Paul wrote: "but I do not need certification of any kind. However, if I were hiring someone to configure my switch I might want them to be certified in the basics.".....Come on Paul would you want a company that was certified on the basics, Or a well rounded experienced certified company. Most customers out there want their switch configured to it's maximum potential and be trained on how to do this and how to do that, there are some customers who don't care what the system can do they just wanna pick up the phone and dial out To do the BASICS you do not have to be certified for, but if you want to take that customer to a higher level and solve, or implement a particular Application that the client has challenged you with......you better be certified. Ron
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul H. Gusciora Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:44 AM To: KX-T Help Subject: Re: RE: KX-T: Low Low Fraudulent Prices Certifications are neither necessary nor sufficient to assure a good installation or configuration. If I buy a Cisco (or other high-end) switch, used or new, I am free to configure or not any way I want. I might have to pay Cisco if I wanted the latest software image for the switch, but I do not need certification of any kind. However, if I were hiring someone to configure my switch I might want them to be certified in the basics. It is my responsibility to inform myself about the workings of the product so that I can assure that it is installed properly. If I screw things up (or my contractor does) it is my fault. No one blames Cisco for bad product. I have found that by the time I figure out what I need to know to ask for what I need, I have the knowledge to configure the thing myself. I think that most of this thread is about dealers railing about how to protect their monopoly access to the product, the configuration tool, and the software updates. Enjoy it while you have it. Asterisk and OpenPBX (and others) are coming. Paul H. Gusciora San Rafael, CA BTW: networking since 1982 (first DecNet, then others). _________________________________________________________________ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt _________________________________________________________________ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt