 (binary) which
is decimal [9 * (0.010 + 0.010) = 1.99982 [google
lying] or 1.999818

Then of course, ANY prime number should be like that: (p+1+1/p)^2 but
I will not check exponent 2 but exponent p! and then and number (N)
p1*p2*p3*p4*p5 I will check (N+1+1/N)^N. The equation is actually
logarithmic (haff positive; haff negative N) in MANY dimensions; so
that (for example) log (base 984210) of
010010011202030005001110010412051302 haffed and exponented would be
about 100050043488396370.6171470390084.. (microsoft calculator,
not accurate...)

Then, this number 1/xed is 9.9949981542584562121086387579778e-18
(floating point, mine will be accurate) and then you can already
calculate the haff root of the average p1*p2*p3*p4*p5, then just
exponent it and you will get the real primes, remember to check
dimensions and divide properly and then I will receive as many
divisors I want within O(the size of the number binary representaion)
or something like this. Maybe twice as much but still very simple,
nobody will be able to cheat me on this. Remember that I can
distinguish between positive/negative zeros and no math will do this.
Then if you continue with the example of google, even 14.77 is
enough to know that the prime number is 7; but for me it will be much
easier - you will see. The Americans knew that already since the
beginning of time counting!

Here's another example: 101000.000101 + 101000.0101 =
202000.010201 (101 is binary prime);
// times 5;
101.051005 + 101.051005  = 202.10201;
101.051005 + 101.0051005  = 202.0561055
101.051005 + 101.00051005  = 202.05151505
// times 0.49 (0.7*0.7);
989800.0499849 + 989800.0499849 = 1979600.0999698
989800.027491695 + 989800.027491695 = 1979600.05498339
989800.0252423745 + 989800.0252423745 = 1979600.050484749
// all agree on 1979600; [1979600 + [1/1979600]]^1979600 would be a
very big number, but I could define only the middle part as what
interests me.

square root of [1979600] is 1406.9825 ; [1406.9825 + [1/1406.9825]] is
1406.9832; squared is 1979601.72508224 :: then 19796 is (101 times
196); 101 times 49 times 4; then 101 would be prime (any base). If
instead I started with any other number then I would get it's
divisors. Even if I receive one binary number whois a multiplication
of two big primes - it will be very easy to locate them. Just expand
them exponentially until I receive the combination of the original
primes.

For example: 92851476503082611 * 1; haff [sq.] root is
30471540247.103133759239626326128 ;
30471540247.1031337592724438336 including opposite root (of course,
should not let computer round like this).
squared: 928514765030826110001.951
1-30471540247.1031337592724438336 ::= -30471540246.1031337592724438336
then squared:928514764969883029508.79373248094
difference is 60943080493.2062675186 ; added 1/x:
60943080493.20626751861640875374
squared;divided by 4: haffroot: 304715402 integer;
92851476503082611 mod 304715402 is: 287061007
now I can already represent 92851476503082611 as a permutation of
304715402 and 287061007, if I calculate 304715402!287061007! then
92851476503082611will divide them. but this is all done base ten
automatically. I will do it my bases and then it will work.

Uri First deadandalive
Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559
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I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity
redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].

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Re: [li..........il: related]: Quantum relativity 0.1 - redefining numbers;

[Uri]

e from other planets to have. Think about it! They are really not
you! from other planets! you will not be able to notice this if you
are not their friends!  Think about it, open your horizoning (h/o
reasoning) and understand that two is an irrational number too.

Uri


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I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity
redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].

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Re: [li..........il: related]: Quantum relativity 0.1 - redefining numbers;

[Uri]

 mistake it's OK. please do! you are human! then I will
really know it is you).

here! I will create something better than that, but in the meantime I
will search for substrings of these (any permutation of
"-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-" or reversed or substring of it:
"-1-6-5-4-3-2-7-1-6-5-4-3-2-7-"), if my human eyes will see many
messages with this subject then I willl understand a real human is
trying to contact me, then tell me some details about yourself (even
send it encrypted, image, zipped, password, whatever you want but I
need to know whoyouare (your true identity to me) and how many people
are you writing to me).

Now, here's another public key:

[-four;;ruof]
[teen;;neet-]
[-nine;;enin]
[tnen;;nent-]
[-five;;evif]
[---]
  [--]
  [---]
[---]
 []
  [---]
[;;fermat;;]
[;;tamref;;]
  [---]
  []
[---]
  [---]
  [--]

this means; of course, the number of times (permutations) you can say
"1945 will never happen again" in the year 1495 language (fermat was
of course wrong), remember all imaginary numbers (for each human
quantum personality - another imaginary counting will be created) - so
this actually means the 1495th imaginary toor (meant root, my left
hand wrote toor, live it this way) of the "real" number 1495; the
1945th imaginary root of the "real" number 1945; of course they may or
may not depend on each other, depends what type of human you are.

OK, now a real smart "Turing test" for Turing himself (of course;
Turing was a recursive me testing myself; him testing (him)myself
etc.): how many times you can write the number o in different ways
(depends on your permutations of o, remember the arabic dot .) . here:
my now created permutaion (NOT RANDOM - HUMAN CREATED):

[o-O-0-.-O-o-0+0/0|o\O/o_0!!o-o-o-o-o-o-oo-o-o-o-o-o]

then right-to-left: create manually (computers: do whatever you want.
you will NEVER pass this test):

o-o-o-oo-o-o-o-oo-o-O-o-.=.-!Ooo
(of course, ANYTHING




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redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].

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[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] Quantum relativity 0.1 - redefining numbers;

[Uri]

-7]
[2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7]
[3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2]
[4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2-3]
[5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2-3-4]
[6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-2-3-4-6]
[7-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-1-2-3-4-5-6]

(if you make a mistake it's OK. please do! you are human! then I will
really know it is you).

here! I will create something better than that, but in the meantime I
will search for substrings of these (any permutation of
"-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-7-2-3-4-5-6-1-" or reversed or substring of it:
"-1-6-5-4-3-2-7-1-6-5-4-3-2-7-"), if my human eyes will see many
messages with this subject then I willl understand a real human is
trying to contact me, then tell me some details about yourself (even
send it encrypted, image, zipped, password, whatever you want but I
need to know whoyouare (your true identity to me) and how many people
are you writing to me).

Now, here's another public key:

[-four;;ruof]
[teen;;neet-]
[-nine;;enin]
[tnen;;nent-]
[-five;;evif]
[---]
 [--]
 [---]
   [---]
[]
 [---]
[;;fermat;;]
[;;tamref;;]
 [---]
 []
   [---]
 [---]
 [--]

this means; of course, the number of times (permutations) you can say
"1945 will never happen again" in the year 1495 language (fermat was
of course wrong), remember all imaginary numbers (for each human
quantum personality - another imaginary counting will be created) - so
this actually means the 1495th imaginary toor (meant root, my left
hand wrote toor, live it this way) of the "real" number 1495; the
1945th imaginary root of the "real" number 1945; of course they may or
may not depend on each other, depends what type of human you are.

OK, now a real smart "Turing test" for Turing himself (of course;
Turing was a recursive me testing myself; him testing (him)myself
etc.): how many times you can write the number o in different ways
(depends on your permutations of o, remember the arabic dot .) . here:
my now created permutaion (NOT RANDOM - HUMAN CREATED):

[o-O-0-.-O-o-0+0/0|o\O/o_0!!o-o-o-o-o-o-oo-o-o-o-o-o]

then right-to-left: create manually (computers: do whatever you want.
you will NEVER pass this test):

o-o-o-oo-o-o-o-oo-o-O-o-.=.-!Ooo
(of course, ANYTHING you want)

[sorry, sent by mistake. editing and will send again. my protocol will
allow friends of mine to read & comment while I'm still typing].

this will be my secret key for you, my friends. ANY number of this key
(me not counting) will mean I'm counting to 7 here (of course, the
value of 7 might change for non-friends).

[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]
[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]
[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]
[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]

(include this in ANY communication with me; I might even make this
SMTP compatible later when I have time).

(OK sending, and willl continue from here)

If I'm writing too much, please filter my messages, or (if you really
don't want to hear from me), write me something humanish such as
"please don't send to this mailing list" with my public keys; at least
three times with different subjects (change the digits to whatever you
want); here:

[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]
[~]
[~]
[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]


Uri First deadandalive
Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Update: Left HTTP,  and port numbering. send me papers or to
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I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity
redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].

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Update: Left HTTP,  and port numbering. send me papers or to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .

I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity
redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 

Fwd: [o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] Quantum relativity o.i!!i.o - redefining numbers;

[Uri]

[+o+]

Oh by the way,

my human friends,

here for you real humans, who are not spammers, here's another
definition of e (the regular one): "+o+" (plus;efes;plus), can also be
"+O+" or "+0+" (+o+ looks nicer); which means: "just calculate the
symmetric sum of all numbers counting from here both directions, all
positive, then this will be your real e. if you write it my base, then
each base you have to define with two rational numbers, like this:

0.0
1.1
2.2
3.3
4.4

//these are your integers, regulated symmetric, then for you it will
be [(0.0)+(10.1)(base 1)+(100.01)(base 2) etc.; but remember you are
just adding "0.0" and then "10.01" and "100.001" symetrically here!
then it will just be "011" for you,
then remember the bases are also exponential! for example 100 is 10^10
(binary:2^2) but base ten it will be already 100=ten^ten! not ten^two
and let computers understand this! then the first turing test for
spammers will be just "the dot", define your own language first. let
them define their language with the number of dots. then +o+ ---> let
them calculate in their own language, if I ask for the first 1000
digits they can give me the first 10 million digits of e (if they
understand me!) (of course I can't read it) but then I will understand
them! I will "ask them" to "correct my mistakes" and then understand
their language! and for you humans, just remind me what is e, how you
calculated it, the sum of all permutations written backwords, then of
course e^7 will be the sum of all permutations up to 7! backwords
(like minus (o!1!2!3!4!5!6!7!) but written in a way such as
[1/0[1+1/1[1+1/2[1+1/3[1+1/4[1+1/5[1+1/6[1+1/7[... (forever);
for me I can just define it as sum(i/o++) and shortish just +o+ is OK.
my protocol will be humanish: connect directly to my computer, or
write a computer program whom I can trust, can answer my humanish
questions for you and I will make them very simple for friends, very
impossible for not-wanted-mail and very not-relying on filters of
American + Israeli start-ups of Nazzdaqqqs lyiers etc.

Only those of you who are not working in USA corporations will be able
to receive trust from me. Sorry! I don't even trust my own mirror
image! only humanish trust and not binary (ee evaluate
you!)...

by the way, going exponential means "sum all linear"; then "io++oi"
will just mean the same as +o+ on the linear level; then this number
"io++oi" will also be the computer programming representation (no need
for recursion), then of course just sum all linear numbers


[~]
[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]

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want); here:

[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]
[~]
[~]
[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]


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Update: Left HTTP,  and port numbering. send me papers or to
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I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity
redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].

Read my autoreply for more information [my HTTP/SMTP not working].

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Update: Left HTTP,  and port numbering. send me papers or to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .

I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity
redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].

Read my autoreply for more information [my HTTP/SMTP not working].

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[o-o-

[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] Quantum relativity o.n.e.e.n.o - redefining numbers;

[Uri]

+o+
-o-
i.i
ni.in
eni.ine
nine.enon
none.enin
mom.wow
wow.mon

[+o+]

My friends,

About the code...

