Hey Ricardo, Haven't played with it in Safari yet. I can see where it might make more sense there. Best, Donna
On Jul 11, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > One has little to do with the other. on an iPhone, the entire OS is > optimized to be run via gesture input. Not so for snow leopard. Yes there > are some similarities but the overall experience is much different. At least > in my opinion Trackpad commander can be very helpful but you need to choose > your spots with it just like any tool. We don't use chainsaws to slice bread > right? lol. For example, I think the trackpad commander shines when using > it on the web. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > > > On Jul 11, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Christopher Peppel wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> I bought a magic trackpad when they first came out. Maybe I have a learning >> disability, but it seems to be more trouble then it is worth. Maybe that >> will change in Lion, but for now, it just sits on my bottom shelf. This is >> why I am still debating getting an Iphone in December. >> >> Chris >> On Jul 11, 2011, at 1:51 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Hi Donna: >>> Well, I had been using the trackpad with some success, particularly for >>> continuous read text. I have had success previously working with mail in >>> the past. But, I just tried to reply to your post using the trackpad to get >>> in place to type, and got all of nowhere. I can interact with scroll area >>> to read from the top of a message, but trying to double-tap on "reply to" >>> gets me nowhere. Also, I typically interact with my messages list to move >>> down subject lines, and enter on anything I want to read But, on the >>> trackpad, I had to stop interacting with messages just to select yours to >>> try to work with. Either some things are broken/changed, or I need a quick >>> refresher course. I'm guessing it's the latter. But, now you've got me >>> curious. I'll let you know what I find. >>> >>> Carolyn >>> On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jim, Colin, and all, >>>> >>>> Not sure why, but this isn't working for me. In fact, I'm having abysmal >>>> results with the trackpad commander as a whole. Does anyone seriously use >>>> this thing? The only column I can get it to read in mail is the mailbox >>>> column, despite swiping left and right and having it tell me I've moved to >>>> a different column. Moreover, the text that is spoken when I try and >>>> navigate with Trackpad Commander isn't the same as that which is spoken >>>> when I use the arrow keys. I've tried all this while interacting and not >>>> interacting. If anyone is really using the Trackpad commander, I'd >>>> appreciate any pointers. I've used an iphone since the 3gs was released >>>> in 2009, so I'm really surprised by this. >>>> Best, >>>> Donna >>>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Jim Fettgather wrote: >>>> >>>>> According to keyboard help, you are supposed to be able to hold down the >>>>> the control key and tap to jump linked item, such as moving from the >>>>> messages table in mail to the text. >>>>> >>>>> I can get this to accknowledge this gesture in keyboard help, but for >>>>> some reason, I cannot get it to work in the mail program. >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Esther, >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks for this info. I knew that there are some gestures that are >>>>>> different from or not present on the iPhone, so I'm sure I'll find the >>>>>> help section very useful. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm really surprised that there isn't a way to open an email message >>>>>> using the trackpad. that seems like a major oversight, particularly >>>>>> given that this obviously works on the iPhone. It's interesting, too, >>>>>> because doubletapping does work for opening an app. But, at least I >>>>>> know I wasn't missing something, either in regards to this or having all >>>>>> columns of the messages table read (another major oversight imho) >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Esther wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. There's a section in the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide (Chapter 11 >>>>>>> on Using VoiceOver Gestures) that describes using TrackPad Commander. >>>>>>> Use VO-H to bring up the help menu and press "g" to go to the "Getting >>>>>>> Started Guide" and return. Open the web item rotor with VO-U and press >>>>>>> "g e s" to get the two relevant sections (Chapter 11 and Appendix A >>>>>>> listing the Commands and Gestures). If you want the list of standard >>>>>>> gestures, go directly to Appendix A and navigate to the section on >>>>>>> "VoiceOver standard gestures". (I'd use VO-U for the web rotor and >>>>>>> press "s t".) A lot of these will be familiar to you from using the >>>>>>> iPhone, but there are some other ones like going to the dock or menu >>>>>>> bar (two finger double tap near bottom or top of trackpad), or opening >>>>>>> the application or window chooser menus (two finger double tap along >>>>>>> left or right sides of the trackpad), and changing how VoiceOver reads >>>>>>> text (word, line, sentence, paragraph) by pressing the Command key >>>>>>> while your finger touches the trackpad, that are different. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. I don't know of a way to get all the columns in the messages table >>>>>>> announced at once with TrackPad commander. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. I press return to open a message in mail >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm probably not the best person to answer your questions. Maybe >>>>>>> somebody else can give you better answers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Esther >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 07:18, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've finally decided to spend some time messing with the trackpad >>>>>>>> commander, and have a couple of questions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. Is there any way to view a list of commands? when I go into the >>>>>>>> assign Commands table I can see the gestures, but none of the commands >>>>>>>> are displayed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. How do I navigate in Mail? Single-finger flicking takes me out of >>>>>>>> the messages table unless I interact, and if I interact, VO only reads >>>>>>>> the column that I'm on. I'd like to be able to hear all columns like >>>>>>>> I do when not using the trackpad commander. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3. How do I open a message in mail? I would have thought you would >>>>>>>> do this with a double-tap like on the iPhone, but that isn't working. >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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