On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:00:51PM -0700, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Nicolas wrote:
> 
> > Steven,
> > 
> > I'm now running some tests with the filters on, and the parameters you
> > suggested. The result is nice. I mean, the video isn't very blurry, and
> > the noise is reduced.
> 
>       Super!  
> 
> > You asked me why I don't use FinalCutPro? Well, probably because
> > Open-Source is my philosophy.
> 
>       I'll respect your decision to restrict your choices and limit the
>       size of the toolkit.  But when you want to move up from DV you're
>       going to find the choices very limited...
> 
>       A wise craftsman knows 1) to use the proper tool to do the job and
>       2) welcomes a larger toolkit even if that means combining free and
>       commercial tools.

Well, I'm a wise "open-source only" geek encoding his family videos. I'm
sure there are better tools on Windows or Mac OS-X. But I just don't
want to use commercial OSes or software. My philosophy about software is
in fact more important for me than a "little better" video. I've got no
problem with Macintosh, but Microsoft stuff and everything which runs on
that OS is forbidden in my home.

> > As regards to the color correction, I know I can modify the histogram of
> > the pictures in Cinelerra. However, do you know of any automated method
> 
>       Actually it wouldn't be the histogram that's used when doing 
>       color correction.  It'd 1) use the vectorscope, and 2) an external
>       calibrated monitor. 
> 
> > of doing the correction you talk about? A command I could include in the
> > mjpegtools pipe for example. ;-)
> 
>       None that are compatible with your philosophy ;)    Besides color
>       correction needs to be done scene by scene in many cases (you do need
>       to make sure that scenes "match" so that you don't have disruptive
>       chroma shifts between scenes) using an external monitor - NOT just
>       stuffing a command in the encoding pipeline.
> 
>       Oh, the tool that could do it IF you could see what you're doing to 
>       arrive at the correct parameters is 'yuvcorrect'.  
> 
> > reference was what was displayed on my monitor. Unfortunately, the video
> 
>       Aieeee - you can NOT and should not under ANY circumstances use a
>       computer monitor for color correction.  But you know that NOW :)

You are right. I have an ADVC-110, which convert analog to digital, and
digital (DV) to analog. There's probably a way to use that little box to
display my DV videos on a TV, but I still have to figure out how to make
it work.

> > looked really different when displayed on a TV. I then discovered the
> > way the luminance is displayed on a monitor and a TV is really
> > different... :-/
> 
>       Not just luminance.  It's the color range that can be displayed.
>       TVs do not handle highly saturated colors well either.
> 
>       Something like a Sony PVM14L2 (which is what I use) is a good 
>       inexpensive production monitor.  
> 
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&kw=SOPVM14L2&is=REG&Q=&O=productlist&sku=271229

I have a normal small TV set near my monitors. For the moment, I have to
encode my videos, burn them on a DVD, and then look at them... :-/

Thank you!
Nicolas.


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