I went a little too far with the numbers.  Just wanted to say one
thing - reverse engineer your own human language - then compress and
mix letter in such a way that even YOU will NOT understand yourself.
The idea is that if you get my message backwords - you will not know
it is backwords! only then it's reallly compressed. Now define your
own languages - each person and also in groups.  Then each person
should has his or her own key for not understanding - for example mine
is "cons*racy". if you see this whole letter reversed, you will know
it's reversed right? then it's NOT compressed. Send letters to each
other and also to your own mirror image - only when you DON'T
understand and don't know when it's reversed or not - then start
understanding yourself. For example, if a computer got my this message
reversed, or misspelled - he can correct me right? then he's spying on
me (reading my message). I will show you that you can compress even 42
megabytes (or giga) into one small message - I will prove it to you.
but first you need to define your own language. My language is
"ycar.ip.snoc" revresed. then you can compress each other's messages
and send them together! for example if there are one million people,
sending one million messages each (can be words), then you can shuffle
them and send them together, count only the number of letters in each
word and compress, send it again with different encodings / networks
and then you will have quantum reality too. I will show you this. but
first - think about this. if I write you such a long text - I can
compress each word to a dot, then just count the number of dots and
spaces, then replace all dots and spaces with ". " and send you just a
dot and a space! I will prove it to you that you can do this, the dot
will contain all the information you want, I will just tell you the
NUMBER of the message I sent you - if it's a big number then I will
compress it too! actually you don't even need a number, just check
like this:

me:my language:any messages?

and then you will be receiving them directly. I will show you it's
feasible but it will work much faster without ARPANET! I will prove
this.

sorry can't reverse all now... but siht evorp llim I...

eviladnadaed; Uri First deadandalive
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[~]
[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]

If I'm writing too much, please filter my messages, or (if you really
don't want to hear from me), write me something humanish such as
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want); here:

[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]
[~]
[~]
[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]



Update: Left HTTP,  and port numbering. send me papers or to
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I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity
redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].

Read my autoreply for more information [my HTTP/SMTP not working].

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Update: Left HTTP,  and port numbering. send me papers or to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .

I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity
redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].

Read my autoreply for more information [my HTTP/SMTP not working].

- This message is confidential -

[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]
[---humans:always copy this--]
[o-o-o-.OO.-o-o-o][o-o-o-.OO.-o-o-o]
[--siht ypoc syamla:snawuh---]
[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]

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Re: [0-0-0-0-1-2-3-] Linux? need help with DNS.....

[Uri]

by the way you can see my sendmail.cf file here:

http://www.speedy.net/sendmail/sendmail.cf.txt
tried but couldn't define the variable $usn-error-message or
  left it

 /etc/rc.d/init.d/named status
rndc: connect failed: connection refused
not working yet.

Uri First deadandalive
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Update: Left HTTP,  and port numbering. send me papers or to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .

I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity
redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].

Read my autoreply for more information [my HTTP/SMTP not working].

[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]
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Re: [0-0-0-0-1-2-3-] Linux? need help with DNS.....

[Uri]

+o+

friends... can you recommend me a good DNS software for linux? GPL.
I'm tired with Bind. Actually I want to create my own human-friendly
DNS software, but don't want to start from scratch. any ideas?

by the way - same with sendmail and HTTP (using apacche) - I want to
open ports for DNS, SMTP, HTTP etc. - abuse them for creating separate
networks for communicating with friends. any ideas? (if you know
someone who can help - ask them)

Thanks,
Uri.

On 4/27/08, Uri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> by the way you can see my sendmail.cf file here:
>
> http://www.speedy.net/sendmail/sendmail.cf.txt
> tried but couldn't define the variable $usn-error-message or
>   left it
>
>  /etc/rc.d/init.d/named status
> rndc: connect failed: connection refused
> not working yet.
>
> Uri First deadandalive
> Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Update: Left HTTP,  and port numbering. send me papers or to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
>
> I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity
> redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
> you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
> Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
> at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
> (base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
> identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
> number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
> left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].
>
> Read my autoreply for more information [my HTTP/SMTP not working].
>
> [o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]
> - This message is confidential -
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>


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Update: Left HTTP,  and port numbering. send me papers or to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .

I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity
redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].

Read my autoreply for more information [my HTTP/SMTP not working].

[o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o]
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Re: [0-0-0-0-1-2-3-] my idea of speedy communication....

[Uri]

friends,

my idea of speedy communication is this: instead of one e-mail address
with one supplier, we will have a strict alias in our language, all
our friends will know us this way, and then we can have even 50 (or 2,
or 3, or 500) e-mail addresses; they will all lead to the same person,
and when people try to locate us - they willl not depend on one e-mail
supplier. for example if I want to stop using Google, and you send me
email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then my public table will redirect
this messages to you - without asking Google. It's like the old domain
/ IP tables of 20+ years ago, but without the Americans making the
money (ICANNN etc.). we willl be able to provide mail to our users,
BUT, nobody should rely on one service provider. actually e-mail
addresses willl work like IP addresses - you can connect from any IP
address and read your mail. So, I am looking for people who want to
join this network, let users use their domain names (I will also add
domain names of mine) and eventually we willl not need domain names at
all! I will show you! you will be able to contact me at
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (for example) even without sending to Gmail!
it will work automatically - I will use ANY of my addresses to check
mail, you will use ANY of my addresses to send, even when you send to
a DIFFERENT address, I will receive it the same way.

RWE, or other friends  - want to join?

Uri [usn - my new name online) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; can short this to [EMAIL 
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Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Update: Left HTTP,  and port numbering. send me papers or to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .

I completed my 0.1 version of real deadanyalive quantum relativity
redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].

Read my autoreply for more information [my HTTP/SMTP not working].

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[+o+][linux-il] Google not obeying meta tags

[Uri]

[+o+]

Dear friends, linux and hackers,

not the first time I am saying this: Google.com don't obey meta tags!
They are caching the content of another website on the index of
www.speedy.net [http://www.google.com/search?q=www.speedy.net] - at
the index / snippet and link to cache, but pressing the link leads to

"Your search - cache:2_deBtIKxn4J:www.speedy.net/ www.speedy.net - did
not match any documents. "

But, on the index you can see the latest update, Here:

"Google [alpha] // 2008-04-27-07:04:01Google
*. Google is the large number 10100, that is, the digit 1 followed by
one hundred zeros (in decimal representation). The term was coined in
1920 by ...
www.speedy.net/ - 20k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this "

(current site is not working, DNS problem, need help with this (but if
you redirect to the correct IP (same as name server speedy2000.net) it
will work.)

It's very annoying that Google is caching and especially not updating
the real URL, it's a part of their conspiracy trying to control the
world's online content.

Uri
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Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] .

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redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].

Read my autoreply for more information [my HTTP/SMTP not working].

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[+o+][friends/linux/hackers] need linux hosting - virtual server

[Uri]

[+o+]

Hi friends / linux hackers,

Do you know good virtual server hosting? Can be abroad too, but I
prefer not in America.  South Africa would be nice, if not then Turkey
or Europe, anywhere but not expensive and where there is freedom of
speech (not too many problems
with American big corporations).

I need to relocate from Netvision. They are terrible. They don't even
agree to restart my server although it's not working, they are
speaking about bank hours and me signing a new contract now, although
my contract includes restarting. I also realized I'm paying a lot for
dedicated server, although a virtual server would be enough for me
(although - a lot of work to install everything again).

I need virtual hosting with unlimited domain names, DNS, SMTP, SSH,
HTTP and unlimited port numbers. not a lot of traffic, I do need as
much as I can get disk space, currently have about 100GB with my
dedicated server (double raid), but there is a problem with the file
system and Netvision don't want to check it.

I have an idea to speed communications and disk space by millions++
(terabytes will be commpressed to square root level & below (even log
level)).  I'll tell you about it later.

It takes me time to respond to mail you send me. If something is
urgent, write my name on the subject line and the word "Urgent". I'm
using public computers and some of them are very slow. Thanks for your
understanding.

Uri.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] .

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redefining back timespacing intergalactic worldwide [top secret: if
you have any US ARMY* on your planet they will never allow it].
Recounting back every second since twice BCC doubling + not counting
at all any uncountable; using only prime countable numbers equal to 21
(base 21 recursivley) who are all equal to 0base0 and 1base1 who are
identical twins base 21 [21===the number of fingers;eyes;body parts &
number of equal signs not equal counting both left to right; right to
left and all 21 dimensions of nothing].

Read my autoreply for more information [my HTTP/SMTP not working].

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Re: [+o+][linux-il] Google not obeying meta tags

[Uri]

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Tomer Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First of all, are you sure you want to send the same message to all the
> mailing lists available and to every person on the planet? I guess not, so
> please don't.

I didn't know every preson on the planet is registered to either
linux-il or hackers-il and that these are all the mailing lists
available on the planet. but I am going to change SMTP and HTTP
such that there will be no difference between them. And, you will read
only the messages you want.  If you are interested, read my previous
messages on this subject (to the linux-il mailing list).  I think my
messages are related to linux-il and hackers-il, but if not - let me
know (list admins) and sorry.

> If it won't help, I think you'll get better luck to ask Google directly on
> their support groups. Here is the link to the Hebrew support group:
> http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-iw
>
>
> Tomer Cohen
> http://tomercohen.com

You probably also have a split personality like I do. You are both
http://tomercohen.com and [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I don't know Google.com,
they are not my friends (on the contrary), I have enough from asking
them in English and they insisting of replying in Hebrew (or not
replying at all), I have evidence that they are not obeying their meta
tags, if tomercohen.com  likes them then it's not my problem, I don't
have to contact every stupid search engine that ignores meta tags,
whether or not they are traded on the
nazdag.hp..united.america.comm.

> You may want to check your site status in Google Webmaster Tools
> (http://www.google.com/webmasters). As I understand from your situation your

Sorry you don't understand. It's none of their business if my site is
down or not, they didn't drop it from their search results ("snippet")
but only the cache, actually (you propably never read about it) - the
whole reason they have cache is for sites not working, who needs cache
when the site is working anyway?  They removed from the cache because
it's illegal, they indexed it anyway although it's not, I wrote about
it previously and you can also follow the links:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22uri+even+chen%22+site:speedy.net&hl=en&filter=0

Actually they did cache the "no cache" pages and then they removed
them, instead of not indexing the following and caching at all, I have
more evidence on my website cut currently it's not working, when my
website will work you will be able to see this, it may take time and
sorry about it, but actually it's OK for me to be siteless until I
find a better web hoster and
restart from the nothing again.

By the way, with my technology - cache will be done automatically, you
will not need any servers, it's feasible and I will prove you, whoever
thinks it's not feasible - put five dollars on it, then if there are
enough people then I will put five too, then create a big message for
me and compress and hash it, if I can't decrypt it then I'll eat my
hat and you'll get my five dollars, if I can then you will eat yours,
but I don't have time to invest in it if not enough money involved, I
have better things to do then read somebody else's mail, I will just
prove it to you if it's worth investing my time, otherwise it might
take many years for me to develop it while doing other things to earn
money..

in the meantime - just create two md5 hashes - one of the full message
and one of haff the message, I will find another message so that
md5(haff) and md5(full) is this same md5 - whether it's your message
or not. then do it again, but haff will be divided in another way -
for example one third from the had and one sixth from the tail etc. -
I will show you ways to commpress intinite memory into very small disk
space, then of course it will speed your communications too. [but no
patents - patents holders don't write to me - don't communicate with
me - unless your patent is registered on the name of the general
public (and then - why a patent? just reveal your "secrets" and that's
all)].

Uri.

> site is currently DOWN, so Google decide to drop it from the search results
> until you correct your technical problems.

whoever wrote this (above) would probably never be accepted to work at
Google.comm.

>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Uri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > [+o+]
> >
> > Dear friends, linux and hackers,
> >
> > not the first time I am saying this: Google.com don't obey meta tags!
> > They are caching the content of another website on the index of
> > www.speedy.net [http://www.google.com/search?q=www.speedy.net] - at
> > the index / snippet and link to cach

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

[Uri Bruck]

b...@rymland.com wrote:


You may want to start with this:
http://www.moital.gov.il/NR/exeres/1A0A7AB5-68D4-4739-801D-44390FEE7A39.htm

> > That's exactly the reason why I haven't done it myself as well. The
> > necessity to appear in court
> > which means taking a day off or something.
> >
> > A few complimentary questions:
> > 1) Have anyone heard of successful small claims suits so far? Is it that
> > easy, straight-forward and 
> > pretty sure to have a win?
> >   
>   
Generally or specifically on spam?


