Denny,
Rudder control in my KR2S is not a wing leveler, it can make the result 
worse. I have tried rudder at cruise and it will control SMALL deflections 
in the wings but not fore long. I use ailerones to keep the wings level, 
dah.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Mingear" <dennisming...@yahoo.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: KR> The Stall


> Since I started this thread I guess I should clarify
> what I meant to say and what was clarified so
> concisely by another member of the list.
>
> I've been properly and politely reminded that
> maintaining coodination while in slow flight is what's
> really important, As was pointed out earlier by
> Collin(?, hope I got your name right), using aileron
> is ok as long as it is used smoothly, minimally and
> with some caution. However, Rapid full deflection
> deployment of ailerons while flying near the stalling
> point of the wing can excite the airflow over a
> wingtip in unexpected and surprisiing ways.
>
> I fly gliders and ailerons would be used very
> carefully   while flying near the giders stalling
> speed. I realize that a glider is not a KR and I've
> read enough of these e-mails over the years to know
> that sometimes a KR is not a KR, there are many
> variations on the basic theme.
>
> If you've followed me this far though I do have a
> question however;
>
> Is the rudder ever useful in keeping the wings level
> during slow flight in a KR?
>
> And if the answer is yes, If the rudder has lost its
> ability to keep the wings level, should that airspeed
> just above the loss of rudder be the minimum speed
> used during slowflight?
>
> Denny ...
>
> --- Al Friesen <nesei...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> Larry,
>> You have the control for the KR right, Rudder
>> control on its own is not
>> correct.   Al
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "larry flesner" <fles...@midwest.net>
>> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 3:48 PM
>> Subject: KR> The Stall
>>
>>
>> >
>> >>Thanks for the report, good reading, but please be
>> >>very careful when using aileron during your stall
>> >>tests. You don't want to seperate the airflow from
>> a
>> >>wingtip and initiate a soin, that would be
>> exciting.
>> >>Denny ...
>> >
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >
>> > My KR, which is built and rigged to plans except
>> for the 24"
>> > stretch, will not respond to raising a wing using
>> rudder.
>> > However, the ailerons are effective up to and
>> through the
>> > stall.  If I try to "rudder" a wing up it causes
>> the nose to
>> > pitch down from, I suspect, a partial blanking out
>> of the
>> > horz stab / elevator.  If I stay off the rudder it
>> will keep the
>> > ball centered on its own.  So, I just treat it
>> like it wants to
>> > be treated and we get along just fine.
>> >
>> > As always , your results may vary..........
>> >
>> > Larry Flesner
>> >
>> >
>> >
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