Hi Jim, Colin, and all, Not sure why, but this isn't working for me. In fact, I'm having abysmal results with the trackpad commander as a whole. Does anyone seriously use this thing? The only column I can get it to read in mail is the mailbox column, despite swiping left and right and having it tell me I've moved to a different column. Moreover, the text that is spoken when I try and navigate with Trackpad Commander isn't the same as that which is spoken when I use the arrow keys. I've tried all this while interacting and not interacting. If anyone is really using the Trackpad commander, I'd appreciate any pointers. I've used an iphone since the 3gs was released in 2009, so I'm really surprised by this. Best, Donna On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Jim Fettgather wrote:
> According to keyboard help, you are supposed to be able to hold down the the > control key and tap to jump to a linked item, such as moving from the > messages table in mail to the text. > > I can get this to accknowledge this gesture in keyboard help, but for some > reason, I cannot get it to work in the mail program. > Thanks > > > > On Jul 10, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Esther, >> >> thanks for this info. I knew that there are some gestures that are >> different from or not present on the iPhone, so I'm sure I'll find the help >> section very useful. >> >> I'm really surprised that there isn't a way to open an email message using >> the trackpad. that seems like a major oversight, particularly given that >> this obviously works on the iPhone. It's interesting, too, because >> doubletapping does work for opening an app. But, at least I know I wasn't >> missing something, either in regards to this or having all columns of the >> messages table read (another major oversight imho) >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> On Jul 9, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Donna, >>> >>> 1. There's a section in the VoiceOver Getting Started Guide (Chapter 11 on >>> Using VoiceOver Gestures) that describes using TrackPad Commander. Use VO-H >>> to bring up the help menu and press "g" to go to the "Getting Started >>> Guide" and return. Open the web item rotor with VO-U and press "g e s" to >>> get the two relevant sections (Chapter 11 and Appendix A listing the >>> Commands and Gestures). If you want the list of standard gestures, go >>> directly to Appendix A and navigate to the section on "VoiceOver standard >>> gestures". (I'd use VO-U for the web rotor and press "s t".) A lot of >>> these will be familiar to you from using the iPhone, but there are some >>> other ones like going to the dock or menu bar (two finger double tap near >>> bottom or top of trackpad), or opening the application or window chooser >>> menus (two finger double tap along left or right sides of the trackpad), >>> and changing how VoiceOver reads text (word, line, sentence, paragraph) by >>> pressing the Command key while your finger touches the trackpad, that are >>> different. >>> >>> 2. I don't know of a way to get all the columns in the messages table >>> announced at once with TrackPad commander. >>> >>> 3. I press return to open a message in mail >>> >>> I'm probably not the best person to answer your questions. Maybe somebody >>> else can give you better answers. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 07:18, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I've finally decided to spend some time messing with the trackpad >>>> commander, and have a couple of questions. >>>> >>>> 1. Is there any way to view a list of commands? when I go into the >>>> assign Commands table I can see the gestures, but none of the commands are >>>> displayed. >>>> >>>> 2. How do I navigate in Mail? Single-finger flicking takes me out of the >>>> messages table unless I interact, and if I interact, VO only reads the >>>> column that I'm on. I'd like to be able to hear all columns like I do >>>> when not using the trackpad commander. >>>> >>>> 3. How do I open a message in mail? I would have thought you would do >>>> this with a double-tap like on the iPhone, but that isn't working. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