> > 2) Are you NOT allowed to be represented by somebody authorized by you?
> > (YIPUI KOACH).
> >   
>   
See (4) in the above URL.

> > 3) Anyone know if I can accumulate and coordinate several suits,
> > administratively, to one court appearance? 
>   
If each claim is against a separate entity then they are separate
claims, and you don't get to set the court dates.

> > If the 
> > answer is yes, then that would make it easy for me to proceed, since 1000
> > NIS isn't that much when you deduct the day off cost you have in your
> > standard day time job. 
> >
> > Boaz.
> >
> >
> >   
> >
>   


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Re: problem with xls files to read in open office

[Uri Bruck]

This document appears to be in SpreadsheetML
The openoffice wiki has a document on this:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/SpreadsheetML

From a cursory look it looks like OpenOffice 3 is supposed to be able to
handle this.

sara fink wrote:
> Regarding the xls files, I just found out that orange xls files where
> you have the details of the conversations aren't readable in open
> office calc. However it work in microsoft excel. In OpenOffice Calc,
> it appears in the begining as xml tags and the rest is something
> unordered. So those who do care, please write or talk to orange DATA
> *663. Otherwise, getting details of the conversations, are charged.
> There is  an workaround to solve this problem. The workaround is to
> open the file in microsoft excel, save as xls and then open it in open
> office.
>
> Here is how it looks like in OpenOffice calc without the converted file:
>
>  
>   
>   
>  
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
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>   
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>   
>   
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
> 
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
> פירוט שיחות   
>   
>   
> 
>   
>   
>  
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
>  
>   
>   
> תאריך שיחה
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
> שעת שיחה  
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
> מספר שחויג
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
> שם מחויג  
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
> שם המפעיל 
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
> משך שיחה לחיוב
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
> משך שיחה בפועל
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
> תעריף זמן אויר orange 
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
> תעריף שימוש ברשתות תקשורת אחרות   
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
> סה"כ לחיוב
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
> הערות 
>   
>   
> 
>   
>   
>  
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>
>
> I am definitely going to complain about it.
> 
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jobop - asterisk person

[Uri Bruck]

Hi,

There's an outfit looking for a full time asterisk person

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Re: jobop - asterisk person - ps

[Uri Bruck]

Uri Bruck wrote:

> Hi,
>
> There's an outfit looking for a full time asterisk person
>
>   

Contact email - da...@a.co.il

I have no further details - please don't reply to me

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Re: eTextBooks (for kids)

[Uri Bruck]

Justin wrote:

> When I left high-school in the capitalist USA in 1994 this was also
> the process.  I can only assume it still is. 
>
> It's just sensible not to throw out all the books every year.  It's
> not really tied to any political ideology. 
In Haifa, Israel we have the same system

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Re: How to say in Hebrew "intermittent"?

[Uri Bruck]

Bick's Technical Dictionary offers
סירוגי
as one of the options
It's transparent, due to the obvious relation to לסירוגין.
Sound good to me.

Dotan Cohen wrote:
> How to say in Hebrew "intermittent"? Words such as תקופתי, מקוטע, או
> לא קבוע do not fit as I am trying to describe a bug to Orange.
> Specifically, the bug is intermittent but I have yet to figure out
> under what conditions it appears. How would you say that?
>
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Re: linux beivrit

[Uri Bruck]

On 07/05/2010 04:31 PM, Raz wrote:
> Hey Nadav
> When i started i tried to work with open office in Hebrew, but i
> simply spent too much time
> trying to fix things, indentation, merging pictures and so on.
> also, how can ask for people to send me their comments ? I did not see
> track changes.
>   
It's under the Edit menu and it's called Changes.
I tried making changes on one  office suite and
viewing/accepting/rejecting on the other  - that also works.

>
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Nadav Har'El  wrote:
>   
>> On Mon, Jul 05, 2010, Raz wrote about "Re: linux beivrit":
>> 
>>>> Open office would have been a much better choice (or lyx, or latex or a few
>>>> others)
>>>> 
>>> I tried open format. does not look good at all.
>>>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> A lot of things can be said against Open Office (although I personally
>> disagree with most of them), but I don't see how you can say its output
>> (I assume you don't mean its UI) doesn't look good. What didn't you like?
>> The fonts? The default style or layout? Or what?
>>
>> In my experience, you can create beautiful documents in Open Office, and it's
>> not harder to do so than with with Microsoft Office, so I wonder whater
>> problems you are referring to.
>>
>> Anyway, it's probably too late now for this document (converting formats
>> is a harder issue), but it's something to think about for your next
>> document :-)
>>
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Re: How to say "reference implementation"?

[Uri Bruck]

On 03/14/2011 11:44 AM, Oron Peled wrote:
> On Monday, 14 בMarch 2011 10:56:59 Robert Wallner wrote:
>> I'm not a linguist either, but what about
>> מימוש סמך
> לא רע, מה לגבי מימוש יחוס.
>
שניהם נשמעים טוב.
בין שניהם הייתי בוחר על מימוש יחוס.



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Re: How to say "reference implementation"?

[Uri Bruck]

On 03/14/2011 03:04 PM, Uri Bruck wrote:

> On 03/14/2011 11:44 AM, Oron Peled wrote:
>> On Monday, 14 בMarch 2011 10:56:59 Robert Wallner wrote:
>>> I'm not a linguist either, but what about
>>> מימוש סמך
>> לא רע, מה לגבי מימוש יחוס.
>>
> שניהם נשמעים טוב.
> .

בין שניהם הייתי בוחר  מימוש יחוס

>
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vtiger crm anyone ?

[Uri Goldberg]

Hi

my old ubuntu gone offline corrupted / misused ... though has backup dumps
(both /var... and mysql)

I have backups and I want to restore to a centos (running a new copy of
vtigercrm)

never really worked with vtiger though the machine running it went
corrupted,
so I have an  xwebserver which was already been migrated to cloud.. and
thought of using it...

does anyone out there have an idea / any previous experience ?
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Re: sms via icq with the new mobile companies

[Uri Bruck]

  
  
On 08/06/2012 10:39 AM, Nadav Har'El
  wrote:


  On Sun, Aug 05, 2012, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote about "Re: sms via icq with the new mobile companies":

  
So not only check your bill carefully, but before you start sending
lots of free SMSs, make sure it does not cost you to receive them.

  
  
In Israel, you *do not* pay for incoming SMSs - it is the sender that
pays for them.

What can happen, however - is *fraud*: The cellular providers in Israel
invented the trick of SMS "services", where you subscribe to some service
(e.g., get a summary of the news once every day) and you pay for this
service however much the service provider decides - often you pay per
(incoming) SMS.

Reverse SMS billing is not exclusive to Israel, and I doubt it's an
Israeli invention.

   The problem is that much (if not 99%) of this concept is
used not for legitimate services, but for fraud. E.g., you may find
yourself unintentionally subscribed to a "service" that sends you random
messages, or (in your case) messages sent over the web seemingly for
free, and then bill you for 0.5 shekels, or even 50 shekels if they
wish, for each such SMS. Nobody (especially not the cellular providers,
who make a nice commission from the fraud) cares if you were never told
that this service costs you money.

A few years ago I did some work for an outfit that sent such reverse
billing SMS. The company they sent them through required them to
follow a double verification procedure before a new number could be
added as a subscriber.  Services are all listed on your cell phone
bill, and removing them is as simple as calling the company listed
there and telling them to stop the service.
Starting last year, one type of service, the one used for trivia
games, is opt-in. Phoned are blocked by default.

  

It is unbelievable that several years after this fraud technique became
popular, the ministry of communication hasn't closed this loophole.
The closest they have come to doing so was to force the cellular
providers to let you tell them that you don't want "SMS services" (not
the normal SMSs, just the paid services) and you can no longer be
defrauded in this manner.






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Re: Qtext

[Uri Bruck]

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Moshe Kaminsky wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Of course, this is an important question. I just thought that the first
> question is whether we have any chance of getting the source. Since you
> say that someone might possibly fund it, I'll try to dig some more
> details from the guy when I meet him (on Thursday), both about the price
> and the feasibility of porting.
> 
> I guess a relevant bit of information here is that this program is
> written in Delphi, which is some variant of Pascal.

As far as I can recall, Delphi was very similar in concept to visual C++ 
except that it was based on Pascal instead of C. Sort of MFC-like

Does the Windows version have its own Hebrew support or does it use 
Windows Hebrew support?

> 
> For myself, I can say that if porting will turn out to be feasible, I'll
> be willing to take some part in it. My involvment will be limited,
> however, by the fact that I have no knowledge of any of the involved
> issues (I have some vague recollection of Pascal - another thing I did
> as a kid :), and also since the time I can spend on it is limited.
> 
> Moshe
> 
> PS You are most welcome to forward this to whoever you think appropriate.

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Re: Qtext

[Uri Bruck]

On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Moshe Kaminsky wrote:

>   Matitiahu Allouche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [27/09/02 13:29]:
> > The main problem in a Bidi word processor is not how to transform logical 
> > to visual format.  As Tzafrir Cohen mentioned, there are a number of 
> > libraries available for this purpose, which all generally produce the same 
> > results, the exceptions being for rather off-beat cases.
> > 
> > The main problem is with the *interface*, mainly what should Delete, 
> > Backspace etc... perform, where the caret (or text cursor) should go after 
> > given operations, how to handle selection, to name a few important issues.
> > 
> Well, if you have the additional information that your character is a
> r2l character (even if it is a space or parentheses), this can help you
> decide what to do. I actually saw how both Backspace and selection work
> in QText, and it seems to work great.

Neither of them made sense to me. Furthermore, Qtext conforms to the 
Win3.1 language switching convention, right-alt-shift always switches to Hebrew 
while left-alt-shift always switches to English, while Win9x uses both 
alt-shift simply as switch language, which means that the language shown 
on the toolbar is not necessarily the language Qtext writes in.

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[OT] Fw: tzedaka project (fwd)

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Hi,
This is different than the kind of volunteering usually discussed on the 
list. 
Please don't reply to me, but directly to the email in the message.

- Original Message - 
From: jamesoppenheim 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:54 PM
Subject:  tzedaka project


Volunteer(s) needed. Jerusalem-based soup  kitchen that feeds over 
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Re: apache2 hebrew issue + solution

[Uri Bruck]

On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Reuven M. Lerner wrote:
> 
> > >>>>> "Tzafrir" == Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >   Tzafrir> There are a number of incompatible ways to encode Hebrew
> >   Tzafrir> (e.g: ISO-8859-8/visual, cp1255/logical and UTF-8). So
> >   Tzafrir> simply saying that the language is Hebrew is not enough
> >   Tzafrir> for the browser.
> >
> > No one is suggesting that the HTTP Content-type header should indicate
> > a language.Rather, the Content-type header indicates a character
> > set, and in some places an encoding as well.For example:
> >
> >   Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8# Unicode, UTF-8
> >   Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-8   # Hebrew + English
> >   Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1255 # Heb/Eng Windows encoding
> >
> > A browser receiving the above headers knows not only that the content
> > is in Hebrew and English (or in Unicode), but also what the encoding
> > is (and thus how to display it).
> >
> > Naming the encoding explicitly would only be a problem on a site that
> > uses multiple encodings.For example, if your site has some pages in
> > UTF-8 and others in Latin-1 and still others in ISO-8859-8, then you
> > would be in trouble.But in such a (rare) case, you can remove the
> > default encoding and allow people to use meta tags.

using

appears to override the charset header.

