On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 11:30:01AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > John> If Edit->Preferences was called something like Edit->Save > John> Preferences, but behaved similarly, it would want an ellipsis. > > OK, take a look at aqua UI guidelines. For example here > >http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/Essentials/AquaHIGuidelines/AHIGMenus/index.html
So, we have one guideline that explicitly goes against all the rest. > And concerning microsoft guidelines, did you ever take a look at ms > office, or explorer? They have ... everywhere I would expect them. I'm sure the MS guidelines say "don't crash" too. What on earth is your point ? > * An action that opens an informational, accessory, or tool > window. These windows can be implemented as either utility > windows (as in the case of a color palette) or modeless windows. > These windows provide tools that help create or manage the > content in the main window and are frequently left open to > assist in accomplishing the task of the main window. Examples > include Get Info and Show Tools. > > One could argue that what we have here are modeless windows, and thus > the last paragraph applies. But I have never seen you use this > argument, so you probably have something else in mind. Those Aqua guidelines draw a new distinction between document content and application content. I do not understand why they have done this, and they neglected to include a rationale. > The truth is, I think people are going to be confused by this > behaviour. And the point of interface guidelines is _not_ to confuse > people, even for the sake of correctness (which remains to be proved). Whatever .... Before I changed things at all we were ENTIRELY inconsistent within ourselves, and now suddenly everybody cares. I'm not going to take the ball home, but it's quite annoying. john -- "I will eat a rubber tire to the music of The Flight of the Bumblebee"