Hi Donna: Well, I had been using the trackpad with some success, particularly for continuous read text. I have had success previously working with mail in the past. But, I just tried to reply to your post using the trackpad to get in place to type, and got all of nowhere. I can interact with scroll area to read from the top of a message, but trying to double-tap on "reply to" gets me nowhere. Also, I typically interact with my messages list to move down subject lines, and enter on anything I want to read But, on the trackpad, I had to stop interacting with messages just to select yours to try to work with. Either some things are broken/changed, or I need a quick refresher course. I'm guessing it's the latter. But, now you've got me curious. I'll let you know what I find.
Carolyn On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Jim, Colin, and all, > > Not sure why, but this isn't working for me. In fact, I'm having abysmal > results with the trackpad commander as a whole. Does anyone seriously use > this thing? The only column I can get it to read in mail is the mailbox > column, despite swiping left and right and having it tell me I've moved to a > different column. Moreover, the text that is spoken when I try and navigate > with Trackpad Commander isn't the same as that which is spoken when I use the > arrow keys. I've tried all this while interacting and not interacting. If > anyone is really using the Trackpad commander, I'd appreciate any pointers. > I've used an iphone since the 3gs was released in 2009, so I'm really > surprised by this. > Best, > Donna > On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Jim Fettgather wrote: > >> According to keyboard help, you are supposed to be able to hold down the the >> control key and tap to jump to a linked item, such as moving from the >> messages table in mail to the text. >> >> I can get this to accknowledge this gesture in keyboard help, but for some >> reason, I cannot get it to work in the mail program. >> Thanks >> >> >> >> On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi Esther, >>> >>> thanks for this info. I knew that there are some gestures that are >>> different from or not present on the iPhone, so I'm sure I'll find the help >>> section very useful. >>> >>> I'm really surprised that there isn't a way to open an email message using >>> the trackpad. that seems like a major oversight, particularly given that >>> this obviously works on the iPhone. It's interesting, too, because >>> doubletapping does work for opening an app. But, at least I know I wasn't >>> missing something, either in regards to this or having all columns of the >>> messages table read (another major oversight imho) >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Donna, >>>> >>>> 1. There's a section in the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide (Chapter 11 on >>>> Using VoiceOver Gestures) that describes using TrackPad Commander. Use >>>> VO-H to bring up the help menu and press "g" to go to the "Getting Started >>>> Guide" and return. Open the web item rotor with VO-U and press "g e s" to >>>> get the two relevant sections (Chapter 11 and Appendix A listing the >>>> Commands and Gestures). If you want the list of standard gestures, go >>>> directly to Appendix A and navigate to the section on "VoiceOver standard >>>> gestures". (I'd use VO-U for the web rotor and press "s t".) A lot of >>>> these will be familiar to you from using the iPhone, but there are some >>>> other ones like going to the dock or menu bar (two finger double tap near >>>> bottom or top of trackpad), or opening the application or window chooser >>>> menus (two finger double tap along left or right sides of the trackpad), >>>> and changing how VoiceOver reads text (word, line, sentence, paragraph) by >>>> pressing the Command key while your finger touches the trackpad, that are >>>> different. >>>> >>>> 2. I don't know of a way to get all the columns in the messages table >>>> announced at once with TrackPad commander. >>>> >>>> 3. I press return to open a message in mail >>>> >>>> I'm probably not the best person to answer your questions. Maybe somebody >>>> else can give you better answers. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 07:18, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I've finally decided to spend some time messing with the trackpad >>>>> commander, and have a couple of questions. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Is there any way to view a list of commands? when I go into the >>>>> assign Commands table I can see the gestures, but none of the commands >>>>> are displayed. >>>>> >>>>> 2. How do I navigate in Mail? Single-finger flicking takes me out of >>>>> the messages table unless I interact, and if I interact, VO only reads >>>>> the column that I'm on. I'd like to be able to hear all columns like I >>>>> do when not using the trackpad commander. >>>>> >>>>> 3. How do I open a message in mail? 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