> 
> Quite rare indeed. The default configuration of apache (or at least: the
> one that comes with Mandrake):
> 
> http://www.gadot.org.il/manual/
> 
> http://www.gadot.org.il/manual/index.html.en
> http://www.gadot.org.il/manual/index.html.ja.jis
> 
> Not to mention all sorts of sites with multi-charset content.
> 
> >
> > On a site that has a single, consistent encoding, it's nice to have
> > the server take care of such things for you, avoiding the need for
> > meta tags.
> 
> (you mean: set everything to UTF-8)
> 
> >
> >   Tzafrir> Setting a server-wide default to a certain charset is
> >   Tzafrir> certainly not a wise default. I would consider it a
> >   Tzafrir> misconfiguration of RH's side.
> >
> > Given that this is the W3C's preferred way of doing things, it strikes
> > me as a pretty reasonable approach, actually.The implied default of
> > Latin-1 strikes me as pretty short-sighted in a world where a large
> > (and growing) number of Internet users come from outside of the US.
> 
> So you have my opinion about this standard, and how predictable it leaves
> things
> 
> 

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Re: apache2 hebrew issue + solution

[Uri Bruck]

On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Matitiahu Allouche wrote:

> On 3/10/2002 Uri Bruck wrote:
> 
> using
> 
> appears to override the charset header.
> 
> It would be helpful to mention which browser led to this observation. 
> Personally, I am not aware of this being true for any browser, 
Worked for Mozilla

> and it is 
> certainly not conformant to the HTML standard.  
This document says it conforms to HTML 4 (strict):
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/dirlang.html

> Beside the fact that the 
> charset header is supposed to override what may be specified within the 
> HTML code, neither "lang" or "dir" overlap with what the charset means.
> 
> Shalom (Regards),  Mati
>Bidi Architect
>Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts
>IBM Israel
>Phone: +972 2 5870999  ext. 1202Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: 
> +972 52 554160
> 

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Re: apache2 hebrew issue + solution (fwd) - ps

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this document too:
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/global.html#edef-HTML
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:15:56 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Uri Bruck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Matitiahu Allouche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: apache2 hebrew issue + solution

On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Matitiahu Allouche wrote:

> On 3/10/2002 Uri Bruck wrote:
> 
> using
> 
> appears to override the charset header.
> 
> It would be helpful to mention which browser led to this observation. 
> Personally, I am not aware of this being true for any browser, 
Worked for Mozilla

> and it is 
> certainly not conformant to the HTML standard.  
This document says it conforms to HTML 4 (strict):
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/dirlang.html

> Beside the fact that the 
> charset header is supposed to override what may be specified within the 
> HTML code, neither "lang" or "dir" overlap with what the charset means.
> 
> Shalom (Regards),  Mati
>Bidi Architect
>Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts
>IBM Israel
>Phone: +972 2 5870999  ext. 1202Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: 
> +972 52 554160
> 

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new DNS server for proxies as of 03-Nov-02 18:10

[Uri Itscowits]

/etc/resolv.conf contains:
nameserver 147.237.71.1
nameserver 147.237.70.2



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oops.


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Re: Hebrew Lashon Academy

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On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Ely Levy wrote:

> why bother?
Because it's the open source way of doing things.

> They are making their own langauge,
Not true. There are many words we all use that originated with the 
Academy.

> no one follows them beside maybe IDF.
> why should we waste time arguing with them?
> 
> 
> Ely Levy
> System group
> Hebrew University
> Jerusalem Israel
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Uri Bruck wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Ira Abramov wrote:
> >
> > > as for Cookie - the Academy claimes they went to the original
> > > definition, when cookie actually came from the cookoo bird which lays
> > > eggs in foreign nests.
> > I saw that explanation and went looking for a source for that. There's an
> > article on Netscape's site that said they used it first in web context,
> > and there was no special reason for the name. Neither a cookie, the kind
> 

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Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

[Uri Bruck]

On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote:


> On Wed, Dec 18, 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote about "Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in 
>Tel-Aviv and Haifa":
> > be a Jewish Atheist, because Judaism is essentially a peopleship, that the
> > Jewish religion is a small (and unnecessary) part of.
> 
> If that isn't flamebait, I don't know what is :)
> 
> Let's not feed the trolls!
> 
If you gonna start a religious war, might as well have religion somewhere 
in it... :)

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Re: A question about Opensource

[Uri Bruck]

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> On 23 Dec 2002, Meir Michanie wrote:
> 
> > I remember visiting the GNU site and getting lost there.
> > I was searching for the guide: how to register a program as opensource
> > GPL license.
> 
> Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer
> 
> GPL is a license: it details what right exactly other people have with
> a code (or whatever). But before you can license it to anybody, you have
> to establish the fact that it is yours to give/control: you have to state
> clearly that you are the copyrights owner.
> 
> (The hebrew term: "Zchuyot Yotsrim", "creators rights", is actually a
> better name)

Copyright can be bought, sold, given away. The person who owns the 
copyright is not necessarily the author. Ownining the copyright does give 
someone the right to determine who can copy the work.


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Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

[Uri Bruck]

On Thu, 26 Dec 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 26, 2002, Guy Baruch wrote about "OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and 
>linux/mozilla client":
> > 
> > Hello, just a good story for a change, hope it's not too OT.
> > Bank Leumi just recently did a face-lift to their "Leumi-Ba-Internet" site.
> 
> Interesting to see you think it is a *good* story...
> 
> After their site working well for a long time, I suddenly noticed a couple
> of days ago that I can no longer use it with Mozilla. They had a "feedback"
> link which I tried to use to complain, but that did not work too!
> 
> So what do we have here:
> 
>   1. A company that designs its website with the typical Israeli over-
>  complication and utter disregard to standards and non-IE browsers;
What makes you think this "typical Israeli"?
Do you have a different experience with your off-shore bank account?


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Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site and linux/mozilla client

[Uri Bruck]

On Thu, 26 Dec 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 26, 2002, Uri Bruck wrote about "Re: OT: Mila Tova on Bank Leumi site 
>and linux/mozilla client":
> > >   1. A company that designs its website with the typical Israeli over-
> > >  complication and utter disregard to standards and non-IE browsers;
> > What makes you think this "typical Israeli"?
> > Do you have a different experience with your off-shore bank account?
> 
> I'm not talking about back accounts, I'm talking about web sites.
I'm talking about web sites too.
> 
> Ever stopped and think why you can't do anything on Orange's site without
> Flash? Why HaifaU's site cannot be used (at least when I checked a year
> ago) without a browser that supports tons of IE-specific stuff?
> 
> If you ever looked at the evolution of my sendsms code, you'd have noticed
> how the the SMS-sending sites become more complicated as the time passes,
> without actually getting more features in the process.
> 
> At the same time look at Amazon. Look at Google. Look at CNN. At Yahoo.
> All these sites try (don't always succeed, but at least try) to use the
> *minimal* number of crazy non-standard features of their page. This has
> a lot of benefits: smaller pages, can be viewed (or listened to) by more
> people with more types of hardware and software, etc. And it doesn't
> make the pages "ugly".

So you believe that all those people writing books and articles about 
accessibility, compatibility and style, all of their bad experiences are 
from Israeli sites. Yeah, right.
Israelies didn't the schisms in browser world.
On one of the translators lists I read (one where nothing is off-topic) 
I've seen similar complaints about sites in other countries that are 
supposed to provide services.
Just to pull one out of my sleeve, while writing this email I googled and 
found this interview:
http://www.webbuilderconferences.com/interview_holzschlag.asp
where he says, among other things:
"If you have one of today's browsers, it can read and interpret most of 
that HTML without a problem. But other types of agents have difficulty 
interpreting it. There's also the issue of accessability: the problems for 
folks with disabilities because of the overbearing use of nonstandard 
markup"
I doubt he uses any of the Israeli sites you complain about.

 > 
> I attribute what is happening to most Israeli websites to the "dawinim"
> attitude of Israeli web-builders and companies. They think that if their
> site doesn't use *ALL* the *LATEST* "advances" in web technology - flash,
> java, movies, music, javascript, etc. - then they were swindled out of
> their money. This is absolutely wrong, however.
It is wrong, but there is nothing particularly Israeli about this 
attitude.

> 
> In fact, I think it's a complete farce that these companies (and some
> people on this list) say that it would cost them more money to support
> Linux. Ah? It will cost them *less* money if they stopped using all these
> crazy non-standard features that don't add anything for the users.
This is a completely different discussion. I happen to agree with you on 
this particular point.
> 

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Re: Edu in linux

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On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Ely Levy wrote:

> 
> > Right. Full localization of the working environment the (child) user
> > normally works with is normally needed. Except for English and such
> > programs, that is.
> >
> > And that working environment may be even a dedicated application, in some
> > cases.
> 
> I really don't understand where that comes from?
> Again there are many schools which doesn't use systems which have hebrew
> in them, some of them even do it on purpose for kids to learn english,
> some doesn't bother, all the kid need to know is pressing few buttons to
> get office or some explorer up.

That's part of the problem. A long time ago I saw an elementary school 
that used Logo (Turtle graphics) and thought that "all the kid need[s] to 
know is pressons [a] few buttons"
I don't think these kids ever learned what kaf-sofit has to do with a left 
turn.
Teaching to press those few buttons by rote is bad because it 
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Re: Edu in linux

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Seems like you're advocating the round about route first.
Lobbying an MK to put some weight can never the first stage of any 
process. It's something that should be done only after regular channels 
fail.


On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Ely Levy wrote:

> I think that if there is a time to push matach on porting things to linux
> it's now,
> maybe we should originize and approch haching like eitan or nachama ronen,
> and ask them,
> 1)make matach allowing the port of programs to linux,
> 2)release their rav pealim word list (remember they wanted to pay ibm
> to add hebrew support to open office).
> 
> does anyhow got more ideas on who to approch and what points we might
> raise?
> and someone which is good enough with official things to make it sound
> good?;)
> should we sigh an atzuma?I think we can get quite a bit support around.
> 
> Ely Levy
> System group
> Hebrew University
> Jerusalem Israel
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Edu in linux

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On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> This friend of mine, on the other hand, can now do absolutely nothing with
> his knowledge of Turbo Pascal 
This is a claim I find odd. Most of programming is not about learning the 
syntax of a specific language. 

> and DOS, and yelling "But these were the most
> common software when I studied!" will not help him one iota.
> 
> 
> 

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RE: Edu in linux

[Uri Bruck]

On 2 Jan 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
> 
> Everyone has a choice, of course. I do think that such an attitude is a
> bad one though. No, not everyone needs to be a rocket scientist. But I
> don't think you need a rocket scientist to have a basic understanding of
> how things work.
This I can relate to, and your complaint is also relevant to the scarcity 
of home-ec and shop classes (for both genders)

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RE: Edu in linux

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On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Ely Levy wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Victor Zaslavsky wrote:
> 
> > 1. Do not forget support cost - it usually higher for Linux than for
> > Windows (there was appropriate IDC report).
> 
> Doesn't matter, the numbers are quite diffrent for goverments.
> 
> > 2. I want my kids to be ready to start their work immediately in any
> > normal office. Why should I to sacrifice competitive strength of my kids
> > to OS wars?
> 
> Cause your kid doesn't get propar education cause the school doesn't have
> money for licences and uses old version of windows,
> cause learning windows after you know linux is half the time of doing the
> other way around,
What's that statement based on?
If it's based on a sample of friends, or linux users, then you should 
consider that you'd expect to find a higer percentage of geeks among lunix 
users. Learning a second OS for a geek would be simpler. That may create 
that above impression.


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RE: Edu in linux

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On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Ely Levy wrote:

> Cause what he would use outside in the world has nothing to do with the
> things he uses at school in school he learns browesing/office
> he DOESNT learn how to use windows.
browsing and office are the most common uses for windows for 
non-developers (most people).


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Re: Edu in linux

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On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Xavier Gentoo wrote:

> 
> Unless of course *you* are comfortable that *your* kids are going to be 
> deprived of elementary independent thinking, that is. If you are, I suggest 
> you watch Total Recall 2070 to see how bright out future is going to be.

So someone who chooses MS is "deprived of elementary independent 
thinking", and someone who chooses linux is an independent thinker, just 
like all the geeks.
Wrongthinking is punishable ...?
MS-Word nicknamed MS-Unword?

