and yes, David, that was it.  Probably for similar reasons, one transaction
was doubly entered, which caused the original discrepancy.  Somewherer
along the way, something else got wonky.  In the absence of a
reconciliation report (the bug issue still needs my attention), I manually
looked through the transactions and found the errors.

Now I am in bug report 799816 and it says... chconnor tried ...like, the
command "gnucash --debug --extra logto /tmp/gnucash.trace"
what does that do?  typing that into terminal didn't work.  I don't know
how to access flatpak sandbox.
i tried typing gnucash.trace into terminal, that didn't work either.  I am
frightfully ignorant about how to do Stuff.  I could look for a $  cat
 /tmp/gnucash.trace but didn't find it in the file folders....

searched for gnucash.trace in the help, no matching help pages found.

HMMM.  Please advise if you are so inclined...

Thanks!

j

On Thu, Oct 8, 2026 at 5:27 PM Julie G <[email protected]> wrote:

> ohhh, this is possibly really good.  I have been wondering about
> transactions which fall on the other side of a cutoff date or something.  i
> am chasing this down; one transaction did not get included in the .csv file
> I made that was included in the statement, but it does not resolve the
> issue, it simply alters it.  However, last month I DID reconcile
> successfully.  I also did look for the unreconciled transaction to show up
> in either the debit or credit panes to no avail yet.  But, it MUST be
> something like this.  I feel like such a detective.  Thank YOU for the
> clue/boost!
>
> Julie
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2026 at 12:54 AM David Cousens <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Julie,
>>
>> If a starting balance is off after a previous reconciliation being
>> correct a possible problem is a transaction having been entered with a
>> date in a previous period. This can occur with incorrect entry of a
>> year for example. An amount like $1.44  could be something like a bank
>> fee if there is no other transaction matching the amount. An
>> unreconciled transaction in a previous period  should show up in either
>> the debit or credit panes  at the top when you open the reconciliation
>> window.
>>
>> On Tue, 2026-10-06 at 23:51 -0700, Julie G wrote:
>> > Hey all,
>> >
>> > I am running version 5.17, flathub 5.17 on linux mint.
>> > It is perplexing to me that I balance each account every month and it
>> > all
>> > seems great.  A month goes by and when I go to do it again, it is
>> > always my
>> > fear that the starting balance will be off.  Why ever for would this
>> > be, if
>> > I reconciled to 0.00 the previous month?  What a horrible question.
>> > So
>> > let's try a better one...
>> >
>> > I try to investigate by doing the normal things; see if all the
>> > transactions were entered...  I missed one and added it.  But I was
>> > off $12
>> > and change, and the transaction that didn't make the cut (it was on
>> > the
>> > date cusp and was just missed) was for $11 and change.  Now I am off
>> > $1.44.  So I went to reports/reconciliation and the tab it brought up
>> > was
>> > empty.  next I looked around in the help and did not find anything.
>> > Next I
>> > started this email and while composing, I tried pulling up
>> > reports/reconciliation to accurately recount my steps.  The tab came
>> > up
>> > empty again, and the computer froze.  I had to alt+sysRq "REISUB" to
>> > jolt
>> > it out of the freeze; I don't know what else to do (which is maybe a
>> > different question).  Meanwhile, I don't know how to figure out why
>> > I'm
>> > $1.44 off because I don't know how to verify that my previous
>> > reconciliation is all correct.
>> > I will add, however, that until this point I had been MARVELING how
>> > much I
>> > LOVE gnucash (and I still do) and how EASY it has been to reconcie
>> > and how
>> > little time it takes me.  Wonderful when things just go right!  but
>> > with
>> > all good things, they don't always go that well.  The good news is,
>> > they go
>> > that well often enough that I'm SO happy I switched to Linux and to
>> > GNUCASH.  I hope it's a glitch and that it can be figured out!
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance; let me know if I am missing some info.
>> >
>> > Julie
>> > ps. Here's my system info:
>> > System:
>> >   Kernel: 7.0.0-38-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v:
>> > 13.3.0
>> > clocksource: tsc
>> >   Desktop: Cinnamon v: 6.4.14 tk: GTK v: 3.24.41 wm: Muffin v: 6.4.1
>> > vt: 7
>> > dm: LightDM v: 1.30.0
>> >     Distro: Linux Mint 22.2 Zara base: Ubuntu 24.04 noble
>> > Machine:
>> >   Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Inspiron 580 v: N/A serial:
>> > <superuser required> Chassis:
>> >     type: 3 serial: <superuser required>
>> >   Mobo: Dell model: 0C2KJT v: A00 serial: <superuser required> uuid:
>> > <superuser required>
