When my Rodeo was ready to ship, I asked Mark to send a pair of Rolly Polly tires with the order. He steered me to the JB's. Said the frame was designed for this tire size. My previous road bike was a Rambouillet and I loved the RP tires on it. I was hesitant to go with the 33.3333's on the Roadeo. After the first ride I was hooked. My Roadeo is a 59 and my Rambouillet was a 60. Dont really notice a weight difference between the two. However the Roadeo is way lighter than my SimpleOne, but they both get ridden a good amount.
Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO ----- Original Message ----- From: "cyclotourist" <cyclotour...@gmail.com> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:21:57 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: AHH or Rodeo? I ran the #'s through JimG's trail calc , and interestingly enough, on 59cm frames , the trail (and presumably handling) is the same when the Roadeo has 28mm tires (60mm trail), and AHH has 40's (61mm trail). So if you like the way Rivendell's handle/steer, your choice of bike should include a decision on the size of tire you want to ride most of the time. The threadless headset mentioned above is nice on a Roadeo, too. I'm quite the convert to those. Would like to get that option on all Rivendell bikes. Please discuss amongst yourselves. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 8:28 AM, James Warren < jimcwar...@earthlink.net > wrote: Different head angle and different wheel base, with Roadeo being steeper and shorter respectively. I think these are important contributors to the difference in ride. In addition, with 130 mm spacing, the Roadeo is more conducive to lighter road wheels, but of course, this would be a trend and one could buck it by having specially made light wheels with 135 mm hubs for the AHH. On Apr 5, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: <blockquote> Well, if we were in "roadie world", where a few ounces was important, then the Roadeo wouldn't be a very good choice, because it is substantially heavier than other "roadie world" bikes. But I think most people on this list agree that a few ounces, even a pound or two, doesn't significantly affect speediness. Most of us readily pay the weight penalty of steel for cosmetics or nostalgia or ride quality or toughness or versatility. In fact, my experience is that a lot of Riv types prefer heavier parts, because they distrust (often rightfully) anything optimized for racing or for appealing to weight weenies. I sort of believe that the AHH and the Roadeo are 99% the same bike. Put light parts on the AHH and you'd have a 19lb bike instead of a 18lb bike. On Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:14:14 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: <blockquote> The Roadeo has lighter tubing. It may only be a "few ounces", but in "roadie world" this is a significant detail. The Roadeo is Grant's effort to offer a "modern" lugged-steel bicycle to folks who otherwise wouldn't purchase a Rivendell. I'm sure it's also the answer to the question, "What if we built a production version of a road bike Mark Abele would order from Nobilette..?" Joe Bernard Vaallejo, CA. On Thursday, April 5, 2012 8:05:24 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: <blockquote> Can anybody clearly articulate the differences between the AHH and the Roadeo? I doubt the weight difference is more than a few ounces. And having followed Rivendell's trajectory of bike design pretty closely for the past 8 years, I'd be surprised if the geometry was vastly different between the two models. So a lot of people seem to be saying the Roadeo is faster. Why? Personally, the few times I've tried to own a "road bike", I put very few miles on it because of the lack of versatility and the inability to carry much cargo. On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 7:01:54 PM UTC-5, Duplomacette wrote: <blockquote> I'm seriously considering adding another Riv to my small stable of bikes. I currently own a Sam and I like it just fine but would like to have another bike with a bit more zip. The Rodeo seems like a good choice and I do like the 700 wheels mostly for more tire options BUT I feel the AHH could be a good choice too if I build it up more as a roadish bike and in the end I'd have a bike a bit more versatile than the Rodeo. 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