On Mar 4, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Ben Beuchler wrote:

>
>> What do others think?  Should it be acceptable to privately contact
>> members of our community, encouraging them to leave?
>
> It may be rude, but as long as they're not being threatening or
> interfering with the communication flow, it seems it would be silly to
> ban them.  To do so would seem to be saying that either:
>
> 1) the community members are too stupid to make their own decisions
> and must be protected from the dangerous teachings of the dissidents,
> or
> 2) the other community is, in fact, superior and you need to block
> communications in order to retain your own community.

While I can't disagree with what you're saying, it seems to me that  
there's something qualitively different between discussions on the  
list about other projects and using the list as a marketing resource  
for competing projects, which is essentially what's going on here.

I actually have no problem at all with people talking about Chef or  
Cfengine or Quattor or whatever (including commercial tools like  
BladeLogic or OpsWare) on the list, and in many ways I encourage it -  
I think our product and community can and should stand against any of  
them, and if it starts to fall down there I want to know so I can fix  
it.

It's when people trawl the list looking for conversion targets whom  
they then contact privately that I start to get a bit put out.

>
> We're grown ups.  If someone is bugging us out-of-band, we can tell
> them to go away, block their email, or decide to accompany them to
> their fabulous World of Wonder and Excitement.

I expect this will be the general consensus.

I hate having to behave like an adult, rather than a petulant, jealous  
9 year old. :)

>
> Out of curiosity, which other group is trying to snipe people away?   
> Chef?

Importantly, it's not a group, it's an individual member of the Chef  
community, AJ/fujin.

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