Yes Mark, this is your thread, I was only taking responsiblity for sending it off into uncharted airspace.
I have flown 172's, 152's and several glider tyoes, but no KR's, that's why I'm curious about their slow flight behavior, I'm in the learning/building mode. I'll be much more careful in the future when I'm commenting on someone elses flight experience. thanks ... Denny --- Mark Jones <flyk...@wi.rr.com> wrote: > I beg to differ...it was my report of my first stall > that started this > thread with your reply saying not to use aileron a > that could induce a spin. > In all of my flight training (I earned my ticket in > 1976), I was taught to > apply slight opposite aileron to wing drop after > some opposite rudder. I > have stalled hundreds of times and never had a > problem. Just curious Denny, > but have you ever flown in a KR or piloted one? I am > not asking that to be a > smart a&&, just wondering. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Mingear" <dennisming...@yahoo.com> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 5:02 PM > Subject: Re: KR> The Stall > > > > Since I started this thread I guess I should > clarify > > what I meant to say and what was clarified so > > concisely by another member of the list. > > > > I've been properly and politely reminded that > > maintaining coodination while in slow flight is > what's > > really important, As was pointed out earlier by > > Collin(?, hope I got your name right), using > aileron > > is ok as long as it is used smoothly, minimally > and > > with some caution. However, Rapid full deflection > > deployment of ailerons while flying near the > stalling > > point of the wing can excite the airflow over a > > wingtip in unexpected and surprisiing ways. > > > > I fly gliders and ailerons would be used very > > carefully while flying near the giders stalling > > speed. I realize that a glider is not a KR and > I've > > read enough of these e-mails over the years to > know > > that sometimes a KR is not a KR, there are many > > variations on the basic theme. > > > > If you've followed me this far though I do have a > > question however; > > > > Is the rudder ever useful in keeping the wings > level > > during slow flight in a KR? > > > > And if the answer is yes, If the rudder has lost > its > > ability to keep the wings level, should that > airspeed > > just above the loss of rudder be the minimum speed > > used during slowflight? > > > > Denny ... > > > > --- Al Friesen <nesei...@telus.net> wrote: > > > > > Larry, > > > You have the control for the KR right, Rudder > > > control on its own is not > > > correct. Al > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "larry flesner" <fles...@midwest.net> > > > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 3:48 PM > > > Subject: KR> The Stall > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Thanks for the report, good reading, but > please be > > > >>very careful when using aileron during your > stall > > > >>tests. You don't want to seperate the airflow > from > > > a > > > >>wingtip and initiate a soin, that would be > > > exciting. > > > >>Denny ... > > > > > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > > > My KR, which is built and rigged to plans > except > > > for the 24" > > > > stretch, will not respond to raising a wing > using > > > rudder. > > > > However, the ailerons are effective up to and > > > through the > > > > stall. If I try to "rudder" a wing up it > causes > > > the nose to > > > > pitch down from, I suspect, a partial blanking > out > > > of the > > > > horz stab / elevator. If I stay off the > rudder it > > > will keep the > > > > ball centered on its own. So, I just treat it > > > like it wants to > > > > be treated and we get along just fine. > > > > > > > > As always , your results may vary.......... > > > > > > > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > > > krnet-le...@mylist.net > > > > please see other KRnet info at > > > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.13/47 > - > > > Release Date: 7/12/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > > > krnet-le...@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at > > > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > "I can train a monkey to wave an American flag. > That does not make the > monkey patriotic." > > > > Scott Ritter > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? 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