 > 
> 

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Re: Edu in linux

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On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Alon Altman wrote:

> 
>   I think we should try and pass legislation that schools will be forbidden
> to require the students to purchase closed software to submit their
> schoolwork. 
How is that different than requiring students to buy a certain textbook?
(In Haifa we rarely did that. Most textbooks were loaned to us, but I 
believe in most of the country high school students are still required to 
buy them, and sometimes they are required to buy a specific edition)

> Also, we should reduce public spending on  non-open software
> development - CET should be producing open software that could then be
> ported by the community (maybe using winelib).
> 
>   Alon
> 
> 

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Re: Edu in linux

[Uri Bruck]

On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Ely Levy wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Uri Bruck wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Xavier Gentoo wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Unless of course *you* are comfortable that *your* kids are going to be
> > > deprived of elementary independent thinking, that is. If you are, I suggest
> > > you watch Total Recall 2070 to see how bright out future is going to be.
> >
> > So someone who chooses MS is "deprived of elementary independent
> > thinking", and someone who chooses linux is an independent thinker, just
> > like all the geeks.
> > Wrongthinking is punishable ...?
> > MS-Word nicknamed MS-Unword?
> 
> That not what he said,
> come on..
> he said that people who use ms cause they don't know of any alternatives
Which may be true for some people. However, the general sentiment I'm 
getting list is that this is the only reason to choose MS for any task.
Lots of tech writers use FrameMaker rather than Office.
Are they independent thinkers because they chose a non-ms product, or 
deprived drones because they're running it on Windows?

> and cause they are not capble later in their life to chose something
> else cause of lack of knowladge are deprived of independent thinking.
> someone who chose ms over linux is plain stupid;))j/k:)
> 
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STAROFFICE FREE TO DANISH STUDENTS AND TEACHERS

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http://listserv.educause.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0301&L=edupage&D=1&T=0&P=74

STAROFFICE FREE TO DANISH STUDENTS AND TEACHERS
Sun Microsystems has added Denmark to the list of countries in which
its StarOffice software package will be made available free for
students. Deals had already been announced between the software company
and the ministries of education in China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Chile.
The new deal between Sun Microsystems Denmark and Denmark's ministry
of education is worth an estimated $27.4 million. Sun said it hopes to
reach similar deals in France, Germany, and Sweden, as well as in some
countries in Africa. A spokesman for Sun Microsystems Denmark said that
students and teachers in Denmark will be allowed to use StarOffice 6.0
at school and at home and that there are "no limitations regarding
copying the program."
Associated Press, 2 January 2003 (registration req'd)
http://www.nandotimes.com/technology/story/699138p-5172231c.html

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Re: RMS Dinner

[Uri Bruck]

http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/ShArtPE.jhtml?itemNo=247510&contrassID=2&subContrassID=13&sbSubContrassID=0

I couldn't find it in the English version of haaretz 

On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Shaul Karl wrote:
> 
> 1. http://www.haaretz.co.il.
> 2. Click near the upper left most corner for the English edition.
> 2. At the upper selection boxes choose the print edition.
> 3. At the left most column, possibly at the bottom of the screen (not
>the page) there is a box to Select Day for Previous Editions.
>According to the list archive the article was published on Jan 3.
> 4. According to the list archive the article was published in the
>Friday Magazine.
> 
>   What I was able to get is a page with the headers, some commercials
> and a magazine title. Nothing more.
> 

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Re: Edu in linux

[Uri Bruck]

On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> 
> Imagine a country where not only can schools use free software, but kids
> are actually free to use the same software at home without draining the
> family's budget. This is not only essential to sick kids, but also useful
> for parents who cannot afford private tutors, and for kids who want to learn
> at a slightly different pace or to reenforce the learning they'd done in
> class.

And let's imagine a little further and imagine that they are free to 
choose to use that same software on the same OS their parents run MS-Word 
on.
After all, as has been repeated here often, it's really about choice.

 > 
> Just like John Lennon, I don't think that every sentence beginning with
> "Imagine" is necessarily impossible...
> 
> And don't even get me started on Matach's spellchecker, rav-milim ;)
> 
> 

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Re: Edu in linux

[Uri Bruck]

English:
http://www.cet.co.il
Hebrew:
http://www.cet.ac.il

On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Ely Levy wrote:

> someone knows matach's homepage?
> i remmebered it once but I can't find it anymore for some weird reason..
> 
> Ely Levy
> System group
> Hebrew University
> Jerusalem Israel
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, mnna4 wrote:
> 
> > >From my kids' experience ( 12 + 16 ),  "technical" issues are about office
> > products
> > (Heb OO will do fine here) and the rest  of the activity is web search
> > (Meida'anut whatever that means in English) and remote learning.
> > As a linux layman , I can vouch for Mandrake or RH (DONT flame) as more
> > than adequate. My kids are doing just fine with it at home, especially after
> > I installed
> > phpbb :)
> > As once a PTA member, I can tell you that upgrades , hw and sw, are major
> > setbacks
> > and any help will be welcome.
> > The main issue is that  MOE (Ministry of Education) through MATAH, provides
> > binding M$ software used in the curriculum. I wonder if they can be forced
> > to
> > provide software on other platforms.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Gilad Ben-Yossef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Jonathan Ben Avraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ely Levy"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "ILUG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 2:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Edu in linux
> >
> >
> > > On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 13:19, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
> > >
> > > > home. The Windows vocabulary has entered our daily Hebrew speech. My
> > kids
> > > > (all 10 of them) had to submit a portion of their homework assignments
> > in
> > > > doc format (Gush Etzion school system) for the past four years. My wife
> > > > is in a masters program at Touro College and Beit Morasha where the
> > > > homework assignments are distributed in Word and the homework must be
> > > > submitted in Word. I suggest that you actually go try to talk to these
> > > > people about Linux and see what happens.
> > >
> > > What happens if one does not have money to buy Word & Windows licenses,
> > > especially if one needs more then one computer (10 kids...)?
> > >
> > > I assume of course that most if not all the software copied actually
> > > used are illegal, but I'm pretty sure the question crossed your mind and
> > > wondered if you asked it?
> > >
> > > Gilad.
> > >
> > > --
> > >  Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >  http://benyossef.com
> > >
> > >  Q: "What do you do if your Linux box goes down?"
> > >  A: "Sit around in the dark until the power comes back on"
> > >
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Re: article in nana

[Uri Bruck]

On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Eli Marmor wrote:
> 
> But at least, the Gnu is in a good company: Another images that were
> attached to the article, were:
> 
>   RMS with a flute (halilit)
That's a recorder, not a flute.
flute is 'halil' (aka halil-tzad because of the way it is held)

>   his autograph (hatima)
>   his personal ad (looking for a love)
>   a logo of "sex, drugs and penguin" (another type of love)
>   Tux
>   Ben-Gurion (not the airport, but the ex-prime-minister)
> 
> 

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terminology Q

[Uri Bruck]

Hi,
What term would you use for "proprietary system" in Hebrew?


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Re: Ha'aretz article regarding RMS

[Uri Bruck]

On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Arik Baratz wrote:

> Richard Stallman wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for translating it for me.  Does the article really refer to
> > the system the first time as "Linux"?
> >
> I'm afraid so. They write Linux in Hebrew, which is 
> Lamed-Yod-Nun-Vav-Kof-Samech. They didn't add GNU. 
The name is written as GNU/Linux (Latin letters) pretty far down the 
article, in the sentence that specifies that calling the system by this 
name is a precondition for the interview.
Project GNU on its own is mentioned in the first section (8th par.)
Whenever GNU is mentioned, it's in Latin letters. I'd find it odd to it 
transliterated. Acronyms rarely are. Unless there's a commonly used 
translation for the acronym.

>Now that you mention 
> it, I have never seen the combination GNU/Linux in Hebrew anywhere.
> 
> A quick Hebrew google search (http://www.google.co.il) finds only 3 
> hits. 2 are in the www.whatsup.org.il - one is an interview with you, 
> and one is a rant about how nobody in the IBM conference used GNU/Linux 
> for their presentaions. The other hit is in a site called 
> www.pcmaster.co.il and it looks like a GNU/Linux primer. And they put 
> the GNU after the Linux, so it looks like Linux/GNU.
> 
> Have a safe and easy flight! Take care,
> 
> -- Arik


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Re: Hebrew word for hacker/hack? (was: RE: Academia LeLashon / hackerjargon)

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Omer Zak wrote:

> Few ideas:
> - Tekhadshan/Tekhidush (from Khidushei-Torah; i.e. hacks were invented
>   2100 years ago!)
I'd think older, considering that Hammurabi was the first person known to 
have compiled code

> - Targilan/Targil
> - Mekasem/Kesem or miksam (I was thinking of the technomags from Babylon
>   5)

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Re: hebrew sugestion for hacker (was: Re: Academia LeLashon / hacker jargon )

[Uri Bruck]

On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:

> 
> hacker - TAHSHAV or TAHSHEVAN
> hack - TIHSHUV
> hacked [past] - TIHSHEV
> 
> Hmm, that sounds a bit too familiar, is it taken already?

tikshuv - a compound of tikshoret and mikhshuv.
yet another academy word that made it.

> 
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Re: Rename to GNU/Linux

[Uri Bruck]

and then there's  The Gnu Song

http://www.poppyfields.net/poppy/songs/gnu.html


On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Ely Levy wrote:

> well like the famous song about parat moshe rabenu says
> pashot likroa la GNU ve hi tavo myad;)
> 
> Ely Levy
> System group
> Hebrew University
> Jerusalem Israel

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RE: Israeli sites not supporting Linux browsers

[Uri Bruck]

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Eddie Aronovich wrote:

> 
> During RMS talk the feeling of love and help to your community was one of
> the main issues. Abir is right - stop to hate and start to love.
Is that anything like "Make love - not war"?
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Re: politics at sourceforge hosters.

[Uri Bruck]

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 30, 2003, Meir Michanie wrote about "RE: politics at sourceforge 
>hosters.":
> > anybody using barak?
> > 
> > > I got to this site without a hitch. But it does seem strange.
> > > > 
> > > > http://drip.sourceforge.net/
> > > > 
> > > >  I got redirected to a political site: 
> > > > http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.html
> 
> I can confirm the same redirection when connected via Netvision. The
> redirection happens after a few seconds, with a "meta http-equiv=refresh"
> tag. Does sourceforge let people run SSI or CGI as the content of their
> homepage??
I'm not gettingany redirection. Been looking at drip for a few minutes now
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Guessing filesystem while unmounted

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Hi there,

I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC), 
  while all partitions are still unmounted.

I could of course mount each in turn, and look for /etc/fstab or so, 
  but I am looking for a way which won't involve mounting, if possible.


Any ideas out there ?

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Guessing filesystem while unmounted

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Hi there,

I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC), 
  while all partitions are still unmounted.

I could of course mount each in turn, and look for /etc/fstab or so, 
  but I am looking for a way which won't involve mounting, if possible.


Any ideas out there ?

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Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted

[Uri Itscowits]

Hi all,

First I want to thank everybody for the time & effort,
 ( although some responses show, 
some guys did NOT spend enough time reading my problem all the way  {:<   )


Since no one gave me a good answer, 
 (except for Muli's, which was my idea to begin with)

I tried to look for the way install-disc does it in rescue mode, BUT
 I never before read Python code.

So I am guessing /usr/lib/anaconda/partitioning.py, is responsible for that.

Anyone cares to check it ?


PS
no need to CC me in person, I'm on the list, & it floods my mailbox.


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How to set /proc/sys/fs/inode-max

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Hello list,

on a SQUID dedicated machine w/ Linux 2.4.18smp, I noticed this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /proc/sys/fs]$ cat /proc/sys/fs/inode-state
169186  83600   0   0   0   0
-

Does it mean the kernel is pruning the inode list instead of allocating more ?
 if so how can I fix it ?


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Re: RedHat 9 ISO image mirrors in Israel?

[Uri Shohet]

On Sunday 01 June 2003 18:52, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
> Sorry if I'm being dumb, I checked all Israel's mirrors I know and
> none seems to carry RedHat 9 in ISOs.  Did I miss it somewhere?
> [It's a one-time need, don't count this as a mirror request.]

ftp://redhat.netvision.net.il/ftp.redhat.com/linux/9/en/iso/i386/

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where did lvm module go in 2.6.0-test1 ?

