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so if sending a player off will unbalance a game, I presume this is
valid for all games as we discuss principles, when would it suit you
to send a player off? sounds like never to me.

I think I made it perfectly clear that in my view sending off should revert back to happening only as a last resort. Why do you have to distort that ? For example if Lehman had in fact prevented Barca from putting the ball in the net then he should have been sent off because he almost certainly prevented a goal from being scored. That is the intent of the law. There is no hurry and the ref can very easily wait to see what happens. The ref disallowing the goal and sending the keeper off is a gross distortion of this intention. It isn't necessary and it punishes the innocent team and spoils the game for no purpose.

you seem to forget you have the leisure to both have more time than
the ref and also time to reflect in retrospect. you dont think those are two imporant factors?

Very much so. The ref was far too hasty and in his haste he ballsed it up.
He has just about admitted it himself. That is exactly what I mean. We have lost the plot in that the FIRST reaction is to send a player off. It shouldn't be that way.

I reckon the ref. could have done better yesterday, yes he could. but
at the same time I dont think he did anything wrong. that sums it up
to me.

So at least you agree that he could have done better. Would that have involved allowing the goal and not sending Lehman off ? Would that have been him doing better ? If not, then what ?

what he could have done better and all that is irrelevant to me as
long as he didnt commit any outright errors.

Strange argument. I prefer a ref to do the best he can whenever he can. Of course refs will make mistakes which is why I am arguing for a change of emphasis so that the immediate reaction is NOT to send a player off. Last resort, NOT first resort - for the good of the game overall. It might also stop the sight of players trying to get others sent off.




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