There's a spectacularly fast brevet rider on an Orange 700c Hilsen in Santa Cruz. He rides on 25mm tires by my reckoning, and he's got a very sporty contemporary build on his Hilsen. I have not had time to dwell on the details because after we get out of town on a 200 or a 300k, he just rests his forearms on the tops, and puts it into gear and disappears down Hwy 1 cruising at 40kph, leaving me and other humans to our slower paces. I love the color of his bike, and I love the Hilsen deeply (as I have a 58cm 650B one, and have considered more than once getting a 59cm 700c one), but it looks wrong with 25mm tires.
On Thursday, April 5, 2012 8:21:02 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > > Well, if we were in "roadie world", where a few ounces was important, then > the Roadeo wouldn't be a very good choice, because it is substantially > heavier than other "roadie world" bikes. But I think most people on this > list agree that a few ounces, even a pound or two, doesn't significantly > affect speediness. Most of us readily pay the weight penalty of steel for > cosmetics or nostalgia or ride quality or toughness or versatility. In > fact, my experience is that a lot of Riv types prefer heavier parts, > because they distrust (often rightfully) anything optimized for racing or > for appealing to weight weenies. > > I sort of believe that the AHH and the Roadeo are 99% the same bike. Put > light parts on the AHH and you'd have a 19lb bike instead of a 18lb bike. > > > > > > On Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:14:14 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: >> >> The Roadeo has lighter tubing. It may only be a "few ounces", but in >> "roadie world" this is a significant detail. The Roadeo is Grant's effort >> to offer a "modern" lugged-steel bicycle to folks who otherwise wouldn't >> purchase a Rivendell. I'm sure it's also the answer to the question, "What >> if we built a production version of a road bike Mark Abele would order from >> Nobilette..?" >> >> Joe Bernard >> Vaallejo, CA. >> >> On Thursday, April 5, 2012 8:05:24 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery >> wrote: >> >>> Can anybody clearly articulate the differences between the AHH and the >>> Roadeo? I doubt the weight difference is more than a few ounces. And having >>> followed Rivendell's trajectory of bike design pretty closely for the past >>> 8 years, I'd be surprised if the geometry was vastly different between the >>> two models. So a lot of people seem to be saying the Roadeo is faster. Why? >>> >>> Personally, the few times I've tried to own a "road bike", I put very >>> few miles on it because of the lack of versatility and the inability to >>> carry much cargo. >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 7:01:54 PM UTC-5, Duplomacette wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm seriously considering adding another Riv to my small stable of >>>> bikes. I currently own a Sam and I like it just fine but would like to >>>> have another bike with a bit more zip. The Rodeo seems like a good >>>> choice and I do like the 700 wheels mostly for more tire options BUT I >>>> feel the AHH could be a good choice too if I build it up more as a >>>> roadish bike and in the end I'd have a bike a bit more versatile than >>>> the Rodeo. Thoughts? >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6dqAN6baHsgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
