Nope, I don't have any of the three fun gadgets. :) Teresa
On May 3, 9:35 am, Darcy Burnard <darcyburn...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Teresa. Do you have an iphone or iPod touch? If so, you might check out > the Joost app. It's completely accessible, though it does drain the battery > quite quickly. Probably no more than any other video app though. > Darcy > > On 2010-05-03, at 11:43 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > > > > > I have mixed feelings about the whole debate. I will miss the sonokids > > games and the Houghton-Mifflin geography game and the Curb game. I > > sort of liked it when Joost switched to flash, because their stand- > > alone app was even less accessible. However, it will be interesting to > > see what comes of HTML5. > > > Teresa > > > On May 3, 7:50 am, "Carolyn" <ch...@q.com> wrote: > >> Nic: > >> bring on the coffee here please. There's eleven! > >> Carolyn > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Nicolai Svendsen > >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 3:32 AM > >> Subject: Re: Flash removed from OS X? > > >> Hey, > > >> Certainly. I've never seen so many messages hit the list that quickly. I > >> was sitting here going "No one has responded yet." I go to brew a load of > >> coffee, and when I come back I've got ten messages. I was a bit surprised. > > >> Regards, > >> Nic > >> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > >> Skype: Kvalme > >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > >> AIM: cincinster > >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 > >> Facebook Profile > >> My Twitter > > >> On May 3, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > > >> > Nic, > > >> > It is a good discussion for debate. What it does is give folks an > >> opportunity to consider the benefits or lack there of where flash is > >> concerned. It also is a chance to consider whether Adobe would seriously > >> have a legal case. because there had been if I recall some threat made > >> over preventing flash on the iPhone. I recall something about lost revenue > >> or some such thing, but don't quote me on that. The entire discussion is > >> interesting for sure. > > >> > On May 3, 2010, at 1:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > >> >> Hi, > > >> >> *grins* Darcy my secret is out! > > >> >> Yes, it's not true. Maybe. What is echoed in that "Fake Steve Jobs" > >> post might happen someday, but I don't think Apple can actually force > >> Flash out of Mac OS X. > > >> >> Well, it's not, since you can actually find this on Google quite > >> easily. Nonetheless, it was a very amusing read. It gave me the > >> opportunity to bring it up as a debate, actually, and it's very > >> interesting to hear people's thoughts, I'd say. > > >> >> Regards, > >> >> Nic > >> >> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > >> >> Skype: Kvalme > >> >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > >> >> AIM: cincinster > >> >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 > >> >> Facebook Profile > >> >> My Twitter > > >> >> On May 3, 2010, at 3:41 AM, Darcy Burnard wrote: > > >> >>> Hi. Being annoyed by flash is definitely not exclusively a blind > >> thing. If it were, things like the click to flash plugin would not exist. > >> > >> >>> Darcy > > >> >>> On 2010-05-02, at 8:01 PM, marie Howarth wrote: > > >> >>>> the truth of it only being the VI community is not exactly true. I > >> have friends who are in web design and they cannot stand flash. Several of > >> them are very happy with the now viable alternatives. flash makes it > >> "easy" for pretty much any one without much knowledge of writing code to > >> create a website, it also makes a lot of websites act eratically, and most > >> web designers, who do their jobs professionally will tell you the world > >> would be much better without flash clogging up websites. So sighted or > >> not, it's not just those of us who can't utilise the flash content, > >> professionals who design websites dislike it even more. > > >> >>>> On 3 May 2010, at 00:08, Pete Nalda wrote: > > >> >>>>> Haha! Yes, good debate for sure. I actually googled "Flash Being > >> removed from os X" and did come up with a "fake Steve Jobs Diary" tweet > >> report on techblips.com. But no reference as to whether this was really > >> true. I think it's a great debate, and something I think few people are > >> willing to debate, preferring to sweep it under the table. Flash makes > >> designing websites with lots of dazzle fairly easy, but I think the > >> Visually Impaired community are the only ones who hate flash the most > >> because of its' inaccessibility to screenreaders. > > >> >>>>> On May 2, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > >> >>>>>> Hi, > > >> >>>>>> Hey, I guess that just answered my question. It might just be > >> replaced soon, though. Flash is getting old now, and we need a standard > >> that is just implemented, doesn't require any third-party plugins to work > >> like Flash essentially is, and doesn't crash your shit. That doesn't mean > >> HTML5 can't, but at least, we can see what is actually on HTML5 pages and > >> for good reason. > > >> >>>>>> I just love starting these debates. Oops? > > >> >>>>>> Regards, > >> >>>>>> Nic > >> >>>>>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > >> >>>>>> Skype: Kvalme > >> >>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > >> >>>>>> AIM: cincinster > >> >>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 > >> >>>>>> Facebook Profile > >> >>>>>> My Twitter > > >> >>>>>> On May 2, 2010, at 11:24 PM, marie Howarth wrote: > > >> >>>>>>> how are you accessing them anyway sarah? Flash content is not > >> visible with VO > > >> >>>>>>> On 2 May 2010, at 22:19, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>> but how would twaudio work wiht out flash? you need to hit > >> recording buttons in order to use it if you wanted to record directly from > >> the website. > >> >>>>>>>> On May 2, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>> Hello, any platform could be argued to be better without > >> flash, it's a processor pig, is proprietary, and isn't keeping up > >> according to the wisdom of today. From a vo user's point of view, and even > >> ask the linux-kids, windows is the only platform where it is marginally > >> accessible. Something like html5 and h.264 streamed videos would work any > >> and everywhere without a proprietary plug in or so I've been lead to > >> believe. > > >> >>>>>>>>> Just my thoughts. > >> >>>>>>>>> On 2010-05-02, at 5:00 PM, Edward wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Hello > >> >>>>>>>>>> I am new to the list and wondering why no flash is good news? > >> Is vo better > >> >>>>>>>>>> with other formats of streaming video? > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks > >> >>>>>>>>>> Edward > > >> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >> >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie > >> Howarth > >> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:55 PM > >> >>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Flash removed from OS X? > > >> >>>>>>>>>> really? Where did you hear such great news? ;) > > >> >>>>>>>>>> On 2 May 2010, at 21:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Whoa, that's like...allout. I'm not sure what to say. Did I > >> expect > >> >>>>>>>>>> this? No. > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Well, if no one figured this one out, Flash support is > >> apparently > >> >>>>>>>>>> being removed from OS X. I thought I'd be the first to post > >> this. I don't > >> >>>>>>>>>> think anyone else has. Same reasons that were made public in > >> Steve's letter > >> >>>>>>>>>> on thoughts on Flash. > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >> >>>>>>>>>> Nic > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > >> >>>>>>>>>> Skype: Kvalme > >> >>>>>>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > >> >>>>>>>>>> AIM: cincinster > >> >>>>>>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 > >> >>>>>>>>>> Facebook Profile > >> >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicolai-Svendsen/509197277> > >> >>>>>>>>>> My Twitter <http://twitter.com/chojiro> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >> Google > >> >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >> >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >> >>>>>>>>>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >> >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> >>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >> >>>>>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >> >>>>>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >> Google Groups > >> >>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >> >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> >>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >> >>>>>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >> >>>>>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >> >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >> >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >> >>>>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >> >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >> >>>>>>>> -- > >> >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >> >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> >>>>>>>> For more options, > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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