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There is no specific line for lvm in the config && it doesn't compile any.



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Re: [hackers-il] Ongoing Translation of ESR's "Homesteading the Noosphere"

[Uri Bruck]

I may have missed the beginning of this, where was the translation posted?

Shlomi Fish wrote:

On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:


Shlomi Fish wrote on 2003-08-07:


I'll appreciate any help in either translating or proof-reading the
translation. E-mail me if you volunteer.
I've read what you have so far.

- The translation should link to the English original.



OK.


- I seeyou abandoned the orginal title; the "noosphere" concept is
quite central to the rest of the article -- but I can't find any
translation retaining it that is nearly as catchy as your title...


I did not purposely abandon the title. I believed noosphere would
translate into Hebrew as "Shmama". How would you translate it? "Sfar"?
"Eretz Lo-Meyusheveth"?

- Typo: about the middle, "Im HaPragmati Shone Mashehu," --
s/Shone/Sone/ (s///, funny how it moves to a different
letter in the transcription).


Fixed.


- The naive translation of "fork" as "Mazleg" sounds strange.I guess
the English term has roots in unix fork() calls, but even before
that, in English a tree, road or river can "fork", which is not the
case in Hebrew.  Oxford English->Hebrew dictionary translates the
noun "fork" as "Mis'af" and the verb as "Lehista'ef".  There is no
non-reflexive form for "he forked the project", this seems to be a
jargon extension.  "Lesa'ef" is one obvious suggestion but a
Hebrew->Russian dictionary gives "to cut branches from a tree" as
one of its meaning which is directly opposite to what we want to
say.


Se'ef is hardly used as "to cut branches from a tree". At least I never
heard of it used this way. OTOH, it does has a meaning of dividing into
sections which is what we want. So, I'm going to use it.

I'd go for "Lefatzel" or "Lefaleg"; a fork would be "Hista'afut" or
"Feleg".


Thanks for your input.

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish


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Re: kde header files on RH 7.3

[Uri Shohet]

Try here:
/usr/include/kde
Example filename:
/usr/include/kde/dcopclient.h

As a rule, you can do 
$ rpm -ql kdelibs-devel | grep include

Uri

On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:19, David Harel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone knows where I should find the header files for kde on RH 7.3
> and a sample name of such a header file so I can use the find command
> and redirect it.
>
> Thanks.

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Re: Fw: What's wrong with this code?

[Uri Bruck]

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:

> On Monday 17 November 2003 08:41, Tal, Shachar wrote:
> 
> > It makes it harder, as diffs are examined (by a single person or two
> > people) before introducing code to the main branch.
> > It's possible to obfuscate a backdoor, of course, but harder than
> > when no one is watching.
> 
> Or to put it shorty:
> 
> 
> Bad closed source company: no one watches the code.
> Good closed source comapny: one or two person watches the code.
> Open Source: ~10k of the world best programmer watch the code.

I get the impression that in practice the number of people who actually 
watch any given piece of open source code is significantly smaller, and, 
ufortunately, the number of people who use any given piece of code without 
ever taking a look is big - some of them reason that it must be good 
because of said ~10k.

> 
> Take your pick.. :-)
Best tool for the job. Some of them are open source, some are not.

> Gilad
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Re: mysql hebrew

[Uri Bruck]

Once in phpMyAdmin, set the encoding to one of the Hebrew encodings, and 
then defining the table.

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Alon Weinstein wrote:

> Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 02:40:40PM +0200, Aaron wrote:
> > 
> >>Hi all,
> >>I am creating a mysql database which needs to have fields in hebrew and 
> >>other in english. This means that the text will be in hebrew.
> >>when I type hebrew in a field I get an error and I see this:
> >>
> >>*Error*
> >>
> >>SQL-query : 
> >>
> >>ALTER TABLE `city` ADD `name_heb` ENUM( , 
> >>'סלאוויטא', 
> >>'ניקאלאיעוו', 
> >>'פאהאר' ) BINARY DEFAULT 
> >>'ניקאלאיעוו' 
> >>NOT NULL AFTER `name`
> >>
> >>Where do i tell Mysql to use hebrew?  And what encoding should I use?
> >>
> >>Is there a way to do this throught php-mysql?
> > 
> > 
> > I know nothing about mysql, but I installed RT (which uses mysql, and
> > utf-8), and its tables show just fine under phpmyadmin when selecting
> > utf-8 in the browser. Also doing in mysql 'select ... into outfile'
> > creates clean utf-8.
> 
> do man mysqld and look for the charset settings. The mysql manual also 
> addresses this issues. I think that in mysql 4.x you can also define 
> charset per table, but I'm not sure.
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OT: Leaders' behavior in the free software/open-source community

[Uri Sharf]

FYI

What is a good open-source project leader, from the
contributor's point of view? To what extent, those personal believes  
are shared among developers? Can the contributor's national cultural  
belonging and level of experience in contributing to open-source  
projects explain such differences in their idea of what a good leader  
is?

The results of the following questionnaire will be used in the author's  
master thesis on leadership in the free software/open-source  
environment.

see: http://freeonlinesurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?id=52191

ref: http://www.whatsup.org.il/modules.php? 
op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2661&mode=flat&order=0&thold=0

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Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

[Uri Sharf]

Shachar Shemesh wrote:

Jonathan suggested that, as Tk are doing that anyways, Tk will set up a 
system where people from the community can log in (either remotely or 
pay them a visit in Jerusalem), and use their facilities to hack 
OpenOffice. The precise details are a little sketchy at the moment, but 
interested parties are welcome to contact him and express their interest.

I may as well not be up2date on this, but just wondering why isn't the 
code beeing merged back to the main tree, allowing anyone, from Israel 
or outside of it, to participate using which ever means available to 
them, the way they do with OOo itself?

10x

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Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

[Uri Sharf]

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 03:16:44PM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:

Can anybody attest to the difficulty of building it on linux from a
source package?
I've built it on Gentoo, when I still had Gentoo that is. Long and 
tedious (~8 hrs on P4/2.0 GHZ), but built smoothly. I've also tried 
building the Debian Package, with Ximian's patches before they were 
available publicaly, there were lots of issues with it, as you can see 
in the debian-ooo mailing list.

BTW Working with a "resolver" (like Jonathan suggets basically) should 
have been an option, or is an option for someone working on the 
localized subset, or is it not? I've played around with it once and it 
seemed a bit tidious and way out of my scope, but not completely out of 
the question.

Uri

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Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

[Uri Sharf]

Eli Marmor wrote:
I hope that the comment that I sent to whatsup, clarified everything
(for the lazy people: it seconds, more or less, the claims of Shachar
and Jonathan).
Shachar Shemesh wrote:

Uri Sharf wrote:


Shachar Shemesh wrote:


Jonathan suggested that, as Tk are doing that anyways, Tk will set up
a system where people from the community can log in (either remotely
or pay them a visit in Jerusalem), and use their facilities to hack
OpenOffice. The precise details are a little sketchy at the moment,
but interested parties are welcome to contact him and express their
interest.
I may as well not be up2date on this, but just wondering why isn't the
code beeing merged back to the main tree, allowing anyone, from Israel
or outside of it, to participate using which ever means available to
them, the way they do with OOo itself?
10x
You have not read the email well enough. Setting up a build environment
is a full time job. Those who have tried should know.


I actually did try, using the resolver and w/o. No fun, for sure, but 
why not make both options possible in the first place. Anyways, from 
what Jonathan says it's beeing merged in any case so I guess this is a 
non-issue anymore.

Uri

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Re: THREE ROSES - Three Regional Operating networks working on Strategic Electronic Scenarios

[Uri Sharf]

They've actually allready published a first report (Desktop study use of
Open Source in Local Government in Europe) based on e-mail and interent
survey and also had a 2nd workshop, a follow-up to the survey, in
Sept/2003. Some of their finding were incorperated in to the IDA report
(Open Source Migration Guidelines) published lately.
3Roses btw is a a small project that is managed by ERISA
(http://www.ianis.net/), an NGO comissioned by the EU (not funded) to
promote e-gov (among other things) at local/regional level in Europe. If
It is based in Brusseles, or at least this is where their
pr/communications seem to be comming from.
Don't know if the report from the 3Rose's 1st workshop is available
online, but if anyone needs it, I may have a copy somewhere, or can put
it on whatsup.
I tried once to check if local governments on Israel (Iriot and
Rashoiout) can participate, it seems that there are some possibilities
via research funds Israel is eligble to use etc. If any one is intrested
in persuing this.
Uri

Yishay Mor wrote:
"This IST funded project will evaluate the current situation with regard 
to the development and adoption of Open Source Software (OSS) solutions 
to modernise public administration at local and regional level, and to 
support the economic development of the territory. Three Roses focuses 
on e-government services and e-business solutions that could be promoted 
by public administrations in their local context. Special attention will 
also be paid to the development of e-tools to support and enhance a 
learning process around open source solutions for the public sector. The 
benefits and disadvantages of adopting OSS technology are also being 
examined.

The objective of the project is to develop a relevant roadmap for future 
research work under the 6th Framework Programme of Research and 
Technological Development of the European Commission. This will be done 
by concentrating on the state of the art of research and the use of Open 
Source Software in e government and related e-business and learning 
processes.

To achieve this objective, Three Roses will become an open platform in 
which participants in potential future research work will be able to 
debate and exchange views during two workshop sessions and through a 
virtual forum. The life span of the project is one year (2003). 
Consultation will involve OSS researchers and developers, local/regional 
users and stakeholders, as well as experts in managing large European 
projects."

http://www.prelude-portal.org/3roses/index.php



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OT: Robert M. Sauer - FLOSS/Windows TCO - Reloaded

[Uri Sharf]

Rob (JIMS) seems to bring FLOSS's TCO and Microsoft's "Get The Facts" 
campaign to Yediout Acharonot. See more information here: 
http://whatsup.org.il/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2688

p.s. We are not sure if we are allowd to upload the original article to 
whatsup, if anyone has any idea?

Uri

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Re: Buying a new printer to work under Mandrake 9.2

[Uri Sharf]

Omer Zak wrote:

In general, you may want to consult the hardware Howto distributed
knowledge base available in the Internet, and which can be found by means
of Google keywords.  This is excellent!  For each model mentioned, you get
information about people's experience, what workaround they used, what
tricks and tips they have.
 

linuxprinting.org could be usefull as well, and maybe this article about 
multifunctional printers.

*Six multifunction printers for Linux 
*
http://www.linux.com/documentation/03/12/05/0015249.shtml

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Fwd: [ISRAEMPLOY] JOBOPPS + UNIX SYS-ADMIN-freelancer (fwd)

[Uri Bruck]

do not reply to me. REply to the address below

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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 16:19:23 -
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 Subject: [ISRAEMPLOY] JOBOPPS + UNIX SYS-ADMIN-freelancer
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Hi, the company I m working for is looking for a UNIX system 
administrator for few projects as freelance (with receipts-
cheshboniot).

only UNIX sysadmin with at least two years experience may send 
resume, good knowledge in security will be a plus.

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[fwd] [ISRAEMPLOY] JOBOPPS + CENTER + UNIX INFRASTUCTURE TEAM LEADER

[Uri Bruck]

[don't reply to me]

Please send CV in Hebrew to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

Position available for UNIX INFRASTRUCTURE TEAM LEADER.

Must have  experience in managing at least 5 people for at least 2 years.
Must have 3 years practical experience with SUN SOLARIS.
Must have 2 years experience in managing infrastructure projects.
Must have work experience with large DB.
Must have knowledge of additional UNIX  and LINUX
Must have academic computer background or be a  MAMRAM graduate.
Must be ready to work long and unconventional hours.
Must have good interpersonal skills and be service-oriented.
Must have security clearance.



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Re: remote bookmarks ?

