Deirdre Saoirse wrote:

> (dunno if you noticed, btw, but the person I was responding to had a male
> name and I presumed the person was male, not female. I don't think, based
> on your reaction, that you were aware of this?)

I wasn't. Is it relevent to the issue?
 
> But, as you have taken issue with my presentation, I will say that three
> people in my life have in fact thanked me for being that harsh with them
> when they were pulling the downtrodden soul act.

When it's appropriate, it's a useful technique. :) 
 
> > Mind you, I don't feel that either gender is necessarily more
> > 'oppressed' than the other.
> 
> I agree and I think that is, ultimately, my point. We *see* the female
> side, being female. But the baggage of what men are "supposed to" do is
> equally odious and I was trying to bring that up (such as bringing up the
> issue of custody/child support).

Yeah. Dancer (my husband) once mentioned to me that he envies me the
hugs I get. I hadn't noticed.. but once he mentioned it, I noticed 
that friends who are equally friendly with both of us don't hug him...
... and that I don't hug or otherwise touch males as often as I do
females.

Unconscious, unaware sexism. Hmm.

> Hey, I'm a Klingon Diplomacy Academy graduate. It comes in more useful
> than you might think.

Heh. :)

I should use Klingon diplomacy more often than I do.



Jenn V.
-- 
       "Do you ever wonder if there's a whole section of geek culture 
                you miss out on by being a geek?" - Dancer.

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