I do believe it is already turned off by default. You have to install the flash player in order for flash to work on the mac.
On 3 May 2010, at 03:15, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > If they did do this, a much better solution would be to have it off by > default but allow it to be turned on if you knew what you were doing. > > AT the end of the day, I don't like flash, html5 is great, I totally > agree. However, the fact of the matter is that despite what steve > says, lots and lots of sites still use flash. > Now, I'm all for imbraissing concepts of the future and I don't really > like clinging on to things that should have died there technical death > a long time ago, but if apple were to do this, there would be a huge > problem due to the number of sites that haven't adopted to html5. > > Osx users may well see themselves as people who are influencing the > future and yes, we all will be if apple stop flash. However, will that > soft & cuddley idealistic view be enough to carm you down when you > *really* need to use that site that runs on flash? Will you still be > happy with apple when you have to boot into windows just to see a > website? > > Don't get me wrong, I understand that the I devices should never run > flash - as others have said, it's a cpu hog - but on actual computers > it's a different matter. > Apple would still be able to influence the adoption of html5 by > consumers in a fairly big way if they were to turn flash off by > default since 90% of users wouldn't know how to turn it on and > afterall, if html5 adoption is as large as they claim, again, the > average user shouldn't notice a difference other than less cpu > hogging. > > I just red that back and it comes off as pretty anty apple. I'm not > about to replace all my pc's with macs, but I do congratulate apple > for everything that they do for us blind foke and that is why I own 6 > macs and 3 ipods. > > On 03/05/2010, Darcy Burnard <darcyburn...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> Hi. Being annoyed by flash is definitely not exclusively a blind thing. If >> it were, things like the click to flash plugin would not exist. >> Darcy >> >> On 2010-05-02, at 8:01 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >> >>> the truth of it only being the VI community is not exactly true. I have >>> friends who are in web design and they cannot stand flash. Several of them >>> are very happy with the now viable alternatives. flash makes it "easy" for >>> pretty much any one without much knowledge of writing code to create a >>> website, it also makes a lot of websites act eratically, and most web >>> designers, who do their jobs professionally will tell you the world would >>> be much better without flash clogging up websites. So sighted or not, it's >>> not just those of us who can't utilise the flash content, professionals >>> who design websites dislike it even more. >>> >>> On 3 May 2010, at 00:08, Pete Nalda wrote: >>> >>>> Haha! Yes, good debate for sure. I actually googled "Flash Being >>>> removed from os X" and did come up with a "fake Steve Jobs Diary" tweet >>>> report on techblips.com. But no reference as to whether this was really >>>> true. I think it's a great debate, and something I think few people are >>>> willing to debate, preferring to sweep it under the table. Flash makes >>>> designing websites with lots of dazzle fairly easy, but I think the >>>> Visually Impaired community are the only ones who hate flash the most >>>> because of its' inaccessibility to screenreaders. >>>> >>>> On May 2, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Hey, I guess that just answered my question. It might just be replaced >>>>> soon, though. Flash is getting old now, and we need a standard that is >>>>> just implemented, doesn't require any third-party plugins to work like >>>>> Flash essentially is, and doesn't crash your shit. That doesn't mean >>>>> HTML5 can't, but at least, we can see what is actually on HTML5 pages >>>>> and for good reason. >>>>> >>>>> I just love starting these debates. Oops? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Nic >>>>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>> My Twitter >>>>> >>>>> On May 2, 2010, at 11:24 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> how are you accessing them anyway sarah? Flash content is not visible >>>>>> with VO >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2 May 2010, at 22:19, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> but how would twaudio work wiht out flash? you need to hit recording >>>>>>> buttons in order to use it if you wanted to record directly from the >>>>>>> website. >>>>>>> On May 2, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, any platform could be argued to be better without flash, it's >>>>>>>> a processor pig, is proprietary, and isn't keeping up according to >>>>>>>> the wisdom of today. From a vo user's point of view, and even ask the >>>>>>>> linux-kids, windows is the only platform where it is marginally >>>>>>>> accessible. Something like html5 and h.264 streamed videos would work >>>>>>>> any and everywhere without a proprietary plug in or so I've been lead >>>>>>>> to believe. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just my thoughts. >>>>>>>> On 2010-05-02, at 5:00 PM, Edward wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello >>>>>>>>> I am new to the list and wondering why no flash is good news? Is vo >>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>> with other formats of streaming video? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> Edward >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:55 PM >>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Flash removed from OS X? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> really? Where did you hear such great news? ;) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2 May 2010, at 21:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Whoa, that's like...allout. I'm not sure what to say. Did I >>>>>>>>> expect >>>>>>>>> this? No. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, if no one figured this one out, Flash support is >>>>>>>>> apparently >>>>>>>>> being removed from OS X. I thought I'd be the first to post this. I >>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>> think anyone else has. 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