Well, if we were in "roadie world", where a few ounces was important, then 
the Roadeo wouldn't be a very good choice, because it is substantially 
heavier than other "roadie world" bikes. But I think most people on this 
list agree that a few ounces, even a pound or two, doesn't significantly 
affect speediness. Most of us readily pay the weight penalty of steel for 
cosmetics or nostalgia or ride quality or toughness or versatility. In 
fact, my experience is that a lot of Riv types prefer heavier parts, 
because they distrust (often rightfully) anything optimized for racing or 
for appealing to weight weenies.

I sort of believe that the AHH and the Roadeo are 99% the same bike. Put 
light parts on the AHH and you'd have a 19lb bike instead of a 18lb bike.





On Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:14:14 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The Roadeo has lighter tubing. It may only be a "few ounces", but in 
> "roadie world" this is a significant detail. The Roadeo is Grant's effort 
> to offer a "modern" lugged-steel bicycle to folks who otherwise wouldn't 
> purchase a Rivendell. I'm sure it's also the answer to the question, "What 
> if we built a production version of a road bike Mark Abele would order from 
> Nobilette..?"
>  
> Joe Bernard
> Vaallejo, CA.
>
> On Thursday, April 5, 2012 8:05:24 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
> wrote:
>
>> Can anybody clearly articulate the differences between the AHH and the 
>> Roadeo? I doubt the weight difference is more than a few ounces. And having 
>> followed Rivendell's trajectory of bike design pretty closely for the past 
>> 8 years, I'd be surprised if the geometry was vastly different between the 
>> two models. So a lot of people seem to be saying the Roadeo is faster. Why?
>>
>> Personally, the few times I've tried to own a "road bike", I put very few 
>> miles on it because of the lack of versatility and the inability to carry 
>> much cargo.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 7:01:54 PM UTC-5, Duplomacette wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm seriously considering adding another Riv to my small stable of 
>>> bikes. I currently own a Sam and I like it just fine but would like to 
>>> have another bike with a bit more zip. The Rodeo seems like a good 
>>> choice and I do like the 700 wheels mostly for more tire options BUT I 
>>> feel the AHH could be a good choice too if I build it up more as a 
>>> roadish bike and in the end I'd have a bike a bit more versatile than 
>>> the Rodeo. Thoughts?
>>
>>

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