Gee Al, be nice. I was talking about slow flight not cruise speeds. Denny ...
--- Al Friesen <nesei...@telus.net> wrote: > Denny, > Rudder control in my KR2S is not a wing leveler, it > can make the result > worse. I have tried rudder at cruise and it will > control SMALL deflections > in the wings but not fore long. I use ailerones to > keep the wings level, > dah. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Mingear" <dennisming...@yahoo.com> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:02 PM > Subject: Re: KR> The Stall > > > > Since I started this thread I guess I should > clarify > > what I meant to say and what was clarified so > > concisely by another member of the list. > > > > I've been properly and politely reminded that > > maintaining coodination while in slow flight is > what's > > really important, As was pointed out earlier by > > Collin(?, hope I got your name right), using > aileron > > is ok as long as it is used smoothly, minimally > and > > with some caution. However, Rapid full deflection > > deployment of ailerons while flying near the > stalling > > point of the wing can excite the airflow over a > > wingtip in unexpected and surprisiing ways. > > > > I fly gliders and ailerons would be used very > > carefully while flying near the giders stalling > > speed. I realize that a glider is not a KR and > I've > > read enough of these e-mails over the years to > know > > that sometimes a KR is not a KR, there are many > > variations on the basic theme. > > > > If you've followed me this far though I do have a > > question however; > > > > Is the rudder ever useful in keeping the wings > level > > during slow flight in a KR? > > > > And if the answer is yes, If the rudder has lost > its > > ability to keep the wings level, should that > airspeed > > just above the loss of rudder be the minimum speed > > used during slowflight? > > > > Denny ... > > > > --- Al Friesen <nesei...@telus.net> wrote: > > > >> Larry, > >> You have the control for the KR right, Rudder > >> control on its own is not > >> correct. Al > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "larry flesner" <fles...@midwest.net> > >> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> > >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 3:48 PM > >> Subject: KR> The Stall > >> > >> > >> > > >> >>Thanks for the report, good reading, but please > be > >> >>very careful when using aileron during your > stall > >> >>tests. You don't want to seperate the airflow > from > >> a > >> >>wingtip and initiate a soin, that would be > >> exciting. > >> >>Denny ... > >> > > >> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> > > >> > My KR, which is built and rigged to plans > except > >> for the 24" > >> > stretch, will not respond to raising a wing > using > >> rudder. > >> > However, the ailerons are effective up to and > >> through the > >> > stall. If I try to "rudder" a wing up it > causes > >> the nose to > >> > pitch down from, I suspect, a partial blanking > out > >> of the > >> > horz stab / elevator. If I stay off the rudder > it > >> will keep the > >> > ball centered on its own. So, I just treat it > >> like it wants to > >> > be treated and we get along just fine. > >> > > >> > As always , your results may vary.......... > >> > > >> > Larry Flesner > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________ > >> > Search the KRnet Archives at > >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >> > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > >> krnet-le...@mylist.net > >> > please see other KRnet info at > >> http://www.krnet.org/info.html > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >> > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.13/47 > - > >> Release Date: 7/12/2005 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> Search the KRnet Archives at > >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > >> krnet-le...@mylist.net > >> please see other KRnet info at > >> http://www.krnet.org/info.html > >> > > > > > > "I can train a monkey to wave an American flag. > That does not make the > > monkey patriotic." > > > > Scott Ritter > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? 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