Aside from the various commendable points about free speech and tolerance, I would like to offer an alternate viewpoint in support of Luke's position. This is a chap who, whilst supporting a young family, has worked immeasurably hard creating this jewel of a product for (presumably) little financial gain. Now at the crucial point where Puppet is becoming established and commercially viable, he finds not only his ideas but also a lot of the terminology taken to form a competing product that claims in the strap-line of the home page to be "building the best infrastructure automation platform on the planet." Chef stands as a genuine rival in marketing terms and if I were him I would find this somewhat galling. As I see it, his restraint, even to the point of asking his community for advice on this matter, has been commendable.
Obviously in open source forks occur. Often this is when the project leader is an autocrat who insists on absolute control but from my experience of Luke's postings he is a decent chap, who answers a huge number of postings and always in a helpful manner regardless of the fact that the same question may have been asked many times. Sometimes the fork occurs for sound technical reasons but in this instance I can't see it, the products look just too similar. As an earlier contributor stated it would be good to air that discussion separately so that newcomers to configuration management do not just veer to Chef as they assume the the newest must be the best. If the reason, as I suspect is purely commercial and opportunistic, then I believe Luke deserves our support. These things happen, I know and hardly ever in a way that does not harm the original project. In my mind taking someones ideas and using them to benefit yourself to the likely detriment of others is rude. As Luke is a decent bloke and does not deserve to be taken advantage of, it's doubly so. I think if you want to go ahead and ban these people, Luke, even if its for no other reason then making yourself feel better you should do so. You have my support for one Paul 2009/3/4 Frank Sweetser <f...@wpi.edu> > > Luke Kanies wrote: > > > I have the same confusion, but the initial publication of Chef was > > made with many claims that it was just easier for them to start again > > than to try to understand Puppet's code base or to try to participate > > as developers. Of course, this is a development truism: It's *always* > > easier to start from scratch, it's just not not always better. > > Starting is easy; finishing is harder. > > -- > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL > Mencken > GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC > > > > -- Paul Matthews ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
