Hi, *grins* Pete is exactly right about this one. So I figured I'd be the one to bring it up.
I think we can expect to see it, though, perhaps. Who knows? I suppose that, in the end though, they might not be able to block it off completely. I think though, that due to the fact that more developers are using HTML5 and that it is actually usable on most, if not all devices, will attribute to the death of Flash eventually. I'm sure it took time for Flash to take over as well, and HTML5 is taking time, too. Just like Flash. Regardless if sighted people need it or not, I was never actually separating blind needs from the needs of sighted folks. This isn't only a screen reader issue. It's a resource problem. And a security risk. Like, a lot. And sure, HTML5 probably has that, too. But again, browsers support it from the start, making it a lot easier to use. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On May 3, 2010, at 1:25 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Ah no. I have friends who are sighted and develop web sites and web > applications and trust me they hate flash as well. > > On May 2, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > >> Haha! Yes, good debate for sure. I actually googled "Flash Being removed >> from os X" and did come up with a "fake Steve Jobs Diary" tweet report on >> techblips.com. But no reference as to whether this was really true. I >> think it's a great debate, and something I think few people are willing to >> debate, preferring to sweep it under the table. Flash makes designing >> websites with lots of dazzle fairly easy, but I think the Visually Impaired >> community are the only ones who hate flash the most because of its' >> inaccessibility to screenreaders. >> >> On May 2, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Hey, I guess that just answered my question. It might just be replaced >>> soon, though. Flash is getting old now, and we need a standard that is just >>> implemented, doesn't require any third-party plugins to work like Flash >>> essentially is, and doesn't crash your shit. That doesn't mean HTML5 can't, >>> but at least, we can see what is actually on HTML5 pages and for good >>> reason. >>> >>> I just love starting these debates. Oops? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On May 2, 2010, at 11:24 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>> >>>> how are you accessing them anyway sarah? Flash content is not visible with >>>> VO >>>> >>>> On 2 May 2010, at 22:19, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> but how would twaudio work wiht out flash? you need to hit recording >>>>> buttons in order to use it if you wanted to record directly from the >>>>> website. >>>>> On May 2, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, any platform could be argued to be better without flash, it's a >>>>>> processor pig, is proprietary, and isn't keeping up according to the >>>>>> wisdom of today. From a vo user's point of view, and even ask the >>>>>> linux-kids, windows is the only platform where it is marginally >>>>>> accessible. Something like html5 and h.264 streamed videos would work >>>>>> any and everywhere without a proprietary plug in or so I've been lead to >>>>>> believe. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just my thoughts. >>>>>> On 2010-05-02, at 5:00 PM, Edward wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello >>>>>>> I am new to the list and wondering why no flash is good news? Is vo >>>>>>> better >>>>>>> with other formats of streaming video? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> Edward >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:55 PM >>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Flash removed from OS X? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> really? Where did you hear such great news? ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2 May 2010, at 21:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Whoa, that's like...allout. I'm not sure what to say. Did I >>>>>>> expect >>>>>>> this? No. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, if no one figured this one out, Flash support is >>>>>>> apparently >>>>>>> being removed from OS X. I thought I'd be the first to post this. I >>>>>>> don't >>>>>>> think anyone else has. 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