Hi, I switched to mac in August. I was greatly surprised when VO read the PDF document I had to download for one of my classes. JAWS never did that or didn't do it without a ton of work on my part.The only thing VO gives me issues with is charts in Pages.
Becky and C On Jan 4, 2012, at 7:57 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: > Hi, > > As a newish user of mac, and someone who rely heavily on PDFs for > research and work purposes, i haven't come across any pdf issue. i > suppose something we need to understand, the issue is not with > screenreader itself, is with the image of the pdf itself. If you have > a scann image pdf file, regardless you use jaws, windoweyes, nvda, > system access or voiceover, unless you have an OCR, otherwise the > problem will still exist. However, i must say, from my pass months > experience, voiceover and include the IOS Voiceover, seems to be the > best screen reader when dealing with pdf. > It is not fair to compare Jaws or NVDA with Voiceover. you are kind of > comparing orrange and lemon, deciding what is better for you. > Regardless of what the arguements are, Jaws does slow things down > rapitly. You won't realize until you have a sighted person uses the > same computer as you do, turn your screenreader off, and have a go on > that. Even in some case, NVDA is more faster and supirial compare to > jaws. > Same with any other screen reader, it does slow things down, just > depends on if its in 0.001 second for voiceover or 1.00 second for > jaws. > > Just my 0.2 sense of thoughts > > Cheers > Joanne > > On 05/01/2012, matthew Dyer <matthewd...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have been using my mac mini full time for quite some time now and I fimnd >> it to be useful for what I do even though there times I still wish I had a >> pc for things like sauving captches in firefox since ff is not accessible on >> the mac and never will be I gather. I am still try to get dropbox to work >> on this machine here and have not been secessful so far. it would also be >> nice to have a pc around for playing around with vinux, but that is a small >> thing since i can not afford vmware fusion at the moment. Just my >> thoughts. >> >> Matthew >> >> >> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >> >>> Very well said. I've had my mac since may, and although I've recently >>> become far more fond of Itunes than my bank account is >>> comfortable with, I just don't use it for daily tasks. I just can't get >>> comfortable with any of the word processing options, >>> and since I've been using a PC for close to 25 years, I'm always going to >>> be more comfortable on a windows platform. One of >>> my favorite activities, especially while I'm unemployed, is playing games, >>> and while I'm thrilled that the RS games client >>> works on the mac, there aren't any other options. I'm still hoping for a >>> truly accessible mud client; if atlantis is >>> accessible, I sure haven't figured out how to make it speak automatically. >>> My other major task is writing/editing a story I've been working on for >>> several years now. I just can't get comfortable >>> working on my files using the mac, so just keep using good old wordpad on >>> the PC. >>> Since it cost me so much money, I have chosen to use the mac for things >>> that either don't work or I don't want to mess with >>> on my PC: adium, skype, itunes, and a couple of other similar things that >>> I can't remember at the moment. I figure that the >>> mac is a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong, and that's definitely >>> something I'll give Apple credit for; you can >>> install the operating system without any sighted assistance, and with >>> carbon copy cloner and time machine, it's easy to >>> restore your machine on the off chance that something catastrophic >>> happens. Another thing that I really love about the mac is >>> Growl. It essensially reads things that happen in the system tray: changes >>> in dropbox files for example. That's 1 thing my PC >>> can't do, or if it can, I don't know how to set it up, so the mac is >>> really awesome in that respect. >>> With all that being said, however, while I certainly like my mac a lot >>> more than I did when I first bought it, to be >>> perfectly honest, there's still a rather big part of me that regrets the >>> purchase. I eventually hope to get bootcamp and/or >>> VM fusion up and running, but so far, that just hasn't happened. >>> I hope this makes at least a little sense and that it helps you in your >>> decision. Sadly, I can't comment on the large print >>> side of things, but I've become moderately comfortable with using >>> Voiceover. Good luck in whatever decision you make, and I >>> hope this helps you out at least a little. >>> Missy >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:01 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac from PC >>> >>> I got a Mini after hearing nothing but great things about the Mac and >>> VoiceOver. I can honestly say that I regret the >>> decision. I never understood editing, my system seemed sluggish compared >>> to NVDA with Windows, and web browsing is slow on >>> the Mac when using vo. Also, a lot of what I do on the pc is audio gaming, >>> and not so much as a good, accessible version of >>> Solitaire is available on the Mac, let alone shooting, strategy, or other >>> intensively audio games. >>> I am still willing to admit that a good, long skype session with someone >>> who is an experienced Mac user may help me, but as >>> of right now I almost never boot into Mac, using the Windows half of my >>> dual-booting mini almost exclusively. If you do >>> switch, make sure to either set up bootcamp or a virtual machine so you >>> can run Windows, because I can pretty much promise >>> that you will still be using Windows for a while after you start playing >>> with the mac. Sorry to be so negative, but that's my >>> experience so far. >>> >>> On 1/3/12, Red.Falcon <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> wrote: >>>> Hi Chuck! >>>> Although I do not use windows and never have! >>>> I have seen posts about the zoom and one thing the Mac cannot do is >>>> change colours! >>>> So its black on white or vice vursor! >>>> hth Colin >>>> >>>> On 4 Jan 2012, at 00:05, Chuck wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC. >>>>> I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs. >>>>> I am currently using a PC with Windows 7 and zoom text as my >>>>> magnification and reading software. >>>>> I would like to hear from those of you who have made the switch. >>>>> What pitfalls should I look for? Are there any trade-offs? >>>>> In your opinion after making the switch which is the better system? >>>>> Why? >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> Chuck >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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