lol, short coming? It was only a short coming as of what, 2 months ago? It is a nice feature but I wouldn't call the lack of it a short coming. JMO.
Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jan 4, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > I feel it is only fair to mention that jaws13 and the development versions of > nvda both include OCR, so a scanned image can be read for the most part. VO > does not have this feature, and I think it would be a good idea for those who > would find it useful to email accessibil...@apple.com to point out this > shortcoming. > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from my iPod) > mehg...@gmail.com; //facebook.com/mehgcap > > On Jan 4, 2012, at 19:57, Joanne Chua <shuang.an...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> As a newish user of mac, and someone who rely heavily on PDFs for >> research and work purposes, i haven't come across any pdf issue. i >> suppose something we need to understand, the issue is not with >> screenreader itself, is with the image of the pdf itself. If you have >> a scann image pdf file, regardless you use jaws, windoweyes, nvda, >> system access or voiceover, unless you have an OCR, otherwise the >> problem will still exist. However, i must say, from my pass months >> experience, voiceover and include the IOS Voiceover, seems to be the >> best screen reader when dealing with pdf. >> It is not fair to compare Jaws or NVDA with Voiceover. you are kind of >> comparing orrange and lemon, deciding what is better for you. >> Regardless of what the arguements are, Jaws does slow things down >> rapitly. You won't realize until you have a sighted person uses the >> same computer as you do, turn your screenreader off, and have a go on >> that. Even in some case, NVDA is more faster and supirial compare to >> jaws. >> Same with any other screen reader, it does slow things down, just >> depends on if its in 0.001 second for voiceover or 1.00 second for >> jaws. >> >> Just my 0.2 sense of thoughts >> >> Cheers >> Joanne >> >> On 05/01/2012, matthew Dyer <matthewd...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have been using my mac mini full time for quite some time now and I fimnd >>> it to be useful for what I do even though there times I still wish I had a >>> pc for things like sauving captches in firefox since ff is not accessible on >>> the mac and never will be I gather. I am still try to get dropbox to work >>> on this machine here and have not been secessful so far. it would also be >>> nice to have a pc around for playing around with vinux, but that is a small >>> thing since i can not afford vmware fusion at the moment. Just my >>> thoughts. >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: >>> >>>> Very well said. I've had my mac since may, and although I've recently >>>> become far more fond of Itunes than my bank account is >>>> comfortable with, I just don't use it for daily tasks. I just can't get >>>> comfortable with any of the word processing options, >>>> and since I've been using a PC for close to 25 years, I'm always going to >>>> be more comfortable on a windows platform. One of >>>> my favorite activities, especially while I'm unemployed, is playing games, >>>> and while I'm thrilled that the RS games client >>>> works on the mac, there aren't any other options. I'm still hoping for a >>>> truly accessible mud client; if atlantis is >>>> accessible, I sure haven't figured out how to make it speak automatically. >>>> My other major task is writing/editing a story I've been working on for >>>> several years now. I just can't get comfortable >>>> working on my files using the mac, so just keep using good old wordpad on >>>> the PC. >>>> Since it cost me so much money, I have chosen to use the mac for things >>>> that either don't work or I don't want to mess with >>>> on my PC: adium, skype, itunes, and a couple of other similar things that >>>> I can't remember at the moment. I figure that the >>>> mac is a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong, and that's definitely >>>> something I'll give Apple credit for; you can >>>> install the operating system without any sighted assistance, and with >>>> carbon copy cloner and time machine, it's easy to >>>> restore your machine on the off chance that something catastrophic >>>> happens. Another thing that I really love about the mac is >>>> Growl. It essensially reads things that happen in the system tray: changes >>>> in dropbox files for example. That's 1 thing my PC >>>> can't do, or if it can, I don't know how to set it up, so the mac is >>>> really awesome in that respect. >>>> With all that being said, however, while I certainly like my mac a lot >>>> more than I did when I first bought it, to be >>>> perfectly honest, there's still a rather big part of me that regrets the >>>> purchase. I eventually hope to get bootcamp and/or >>>> VM fusion up and running, but so far, that just hasn't happened. >>>> I hope this makes at least a little sense and that it helps you in your >>>> decision. Sadly, I can't comment on the large print >>>> side of things, but I've become moderately comfortable with using >>>> Voiceover. Good luck in whatever decision you make, and I >>>> hope this helps you out at least a little. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:01 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac from PC >>>> >>>> I got a Mini after hearing nothing but great things about the Mac and >>>> VoiceOver. I can honestly say that I regret the >>>> decision. I never understood editing, my system seemed sluggish compared >>>> to NVDA with Windows, and web browsing is slow on >>>> the Mac when using vo. Also, a lot of what I do on the pc is audio gaming, >>>> and not so much as a good, accessible version of >>>> Solitaire is available on the Mac, let alone shooting, strategy, or other >>>> intensively audio games. >>>> I am still willing to admit that a good, long skype session with someone >>>> who is an experienced Mac user may help me, but as >>>> of right now I almost never boot into Mac, using the Windows half of my >>>> dual-booting mini almost exclusively. If you do >>>> switch, make sure to either set up bootcamp or a virtual machine so you >>>> can run Windows, because I can pretty much promise >>>> that you will still be using Windows for a while after you start playing >>>> with the mac. Sorry to be so negative, but that's my >>>> experience so far. >>>> >>>> On 1/3/12, Red.Falcon <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi Chuck! >>>>> Although I do not use windows and never have! >>>>> I have seen posts about the zoom and one thing the Mac cannot do is >>>>> change colours! >>>>> So its black on white or vice vursor! >>>>> hth Colin >>>>> >>>>> On 4 Jan 2012, at 00:05, Chuck wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>> I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC. >>>>>> I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs. >>>>>> I am currently using a PC with Windows 7 and zoom text as my >>>>>> magnification and reading software. >>>>>> I would like to hear from those of you who have made the switch. >>>>>> What pitfalls should I look for? Are there any trade-offs? >>>>>> In your opinion after making the switch which is the better system? >>>>>> Why? >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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