I agree. The crossover terms constrain the ungrounded phrases. The more crossover terms,
the more constrained the ungrounded terms. Had Kevin said "What have you done to
land you in that place in the world?", then it would imply a more constrained space
of possible groundings. Prolly wouldn't have the necessary moralized narrative, though.
On 11/6/24 10:49, Marcus Daniels wrote:
In logic programming one could have,
A) a few axioms, and a complex set of interwoven predicates that predict many
properties of the world based on those properties.
For example, the potential ramifications of killing someone: Malfunctioning
families, lost economic productivity, simulations of violence leading to more
violence, etc. Situational ethics, parallax, etc.
B) more specific axioms, with no complex of interwoven predicates.
"Thou shalt not kill." (unless you are the president)
The metaphysics of B in isolation is not explained and thus is less developed and has
less "merit" (putting free will aside).
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From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2024 10:28 AM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] How democracies die
Hm. Implicit in the question "what have you done to earn" is will power or free
will or somesuch. But the denial of (free) will is *not* the denial of development, nor
is it the denial that credit/blame can be ascribed to people (regardless of whether they
deserve it or not).
Moral luck posits that you can both be awarded and blamed for consequences for which
you're the primary agent without positing that you deserve the award or blame. But
whatever constructive "axioms" underly development are still there, still
operative ... just without the metaphysics.
On 11/6/24 10:12, Marcus Daniels wrote:
If we deny that value can be developed from simple axioms, then one can
certainly deny value that is asserted without that development. The
collective nor the individual have any inherent value.
*From: *Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of glen
<geprope...@gmail.com>
*Date: *Wednesday, November 6, 2024 at 9:57 AM
*To: *friam@redfish.com <friam@redfish.com>
*Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] How democracies die
My answer? Nothing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_meritocracy
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_meritocracy> And anyone who thinks they
have done something to earn their place is sorely mistaken, whether the earning takes
the form of credit or blame, whether their place is high or low.
On 11/6/24 09:44, Marcus Daniels wrote:
"What have you done to earn your place in this crowded world?" Dr. Kevin
Christie
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