>> >     BIOS: Dell v: A07 date: 11/13/2010
>> > CPU:
>> >   Info: dual core model: Intel Core i3 550 bits: 64 type: MT MCP smt:
>> > enabled arch: Westmere rev: 5
>> >     cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 4 MiB
>> >   Speed (MHz): avg: 1197 high: 1199 min/max: 1200/3200 cores: 1: 1197
>> > 2:
>> > 1198 3: 1199 4: 1197
>> >     bogomips: 25537
>> >   Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
>> > Graphics:
>> >   Device-1: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver:
>> > nouveau v: kernel arch: Tesla
>> >     pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DVI-I-1,VGA-1
>> > empty:
>> > HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 01:00.0
>> >     chip-ID: 10de:0a65 class-ID: 0300 temp: 40.0 C
>> >   Device-2: Logitech Webcam C260 driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo type:
>> > USB
>> > rev: 2.0
>> >     speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 1-1.1.2:5 chip-ID: 046d:081a
>> > class-ID:
>> > 0102 serial: <filter>
>> >   Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.6
>> > driver: X:
>> > loaded: modesetting
>> >     unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: nouveau gpu: nouveau display-ID: :0
>> > screens: 1
>> >   Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2720x1024 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 719x270mm
>> > (28.31x10.63")
>> > s-diag: 768mm (30.24")
>> >   Monitor-1: DVI-I-1 pos: primary,bottom-r model: ViewSonic VX1935wm
>> > serial: <filter>
>> >     res: 1440x900 hz: 60 dpi: 90 size: 408x255mm (16.06x10.04") diag:
>> > 481mm
>> > (18.9") modes:
>> >     max: 1440x900 min: 720x400
>> >   Monitor-2: VGA-1 pos: top-left model: Dell 1908FP serial: <filter>
>> > res:
>> > 1280x1024 hz: 60
>> >     dpi: 86 size: 376x301mm (14.8x11.85") diag: 482mm (19") modes:
>> > max:
>> > 1280x1024 min: 720x400
>> >   API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: nvidia nouveau platforms: device: 0 drv:
>> > nouveau
>> > device: 1 drv: swrast
>> >     gbm: drv: nouveau surfaceless: drv: nouveau x11: drv: nouveau
>> > inactive:
>> > wayland
>> >   API: OpenGL v: 4.5 compat-v: 3.3 vendor: mesa v: 25.2.8-
>> > 0ubuntu0.24.04.4
>> > glx-v: 1.4
>> >     direct-render: yes renderer: NVA8 device-ID: 10de:0a65
>> > Audio:
>> >   Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor:
>> > Dell 5
>> > driver: snd_hda_intel
>> >     v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3b56 class-ID: 0403
>> >   Device-2: NVIDIA High Definition Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI
>> > driver:
>> > snd_hda_intel v: kernel
>> >     pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID:
>> > 10de:0be3
>> > class-ID: 0403
>> >   Device-3: Logitech Webcam C260 driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo type:
>> > USB
>> > rev: 2.0
>> >     speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 1-1.1.2:5 chip-ID: 046d:081a
>> > class-ID:
>> > 0102 serial: <filter>
>> >   API: ALSA v: k7.0.0-38-generic status: kernel-api
>> >   Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.5 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
>> > status: active
>> >     2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
>> > Network:
>> >   Device-1: Broadcom NetLink BCM57788 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe vendor:
>> > Dell
>> > driver: tg3 v: kernel
>> >     pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: N/A bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID:
>> > 14e4:1691 class-ID: 0200
>> >   IF: enp3s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
>> > Drives:
>> >   Local Storage: total: 1.37 TiB used: 66.3 GiB (4.7%)
>> >   ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 500GB size:
>> > 465.76 GiB
>> > speed: 3.0 Gb/s
>> >     tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 4B6Q scheme: GPT
>> >   ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 1TB size: 931.51
>> > GiB
>> > speed: 3.0 Gb/s
>> >     tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 2B6Q scheme: GPT
>> >   ID-3: /dev/sdg model: Flash Drive SM USB20 size: 7.47 GiB type: USB
>> > rev:
>> > 2.0 spd: 480 Mb/s
>> >     lanes: 1 tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 1100 scheme: MBR
>> > Partition:
>> >   ID-1: / size: 456.88 GiB used: 66.28 GiB (14.5%) fs: ext4 dev:
>> > /dev/sda3
>> >   ID-2: /boot/efi size: 512 MiB used: 6.1 MiB (1.2%) fs: vfat dev:
>> > /dev/sda2
>> > Swap:
>> >   ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -1
>> > file:
>> > /swapfile
>> > USB:
>> >   Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 speed:
>> > 480
>> > Mb/s lanes: 1
>> >     chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
>> >   Hub-2: 1-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 6 rev:
>> > 2.0
>> > speed: 480 Mb/s
>> >     lanes: 1 chip-ID: 8087:0020 class-ID: 0900
>> >   Hub-3: 1-1.1:3 info: Microchip (formerly SMSC) Hub ports: 4 rev:
