Ge,, I think you were not told the truth about the social security site not 
supporting Safari.  I had to use it just the other week and no issues at all.

A little cluttered but I got done what I needed to do.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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On Jan 4, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> Hi guys.
> I think it's a matter of learning some things which are different from what 
> we're used to if we're switchers. For instance, it never occurred to me, 
> until an Apple person told me, that headers were used in numbers for columns 
> and headings automatically. When I finally figured this out, I discovered 
> that, for instance, in Numbers if set up header rows and/or columns VoiceOver 
> will say those things when you land on them. It is easier to set up than it 
> is in Windows because all you have to do is go to Tables and tell it how many 
> headers rows etc. you want. 
> 
> Now I know that some of you guys have put Windows on your Macs. That's the 
> last thing I want to do. However, I am about to have to go in the other room 
> and use the desktop that's under Vista because the old good Social Security 
> Administration has, I think got pdf files on there for putting W2s for 
> employees. Also, they basically told me yesterday their web site doesn't 
> support Safari. I have been using it on the web site, but when I read the 
> part about the pdf files for sending W2s for employees by printing and/or 
> reviewing the pdf files, I figure that I better use Windows. I sure hope 
> those things are accessible when I get there, but I have an awful feeling 
> they are not. Federal web sites are usually better, but their fillable pdf 
> files are not always accessible. I don't know about you guys, but sometimes 
> this accessibility thing makes me tired. I'm probably going to need a reader. 
> Yippee!! 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Oh boy I agree.  I find the Mac way way faster in everything, and I'm dual 
>> booting my MBP and the mac side is sstill way faster than windows.
>> 
>> Reach within you, find the beauty of you, then share your light with the 
>> world!
>> 
>> Marlaina Lieberg
>> 1guide...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>> lol,
>> 
>> I think your sighted friend is on drugs.  :).  I find the Mac to be just as 
>> fas and more often than not faster when doing tasks than windows when a 
>> screen reader is not involved.  Man, You know how long it takes iTunes to 
>> open on windows sometimes? smh.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Chuck wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the information. I do plan to use my PC and the Mac Mini in
>>> parallel until I get used to the Mac. I am familiar with voice over
>>> and zoom on the iPhone and iPad and I'm hoping that they translate as
>>> well to the Mac Mini.
>>> 
>>> I have a sighted friend who also says that the Mac is a little more
>>> sluggish than the PC. I don't do any gaming, 90% of my computer uses
>>> buying online, word processing, and web development
>>> 
>>> But having dealt with Zoom text for the last 15 years, I am totally
>>> frustrated with the program. I have to reboot it about five times
>>> every day in order to get the text smooting to work. And it no longer
>>> works with Internet Explorer nine. I'm sure that when they do finally
>>> fix it, they'll want another $150 for the update.
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 6:22 pm, "Missy Hoppe" <melis...@fuse.net> wrote:
>>>> Very well said. I've had my mac since may, and although I've recently 
>>>> become far more fond of Itunes than my bank account is
>>>> comfortable with, I just don't use it for daily tasks. I just can't get 
>>>> comfortable with any of the word processing options,
>>>> and since I've been using a PC for close to 25 years, I'm always going to 
>>>> be more comfortable on a windows platform. One of
>>>> my favorite activities, especially while I'm unemployed, is playing games, 
>>>> and while I'm thrilled that the RS games client
>>>> works on the mac, there aren't any other options. I'm still hoping for a 
>>>> truly accessible mud client; if atlantis is
>>>> accessible, I sure haven't figured out how to make it speak automatically.
>>>> My other major task is writing/editing a story I've been working on for 
>>>> several years now. I just can't get comfortable
>>>> working on my files using the mac, so just keep using good old wordpad on 
>>>> the PC.
>>>> Since it cost me so much money, I have chosen to use the mac for things 
>>>> that either don't work or I don't want to mess with
>>>> on my PC: adium, skype, itunes, and a couple of other similar things that 
>>>> I can't remember at the moment. I figure that the
>>>> mac is a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong, and that's definitely 
>>>> something I'll give Apple credit for; you can
>>>> install the operating system without any sighted assistance, and with 
>>>> carbon copy cloner and time machine, it's easy to
>>>> restore your machine on the off chance that something catastrophic 
>>>> happens. Another thing that I really love about the mac is
>>>> Growl. It essensially reads things that happen in the system tray: changes 
>>>> in dropbox files for example. That's 1 thing my PC
>>>> can't do, or if it can, I don't know how to set it up, so the mac is 
>>>> really awesome in that respect.
>>>> With all that being said, however, while I certainly like my mac a lot 
>>>> more than I did when I first bought it, to be
>>>> perfectly honest, there's still a rather big part of me that regrets the 
>>>> purchase. I eventually hope to get bootcamp and/or
>>>> VM fusion up and running, but so far, that just hasn't happened.
>>>> I hope this makes at least a little sense and that it helps you in your 
>>>> decision. Sadly, I can't comment on the large print
>>>> side of things, but I've become moderately comfortable with using 
>>>> Voiceover. Good luck in whatever decision you make, and I
>>>> hope this helps you out at least a little.
>>>> Missy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:01 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac from PC
>>>> 
>>>> I got a Mini after hearing nothing but great things about the Mac and 
>>>> VoiceOver. I can honestly say that I regret the
>>>> decision. I never understood editing, my system seemed sluggish compared 
>>>> to NVDA with Windows, and web browsing is slow on
>>>> the Mac when using vo. Also, a lot of what I do on the pc is audio gaming, 
>>>> and not so much as a good, accessible version of
>>>> Solitaire is available on the Mac, let alone shooting, strategy, or other 
>>>> intensively audio games.
>>>> I am still willing to admit that a good, long skype session with someone 
>>>> who is an experienced Mac user may help me, but as
>>>> of right now I almost never boot into Mac, using the Windows half of my 
>>>> dual-booting mini almost exclusively. If you do
>>>> switch, make sure to either set up bootcamp or a virtual machine so you 
>>>> can run Windows, because I can pretty much promise
>>>> that you will still be using Windows for a while after you start playing 
>>>> with the mac. Sorry to be so negative, but that's my
>>>> experience so far.
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/3/12, Red.Falcon <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Chuck!
>>>>> Although I do not use windows and never have!
>>>>> I have seen posts about the zoom and one thing the Mac cannot do is
>>>>> change colours!
>>>>> So its black on white or vice vursor!
>>>>> hth Colin
>>>> 
>>>>> On 4 Jan 2012, at 00:05, Chuck wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>> I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC.
>>>>>> I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs.
>>>>>> I am currently using a PC with Windows 7 and zoom text as my
>>>>>> magnification and reading software.
>>>>>> I would like to hear from those of you who have made the switch.
>>>>>> What pitfalls should I look for? Are there any trade-offs?
>>>>>> In your opinion after making the switch which is the better system?
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> Chuck
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