I'm somewhat doubtful about jaws13 OCR capability. Have not heard any good news on their beta so far. But doesn't matter, knowing Freedom scintific, they will soon relist some sort of upgreat so people will pay for it, and if its not working, relist another upgreat. that is just the way they work. For those who have experience, do you see any major improvement from jaws10, 11, and 12? hardly. beside the 64bids and window7 business. and i have more problem with jaws12 than ever.
On 05/01/2012, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > I feel it is only fair to mention that jaws13 and the development versions > of nvda both include OCR, so a scanned image can be read for the most part. > VO does not have this feature, and I think it would be a good idea for those > who would find it useful to email accessibil...@apple.com to point out this > shortcoming. > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from my iPod) > mehg...@gmail.com; //facebook.com/mehgcap > > On Jan 4, 2012, at 19:57, Joanne Chua <shuang.an...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> As a newish user of mac, and someone who rely heavily on PDFs for >> research and work purposes, i haven't come across any pdf issue. i >> suppose something we need to understand, the issue is not with >> screenreader itself, is with the image of the pdf itself. If you have >> a scann image pdf file, regardless you use jaws, windoweyes, nvda, >> system access or voiceover, unless you have an OCR, otherwise the >> problem will still exist. However, i must say, from my pass months >> experience, voiceover and include the IOS Voiceover, seems to be the >> best screen reader when dealing with pdf. >> It is not fair to compare Jaws or NVDA with Voiceover. you are kind of >> comparing orrange and lemon, deciding what is better for you. >> Regardless of what the arguements are, Jaws does slow things down >> rapitly. You won't realize until you have a sighted person uses the >> same computer as you do, turn your screenreader off, and have a go on >> that. Even in some case, NVDA is more faster and supirial compare to >> jaws. >> Same with any other screen reader, it does slow things down, just >> depends on if its in 0.001 second for voiceover or 1.00 second for >> jaws. >> >> Just my 0.2 sense of thoughts >> >> Cheers >> Joanne >> >> On 05/01/2012, matthew Dyer <matthewd...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have been using my mac mini full time for quite some time now and I >>> fimnd >>> it to be useful for what I do even though there times I still wish I had >>> a >>> pc for things like sauving captches in firefox since ff is not accessible >>> on >>> the mac and never will be I gather. I am still try to get dropbox to >>> work >>> on this machine here and have not been secessful so far. it would also >>> be >>> nice to have a pc around for playing around with vinux, but that is a >>> small >>> thing since i can not afford vmware fusion at the moment. Just my >>> thoughts. >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> >>>> Very well said. I've had my mac since may, and although I've recently >>>> become far more fond of Itunes than my bank account is >>>> comfortable with, I just don't use it for daily tasks. I just can't get >>>> comfortable with any of the word processing options, >>>> and since I've been using a PC for close to 25 years, I'm always going >>>> to >>>> be more comfortable on a windows platform. One of >>>> my favorite activities, especially while I'm unemployed, is playing >>>> games, >>>> and while I'm thrilled that the RS games client >>>> works on the mac, there aren't any other options. I'm still hoping for a >>>> truly accessible mud client; if atlantis is >>>> accessible, I sure haven't figured out how to make it speak >>>> automatically. >>>> My other major task is writing/editing a story I've been working on for >>>> several years now. I just can't get comfortable >>>> working on my files using the mac, so just keep using good old wordpad >>>> on >>>> the PC. >>>> Since it cost me so much money, I have chosen to use the mac for things >>>> that either don't work or I don't want to mess with >>>> on my PC: adium, skype, itunes, and a couple of other similar things >>>> that >>>> I can't remember at the moment. I figure that the >>>> mac is a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong, and that's >>>> definitely >>>> something I'll give Apple credit for; you can >>>> install the operating system without any sighted assistance, and with >>>> carbon copy cloner and time machine, it's easy to >>>> restore your machine on the off chance that something catastrophic >>>> happens. Another thing that I really love about the mac is >>>> Growl. It essensially reads things that happen in the system tray: >>>> changes >>>> in dropbox files for example. That's 1 thing my PC >>>> can't do, or if it can, I don't know how to set it up, so the mac is >>>> really awesome in that respect. >>>> With all that being said, however, while I certainly like my mac a lot >>>> more than I did when I first bought it, to be >>>> perfectly honest, there's still a rather big part of me that regrets the >>>> purchase. I eventually hope to get bootcamp and/or >>>> VM fusion up and running, but so far, that just hasn't happened. >>>> I hope this makes at least a little sense and that it helps you in your >>>> decision. Sadly, I can't comment on the large print >>>> side of things, but I've become moderately comfortable with using >>>> Voiceover. Good luck in whatever decision you make, and I >>>> hope this helps you out at least a little. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:01 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac from PC >>>> >>>> I got a Mini after hearing nothing but great things about the Mac and >>>> VoiceOver. I can honestly say that I regret the >>>> decision. I never understood editing, my system seemed sluggish compared >>>> to NVDA with Windows, and web browsing is slow on >>>> the Mac when using vo. Also, a lot of what I do on the pc is audio >>>> gaming, >>>> and not so much as a good, accessible version of >>>> Solitaire is available on the Mac, let alone shooting, strategy, or >>>> other >>>> intensively audio games. >>>> I am still willing to admit that a good, long skype session with someone >>>> who is an experienced Mac user may help me, but as >>>> of right now I almost never boot into Mac, using the Windows half of my >>>> dual-booting mini almost exclusively. If you do >>>> switch, make sure to either set up bootcamp or a virtual machine so you >>>> can run Windows, because I can pretty much promise >>>> that you will still be using Windows for a while after you start playing >>>> with the mac. Sorry to be so negative, but that's my >>>> experience so far. >>>> >>>> On 1/3/12, Red.Falcon <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi Chuck! >>>>> Although I do not use windows and never have! >>>>> I have seen posts about the zoom and one thing the Mac cannot do is >>>>> change colours! >>>>> So its black on white or vice vursor! >>>>> hth Colin >>>>> >>>>> On 4 Jan 2012, at 00:05, Chuck wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>> I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC. >>>>>> I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs. >>>>>> I am currently using a PC with Windows 7 and zoom text as my >>>>>> magnification and reading software. >>>>>> I would like to hear from those of you who have made the switch. >>>>>> What pitfalls should I look for? Are there any trade-offs? >>>>>> In your opinion after making the switch which is the better system? >>>>>> Why? >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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