>> > 2.0
>> > speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1
>> >     power: 2mA chip-ID: 0424:2504 class-ID: 0900
>> >   Device-1: 1-1.1.2:5 info: Logitech Webcam C260 type: video,audio
>> > driver:
>> > snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
>> >     interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 power: 500mA
>> > chip-ID:
>> > 046d:081a class-ID: 0102
>> >     serial: <filter>
>> >   Hub-4: 1-1.3:4 info: Terminus Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
>> > lanes: 1 power: 100mA
>> >     chip-ID: 1a40:0101 class-ID: 0900
>> >   Device-1: 1-1.3.1:6 info: Dell QuietKey Keyboard type: keyboard
>> > driver:
>> > hid-generic,usbhid
>> >     interfaces: 1 rev: 1.1 speed: 1.5 Mb/s lanes: 1 power: 70mA chip-
>> > ID:
>> > 413c:2106 class-ID: 0301
>> >   Device-2: 1-1.3.2:7 info: Silicon Motion - Taiwan (formerly Feiya )
>> > Flash
>> > Drive
>> >     type: mass storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0
>> > speed:
>> > 480 Mb/s lanes: 1
>> >     power: 100mA chip-ID: 090c:1000 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
>> >   Device-3: 1-1.3.3:8 info: Primax HP Optical Mouse type: mouse
>> > driver:
>> > hid-generic,usbhid
>> >     interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 1.5 Mb/s lanes: 1 power: 98mA chip-
>> > ID:
>> > 0461:4d0f class-ID: 0301
>> >   Device-4: 1-1.3.4:9 info: HP HP LaserJet CP1025nw type: printer
>> > driver:
>> > usblp interfaces: 2
>> >     rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 power: 98mA chip-ID: 03f0:0b2a
>> > class-ID: 0701 serial: <filter>
>> >   Hub-5: 2-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed:
>> > 12
>> > Mb/s lanes: 1
>> >     chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900
>> >   Hub-6: 3-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 speed:
>> > 480
>> > Mb/s lanes: 1
>> >     chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
>> >   Hub-7: 3-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 8 rev:
>> > 2.0
>> > speed: 480 Mb/s
>> >     lanes: 1 chip-ID: 8087:0020 class-ID: 0900
>> >   Device-1: 3-1.2:3 info: Fitipower Integrated Mass Storage Device
>> > type:
>> > mass storage
>> >     driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes:
>> > 1
>> > power: 250mA
>> >     chip-ID: 18e3:9106 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
>> >   Device-2: 3-1.4:4 info: Canon CanoScan LiDE 210 type: <vendor
>> > specific>
>> > driver: N/A
>> >     interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 power: 500mA
>> > chip-ID:
>> > 04a9:190a class-ID: ff00
>> >   Hub-8: 4-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0 speed:
>> > 480
>> > Mb/s lanes: 1
>> >     chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
>> >   Hub-9: 5-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed:
>> > 12
>> > Mb/s lanes: 1
>> >     chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900
>> > Sensors:
>> >   System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 40.0
>> > C
>> >   Fan Speeds (rpm): cpu: 921 fan-2: 800
>> > Repos:
>> >   Packages: 2609 pm: dpkg pkgs: 2597 pm: flatpak pkgs: 12
>> >   No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
>> >   Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/element-io.list
>> >     1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/element-io-archive-
>> > keyring.gpg]
>> > https: //packages.element.io/debian/ default main
>> >   Active apt repos in:
>> > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list
>> >     1: deb http: //packages.linuxmint.com zara main upstream import
>> > backport
>> >     2: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble main restricted
>> > universe
>> > multiverse
>> >     3: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates main
>> > restricted
>> > universe multiverse
>> >     4: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-backports main
>> > restricted universe multiverse
>> >     5: deb http: //security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ noble-security main
>> > restricted universe multiverse
>> >   Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.sources
>> >     1: deb [arch=amd64] https: //dl.google.com/linux/chrome-
>> > stable/deb/
>> > stable main
>> >   Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.sources
>> >     1: deb [arch=amd64] https: //repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable
>> > main
>> > Info:
>> >   Memory: total: 12 GiB note: est. available: 9.57 GiB used: 5.89 GiB
>> > (61.5%)
>> >   Processes: 303 Power: uptime: 8m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend:
>> > deep
>> > wakeups: 0
>> >     hibernate: platform Init: systemd v: 255 target: graphical (5)
>> > default:
>> > graphical
>> >   Compilers: gcc: 13.3.0 Client: Cinnamon v: 6.4.14 inxi: 3.3.34
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