>>>>> "John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> If Edit->Preferences was called something like Edit->Save John> Preferences, but behaved similarly, it would want an ellipsis. OK, take a look at aqua UI guidelines. For example here http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/Essentials/AquaHIGuidelines/AHIGMenus/index.html Is that clear enough for you? Or maybe you want a screenshot? http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/Essentials/AquaHIGuidelines/AHIGMenus/index.html And concerning microsoft guidelines, did you ever take a look at ms office, or explorer? They have ... everywhere I would expect them. Of course, apple says: Don't use an ellipsis in the following cases: * An action that requires no further user input to complete and does not present an alert. Often the item to be acted upon is already selected. Examples include New, Cut, Bold, and Quit. * An action that opens an informational, accessory, or tool window. These windows can be implemented as either utility windows (as in the case of a color palette) or modeless windows. These windows provide tools that help create or manage the content in the main window and are frequently left open to assist in accomplishing the task of the main window. Examples include Get Info and Show Tools. One could argue that what we have here are modeless windows, and thus the last paragraph applies. But I have never seen you use this argument, so you probably have something else in mind. The truth is, I think people are going to be confused by this behaviour. And the point of interface guidelines is _not_ to confuse people, even for the sake of correctness (which remains to be proved). JMarc
