I beg to differ...it was my report of my first stall that started this thread with your reply saying not to use aileron a that could induce a spin. In all of my flight training (I earned my ticket in 1976), I was taught to apply slight opposite aileron to wing drop after some opposite rudder. I have stalled hundreds of times and never had a problem. Just curious Denny, but have you ever flown in a KR or piloted one? I am not asking that to be a smart a&&, just wondering.
Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Mingear" <dennisming...@yahoo.com> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: Re: KR> The Stall > Since I started this thread I guess I should clarify > what I meant to say and what was clarified so > concisely by another member of the list. > > I've been properly and politely reminded that > maintaining coodination while in slow flight is what's > really important, As was pointed out earlier by > Collin(?, hope I got your name right), using aileron > is ok as long as it is used smoothly, minimally and > with some caution. However, Rapid full deflection > deployment of ailerons while flying near the stalling > point of the wing can excite the airflow over a > wingtip in unexpected and surprisiing ways. > > I fly gliders and ailerons would be used very > carefully while flying near the giders stalling > speed. I realize that a glider is not a KR and I've > read enough of these e-mails over the years to know > that sometimes a KR is not a KR, there are many > variations on the basic theme. > > If you've followed me this far though I do have a > question however; > > Is the rudder ever useful in keeping the wings level > during slow flight in a KR? > > And if the answer is yes, If the rudder has lost its > ability to keep the wings level, should that airspeed > just above the loss of rudder be the minimum speed > used during slowflight? > > Denny ... > > --- Al Friesen <nesei...@telus.net> wrote: > > > Larry, > > You have the control for the KR right, Rudder > > control on its own is not > > correct. Al > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "larry flesner" <fles...@midwest.net> > > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 3:48 PM > > Subject: KR> The Stall > > > > > > > > > >>Thanks for the report, good reading, but please be > > >>very careful when using aileron during your stall > > >>tests. You don't want to seperate the airflow from > > a > > >>wingtip and initiate a soin, that would be > > exciting. > > >>Denny ... > > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > My KR, which is built and rigged to plans except > > for the 24" > > > stretch, will not respond to raising a wing using > > rudder. > > > However, the ailerons are effective up to and > > through the > > > stall. If I try to "rudder" a wing up it causes > > the nose to > > > pitch down from, I suspect, a partial blanking out > > of the > > > horz stab / elevator. If I stay off the rudder it > > will keep the > > > ball centered on its own. So, I just treat it > > like it wants to > > > be treated and we get along just fine. > > > > > > As always , your results may vary.......... > > > > > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > > krnet-le...@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at > > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.13/47 - > > Release Date: 7/12/2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > > krnet-le...@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at > > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > "I can train a monkey to wave an American flag. That does not make the monkey patriotic." > > Scott Ritter > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
