On 5/18/06, Scratchinshed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>so if sending a player off will unbalance a game, I presume this is
valid for all games as we discuss principles, when would it suit you
to send a player off? sounds like never to me.
I think I made it perfectly clear that in my view sending off should revert
back to happening only as a last resort. Why do you have to distort that ?
For example if Lehman had in fact prevented Barca from putting the ball in
the net then he should have been sent off because he almost certainly
prevented a goal from being scored. That is the intent of the law. There is
no hurry and the ref can very easily wait to see what happens. The ref
disallowing the goal and sending the keeper off is a gross distortion of
this intention. It isn't necessary and it punishes the innocent team and
spoils the game for no purpose.
Im not distorting what your saying. sorry if you had that impression.
you re making a VERY important note here: referees are allowed to
wait and see what happens and then go "back" and hand out cards and so
forth. helas, this is not
being done.. its needs to be enforced.
>you seem to forget you have the leisure to both have more time than
the ref and also time to reflect in retrospect. you dont think those are two
imporant factors?
Very much so. The ref was far too hasty and in his haste he ballsed it up.
He has just about admitted it himself. That is exactly what I mean. We have
lost the plot in that the FIRST reaction is to send a player off. It shouldn't
be that way.
well he said so, so he agrees with you he was too hasty. im not the
one to argue on that
then :-) my points remain as they dont exclude each other
>I reckon the ref. could have done better yesterday, yes he could. but
at the same time I dont think he did anything wrong. that sums it up
to me.
So at least you agree that he could have done better. Would that have
involved allowing the goal and not sending Lehman off ? Would that have been
him doing better ? If not, then what ?
yes, I never said he didnt. I only said he didnt commit any errors. i
guess my main
point is that its easy to see things in retrospect and all that..
>what he could have done better and all that is irrelevant to me as
long as he didnt commit any outright errors.
Strange argument. I prefer a ref to do the best he can whenever he can. Of
course refs will make mistakes which is why I am arguing for a change of
emphasis so that the immediate reaction is NOT to send a player off. Last
resort, NOT first resort - for the good of the game overall. It might also
stop the sight of players trying to get others sent off.
strange indeed, and strange I am. however you said you prefer a ref.
to does the best he can. I think any ref does just that, but its human
to fail.
cheers,
Eric
well he did just that yesterday...
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