Fire fox?  thats not even accessible with voiceover.

Ricardo Walker
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On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Luca wrote:

> I am using a mac since late  2010 and frankly  have to say that  i am
> not going to switch to   a mac  with vo, too many bugs and things that
> you cannot simply do  with vo: advanced word processing, terrible
> braille support, tinefficient web browsing (many sites simply dont
> work with vo, and  what about that busy bug  in firefox? its making me
> crazy), lots of bugs in non english standard voices, inability to
> read the status bar in the  main menu, and others.
> Tell me some things that you cant do in windows an can do with vo in
> mac.. i i cant find any...
> Mr. L. Alexander ha scritto:
>> amen.
>> 
>> I fully agree.
>> 
>> the trick of IT is getting the balance right. There are things windows can 
>> do that mac does differently and things that windows can't offer directly 
>> that mac does. each screen reader offers different levels of support and 
>> interoperability between OS and applications.
>> 
>> For me, I've worked between windows, Mac OSS both old and X versions and 
>> linux. each OS and screen reader can offer different functionality. each has 
>> their strengths and weaknesses. Though I firmly stick to my mac and 
>> voiceover, I still have to work on occasions with windows. now more than 
>> ever with the use of adaptive hardware for system repairs and testing.
>> 
>> so it's back to either jaws or window eyes or something like that to do what 
>> I need to do on a windows notebook.
>> 
>> lol
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> On 5 Jan 2012, at 15:29, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> I think its great that we can talk about our choices without getting hung 
>>> about who uses what.  May this list continue in this spirit as in the past 
>>> we have weathered a number of conflicts.  May be the list is maturing which 
>>> is very good to see.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> On 5 Jan 2012, at 02:00 PM, Garth Humphreys <ghu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> I also use Zoomtext on my work PC. I have had my MBA for the past few 
>>>> months. In a lot of ways I love the machine however I also have had some 
>>>> issues.
>>>> 
>>>> Firstly, how much zoom do you use? I will regularly jump up to around 30 
>>>> times depending upon what I am doing. The max zoom on the Mac currently is 
>>>> 20 times. Add to this the minimal colour options. Normal or reverse video, 
>>>> no brightness inversion or other more advance colour management in the 
>>>> zoom option. I should say that there is also contrast control.
>>>> 
>>>> I have also come across an extremely annoying bug when using VO with Zoom. 
>>>> You can't navigate the menu bar properly with the keyboard. It can be done 
>>>> with the track pad or by turning down the zoom level though. There are 
>>>> also a couple of keyboard shortcut conflicts between zoom and VO. .
>>>> 
>>>> I have basically given up on using the Zoom component on the Mac. I will 
>>>> qualify this a bit as not to mislead. I didn't plan on using zoom that 
>>>> much and so bought an 11inch rather than the 13inch MBA. However I did get 
>>>> a connector to hook it up to my 32 inch TV and have probably only done 
>>>> this once or twice.
>>>> 
>>>> You can tell by the fact that I often use the zoom at 30 times that my 
>>>> vision is on the low side of usable :)  I am using JAWS with Zoomtext on 
>>>> the PC. I also have MAGic but prefer Zoomtext. I haven't had the stability 
>>>> issues you describe with Zoomtext.
>>>> 
>>>> The thing I most love about my mac is the physical hardware it's self. I 
>>>> would often prefer to browse the web on my iPad.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck with your choice.
>>>> 
>>>> Garth
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 04/01/2012, at 10:05 AM, Chuck wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>> I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC.
>>>>> I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs.
>>>>> I am currently using a PC with Windows 7 and zoom text as my
>>>>> magnification and reading software.
>>>>> I would like to hear from those of you who have made the switch.
>>>>> What pitfalls should I look for? Are there any trade-offs?
>>>>> In your opinion after making the switch which is the better system?
>>>>> Why?
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Chuck
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