[Uri Sharf]

On Thursday 18 March 2004 15:43, Michael Sternberg wrote:
>
> Did anybody tried to develop an extension for FireFox ? Is it suitable
> for writing such plug-in ?
>

Try Bookmarks Synchronizer (FTP)

There's an extension that stores/reterives the XBEL via ftp with autodownload 
and update.  I've used it for a while on Windows and Linux quite sucessfully.

See here: http://cgi29.plala.or.jp/~mozzarel/ - plus some other smart ideas 
and code as well.

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OT: Multiple UNIX compromises on campus (Standford and others)

[Uri Sharf]

Stanford, along with a large number of research institutions and high 
performance computing centers, has become a target for some sophisticated 
Linux and Solaris attacks. An unknown attacker (or group) has compromised 
numerous multi-user Solaris and Linux computers on Stanford's campus using a 
variety of mechanisms. In most cases, the attacker gets access to a machine 
by cracking or sniffing passwords. Local user accounts are escalated to root 
privileges by triggering a variety of local exploits, including the do_brk() 
and mremap() exploits on Linux and the sadmind, arbitrary kernel loading 
modules and passwd vulnerabilities on Solaris. 

ref: http://securecomputing.stanford.edu/alerts/multiple-unix-6apr2004.html

p.s. The message seems vary detailed and helpfull. 

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OSS-IL Coverage on Captain Internet

[Uri Sharf]

Galit Yamini from Ha'aretz published two articles today:

1. Interview with Shoshana Forbes, Dan Aloni, YBA, Menu Livne, Ori Idan and 
others.
http://www.haaretz.co.il/captain/pages/ShArtCaptain.jhtml?contrassID=11&subContrassID=0&itemNo=414521

2. Review of coLinux with some cmmentry from Gartner-Israel.
http://www.haaretz.co.il/captain/pages/ShArtCaptain.jhtml?contrassID=11&subContrassID=0&itemNo=414520

Not very accurate, but makes an interesting reading in this context. The 
briefing material for this articles can be found here: 
http://linmagazine.co.il/book/view/335. Some "interviews" done for Galit 
shortly before the meeting and it gives a more extensive overview. 

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Re: Anaconda for Debian (Was: Linux for black-box router)

[Uri Sharf]

Not sure what you mean by: 

> Thing is - how do I hack into a Debian ISO ? I don't see much point in
> installing Debian and then installing Anaconda on it.

In any case I don't recommend using Progeny's, since it seems very unstable.  
It tends to crash during install if you select anything other than the 
defaults and I did go through rough times getting debian to work properly 
afterwords.

BTW I really like Xandros as an Installer for Debian, and I don't mind paying 
for it. Plus, you get a CXOffice pre-configured (if you need it) and a sane  
configuration w/o any conflicts when upgrading from sid later on. Very 
different experience compared with Lindows - as a very bad example or even 
Knoppix I think. 

Also, the officiail Debian Installer seems to be much better now, can't 
complain. 

linuxmafia is indeed a great source for ideas.

Uri

On 13/04/04 18:13, Oded Arbel wrote:
> ×Tuesday 13 April 2004 16:22,  ×× ××× Weinstein, Alon:
> > > By the way, how come that no Debian installer had itch, which
> > > can be scratched by an user-friendly GUI installer?
> >
> > Perhaps Anaconda for Debian will do the trick.
> >
> >
> > http://platform.progeny.com/anaconda/
>
> Loved the preface:
> Red Hat's Anaconda is the standard installer among Linux distributions.
> Our port of Anaconda to Debian brings the familiar installation experience
> of Anaconda to the rest of the Linux world.
>
> Seems to either imply that Anaconda is the installer for all linux distros
> aside from Debian or that there are only two types of distros - Debian and
> RedHat (based).
>
> Thing is - how do I hack into a Debian ISO ? I don't see much point in
> installing Debian and then installing Anaconda on it.

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Re: KDE3.2 for Debian Sarge

[Uri Sharf]

Try here, or search further at apt-get.org:

KDE 3.2.0, soon to be official (Added 2004-02-22, last checked 2004-04-5) 
maintained by ccheney at debian dot org
Packages in database: amor, atlantikdesigner, cervisia, eyesapplet, 
fifteenapplet, flashkard, kaddressbook-plugins, kalzium, kapptemplate, 
kate-plugins, ...
Architectures: all, i386
# KDE 3.2
deb http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-3.2.0/ ./   [seems inactive]
deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde-3.2 ./   [seems ok]

It doesn't say but I guess "soon to be official" means sarge.

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Re: The AGNULA project: A GNU/Linux Audio distribution

[Uri Sharf]

AGNULA was a proof of concept and AFAIK budgeted by the EU for 2 years only, 
thus will not be developed any further unless someone else will take this. 
The project started on the 1st April, 2002 and will end on March 31, 2004.

A more committed solution for professional musicians is PlanetCCRMA, started 
with Red Hat now based on Fedora, which has an excellent repository which is 
very well maintained (emphasis on preemptive and smp kernels), by  Stanford 
university .

Planet CCRMA (CCRMA is pronounced ``karma'') at Home is a collection of rpms  
that you can add to a computer running RedHat 7.3, 8.0, 9 or Fedora Core 1 to 
transform it into an audio workstation with a low-latency kernel, current 
ALSA audio drivers and a nice set of music, midi, audio and video 
applications. 

http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma

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On 19/04/04 14:44, Yishay Mor wrote:
> http://www.agnula.org/
>
> AGNULA (acronym for «A GNU/Linux Audio distribution», pronounced with a
> strong g) is the name of a project funded by the European Commission
> <http://europa.eu.int/institutions/comm/index_en.htm> (number of
> contract: IST-2001-34879
> <http://dbs.cordis.lu/fep-cgi/srchidadb?ACTION=D&CALLER=PROJ_IST&QF_EP_RPG=
>IST-2001-34879>; key action IV.3.3, Free Software: towards the critical
> mass).
>
> AGNULA's main task is the development of two reference distributions for
> the GNU/Linux operating system completely based on Free Software
> <http://www.fsfeurope.org/documents/freesoftware.en.html> (i.e. under a
> FSF <http://www.fsf.org/> approved Free Software license) and completely
> devoted to professional and consumer audio applications and multimedia
> development. One distribution will be Debian-based (DeMuDi) and the
> other will be Red Hat-based (ReHMuDi).

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Re: Changing network definitions in Debian

[Uri Sharf]

I use "dpkg-reconfigure etherconf" (you may need to install etherconf), does 
not allways play nicely with pre-loading pcmcia modules but useable 
otherwise.

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On 25/04/04 13:57, Meir Kriheli wrote:
> On Sunday 25 April 2004 05:25, Avraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi
> > In Debian, like in other distributions, the network is set up early in
> > the installation process. Assuming that I changed my mind, moved the
> > system to some other environement, or just wish to correct a mistake, is
> > there a command/way  to redefine the network settings (I have in mind
> > somthing like netconfig in Slackware) or one just modify the relevant
> > files with an editor?
> > Thanks for any information. Avraham
>
> The file you need to edit is /etc/network/interfaces .
>
> For more info see:
> man interfaces.
>
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Re: KMail and IMAP (IDLE?) - SOLVED

[Uri Sharf]

Seems like KMail was impacted by a faulty hosts file which I messed up 
somehow. It obviously didn't bother Thunderbird though.

Regards,
Uri

On 05/05/04 21:11, Uri Sharf wrote:
> Oded Arbel wrote:
> >בWednesday 05 May 2004 13:46, נכתב על ידי Uri Sharf:
> >>I used to run it (earlier versions)  of my local IMAP server with no
> >>problems, but in this particular case it's  at my Hosting service. I'm
> >>trying to get this info and traces if possible so I can open a bug with
> >>KMail.
> >>
> >>Checked KMail but it doesn't have any thing confgiurable (in the GUI) to
> >>restrict connection. I'll have to look around. Thanks for the tip.
> >
> >Kmail doesn't have number of connections configuration as it only uses one
> >connection to each server.
>
> Yes. It seems. I'm workign concurently with Thunderbird w/o any
> problems, so guess it's Kmail's problem. The server I'm connecting to is
> courier btw, just confirmed.
>
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Re: Governments spending on IT

[Uri Sharf]

It seems some parts of the project will be given to Kav Marachot, which though 
not "Open Source", deploys it's servers (and now it's Java Clients as well it 
seems) on Linux from what I've been told. 

Some security-aware users of Merkava (Ministry of Defenses and Ministry of 
Foreign Affairs) did no want to share sensitive information with the main 
system. Would be interesting to find out how big is Kav's share really is.

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On 05/05/04 08:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> According to the Walla article at:
> http://news.walla.co.il/?w=/3/538997
>
> The government has agreed on spending 470 Million NIS on projects
> "Merkava" and "Memshal Zamin".
>
> With all the talks about OpenOffice, MS licenses vs. Linux etc. - does
> anyone
> here have thoughs on the effect of such spending on the ISraeli OpenSource
> industry?
>
> I understand that most of the badget will go to places like IBM or
> Matrix, but still
> it should create demand for OpenSource skills in many tiers around it,
> shouldn't it?
>
> --Amos
>
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KMail and IMAP (IDLE?)

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I'm not sure if my problems with KMail has anything to do with IMAP's IDLE 
(was it introduced into 1.6.2?), but after I've last upgraded from Debian 
Unstable it regularly disconnects from the server and it wan't sync anymore 
unless I kill it (just exiting does not work it seem). Anyone experiences the 
same?

Regrads,

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Re: KMail and IMAP (IDLE?)

[Uri Sharf]

I used to run it (earlier versions)  of my local IMAP server with no problems, 
but in this particular case it's  at my Hosting service. I'm trying to get 
this info and traces if possible so I can open a bug with KMail.

Checked KMail but it doesn't have any thing confgiurable (in the GUI) to 
restrict connection. I'll have to look around. Thanks for the tip.

Uri
On 05/05/04 10:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Uri Sharf wrote:
> >I'm not sure if my problems with KMail has anything to do with IMAP's IDLE
> >(was it introduced into 1.6.2?), but after I've last upgraded from Debian
> >Unstable it regularly disconnects from the server and it wan't sync
> > anymore unless I kill it (just exiting does not work it seem). Anyone
> > experiences the same?
> >
> >Regrads,
>
> Which IMAP server are you using?
> I use Courier IMAP and used to have strange annoyances accessing it from
> Mozilla Thunderbird (on both Windows and Linux) until someone told me to
> limit the number of concurrent connection in the cache to 3 or so.
>
> --Amos
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Re: MOF and Free Desktop

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> It was mentioned that one of two major desktops will be used ( flame
> awarenes:) ) with openoffice.
> It was also mentioned that Hamakor members were involved in the
> discussions. I couldn't find any reports in Hamakor site.
> Can anyone comment/clear the situation?   Shachar, Gilad ?

See some more information and a short discussion here to compensate Shachar's 
lost blog post: 
http://www.whatsup.org.il/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2978

and also this attachment (Hebrew, not sure if this mailing list is 
archived/couldn't find it online) of a discussion on the HaMakor's PR list.

BTW There's a claim that Novell  approached the "Israeli OSS community" with a 
proposition to support a community development of Evolution's Hebrew support. 
Any information on who was contacted and why it was suggested TkOs will take 
this instead? Is Tkos going to repeat OOo's localization model or make it 
possible/easy for  others to contribute?

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On Mon, Apr 26, 2004, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: YNet on on Hebrew Linux":
> Uri Sharf wrote:
> 
> >האם חוץ מבלעדיות ל-ynet, יש סיבה מדוע פגישה 
> >שהתקיימה בשבוע שעבר ובה השתתפו נציגי 
> >המקור, לא מדווחת לרשימת הדיוור הזו? מישהו 
> >מהועד יכול להסביר מי השתתף ובה בדיוק היה 
> >תפקיד העמותה בפגישה?
> >
> >תודה
> >אורי
> >
> אני לא מהוועד, אבל אני אנסה להסביר בכל זאת.

אני דווקא כן מהוועד, ולא היה לי כלל מושג שהפגישה הזאת מתקיימת...

