All i can say here is "it's not about the tool, but the man"
On 8/01/2012, at 7:46 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Fire fox? thats not even accessible with voiceover. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jan 5, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Luca wrote: > >> I am using a mac since late 2010 and frankly have to say that i am >> not going to switch to a mac with vo, too many bugs and things that >> you cannot simply do with vo: advanced word processing, terrible >> braille support, tinefficient web browsing (many sites simply dont >> work with vo, and what about that busy bug in firefox? its making me >> crazy), lots of bugs in non english standard voices, inability to >> read the status bar in the main menu, and others. >> Tell me some things that you cant do in windows an can do with vo in >> mac.. i i cant find any... >> Mr. L. Alexander ha scritto: >>> amen. >>> >>> I fully agree. >>> >>> the trick of IT is getting the balance right. There are things windows can >>> do that mac does differently and things that windows can't offer directly >>> that mac does. each screen reader offers different levels of support and >>> interoperability between OS and applications. >>> >>> For me, I've worked between windows, Mac OSS both old and X versions and >>> linux. each OS and screen reader can offer different functionality. each >>> has their strengths and weaknesses. Though I firmly stick to my mac and >>> voiceover, I still have to work on occasions with windows. now more than >>> ever with the use of adaptive hardware for system repairs and testing. >>> >>> so it's back to either jaws or window eyes or something like that to do >>> what I need to do on a windows notebook. >>> >>> lol >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 5 Jan 2012, at 15:29, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> >>>> I think its great that we can talk about our choices without getting hung >>>> about who uses what. May this list continue in this spirit as in the past >>>> we have weathered a number of conflicts. May be the list is maturing >>>> which is very good to see. >>>> >>>> Kawal. >>>> >>>> On 5 Jan 2012, at 02:00 PM, Garth Humphreys <ghu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I also use Zoomtext on my work PC. I have had my MBA for the past few >>>>> months. In a lot of ways I love the machine however I also have had some >>>>> issues. >>>>> >>>>> Firstly, how much zoom do you use? I will regularly jump up to around 30 >>>>> times depending upon what I am doing. The max zoom on the Mac currently >>>>> is 20 times. Add to this the minimal colour options. Normal or reverse >>>>> video, no brightness inversion or other more advance colour management in >>>>> the zoom option. I should say that there is also contrast control. >>>>> >>>>> I have also come across an extremely annoying bug when using VO with >>>>> Zoom. You can't navigate the menu bar properly with the keyboard. It can >>>>> be done with the track pad or by turning down the zoom level though. >>>>> There are also a couple of keyboard shortcut conflicts between zoom and >>>>> VO. . >>>>> >>>>> I have basically given up on using the Zoom component on the Mac. I will >>>>> qualify this a bit as not to mislead. I didn't plan on using zoom that >>>>> much and so bought an 11inch rather than the 13inch MBA. However I did >>>>> get a connector to hook it up to my 32 inch TV and have probably only >>>>> done this once or twice. >>>>> >>>>> You can tell by the fact that I often use the zoom at 30 times that my >>>>> vision is on the low side of usable :) I am using JAWS with Zoomtext on >>>>> the PC. I also have MAGic but prefer Zoomtext. I haven't had the >>>>> stability issues you describe with Zoomtext. >>>>> >>>>> The thing I most love about my mac is the physical hardware it's self. I >>>>> would often prefer to browse the web on my iPad. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck with your choice. >>>>> >>>>> Garth >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 04/01/2012, at 10:05 AM, Chuck wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>> I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC. >>>>>> I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs. >>>>>> I am currently using a PC with Windows 7 and zoom text as my >>>>>> magnification and reading software. >>>>>> I would like to hear from those of you who have made the switch. >>>>>> What pitfalls should I look for? Are there any trade-offs? >>>>>> In your opinion after making the switch which is the better system? >>>>>> Why? >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> Mr. L. 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