אורי, אני רוצה להזכיר לך ש"המקור" זו לא חברה היררכית בה הוועד קובע הכל,
וכל מה שמתבצע נעשה בשם הוועד ובברכתו. לוועד יש שליטה על מספר אמצעים ריכוזיים
של העמותה (כסף, קבלות, מעט ציוד, וכד') ומספר תפקידים טכניים וטקסיים נוספים -
אך אנשים אחרים יכולים - ואפילו מוזמנים - אנחנו אפילו מתחננים - ליזום בעצמם
פעילויות למען "המטרה".

כמובן, שמן ההגינות שמי שאינו חבר ועד, או לא פועל באישור הוועד, יציג את עצמו
כ "חבר עמותת המקור", ולא כנציגה. כמו כן, ראוי שמי שעושה פעולה שעשויים להיות
לה הדים נרחבים (כמו פגישה בממשלה) ומתכוון להזכיר שם את "המקור" - שיתייעץ קודם
לכן אם הפורומים שנראים לו מתאימים (קבוצת דיון זו, הוועד, וכד'), כדי למנוע
"פאדיחות". אבל, זה לא אומר שכל מי שמתכוון לעשות משהו לטובת תכנה חופשית ולהזכיר
את עמותת המקור חייב לקבל אישור בשלושה עותקים מהוועד ומקבוצת דיון זו.

> הסיבה שאני לא עדכנתי את הרשימה הזו, או 
> בכלל, זה בגלל שלא ידעתי מה הסטטוס של 
> הפגישה מבחינת פומביות. ברגע ש-Ynet מדווחים 
> על זה, ברור שכבר אין טעם לא לדבר על זה, 
> כמובן.

היה נחמד להימנע, ככל האפשר, מפעילויות "סודיות" של העמותה. זו אמורה להיות
עמותת קוד *פתוח* - לא כת סודית שיש לה מה להסתיר. כמובן, מכיוון שאני לא מכיר
את הפרטים של פגישה זו, אולי כן היה במקרה זה סיבה להסתירה. אני לא יודע. אני
לא רואה סיבה "לצלוב" את שחר על הפעילות המבורכת שלו בנושא זה.


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Re: KMail and IMAP (IDLE?)

[Uri Sharf]

Oded Arbel wrote:
בWednesday 05 May 2004 13:46, נכתב על ידי Uri Sharf:
 

I used to run it (earlier versions)  of my local IMAP server with no
problems, but in this particular case it's  at my Hosting service. I'm
trying to get this info and traces if possible so I can open a bug with
KMail.
Checked KMail but it doesn't have any thing confgiurable (in the GUI) to
restrict connection. I'll have to look around. Thanks for the tip.
   

Kmail doesn't have number of connections configuration as it only uses one 
connection to each server.

 

Yes. It seems. I'm workign concurently with Thunderbird w/o any 
problems, so guess it's Kmail's problem. The server I'm connecting to is 
courier btw, just confirmed.

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Re: MySQL vs. Microsoft Access

[Uri Bruck]

Uri Even-Chen wrote:

On 2/18/07, Arieh Skliarouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I see only-tables conversion as good first step. There is howto on
access-mysql conversion:
http://www.kitebird.com/articles/access-migrate.html


There is a great feature we use with the tables stored in Microsoft
Access.  I defined one-to-many connections between tables - at least
50 connections.  Access enforces these connections - you can't add a
record to the table with "many" if there is not a key in the table
with "one" connected to it.  You also can't modify the key data on
both connected sides, and you can't delete connected records on the
"one" side of the connection.  If I want to create an Access query, I
open the tables database and add tables, and the connections are added
automatically.

Are there table connections in MySQL?
Mysql has more than one storage engine. They differ in features. The 
feature you describe is called Foreign Keys.

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/storage-engine-choosing.html
The link compares the features you get with the different engines.
There's more about each of them here:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/storage-engine-overview.html

Take a look. See it suits your needs.



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Re: System stopped wotking with firefox

[Uri Bruck]

Zvi Har'El wrote:


אכן, בשלב זה, אתר הכללית תומך רק בדפדפנים מסוג אינטרנט אקספלורר של 
מיקרוסופט מגרסה 5.5 ומעלה.


מבדיקות תקופתיות שאנו עורכים על הרגלי הגלישה בישראל עולה כי כ-98% 
מכלל הגולשים בישראל משתמשים בדפדפן מסוג אינטרנט אקספלורר (הנתונים על 
הרגלי הגלישה בעולם, אגב, מראים כי 93.7% מהגולשים משתמשים בדפדפן זה).



מה מקור הנתונים האילו?
אני קורא די הרבה סטטיסיטיקות של שימוש בדפדנים שונים, םגם של אתרים 
מרכזיים שמפרסמים סטטיטיקות על עצמם וגם של כאלו שאוספים מידע ממספר 
מקורות, והמזפרים לא קרובים אפילו.

כבר שנתיים שאקספלורר מתחת ל90% (פרט ליפן)
ובאירופה אף מתחת  ל 80%
ובירידה.



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Re: System stopped wotking with firefox

[Uri Bruck]

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070222-8908.html
Explorer: below 80% and continues to drop

http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/January/browser.php
http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/February/browser.php
The Counter
Explorer : approx. 83%

http://www.onestat.com/html/aboutus_pressbox50-microsoft-internet-explorer-7-usage.html
OneStat
explorer: approx. 85%

http://www.adtech.info/en/pr-06-5.html
adtech
Explorer : 80%

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=0&qpmr=15&qpdt=1&qpct=3&qptimeframe=Q&qpsp=32
Market Share (net applications)
Explorer: approx. 80%

None of this even comes close to the 93.7% figure given by clalit.
That might have been true 4-5 years ago, certainly not today.



Uri Bruck wrote:

Zvi Har'El wrote:


אכן, בשלב זה, אתר הכללית תומך רק בדפדפנים מסוג אינטרנט אקספלורר של 
מיקרוסופט מגרסה 5.5 ומעלה.


מבדיקות תקופתיות שאנו עורכים על הרגלי הגלישה בישראל עולה כי כ-98% 
מכלל הגולשים בישראל משתמשים בדפדפן מסוג אינטרנט אקספלורר (הנתונים על 
הרגלי הגלישה בעולם, אגב, מראים כי 93.7% מהגולשים משתמשים בדפדפן זה).



מה מקור הנתונים האילו?
אני קורא די הרבה סטטיסיטיקות של שימוש בדפדנים שונים, םגם של אתרים 
מרכזיים שמפרסמים סטטיטיקות על עצמם וגם של כאלו שאוספים מידע ממספר 
מקורות, והמזפרים לא קרובים אפילו.

כבר שנתיים שאקספלורר מתחת ל90% (פרט ליפן)
ובאירופה אף מתחת  ל 80%
ובירידה.







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Re: Competitor to VMWare?

[Uri Sharf]

The User Mode sounds interesting, any experiance with that?

BTW you can see a more up to date screenshot, running WinXP on Linux, 
available here: 
http://linmagazine.co.il/node/view/1782

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On Thursday 27 May 2004 16:10, you wrote:
> Hi People,
>
> Lately I've been following a project which might interest few people
> here. It's called: QEMU
>
> QEMU is an open source "Virtual PC" emulator. Unlike BOCHS, it's quite
> fast (a bit slower then VMWare, but not by much)..
>
> Although the project is in version 0.5.x stages (meaning - some
> necessary features are missing), it shows a great promise.
>
> Some of it's features:
>
> * Install (almost) any X86 OS as a guest (Windows 9x, ME, NT, 2000, XP,
> 2003, *BSD, Linux, etc)
> * It's not only emulating full X86 system, but also:
>
>   * PowerPC (604 for now)
>   * ARM 7
>   * Sparc (no FPU yet)
>So you can install some OS's (Linux PPC, Linux for ARM, SparcLinux, etc)
> * Fully open source (the engine is under LGPL, BIOS under MIT license,
> the program under GPL)..
>
> The program is still buggy and there are missing features there, but at
> the moment it looks great and I'm using Windows XP + Office XP with it,
> and it seems to work pretty well..
>
> Why do I mention it here? for quite few reasons:
>
> * If you plan to buy VMWare in the future, you might want to evaluate it
> before sinking $300 per machine
> * It can help when a user doesn't have money but do want to run his
> windows apps (Windows on Linux, Linux on Windows - QEMU can run on both
> and almost on any other unix)..
>
> URL: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
> I made a small Windows 98 (guest) howto [not finished yet] + some
> screenshots and a nightly source snapshot, available at:
> http://dad-answers.com/qemu/
>
> Thanks,
> Hetz
>
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Re: Fedora Core 1 slowness?

[Uri Sharf]

I have FC2 on Dell Inspiron 8200, P4 Mobile 2.0Ghz, with 512 MB and 
performance, in KDE especially, can be outrageously bad. Menus can take 
couple of seconds to open etc. I also run Debian on the same machine, same 
version of KDE (3.2.2), and the difference in performance is very obvious. I 
have DMA enabled, but I didn't test any further. 

I didn't work with FC1 for long on this machine, but I remeber having exactly 
the same problems. 

Uri

On Wednesday 02 June 2004 14:23, Adir Abraham wrote:
> Hi Omer,
>
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Omer Zak wrote:
> > The system configuration is:
> > 128MB memory
> > 256MB swap
> > 1.7GHz Intel Mobile Celeron (stepping 07) processor (3381.65 BogoMIPS)
> > Gnome desktop
> >
> > What should I check in order to speed up the system?
>
> Although you might not like to hear this, you should blame your
> hardware. Upgrade your hardware...
>
> 128MB of memory is too little for today's demands. You should upgrade it
> to 256MB, although 512MB is highly recommended. You can add another
> 256MB SODIMM chip to your laptop so you will have 384MB total. It can more
> than serve you the best for the next few years.
>
> Your processor is quite on the limit. What kind of processor is it? Is it
> the "regular" Celeron? or is it Celeron-M? If it's a regular Celeron, then
> it is not good. Your computer will probably have heat problems if you try
> to squeeze it too much (even though regular Celeron processors can fit
> into laptops since they have some primitive heat control - it is not it
> as they had not been created for laptops-use in the first place).
> You should have gone for a Pentium 4-M 2.0GHz, the least, although any
> Pentium M (not 4-M) would do good for you. At least 1.4GHz (see the
> differences - Pentium M != 4-M != 4).
>
> You also didn't say what's the size of your HD, and what's its speed
> (4200RPM or 5400RPM. I highly doubt that it is 7200RPM). It can highly
> affect the performance of your whole system.
>
> Last but not least, maybe you actually don't have DMA activated (suppose
> your HD is at least UATA 100, it can highly increase your system's
> performance). To check your HD's performance, you can do this (suppose
> that /dev/hda is your HD. well, it should be):
>
> hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>
> later on, you can try to activate your HD's DMA if you see that it is not
> activated, by doing this:
>
> hdparm -d 1 -A 1 -m 16 -u 1 -a 64 /dev/hda
>
> If DMA wasn't activated, you will highly feel the differences.
> Whatsoever, I still recommend you to do some hardware upgrade. At least
> add some memory. I also assume that the swap is used too much because you
> don't have enough RAM. If you want to be really free with what you run on
> a KDE/Gnome environment, add 256MB to your laptop, so you will have 384MB
> at least. In addition to enabling DMA for your HD (in case it wasn't done
> by your distribution automatically) - your problem will be solved and you
> will dramatically see a different.
>
> Best regards,
>
>       Adir.
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Re: reinstalling sound driver

[Uri Sharf]

On Tuesday 08 June 2004 13:41, Amir Spivak wrote:
> Hi all,
> I setup a Fedora core 1 machine with a new ASUS motherboard, the audio
> device is onboard and was detected as Intel Corp... it isn't Intel sound
> card and i don't know how to reinstall the driver. 

If you are using ALSA, try alsaconfig script available from ALSA's site or 
maybe even pre-installed with the alsa-tools package. If still OSS, re-run 
Fedora's  sound detection test tool. 
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